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     1. 06:27 AM - Re: rib fabircators (early builder)
     2. 06:27 AM - For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (Ryan Mueller)
     3. 06:37 AM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (TOM STINEMETZE)
     4. 07:04 AM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (Ryan Mueller)
     5. 07:06 AM - latex on sheet metal/fiberglass (Douwe Blumberg)
     6. 09:45 AM - Re: latex on sheet metal/fiberglass (Rick Holland)
     7. 09:56 AM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in 	 box) (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
     8. 10:07 AM - Re: latex on sheet metal/fiberglass (airlion)
     9. 10:20 AM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (Ryan Mueller)
    10. 12:02 PM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (TOM STINEMETZE)
    11. 12:59 PM - Re: dhyedral (bender)
    12. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: dhyedral (Rick Holland)
    13. 05:06 PM - BPA Newsletter email (helspersew@aol.com)
    14. 06:22 PM - Re: BPA Newsletter email (Jack Phillips)
    15. 08:11 PM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (Ryan Mueller)
    16. 08:31 PM - Welding Question (AlRice)
 
 
 
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      Has anyone purchased ribs from Edgar Howe?- if so please send an email to
       me at nx797rd@yahoo.com
      -
      Thanks
      -
      Bob Dewenter
      Dayton OH
      Corvair /Pietenpol builder. 1% done
      
      --- On Wed, 12/1/10, Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net> wrote:
      
      
      From: Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: rib fabircators
      
      
      Edgar Howe from NW Indiana was one of the people at Brodhead who had ribs f
      or sale. He can be reached at 219-508 -6880. I am sure he has a set availab
      le.
      -
      Rick Schreiber
      Valparaiso Indiana
      -
      
      -
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: early builder 
      Sent: 11/30/2010 2:20:28 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib fabircators
      
      
      Is anyone making / selling pietenpol ribs anymore? 
      
      
      =0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) | 
      
      In case anyone is looking to treat themselves (or someone else) to a new
      headset this Christmas, I've got a brand new, in the box, Flightcom Classic
      ANR headset for sale (carrying case as well). Approximately 2.5 months old,
      they were tried on once and the ANR was tested (it works). Otherwise they
      have had no use. I am asking $300 plus the cost shipping. Please let me know
      if you would be interested via email and we can go from there. Have a good
      day!
      
      Ryan
      
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| Subject:  | Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset  (new in box) | 
      
      Ryan:
      
      Have you tried that ANR headset out in the open cockpit environment to see 
      how it works?  I have heard that ANR does not function too well with that 
      kind of active environment.
      
      Tom Stinemetze
      
      
      >>> Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> 12/2/2010 8:22 AM >>>
      In case anyone is looking to treat themselves (or someone else) to a new 
      headset this Christmas, I've got a brand new, in the box, Flightcom 
      Classic ANR headset for sale (carrying case as well). Approximately 2.5 
      months old, they were tried on once and the ANR was tested (it works). 
      Otherwise they have had no use. I am asking $300 plus the cost shipping. 
      Please let me know if you would be interested via email and we can go from 
      there. Have a good day!
      
      Ryan
      =====================
      
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| Subject:  | Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) | 
      
      Hi Tom,
      
      I have not tried them in the airplane; as mentioned, they have not been used
      (other than test fit and making sure the ANR turned on). I would refer to an
      excerpt from a post Mike Cuy put up a couple years back when he picked up a
      set; that was part of reason I went ahead and bought them:
      
      "I have a 9 volt battery powered 2-place Sigtronics intercom w/ squelch
      and volume control.   Microphone sponges/covers are a must
      to cut wind noise and if possible use noise cancelling head sets.   I
      just purchased a Flightcom Classic ANR (active noise reduction)
      headset to replace my very old Pilot Avionics at Oshkosh and tried it
      last weekend and could hear unicom frequencies 75% better
      than I did with my old Pilot Avionics units.  Transmissions were so much
      more clear as well.  I'm sold on ANR headsets."
      
      Ryan
      
      On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:33 AM, TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
      
      >  *Ryan:*
      > **
      > *Have you tried that ANR headset out in the open cockpit environment to
      > see how it works?  I have heard that ANR does not function too well with
      > that kind of active environment.*
      > **
      > *Tom Stinemetze*
      >
      >
      > >>> Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> 12/2/2010 8:22 AM >>>
      >
      > In case anyone is looking to treat themselves (or someone else) to a new
      > headset this Christmas, I've got a brand new, in the box, Flightcom Classic
      > ANR headset for sale (carrying case as well). Approximately 2.5 months old,
      > they were tried on once and the ANR was tested (it works). Otherwise they
      > have had no use. I am asking $300 plus the cost shipping. Please let me know
      > if you would be interested via email and we can go from there. Have a good
      > day!
      >
      > Ryan
      >
      > *
      > ectric.com
      > ">www.buildersbooks.combuilthelp.com
      > .matronics.com/contribution
      >
      > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      > ics.com*
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | latex on sheet metal/fiberglass | 
      
      Who here has painted their sheet metal/fiberglass components with latex? And
      how did it work for you and what did it look like and how is it holding up. 
      
      
      I tried a test panel over some epoxy primer, and even after a month drying,
      I can still scrape the latex off with my fingernail.  I'm wondering if I
      needed to scuff the epoxy primer or use a dedicated latex primer for metal.
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: latex on sheet metal/fiberglass | 
      
      I sprayed my aluminum cowling and turtle deck with latex primer and latex
      satin. Latex paint stays fairly soft and does not get hard like auto
      urethane or epoxy paint. It is easily scratched although I found that auto
      urethane scratches fairly easy also (I painted my landing gear with urethan
      e
      and if I was going to do it again would powder coat all exterior tubing). I
      figure if the scratches start to bother me, once each year I can remove my
      cowl and turtle deck in a couple minutes and spray on a other coat of latex
      in another 15 minutes (including water cleanup) for a total cost of a buck
      or two.
      
      If you want a more indestructible finish on your Piet use the expensive
      stuff. Latex finish coat may stick to latex primer better than epoxy primer
      (and of course you will want to etch your aluminum first).
      
      rick
      
      On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Douwe Blumberg
      <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>wrote:
      
      >  Who here has painted their sheet metal/fiberglass components with latex?
      > And how did it work for you and what did it look like and how is it holdi
      ng
      > up.
      >
      >
      > I tried a test panel over some epoxy primer, and even after a month dryin
      g,
      > I can still scrape the latex off with my fingernail.  I=92m wondering if 
      I
      > needed to scuff the epoxy primer or use a dedicated latex primer for meta
      l.
      >
      >
      > Douwe
      >
      > *
      >
      ===========
      ===========
      ===========
      ============*
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in 	 | 
      box)
      
      And not only was THAT ANR headseat great for the Pietenpol but the Gulfcoas
      t Avionics ANR (David Clark look-alike but all black) one
      is excellent too.
      
      I had excellent results hearing/taking with  the controllers at OSH in 2009
       and more recently when flying into a controlled airport a few weeks ago us
      ing
      the Flightcom ANR headset.   The ANR really mutes the engine noise and wind
       noise plus in addition to the must-have foam over the microphone condom
      thingy that you can purchase as an accessory if the headset doesn't come wi
      th it.
      
      The only issues you have in an open cockpit are when your passengers lean o
      ut over the side to look down, then you get a blast of prop blast wind nois
      e
      in your ears and it usually startles the passenger and they stop doing it p
      retty quickly !
      
      Carry on good people,
      
      Mike C.
      
      [cid:image001.jpg@01CB921F.F697B510]
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: latex on sheet metal/fiberglass | 
      
      benjamin moores makes a good metal primer for latex. cheers, Gardiner Mason
      =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Douwe Blumberg <dou
      weblumberg@earthlink.net>=0ATo: pietenpolgroup <pietenpol-list@matronics.co
      m>=0ASent: Thu, December 2, 2010 10:04:09 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: lat
      ex on sheet metal/fiberglass=0A=0A =0AWho here has painted their sheet meta
      l/fiberglass components with latex? And how =0Adid it work for you and what
       did it look like and how is it holding up. =0A=0A =0AI tried a test panel 
      over some epoxy primer, and even after a month drying, I =0Acan still scrap
      e the latex off with my fingernail.  I=99m wondering if I needed to 
      =0Ascuff the epoxy primer or use a dedicated latex primer for metal.=0A =0A
      ========== =0A
      
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| Subject:  | Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) | 
      
      Thanks for the info Mikee.
      
      And yes, this one did come with the foam microphone condom thingy. :P  (I
      just doublechecked)
      
      The warranty card is in the carrying case, so the new owner will be the
      recipient of the warranty if they send that in. ACS is selling them for
      $346.50 right now, so I think it's a pretty good deal for exactly the same
      thing.
      
      Have a good day!
      
      Ryan
      
      On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE
      CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
      
      > And not only was THAT ANR headseat great for the Pietenpol but the
      > Gulfcoast Avionics ANR (David Clark look-alike but all black) one
      >
      > is excellent too.
      >
      > * *
      >
      > I had excellent results hearing/taking with  the controllers at OSH in 20
      09
      > and more recently when flying into a controlled airport a few weeks ago
      > using
      >
      > the Flightcom ANR headset.   The ANR really mutes the engine noise and wi
      nd
      > noise plus in addition to the must-have foam over the microphone condom
      >
      > thingy that you can purchase as an accessory if the headset doesn=92t com
      e
      > with it.
      >
      >
      > The only issues you have in an open cockpit are when your passengers lean
      > out over the side to look down, then you get a blast of prop blast wind
      > noise
      >
      > in your ears and it usually startles the passenger and they stop doing it
      > pretty quickly !
      >
      >
      > Carry on good people,
      >
      >
      > Mike C.
      >
      >
      > [image: HUGHES.JPG]
      >
      >
      > * *
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset  (new in box) | 
      
      Ryan:
      
      If you can guarantee that it also work on Crank Snappin' Corvair noises I 
      will take it off your hands.  I think I still have your address around 
      somewhere.
      By the way, are you doing any of your own Piet flying yet?
      
      Stinemetze
      N328X
      
      do not archiv
      
      ____ | ____
              \8/
              / \e
      >>> Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> 12/2/2010 12:15 PM >>>
      Thanks for the info Mikee. 
      
      And yes, this one did come with the foam microphone condom thingy. :P (I 
      just doublechecked)
      
      The warranty card is in the carrying case, so the new owner will be the 
      recipient of the warranty if they send that in. ACS is selling them for 
      $346.50 right now, so I think it's a pretty good deal for exactly the same 
      thing. 
      
      Have a good day!
      
      Ryan
      
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      The flying and glider manual for 1933 with the scout plans actually says that exactly
      on page 40...
       " Next have someone hold up the end of the wing so it will have a little dihedral,
      and measure the length of the front struts. these should both be exactly
      the same length"
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322091#322091
      
      
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      This "dhyedral" thread kind of reminds me of the "plnas" thread that ran so
      long back in August for some reason.
      
      rick
      
      On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:57 PM, bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> wrote:
      
      > jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
      >
      > The flying and glider manual for 1933 with the scout plans actually says
      > that exactly on page 40...
      >  " Next have someone hold up the end of the wing so it will have a little
      > dihedral, and measure the length of the front struts. these should both be
      > exactly the same length"
      >
      > jeff
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322091#322091
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | BPA Newsletter email | 
      
      
      Does anyone know how to get in touch with Doc Mosher via email?
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL. 
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | BPA Newsletter email | 
      
      Hi Dan,
      
      
      Try bpan@tds.net
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      helspersew@aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:04 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter email
      
      
      Does anyone know how to get in touch with Doc Mosher via email?
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      
      Poplar Grove, IL. 
      
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) | 
      
      Hi Tom,
      
      Haha...I would think it would quiet the purr of a CSC just as well as the
      bleating of an A-65.  :)
      
      I've got your address, I will ship it from the local UPS store on Saturday
      (I'm in the Detroit area now for work 'til tomorrow night). Once it ships
      I'll have the total plus shipping and you can drop a check in the mail. I'll
      shoot you my address with the total.
      
      Thanks, long travel day, time for bed. Have a good evening,
      
      Ryan
      
      On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:59 PM, TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
      
      >  *Ryan:*
      > **
      > *If you can guarantee that it also work on Crank Snappin' Corvair noises I
      > will take it off your hands.  I think I still have your address around
      > somewhere.*
      > *By the way, are you doing any of your own Piet flying yet?*
      > **
      > *Stinemetze*
      > *N328X
      > *
      > *do not archiv*
      >
      > *____ | ____
      >         \8/
      >         / \e
      > *>>> Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> 12/2/2010 12:15 PM >>>
      >
      > Thanks for the info Mikee.
      >
      > And yes, this one did come with the foam microphone condom thingy. :P (I
      > just doublechecked)
      >
      > The warranty card is in the carrying case, so the new owner will be the
      > recipient of the warranty if they send that in. ACS is selling them for
      > $346.50 right now, so I think it's a pretty good deal for exactly the same
      > thing.
      >
      > Have a good day!
      >
      > Ryan
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Welding Question | 
      
      
      This might be really dumb question but when I'm tack welding parts together that
      are bolted to wood structure, for example the landing gear mounts on the bottom
      longerons, how do I prevent scorching of the wood or damaging the glue joint?
      Thanks for the help.  This is my first wood airplane.
      
      --------
      Al Rice
      Skybolt 260
      RV-9A
      Helping with my grandson's Piet
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322132#322132
      
      
 
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