---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/01/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:42 AM - Re: rib fabircators (GliderMike) 2. 03:48 AM - Re: dhyedral (Jerry Dotson) 3. 08:37 AM - Re: dhyedral (BYD) 4. 09:56 AM - Re: rib fabircators (dgaldrich) 5. 11:04 AM - dihedral (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 11:15 AM - Re: Re: rib fabircators (Gary Wilson) 7. 07:23 PM - Re: rib fabircators (Richard Schreiber) 8. 09:40 PM - Re: dihedral (kevinpurtee) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:59 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: rib fabircators From: "GliderMike" Which style ribs are you wanting? The ones that Bernie designed, or one of the other styles, like one of the Riblett designs that some of the builders are doing? I'm thinking seriously about converting some of my holiday pay into wood and glue. I have even gone as far as checking to see what it will cost me to drive to Atlanta, and pick up wood from AS, if they keep wood there. I am attempting to keep my schedule the same on the nights I don't work as the four nights I do work, and am spending entirely too much time surfing the internet, instead of doing something constructive. I was measuring the apartment tonight, and trying to decide how I could re-arrange things to have space for a 3 piece wing. I planned to start with ribs, then make a decision what to start next, when I had built enough to suit me. do not archive -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321891#321891 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:03 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dhyedral From: "Jerry Dotson" Mike, I cut the angles on the spar splice and the plates of 1/4" plywood. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321899#321899 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:23 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dhyedral From: "BYD" I dont have theories or a lot of book learning to back up the dihedral debate, but I have owned and operated a Pietenpol with anhyedral and can say that it is definitely undesirable. It would fall off to one side or the other (not very predictable) during every stall and that included landings. Many exciting times occurred as a result. Most of the time things went well. I have been told (but can not verify that source has since passed away) that Bernard had two people lift up on the wingtips when he measured for the strut lengths on his one-piece wings to obtain a little dihedral. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321928#321928 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:09 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: rib fabircators From: "dgaldrich" Last year at Brodhead, there were two complete sets of original ribs that looked nicely fabricated. $300 is the price that I remember. Can't guarantee what will be there this year but at least it's a data point. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321936#321936 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:09 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: dihedral Scout has 3" of dihedral. I wish I could find the picture that Kevin posted where our two airplanes appear in the same picture so you can see the marked difference between Fat Girl with zero dihedral and Scout with 3". Although I always thought the dihedral on my airplane was hardly noticeable, in a side-by-side photo it's remarkable. I've never flown another Piet so I have no idea how it affects the handling qualities. To the comment about rigging like a Cessna 150, besides the other comments already offered I would add that there are a whole lot of other differences between the two wings... the Cessna has a good deal of washout, the wing planform is tapered at its outboard end, and it's a different airfoil. Anyway, it's another case of the same old "less filling... more taste" discussion, so I guess we'll have another round ;o) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" San Antonio, TX website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: rib fabircators From: Gary Wilson There was also a set of ribs at the Oshkosh Aeromart... Gary Wilson Do Not Archive On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:53 AM, dgaldrich wrote: > dgaldrich@embarqmail.com> > > Last year at Brodhead, there were two complete sets of original ribs that > looked nicely fabricated. $300 is the price that I remember. Can't > guarantee what will be there this year but at least it's a data point. > > Dave > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321936#321936 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:23 PM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: rib fabircators Edgar Howe from NW Indiana was one of the people at Brodhead who had ribs for sale. He can be reached at 219-508 -6880. I am sure he has a set available. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: early builder Sent: 11/30/2010 2:20:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib fabircators Is anyone making / selling pietenpol ribs anymore? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dihedral From: "kevinpurtee" This photo shows the difference in dihedral between the two aircraft pretty well. If it's a calm day Fat Girl can fly hands off for several seconds at a time. If there are any bumps its hands-on all the way. It's been years since I've flown another Piet. I don't remember how they handled so I cannot offer a comparison. I am biased, but I do not find the aircraft particularly difficult or tedious to fly in regards to stability. -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322023#322023 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fat_girl_and_scout_dihedral_145.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.