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0. 12:24 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! (Matt Dralle)
1. 02:40 AM - Colors (Charles Campbell)
2. 02:41 AM - Simulator (Charles Campbell)
3. 02:50 AM - Re: Piet progress pix (Charles Campbell)
4. 02:52 AM - Re: Colors (Charles Campbell)
5. 03:03 AM - Last out of town trip begins now (amsafetyc@aol.com)
6. 05:09 AM - Re: Colors (Jim Markle)
7. 06:47 AM - Re: Basing Pietenpol (Woodflier@aol.com)
8. 07:54 AM - Re: Re: Basing Pietenpol (Kip and Beth Gardner)
9. 07:54 AM - Re: Piet progress pix (Jack Phillips)
10. 09:46 AM - Re: Piet progress pix (Charles Campbell)
11. 12:53 PM - Ohio piet gathering (shad bell)
12. 04:49 PM - Re: dhyedral (giacummo)
13. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: dhyedral (Charles Campbell)
14. 07:27 PM - Re: Re: dhyedral (Harvey Rule)
15. 08:05 PM - Re: Simulator for piet (TriScout)
16. 08:33 PM - Re: Re: dhyedral (Roman Bukolt)
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Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! |
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Not familiar with N77CG. Is there a picture of it anywhere so that when
I eventually get to Brodhead I'll know where to park?
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Steven, don't use a lawnmower engine -- use a gasoline powered generator
and then you could plug the fan (as well as the computer) into it.
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Subject: | Re: Piet progress pix |
Jack, I don't know if BPA can stan two tarheels. I live in
Winston-Salem. In fact after reading the Jan 2009 issue of BPAN I
started to call and see about a visit to New Hill to see you and the
Piet, but I never got around to it. I would have to drive -- my Piet is
barely off the drawing board.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll have
to come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Woodflier@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:38 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Well, the Piet fuselage is more or less finished and moved to the
strip where it'll make its first flights. The wings are in the paint
booth and should be done in a couple of weeks. Of course, the weather
just turned, 29 degrees and 40 mph gusts today. Sure wish I could roll
back the calendar a couple of months, weather-wise. But 629ML should be
ready to fly to Brodhead in 2011.
Matt Paxton
Fairfield, VA
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I'm not senior enough to be able to assign parking places. Maybe you
need to talk to Jack -- he was assigning me to be next to N77CG.
----- Original Message -----
From: airlion
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Colors
Hey Chuck, can I park next to you? Mine is Caliente Red Fuse and
creame wings. Gardiner
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From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 11:11:14 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Colors
Right next to Chuck Gantzer=99s N77CG
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:24 AM
To: Piet People
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colors
How about solid red with white sunburst on wing and tail? Where would
you park it?
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Subject: | Last out of town trip begins now |
On my way to Chicago for the last out of town trip. I killed the yard monkey
yesterday and she who must be obeyed said the yard is officially done and
the tractors covered. Hot tub is working good so on to the start of
buildapalooza 2010. I wonder what I should name her when she's finally
finished. It has to be something better than what my wife calls it.
0610 pmt to mdw through detroit
Go go gadget
Do not archive less ya wanna
John
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
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Lots of pics:
westcoastpiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Campbell
Sent: Nov 29, 2010 4:35 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colors
Not familiar with N77CG. Is there a picture
of it anywhere so that when I eventually get to Brodhead I'll know where to
park?
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Subject: | RE: Basing Pietenpol |
Time: 08:16:45 AM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll have to
come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Jack, it's going to be at VA63, Twin Rivers Airstrip, initially. There's a
3000' grass strip and completely enclosed t-hangar with paved floor. Fly on
up when the weather warms up, it shouldn't be more than an hour from
Moneta by Piet. I've had the Bellanca in there with no problems.
Here's a link on Airnav: _http://www.airnav.com/airport/VA63_
(http://www.airnav.com/airport/VA63)
Matt
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Subject: | Re: RE: Basing Pietenpol |
Just a short hop from beautiful "Bew-nah Vih-sta" Virginia ;)
Kip Gardner
do not archive
On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Woodflier@aol.com wrote:
> Time: 08:16:45 AM PST US
> From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
>
> Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll
> have to
> come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake.
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>
> Raleigh, NC
> ----
>
> Jack, it's going to be at VA63, Twin Rivers Airstrip, initially.
> There's a 3000' grass strip and completely enclosed t-hangar with
> paved floor. Fly on up when the weather warms up, it shouldn't be
> more than an hour from Moneta by Piet. I've had the Bellanca in
> there with no problems.
>
> Here's a link on Airnav: http://www.airnav.com/airport/VA63
>
> Matt
>
>
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Subject: | Piet progress pix |
Charles, you're welcome to come look at my Pietenpol, but it is not in New
Hill. I keep it in my hangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia (W91), where
we will eventually move and run a Bed & Breakfast for pilots once we get our
house in New Hill sold. I'll be up there every weekend from the end of
January through May, so give me a call if you want to come look at it. My
cellphone is (919) 427-4440.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Jack, I don't know if BPA can stan two tarheels. I live in Winston-Salem.
In fact after reading the Jan 2009 issue of BPAN I started to call and see
about a visit to New Hill to see you and the Piet, but I never got around to
it. I would have to drive -- my Piet is barely off the drawing board.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack <mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Phillips
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll have to
come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Woodflier@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:38 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Well, the Piet fuselage is more or less finished and moved to the strip
where it'll make its first flights. The wings are in the paint booth and
should be done in a couple of weeks. Of course, the weather just turned, 29
degrees and 40 mph gusts today. Sure wish I could roll back the calendar a
couple of months, weather-wise. But 629ML should be ready to fly to Brodhead
in 2011.
Matt Paxton
Fairfield, VA
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Subject: | Re: Piet progress pix |
OK! I will probably wait for warmer weather. We'll be back in touch
via "the list" before then.
Do not archive
Chuck Campbell
No "N" number, yet
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Charles, you're welcome to come look at my Pietenpol, but it is not in
New Hill. I keep it in my hangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
(W91), where we will eventually move and run a Bed & Breakfast for
pilots once we get our house in New Hill sold. I'll be up there every
weekend from the end of January through May, so give me a call if you
want to come look at it. My cellphone is (919) 427-4440.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:48 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Jack, I don't know if BPA can stan two tarheels. I live in
Winston-Salem. In fact after reading the Jan 2009 issue of BPAN I
started to call and see about a visit to New Hill to see you and the
Piet, but I never got around to it. I would have to drive -- my Piet is
barely off the drawing board.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Great to see it progressing, Matt! Where will you base it? I'll
have to come by to see it next time we're up at Smith Mountain Lake.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Woodflier@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:38 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress pix
Well, the Piet fuselage is more or less finished and moved to the
strip where it'll make its first flights. The wings are in the paint
booth and should be done in a couple of weeks. Of course, the weather
just turned, 29 degrees and 40 mph gusts today. Sure wish I could roll
back the calendar a couple of months, weather-wise. But 629ML should be
ready to fly to Brodhead in 2011.
Matt Paxton
Fairfield, VA
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Subject: | Ohio piet gathering |
Hello Guys and Gals, I am starting to plan for my 2011 Ohio Piet Gathering
(can't call it a fly in for liability reasons, I guess).- I am shooting f
or Father's Day weekend again, but I will have to see what vacation weekend
I got awarded on my bid.- It will be like last year, just fly in here an
d have fun, camp out fri, sat night if you want to, I will rent- a turd c
loset and supply lunch on sat, if enough people show up, early enough, frid
ay night we can head down to the local watering hole/ grill for supper, Ski
pp, and Ed came in last year on friday evening, and set up their tents 2 ti
mes, once outside, then in the neighbor's hangor (I forgot to check the wea
ther forcast that night).- I know this is a busy weekend, but if you have
any comments, fire when ready.- I might just pull off a fly-in here at h
ome, and go to Brodhead in 2011, I just have to keep the ole lady happy.-
I am assuming Skipp, Ed, Don, Mike C., and Frank P. could make it, as it
is only an hour or Hour 1/2 flight for them, if any are in Columbus etc fo
r buisness reasons feel free to drive in.- We might just have to start up
the Buckeye Pietenpol Assosiation,- Again.
-
Happy building (and flying to you "Snow Birds")
-
Shad=0A=0A=0A
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So, why some airplanes have and some no? how much is too much, which things you
have to take in account to do it with or without? I do not find anything about
this configuration...
Regards
Mario
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I rebuilt a TriPacer once and the directions said to run a string across
from wingtip to wingtip. Then measure down from the center of the string to
the top of the cabin and the distance should be, I think, 3 inches. I don't
remember what the wing span on the Pacer was but it couldn't be far from 28
feet. Within reason, the more dihedral you have the better the stability.
If, in level flight, the left wing drops to level because of a wind gust,
the left wing will then have more lift than the right wing and the airplane
will right itself. Charles Lindberg's Spirit of St Louis was designed to
have a slight amount of negative dihedral. That was to force him to fly the
airplane every second so that he wouldn't fall asleep during his trip across
the pond.
Chuck Campbell -- Do not archive
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From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dhyedral
> <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
>
> So, why some airplanes have and some no? how much is too much, which
> things you have to take in account to do it with or without? I do not find
> anything about this configuration...
>
> Regards
>
> Mario
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321657#321657
>
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It's really up to you as to how much or how little you want.A couple of inc
hes is really all you'll ever need just to give you some stability.If you g
o to far like about 6 inches then you have more than enough and the plane w
ill be so stable that you'll fall asleep flying it.Fighter planes have anhy
edral because they want them very unstable for doing things in the air that
fighters have to do to get out of situations.The first plane I ever flew w
as a Quicksilver ultralight and it had a lot of dhyedral.Probably too much.
As I recall it would practically fly itself.
It's your personal preference really.It's your airplane.What do you want it
to do?
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dhyedral
> From: mario.giacummo@gmail.com
> Date: Mon=2C 29 Nov 2010 16:47:23 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
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> So=2C why some airplanes have and some no? how much is too much=2C which
things you have to take in account to do it with or without? I do not find
anything about this configuration...
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> Regards
>
> Mario
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321657#321657
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Subject: | Re: Simulator for piet |
Get the cheapest gamepad you can find, configure the stick controls like that of
an RC control box(i.e. right side for ail/elev, left for rudder). Go into FS
control settings (sensitivity) and set them (especially ailerons) less responsive,
and you gotta Piet. Generally, the more expensive the joystick, the crappier
the 'feel'.... then when ur online, go to weather and click on the static
'actual wx' box and download the 'live' wx.. actual winds, etc.. fly outta ur
home field. Then see how close it compares to reality.
Read this topic online here:
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I think you mean dihedral. right?
On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:47 PM, giacummo wrote:
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> So, why some airplanes have and some no? how much is too much, which things you
have to take in account to do it with or without? I do not find anything about
this configuration...
>
> Regards
>
> Mario
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321657#321657
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