---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/02/10: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:27 AM - Re: rib fabircators (early builder) 2. 06:27 AM - For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (Ryan Mueller) 3. 06:37 AM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (TOM STINEMETZE) 4. 07:04 AM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (Ryan Mueller) 5. 07:06 AM - latex on sheet metal/fiberglass (Douwe Blumberg) 6. 09:45 AM - Re: latex on sheet metal/fiberglass (Rick Holland) 7. 09:56 AM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 8. 10:07 AM - Re: latex on sheet metal/fiberglass (airlion) 9. 10:20 AM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (Ryan Mueller) 10. 12:02 PM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (TOM STINEMETZE) 11. 12:59 PM - Re: dhyedral (bender) 12. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: dhyedral (Rick Holland) 13. 05:06 PM - BPA Newsletter email (helspersew@aol.com) 14. 06:22 PM - Re: BPA Newsletter email (Jack Phillips) 15. 08:11 PM - Re: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) (Ryan Mueller) 16. 08:31 PM - Welding Question (AlRice) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:16 AM PST US From: early builder Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: rib fabircators Has anyone purchased ribs from Edgar Howe?- if so please send an email to me at nx797rd@yahoo.com - Thanks - Bob Dewenter Dayton OH Corvair /Pietenpol builder. 1% done --- On Wed, 12/1/10, Richard Schreiber wrote: From: Richard Schreiber Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: rib fabircators Edgar Howe from NW Indiana was one of the people at Brodhead who had ribs f or sale. He can be reached at 219-508 -6880. I am sure he has a set availab le. - Rick Schreiber Valparaiso Indiana - - ----- Original Message ----- From: early builder Sent: 11/30/2010 2:20:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib fabircators Is anyone making / selling pietenpol ribs anymore? =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:16 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) From: Ryan Mueller In case anyone is looking to treat themselves (or someone else) to a new headset this Christmas, I've got a brand new, in the box, Flightcom Classic ANR headset for sale (carrying case as well). Approximately 2.5 months old, they were tried on once and the ANR was tested (it works). Otherwise they have had no use. I am asking $300 plus the cost shipping. Please let me know if you would be interested via email and we can go from there. Have a good day! Ryan ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:03 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) Ryan: Have you tried that ANR headset out in the open cockpit environment to see how it works? I have heard that ANR does not function too well with that kind of active environment. Tom Stinemetze >>> Ryan Mueller 12/2/2010 8:22 AM >>> In case anyone is looking to treat themselves (or someone else) to a new headset this Christmas, I've got a brand new, in the box, Flightcom Classic ANR headset for sale (carrying case as well). Approximately 2.5 months old, they were tried on once and the ANR was tested (it works). Otherwise they have had no use. I am asking $300 plus the cost shipping. Please let me know if you would be interested via email and we can go from there. Have a good day! Ryan ===================== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) From: Ryan Mueller Hi Tom, I have not tried them in the airplane; as mentioned, they have not been used (other than test fit and making sure the ANR turned on). I would refer to an excerpt from a post Mike Cuy put up a couple years back when he picked up a set; that was part of reason I went ahead and bought them: "I have a 9 volt battery powered 2-place Sigtronics intercom w/ squelch and volume control. Microphone sponges/covers are a must to cut wind noise and if possible use noise cancelling head sets. I just purchased a Flightcom Classic ANR (active noise reduction) headset to replace my very old Pilot Avionics at Oshkosh and tried it last weekend and could hear unicom frequencies 75% better than I did with my old Pilot Avionics units. Transmissions were so much more clear as well. I'm sold on ANR headsets." Ryan On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:33 AM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: > *Ryan:* > ** > *Have you tried that ANR headset out in the open cockpit environment to > see how it works? I have heard that ANR does not function too well with > that kind of active environment.* > ** > *Tom Stinemetze* > > > >>> Ryan Mueller 12/2/2010 8:22 AM >>> > > In case anyone is looking to treat themselves (or someone else) to a new > headset this Christmas, I've got a brand new, in the box, Flightcom Classic > ANR headset for sale (carrying case as well). Approximately 2.5 months old, > they were tried on once and the ANR was tested (it works). Otherwise they > have had no use. I am asking $300 plus the cost shipping. Please let me know > if you would be interested via email and we can go from there. Have a good > day! > > Ryan > > * > ectric.com > ">www.buildersbooks.combuilthelp.com > .matronics.com/contribution > > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ics.com* > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:40 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: latex on sheet metal/fiberglass Who here has painted their sheet metal/fiberglass components with latex? And how did it work for you and what did it look like and how is it holding up. I tried a test panel over some epoxy primer, and even after a month drying, I can still scrape the latex off with my fingernail. I'm wondering if I needed to scuff the epoxy primer or use a dedicated latex primer for metal. Douwe ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: latex on sheet metal/fiberglass From: Rick Holland I sprayed my aluminum cowling and turtle deck with latex primer and latex satin. Latex paint stays fairly soft and does not get hard like auto urethane or epoxy paint. It is easily scratched although I found that auto urethane scratches fairly easy also (I painted my landing gear with urethan e and if I was going to do it again would powder coat all exterior tubing). I figure if the scratches start to bother me, once each year I can remove my cowl and turtle deck in a couple minutes and spray on a other coat of latex in another 15 minutes (including water cleanup) for a total cost of a buck or two. If you want a more indestructible finish on your Piet use the expensive stuff. Latex finish coat may stick to latex primer better than epoxy primer (and of course you will want to etch your aluminum first). rick On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > Who here has painted their sheet metal/fiberglass components with latex? > And how did it work for you and what did it look like and how is it holdi ng > up. > > > I tried a test panel over some epoxy primer, and even after a month dryin g, > I can still scrape the latex off with my fingernail. I=92m wondering if I > needed to scuff the epoxy primer or use a dedicated latex primer for meta l. > > > Douwe > > * > =========== =========== =========== ============* > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:24 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) And not only was THAT ANR headseat great for the Pietenpol but the Gulfcoas t Avionics ANR (David Clark look-alike but all black) one is excellent too. I had excellent results hearing/taking with the controllers at OSH in 2009 and more recently when flying into a controlled airport a few weeks ago us ing the Flightcom ANR headset. The ANR really mutes the engine noise and wind noise plus in addition to the must-have foam over the microphone condom thingy that you can purchase as an accessory if the headset doesn't come wi th it. The only issues you have in an open cockpit are when your passengers lean o ut over the side to look down, then you get a blast of prop blast wind nois e in your ears and it usually startles the passenger and they stop doing it p retty quickly ! Carry on good people, Mike C. [cid:image001.jpg@01CB921F.F697B510] ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:39 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: latex on sheet metal/fiberglass benjamin moores makes a good metal primer for latex. cheers, Gardiner Mason =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Douwe Blumberg =0ATo: pietenpolgroup =0ASent: Thu, December 2, 2010 10:04:09 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: lat ex on sheet metal/fiberglass=0A=0A =0AWho here has painted their sheet meta l/fiberglass components with latex? And how =0Adid it work for you and what did it look like and how is it holding up. =0A=0A =0AI tried a test panel over some epoxy primer, and even after a month drying, I =0Acan still scrap e the latex off with my fingernail. I=99m wondering if I needed to =0Ascuff the epoxy primer or use a dedicated latex primer for metal.=0A =0A ========== =0A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:44 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) From: Ryan Mueller Thanks for the info Mikee. And yes, this one did come with the foam microphone condom thingy. :P (I just doublechecked) The warranty card is in the carrying case, so the new owner will be the recipient of the warranty if they send that in. ACS is selling them for $346.50 right now, so I think it's a pretty good deal for exactly the same thing. Have a good day! Ryan On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] wrote: > And not only was THAT ANR headseat great for the Pietenpol but the > Gulfcoast Avionics ANR (David Clark look-alike but all black) one > > is excellent too. > > * * > > I had excellent results hearing/taking with the controllers at OSH in 20 09 > and more recently when flying into a controlled airport a few weeks ago > using > > the Flightcom ANR headset. The ANR really mutes the engine noise and wi nd > noise plus in addition to the must-have foam over the microphone condom > > thingy that you can purchase as an accessory if the headset doesn=92t com e > with it. > > > The only issues you have in an open cockpit are when your passengers lean > out over the side to look down, then you get a blast of prop blast wind > noise > > in your ears and it usually startles the passenger and they stop doing it > pretty quickly ! > > > Carry on good people, > > > Mike C. > > > [image: HUGHES.JPG] > > > * * > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:02:20 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) Ryan: If you can guarantee that it also work on Crank Snappin' Corvair noises I will take it off your hands. I think I still have your address around somewhere. By the way, are you doing any of your own Piet flying yet? Stinemetze N328X do not archiv ____ | ____ \8/ / \e >>> Ryan Mueller 12/2/2010 12:15 PM >>> Thanks for the info Mikee. And yes, this one did come with the foam microphone condom thingy. :P (I just doublechecked) The warranty card is in the carrying case, so the new owner will be the recipient of the warranty if they send that in. ACS is selling them for $346.50 right now, so I think it's a pretty good deal for exactly the same thing. Have a good day! Ryan ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:59:54 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: dhyedral From: "bender" The flying and glider manual for 1933 with the scout plans actually says that exactly on page 40... " Next have someone hold up the end of the wing so it will have a little dihedral, and measure the length of the front struts. these should both be exactly the same length" jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322091#322091 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: dhyedral From: Rick Holland This "dhyedral" thread kind of reminds me of the "plnas" thread that ran so long back in August for some reason. rick On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:57 PM, bender wrote: > jfaith@solairusaviation.com> > > The flying and glider manual for 1933 with the scout plans actually says > that exactly on page 40... > " Next have someone hold up the end of the wing so it will have a little > dihedral, and measure the length of the front struts. these should both be > exactly the same length" > > jeff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322091#322091 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:54 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter email From: helspersew@aol.com Does anyone know how to get in touch with Doc Mosher via email? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:22:23 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter email Hi Dan, Try bpan@tds.net Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter email Does anyone know how to get in touch with Doc Mosher via email? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:20 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For Sale: Flightcom Classic ANR headset (new in box) From: Ryan Mueller Hi Tom, Haha...I would think it would quiet the purr of a CSC just as well as the bleating of an A-65. :) I've got your address, I will ship it from the local UPS store on Saturday (I'm in the Detroit area now for work 'til tomorrow night). Once it ships I'll have the total plus shipping and you can drop a check in the mail. I'll shoot you my address with the total. Thanks, long travel day, time for bed. Have a good evening, Ryan On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:59 PM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: > *Ryan:* > ** > *If you can guarantee that it also work on Crank Snappin' Corvair noises I > will take it off your hands. I think I still have your address around > somewhere.* > *By the way, are you doing any of your own Piet flying yet?* > ** > *Stinemetze* > *N328X > * > *do not archiv* > > *____ | ____ > \8/ > / \e > *>>> Ryan Mueller 12/2/2010 12:15 PM >>> > > Thanks for the info Mikee. > > And yes, this one did come with the foam microphone condom thingy. :P (I > just doublechecked) > > The warranty card is in the carrying case, so the new owner will be the > recipient of the warranty if they send that in. ACS is selling them for > $346.50 right now, so I think it's a pretty good deal for exactly the same > thing. > > Have a good day! > > Ryan > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Welding Question From: "AlRice" This might be really dumb question but when I'm tack welding parts together that are bolted to wood structure, for example the landing gear mounts on the bottom longerons, how do I prevent scorching of the wood or damaging the glue joint? Thanks for the help. 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