Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 11/29/10


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     0. 12:24 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 02:40 AM - Colors (Charles Campbell)
     2. 02:41 AM - Simulator (Charles Campbell)
     3. 02:50 AM - Re: Piet progress pix (Charles Campbell)
     4. 02:52 AM - Re: Colors (Charles Campbell)
     5. 03:03 AM - Last out of town trip begins now (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     6. 05:09 AM - Re: Colors (Jim Markle)
     7. 06:47 AM - Re: Basing Pietenpol (Woodflier@aol.com)
     8. 07:54 AM - Re: Re: Basing Pietenpol (Kip and Beth Gardner)
     9. 07:54 AM - Re: Piet progress pix (Jack Phillips)
    10. 09:46 AM - Re: Piet progress pix (Charles Campbell)
    11. 12:53 PM - Ohio piet gathering (shad bell)
    12. 04:49 PM - Re: dhyedral (giacummo)
    13. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: dhyedral (Charles Campbell)
    14. 07:27 PM - Re: Re: dhyedral (Harvey Rule)
    15. 08:05 PM - Re: Simulator for piet (TriScout)
    16. 08:33 PM - Re: Re: dhyedral (Roman Bukolt)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:24:46 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Make Sure You're Listed!
    Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner with just two more days in this year's Fund Raiser! Later in December I will post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists this year. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 02:40:46 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Colors
    Not familiar with N77CG. Is there a picture of it anywhere so that when I eventually get to Brodhead I'll know where to park?


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    Time: 02:41:31 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Simulator
    Steven, don't use a lawnmower engine -- use a gasoline powered generator and then you could plug the fan (as well as the computer) into it.


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    Time: 02:50:26 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Piet progress pix
    Jack, I don't know if BPA can stan two tarheels. I live in Winston-Salem. In fact after reading the Jan 2009 issue of BPAN I started to call and see about a visit to New Hill to see you and the Piet, but I never got around to it. I would have to drive -- my Piet is barely off the drawing board. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:13 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll have to come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Woodflier@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:38 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Well, the Piet fuselage is more or less finished and moved to the strip where it'll make its first flights. The wings are in the paint booth and should be done in a couple of weeks. Of course, the weather just turned, 29 degrees and 40 mph gusts today. Sure wish I could roll back the calendar a couple of months, weather-wise. But 629ML should be ready to fly to Brodhead in 2011. Matt Paxton Fairfield, VA


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    Time: 02:52:50 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Colors
    I'm not senior enough to be able to assign parking places. Maybe you need to talk to Jack -- he was assigning me to be next to N77CG. ----- Original Message ----- From: airlion To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Colors Hey Chuck, can I park next to you? Mine is Caliente Red Fuse and creame wings. Gardiner ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 11:11:14 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Colors Right next to Chuck Gantzer=99s N77CG Jack Phillips NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:24 AM To: Piet People Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colors How about solid red with white sunburst on wing and tail? Where would you park it? www.buildersbooks.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhtt p://forums.matronics.comwww.buil"_blank" href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhttp://nofollo w" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet======


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    Time: 03:03:41 AM PST US
    From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Subject: Last out of town trip begins now
    On my way to Chicago for the last out of town trip. I killed the yard monkey yesterday and she who must be obeyed said the yard is officially done and the tractors covered. Hot tub is working good so on to the start of buildapalooza 2010. I wonder what I should name her when she's finally finished. It has to be something better than what my wife calls it. 0610 pmt to mdw through detroit Go go gadget Do not archive less ya wanna John Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless


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    Time: 05:09:05 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Colors
    Lots of pics: westcoastpiet.com -----Original Message----- From: Charles Campbell Sent: Nov 29, 2010 4:35 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colors Not familiar with N77CG. Is there a picture of it anywhere so that when I eventually get to Brodhead I'll know where to park?


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    Time: 06:47:21 AM PST US
    From: Woodflier@aol.com
    Subject: RE: Basing Pietenpol
    Time: 08:16:45 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll have to come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ---- Jack, it's going to be at VA63, Twin Rivers Airstrip, initially. There's a 3000' grass strip and completely enclosed t-hangar with paved floor. Fly on up when the weather warms up, it shouldn't be more than an hour from Moneta by Piet. I've had the Bellanca in there with no problems. Here's a link on Airnav: _http://www.airnav.com/airport/VA63_ (http://www.airnav.com/airport/VA63) Matt


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    Time: 07:54:44 AM PST US
    From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Basing Pietenpol
    Just a short hop from beautiful "Bew-nah Vih-sta" Virginia ;) Kip Gardner do not archive On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Woodflier@aol.com wrote: > Time: 08:16:45 AM PST US > From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix > > Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll > have to > come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake. > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > > Raleigh, NC > ---- > > Jack, it's going to be at VA63, Twin Rivers Airstrip, initially. > There's a 3000' grass strip and completely enclosed t-hangar with > paved floor. Fly on up when the weather warms up, it shouldn't be > more than an hour from Moneta by Piet. I've had the Bellanca in > there with no problems. > > Here's a link on Airnav: http://www.airnav.com/airport/VA63 > > Matt > >


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    Time: 07:54:44 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Piet progress pix
    Charles, you're welcome to come look at my Pietenpol, but it is not in New Hill. I keep it in my hangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia (W91), where we will eventually move and run a Bed & Breakfast for pilots once we get our house in New Hill sold. I'll be up there every weekend from the end of January through May, so give me a call if you want to come look at it. My cellphone is (919) 427-4440. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:48 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Jack, I don't know if BPA can stan two tarheels. I live in Winston-Salem. In fact after reading the Jan 2009 issue of BPAN I started to call and see about a visit to New Hill to see you and the Piet, but I never got around to it. I would have to drive -- my Piet is barely off the drawing board. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack <mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Phillips Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:13 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll have to come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Woodflier@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:38 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Well, the Piet fuselage is more or less finished and moved to the strip where it'll make its first flights. The wings are in the paint booth and should be done in a couple of weeks. Of course, the weather just turned, 29 degrees and 40 mph gusts today. Sure wish I could roll back the calendar a couple of months, weather-wise. But 629ML should be ready to fly to Brodhead in 2011. Matt Paxton Fairfield, VA href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 09:46:04 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Piet progress pix
    OK! I will probably wait for warmer weather. We'll be back in touch via "the list" before then. Do not archive Chuck Campbell No "N" number, yet ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 10:22 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Charles, you're welcome to come look at my Pietenpol, but it is not in New Hill. I keep it in my hangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia (W91), where we will eventually move and run a Bed & Breakfast for pilots once we get our house in New Hill sold. I'll be up there every weekend from the end of January through May, so give me a call if you want to come look at it. My cellphone is (919) 427-4440. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:48 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Jack, I don't know if BPA can stan two tarheels. I live in Winston-Salem. In fact after reading the Jan 2009 issue of BPAN I started to call and see about a visit to New Hill to see you and the Piet, but I never got around to it. I would have to drive -- my Piet is barely off the drawing board. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:13 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll have to come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Woodflier@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:38 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix Well, the Piet fuselage is more or less finished and moved to the strip where it'll make its first flights. The wings are in the paint booth and should be done in a couple of weeks. Of course, the weather just turned, 29 degrees and 40 mph gusts today. Sure wish I could roll back the calendar a couple of months, weather-wise. But 629ML should be ready to fly to Brodhead in 2011. Matt Paxton Fairfield, VA href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.comhref="http://w ww.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.comhref="http://www.homebuilthe lp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contributio n">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?P ietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhref="h ttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com www.buildersbooks.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhtt p://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 12:53:42 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Ohio piet gathering
    Hello Guys and Gals, I am starting to plan for my 2011 Ohio Piet Gathering (can't call it a fly in for liability reasons, I guess).- I am shooting f or Father's Day weekend again, but I will have to see what vacation weekend I got awarded on my bid.- It will be like last year, just fly in here an d have fun, camp out fri, sat night if you want to, I will rent- a turd c loset and supply lunch on sat, if enough people show up, early enough, frid ay night we can head down to the local watering hole/ grill for supper, Ski pp, and Ed came in last year on friday evening, and set up their tents 2 ti mes, once outside, then in the neighbor's hangor (I forgot to check the wea ther forcast that night).- I know this is a busy weekend, but if you have any comments, fire when ready.- I might just pull off a fly-in here at h ome, and go to Brodhead in 2011, I just have to keep the ole lady happy.- I am assuming Skipp, Ed, Don, Mike C., and Frank P. could make it, as it is only an hour or Hour 1/2 flight for them, if any are in Columbus etc fo r buisness reasons feel free to drive in.- We might just have to start up the Buckeye Pietenpol Assosiation,- Again. - Happy building (and flying to you "Snow Birds") - Shad=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 04:49:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: dhyedral
    From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
    So, why some airplanes have and some no? how much is too much, which things you have to take in account to do it with or without? I do not find anything about this configuration... Regards Mario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321657#321657


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    Time: 05:25:00 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: dhyedral
    I rebuilt a TriPacer once and the directions said to run a string across from wingtip to wingtip. Then measure down from the center of the string to the top of the cabin and the distance should be, I think, 3 inches. I don't remember what the wing span on the Pacer was but it couldn't be far from 28 feet. Within reason, the more dihedral you have the better the stability. If, in level flight, the left wing drops to level because of a wind gust, the left wing will then have more lift than the right wing and the airplane will right itself. Charles Lindberg's Spirit of St Louis was designed to have a slight amount of negative dihedral. That was to force him to fly the airplane every second so that he wouldn't fall asleep during his trip across the pond. Chuck Campbell -- Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:47 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dhyedral > <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> > > So, why some airplanes have and some no? how much is too much, which > things you have to take in account to do it with or without? I do not find > anything about this configuration... > > Regards > > Mario > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321657#321657 > > >


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    Time: 07:27:53 PM PST US
    From: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net>
    Subject: Re: dhyedral
    It's really up to you as to how much or how little you want.A couple of inc hes is really all you'll ever need just to give you some stability.If you g o to far like about 6 inches then you have more than enough and the plane w ill be so stable that you'll fall asleep flying it.Fighter planes have anhy edral because they want them very unstable for doing things in the air that fighters have to do to get out of situations.The first plane I ever flew w as a Quicksilver ultralight and it had a lot of dhyedral.Probably too much. As I recall it would practically fly itself. It's your personal preference really.It's your airplane.What do you want it to do? > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dhyedral > From: mario.giacummo@gmail.com > Date: Mon=2C 29 Nov 2010 16:47:23 -0800 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > m> > > So=2C why some airplanes have and some no? how much is too much=2C which things you have to take in account to do it with or without? I do not find anything about this configuration... > > Regards > > Mario > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321657#321657 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 08:05:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Simulator for piet
    From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber@yahoo.com>
    Get the cheapest gamepad you can find, configure the stick controls like that of an RC control box(i.e. right side for ail/elev, left for rudder). Go into FS control settings (sensitivity) and set them (especially ailerons) less responsive, and you gotta Piet. Generally, the more expensive the joystick, the crappier the 'feel'.... then when ur online, go to weather and click on the static 'actual wx' box and download the 'live' wx.. actual winds, etc.. fly outta ur home field. Then see how close it compares to reality. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321673#321673


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    Time: 08:33:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: dhyedral
    From: Roman Bukolt <conceptmodels@tds.net>
    I think you mean dihedral. right? On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:47 PM, giacummo wrote: > > So, why some airplanes have and some no? how much is too much, which things you have to take in account to do it with or without? I do not find anything about this configuration... > > Regards > > Mario > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321657#321657 > > > > > > > > > >




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