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     1. 12:42 AM - Re: rib fabircators (GliderMike)
     2. 03:48 AM - Re: dhyedral (Jerry Dotson)
     3. 08:37 AM - Re: dhyedral (BYD)
     4. 09:56 AM - Re: rib fabircators (dgaldrich)
     5. 11:04 AM - dihedral (Oscar Zuniga)
     6. 11:15 AM - Re: Re: rib fabircators (Gary Wilson)
     7. 07:23 PM - Re: rib fabircators (Richard Schreiber)
     8. 09:40 PM - Re: dihedral (kevinpurtee)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: rib fabircators | 
      
      
      Which style ribs are you wanting?  The ones that Bernie designed, or one of the
      other styles, like one of the Riblett designs that some of the builders are doing?
      I'm thinking seriously about converting some of my holiday pay into wood
      and glue.  I have even gone as far as checking to see what it will cost me to
      drive to Atlanta, and pick up wood from AS, if they keep wood there. I am attempting
      to keep my schedule the same on the nights I don't work as the four nights
      I do work, and am spending entirely too much time surfing the internet,
      instead of doing something constructive.  I was measuring the apartment tonight,
      and trying to decide how I could re-arrange things to have space for a 3 piece
      wing.  I planned to start with ribs, then make a decision what to start next,
      when I had built enough to suit me.
      
      do not archive
      
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      HOMEBUILDER
      Will WORK for Spruce
      Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
      GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321891#321891
      
      
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      Mike,
       I cut the angles on the spar splice and the plates of 1/4" plywood.
      
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      Jerry Dotson
      59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      Baker, FL 32531
      
      Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      wing, tailfeathers done
      using Lycoming O-235
      
      
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      I dont have theories or a lot of book learning to back up the dihedral debate,
      but I have owned and operated a Pietenpol with anhyedral and can say that it is
      definitely undesirable.  It would fall off to one side or the other (not very
      predictable) during every stall and that included landings.  Many exciting times
      occurred as a result.  Most of the time things went well.
      
      I have been told (but can not verify  that source has since passed away) that Bernard
      had two people lift up on the wingtips when he measured for the strut lengths
      on his one-piece wings to obtain a little dihedral.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321928#321928
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: rib fabircators | 
      
      
      Last year at Brodhead, there were two complete sets of original ribs that looked
      nicely fabricated.  $300 is the price that I remember.  Can't guarantee what
      will be there this year but at least it's a data point.
      
      Dave
      
      
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      Scout has 3" of dihedral.  I wish I could find the picture that
      Kevin posted where our two airplanes appear in the same picture
      so you can see the marked difference between Fat Girl with zero
      dihedral and Scout with 3".  Although I always thought the dihedral
      on my airplane was hardly noticeable, in a side-by-side photo
      it's remarkable.
      
      I've never flown another Piet so I have no idea how it affects
      the handling qualities.
      
      To the comment about rigging like a Cessna 150, besides the other
      comments already offered I would add that there are a whole lot of
      other differences between the two wings... the Cessna has a good
      deal of washout, the wing planform is tapered at its outboard end,
      and it's a different airfoil.  Anyway, it's another case of the
      same old "less filling... more taste" discussion, so I guess we'll
      have another round ;o)
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      San Antonio, TX
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: rib fabircators | 
      
      There was also a set of ribs at the Oshkosh Aeromart...
      
      Gary Wilson
      Do Not Archive
      
      On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:53 AM, dgaldrich <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com> wrote:
      
      > dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
      >
      > Last year at Brodhead, there were two complete sets of original ribs that
      > looked nicely fabricated.  $300 is the price that I remember.  Can't
      > guarantee what will be there this year but at least it's a data point.
      >
      > Dave
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      >
      > Read this topic online here:
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321936#321936
      >
      >
      
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      Edgar Howe from NW Indiana was one of the people at Brodhead who had ribs for sale.
      He can be reached at 219-508 -6880. I am sure he has a set available.
      
      Rick Schreiber
      Valparaiso Indiana
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: early builder 
      Sent: 11/30/2010 2:20:28 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib fabircators
      
      
      Is anyone making / selling pietenpol ribs anymore? 
      
      
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      This photo shows the difference in dihedral between the two aircraft pretty well.
      
      If it's a calm day Fat Girl can fly hands off for several seconds at a time.  If
      there are any bumps its hands-on all the way.  
      
      It's been years since I've flown another Piet.  I don't remember how they handled
      so I cannot offer a comparison.  
      
      I am biased, but I do not find the aircraft particularly difficult or tedious to
      fly in regards to stability.
      
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      Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/Georgetown, TX
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322023#322023
      
      
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