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1. 04:13 AM - Re: Welding Question (Dangerous Dave)
2. 04:39 AM - Re: Re: Welding Question (Charles Campbell)
3. 05:01 AM - Re: Re: Welding Question (Charles Campbell)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Welding Question (TOM STINEMETZE)
5. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: Welding Question (Michael Perez)
6. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: Welding Question (Rick Holland)
7. 07:00 AM - Re: Welding Question (Rick Holland)
8. 07:05 AM - tack welding (Douwe Blumberg)
9. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: Welding Question (Jim Markle)
10. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: Welding Question (Charles Campbell)
11. 11:27 AM - Re: Re: Welding Question (Kip and Beth Gardner)
12. 11:38 AM - Re: Re: Welding Question (TOM STINEMETZE)
13. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: Welding Question (Charles Campbell)
14. 02:50 PM - Fuselage Mockup (Barry Davis)
15. 03:21 PM - Welding Question NOW physiological fuselages... (Michael Perez)
16. 04:48 PM - Re: Fuselage Mockup (Rick Holland)
17. 05:40 PM - Re: Fuselage Mockup (Charles Campbell)
18. 05:42 PM - Re: Fuselage Mockup (Charles Campbell)
19. 06:16 PM - Trouble with the Piet list (helspersew@aol.com)
20. 06:27 PM - Re: Trouble with the Piet list (Gary Boothe)
21. 06:35 PM - Re: Re: Welding Question: need for a mock fuse (helspersew@aol.com)
22. 07:55 PM - It flies again for the first time (Piep)
23. 08:32 PM - Re: Welding Question (AlRice)
24. 09:38 PM - Re: Welding Question2 (jorge lizarraga)
25. 09:48 PM - Re: Welding Question2 (jorge lizarraga)
26. 11:37 PM - Re: Fuselage Mockup (dgaldrich)
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
I would build up a dummy of that particular section and tack them up off of that,you
will mess something up if you weld on the fuselage.Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
That was my first thought -- but it would be a lot of trouble.
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From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
>
> I would build up a dummy of that particular section and tack them up off
> of that,you will mess something up if you weld on the fuselage.Dave
>
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> Building a Piet
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> Read this topic online here:
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Dave, I've been having a bit of a problem with E-mails to the Piet list
being returned. If this one goes through I guess the problem has been
corrected. See you!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
>
> I would build up a dummy of that particular section and tack them up off
> of that,you will mess something up if you weld on the fuselage.Dave
>
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
Al:
I just got through figuring out that very problem with my landing gear
fittings. I tried to tack the parts while jigged up on the airplane with
my gas welding rig. It took too long to spot heat the fittings and the
wood underneath started to scorch in spite of all my wet rags and sheet
metal shields. So, I got a friend with a portable mig welder to come over
and he was able to just hit the parts quickly with a minimum of area
heating to tack the parts together. (minimal scorching beneath the area
of the weld) Then I disassembled everything and moved it to my welding
table where I could complete the weld by gas without problem. Note that
the previously perfectly sized holes have to be resized after the final
weld.
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "AlRice" <Allen@allenrice.net> 12/2/2010 10:29 PM >>>
This might be really dumb question but when I'm tack welding parts
together that are bolted to wood structure, for example the landing gear
mounts on the bottom longerons, how do I prevent scorching of the wood or
damaging the glue joint?
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
What I recommend: "dry" fit the parts to each other and to the plane. Use t
he bolt holes if there are any, or clamps, etc. to hold the part(s) in plac
e on the plane. Continue to bend, drill, dry fit until you are happy with h
ow they go together. Once bolted/clamped on the plane, I usually will mark
reference lines on the parts where they meet/touch/bolt to each other. Then
I remove from the plane, line up the marks and tack weld.- Re-fit to pla
ne to check. If happy, remove and final weld. Some fixturing/jigging may be
necessary for tack/final weld. (see pic.)
Michael Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
Many times I will tack parts while still attached to the airframe. Just make
sure you remove them before things get too hot and burn some wood. My mock
fuselage, turned upside down was real handy for tack welding my landing gear
parts.
rick
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Dangerous Dave <dsornbor@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I would build up a dummy of that particular section and tack them up off of
> that,you will mess something up if you weld on the fuselage.Dave
>
> --------
> Building a Piet
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322147#322147
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>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
Just what I did with a tig.
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:17 AM, TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
> *Al:*
> **
> *I just got through figuring out that very problem with my landing gear
> fittings. I tried to tack the parts while jigged up on the airplane with my
> gas welding rig. It took too long to spot heat the fittings and the wood
> underneath started to scorch in spite of all my wet rags and sheet metal
> shields. So, I got a friend with a portable mig welder to come over and he
> was able to just hit the parts quickly with a minimum of area heating to
> tack the parts together. (minimal scorching beneath the area of the weld)
> Then I disassembled everything and moved it to my welding table where I
> could complete the weld by gas without problem. Note that the previously
> perfectly sized holes have to be resized after the final weld.*
> **
> *Tom Stinemetze*
> *N328X*
> **
>
>
> >>> "AlRice" <Allen@allenrice.net> 12/2/2010 10:29 PM >>>
>
>
> This might be really dumb question but when I'm tack welding parts together
> that are bolted to wood structure, for example the landing gear mounts on
> the bottom longerons, how do I prevent scorching of the wood or damaging the
> glue joint?
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Hey Al,
My first question is are you gas or tig welding? I'm not sure you could
even do this with gas as the metal has to heat up and there would be no way
to protect the underlying wood and glue from scorching. I have done this by
protecting the surrounding areas with a heat shield of thin aluminum or
something like that and making small, very quick tacks using a tig, then
removing the assembly and welding it solid. Gotta be careful and only make
one or two tacks per area before letting it cool down and starting again.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
That's a really good use for a mock fuse. The other is that you WILL want to check
out how it feels to actually SIT in the fuse you're building. A mock fuse
resolves both....
I don't think anyone should ever build a Pietenpol without building a mock fuse....
jm
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Holland
Sent: Dec 3, 2010 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
Many times I will tack parts while still attached to the airframe. Just make sure
you remove them before things get too hot and burn some wood. My mock fuselage,
turned upside down was real handy for tack welding my landing gear parts.
rick
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Dangerous Dave <dsornbor@aol.com> wrote:
I would build up a dummy of that particular section and tack them up off of that,you
will mess something up if you weld on the fuselage.Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
What is a mock fuselage?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> That's a really good use for a mock fuse. The other is that you WILL want
> to check out how it feels to actually SIT in the fuse you're building. A
> mock fuse resolves both....
>
> I don't think anyone should ever build a Pietenpol without building a mock
> fuse....
>
> jm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Rick Holland
>
> Sent: Dec 3, 2010 8:55 AM
>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
>
>
> Many times I will tack parts while still attached to the airframe. Just
> make sure you remove them before things get too hot and burn some wood. My
> mock fuselage, turned upside down was real handy for tack welding my
> landing gear parts.
>
>
> rick
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Dangerous Dave <dsornbor@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I would build up a dummy of that particular section and tack them up off
> of that,you will mess something up if you weld on the fuselage.Dave
>
>
> --------
>
> Building a Piet
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322147#322147
>
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
A fuselage (some just make the cockpit areas) made full size out of whatever materials
you want (i.e. inexpensive) for the purpose of using it to "try things
on for size" or as a fabrication jig.
NOT EVER intended to be flown (although there have been a few notables on this
list in the past who made what were essentially mock fuselages that they insisted
were airworthy). Not to be confused with Mock Turtle Soup :).
Kip Gardner
On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Charles Campbell wrote:
>
> What is a mock fuselage?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
>
>
>>
>> That's a really good use for a mock fuse. The other is that you WILL want to
check out how it feels to actually SIT in the fuse you're building. A mock
fuse resolves both....
>>
>> I don't think anyone should ever build a Pietenpol without building a mock fuse....
>>
>> jm
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Rick Holland
>>
>> Sent: Dec 3, 2010 8:55 AM
>>
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
>>
>>
>>
>> Many times I will tack parts while still attached to the airframe. Just make
sure you remove them before things get too hot and burn some wood. My mock fuselage,
turned upside down was real handy for tack welding my landing gear parts.
>>
>>
>> rick
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Dangerous Dave <dsornbor@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I would build up a dummy of that particular section and tack them up off of
that,you will mess something up if you weld on the fuselage.Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> --------
>>
>> Building a Piet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322147#322147
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>> Rick Holland
>> Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
A mock fuselage sits in the corner of your shop absorbing all the barbs
and insults you carelessly toss around so that they do not injure the
physiological health of your real fuselage.
Stinemetze
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>>> "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> 12/3/2010 12:41 PM >>>
ream.net>
What is a mock fuselage?
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I ain't got room in my "shop" for another fuselage. The one I have
sitting on saw horses takes up at least half the floor space. I need
the other half for doing other things. My fuselage will just have to
take the physiological barbs (whatever they are) and lump it.
----- Original Message -----
From: TOM STINEMETZE
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
A mock fuselage sits in the corner of your shop absorbing all the
barbs and insults you carelessly toss around so that they do not injure
the physiological health of your real fuselage.
Stinemetze
do not archive
>>> "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> 12/3/2010 12:41 PM
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<cncampbell@windstream.net>
What is a mock fuselage?
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This is the mockup we made the first night of the Big Piet Project. We soon
found out that we needed a bigger fuselage for some or our fluffier
builders. It was a couple of 2x4s ripped down to 1x1 and some scrap luan
plywood. It took about an hour and a half to build and adjust to our needs.
We made the luan "gussets" large so we could adjust as needed and screwed it
together with sheetrock screws and a battery drill. I think total cost was
under $10 and was the best money spent on the whole project of 5 Big Piets.
It's a good idea to check for fit and use a cushion under your butt and back
to see how it will really fit. Also see if you can read the instruments with
your bifocals inside your goggles. (this is only for the older builders like
me)
Barry Davis
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| Subject: | Welding Question NOW physiological fuselages... |
My fuselage should feel pretty lucky then...I'M the one who takes all those
physiological barbs, opinions, insults, rude comments, etc. while out ther
e with it...it just gets the praise...-
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Mockup |
The prop on front was a nice touch Barry. Here is mine after several winters
out in the South 40...
rick
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Barry Davis <bed@mindspring.com> wrote:
> This is the mockup we made the first night of the Big Piet Project. We
> soon found out that we needed a bigger fuselage for some or our fluffier
> builders. It was a couple of 2x4s ripped down to 1x1 and some scrap luan
> plywood. It took about an hour and a half to build and adjust to our needs.
> We made the luan "gussets" large so we could adjust as needed and screwed it
> together with sheetrock screws and a battery drill. I think total cost was
> under $10 and was the best money spent on the whole project of 5 Big Piets.
> It's a good idea to check for fit and use a cushion under your butt and back
> to see how it will really fit. Also see if you can read the instruments with
> your bifocals inside your goggles. (this is only for the older builders like
> me)
> Barry Davis
>
>
> **
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Mockup |
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Davis
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Mockup
This is the mockup we made the first night of the Big Piet Project. We
soon found out that we needed a bigger fuselage for some or our fluffier
builders. It was a couple of 2x4s ripped down to 1x1 and some scrap luan
plywood. It took about an hour and a half to build and adjust to our
needs. We made the luan "gussets" large so we could adjust as needed and
screwed it together with sheetrock screws and a battery drill. I think
total cost was under $10 and was the best money spent on the whole
project of 5 Big Piets. It's a good idea to check for fit and use a
cushion under your butt and back to see how it will really fit. Also see
if you can read the instruments with your bifocals inside your goggles.
(this is only for the older builders like me)
Barry Davis
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Mockup |
After reading the Oct 2010 issue of BPAN, I wrote Doc with a simple
question -- what is a 'Big Piet'? I think Doc must have been busy or
something 'cause I never heard back. Now you are talking about the Big
Piet. Now I'll ask you -- what is a Big Piet?
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Davis
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Mockup
This is the mockup we made the first night of the Big Piet Project. We
soon found out that we needed a bigger fuselage for some or our fluffier
builders. It was a couple of 2x4s ripped down to 1x1 and some scrap luan
plywood. It took about an hour and a half to build and adjust to our
needs. We made the luan "gussets" large so we could adjust as needed and
screwed it together with sheetrock screws and a battery drill. I think
total cost was under $10 and was the best money spent on the whole
project of 5 Big Piets. It's a good idea to check for fit and use a
cushion under your butt and back to see how it will really fit. Also see
if you can read the instruments with your bifocals inside your goggles.
(this is only for the older builders like me)
Barry Davis
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| Subject: | Trouble with the Piet list |
One of our newest members, Charles Campbell, sent me this message off-line.
Does anyone have any words of wisdom to rectify this situation? Thanks.
Dan, I am having some trouble with the Piet list. I am receiving E-mail OK
but all my outgoing E-mails are being blocked. I can't send a message to
matronics at all. In fact, when you asked for an E-mail address to contact
BPAN I sent you an E-mail that was rejected. Could you investigate this f
or me? I paid my "dues" last month so that shouldn't be the problem. Thank
s for anything you can do for me. Chuck cncampbell@windstream.net
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Well, there's the problem.he paid his dues.probably screwed up the whole
system!....;-)
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(22 ribs down.)
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Trouble with the Piet list
One of our newest members, Charles Campbell, sent me this message off-line.
Does anyone have any words of wisdom to rectify this situation? Thanks.
Dan, I am having some trouble with the Piet list. I am receiving E-mail OK
but all my outgoing E-mails are being blocked. I can't send a message to
matronics at all. In fact, when you asked for an E-mail address to contact
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question: need for a mock fuse |
Mock fuselage? Mock fuselage? We don' need no stink'n mock fuselages!! You
should all be ashamed of yourselves, expressing the "need" for a mock fusel
age. Any self-respecting genuine devote' of Bernerd Pietenpol would never c
onsider second guessing the original design of the BHP Aircamper. Just buil
d it to plans, and you will be assured, the results will be superb.
Dan Helsper, purist
Poplar Grove, IL.
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From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 3, 2010 12:29 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
>
That's a really good use for a mock fuse. The other is that you WILL want
to
heck out how it feels to actually SIT in the fuse you're building. A mock
fuse
esolves both....
I don't think anyone should ever build a Pietenpol without building a mock
use....
jm
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From: Rick Holland
Sent: Dec 3, 2010 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Welding Question
Many times I will tack parts while still attached to the airframe. Just mak
e
ure you remove them before things get too hot and burn some wood. My mock
uselage, turned upside down was real handy for tack welding my landing gear
arts.
ick
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I would build up a dummy of that particular section and tack them up off of
hat,you will mess something up if you weld on the fuselage.Dave
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| Subject: | It flies again for the first time |
N1709R is finally back in the air. After 600hrs of labor and a few thousand dollars,
the airplane flew for the first time (again) after being brought back to
life from being neglected for the past 10 or so years. (It is interesting to
note the size of the giant tail. The original builder didn't think it had enough
rudder control, so he enlarged it to over double the normal size. Now it
has lots of rudder authority, but looks somewhat cartoonish in flight. At first,
I didn't like it, but it is growing on me (no pun intended).
Thanks for everyone's input and help.
Looking through some very old photos from my wife's grandparents, we noticed a
picture of a barnstormer who landed in a field in a Jenny and took my wife's aunt
for a ride. The next year he was back in a Ford Tri-motor in the same field
in the Amarillo area. So, for our Christmas cards to the family this year,
we re-enacted the photo with the Piet and had them printed in the Sepia color
to look old. They turned out pretty good.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question |
So, besides the mock fuselage, I guess we'll have to fab a jig for a mock aileron
pulley mount and probably several others. I guess Tucker and I better get
movin'. Thanks for the help from everyone.
BTW, Tucker finished up his ribs today.
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Skybolt 260
RV-9A
Helping with my grandson's Piet
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question2 |
ok in the way i weld my metal parts special landingear attachment plate and
lungs is make a fake bely botom from my fuselaje mesurament adn atach plat
es in plase and wel by gas and acetilene the jig wood is burd but the plate
s is weld others pert like elevator bellcrank I used pliers or metal clamps
for my landingear leg made from metal tubing make a plywood jig riced from
base wood about 1inch or so make the tigh joint and welds work bery well a
nd is bery safe I never trate to well anie pert attach from my real airplan
e I jope these ideas help you tanks all jorge from hanford
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From: AlRice <Allen@allenrice.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Welding Question
This might be really dumb question but when I'm tack welding parts together
that are bolted to wood structure, for example the landing gear mounts on
the bottom longerons, how do I prevent scorching of the wood or damaging th
e glue joint?
Thanks for the help.- This is my first wood airplane.
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Al Rice
Skybolt 260
RV-9A
Helping with my grandson's Piet
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Question2 |
ok in the way i weld my metal parts special landingear attachment plate and
lungs is make a fake belly bottom from my fuselaje mesurament and atached
plates in plase and weld by gas and acetylene the jig wood is burn but the
plates is weld others part like elevator bellcrank I used pliers or metal c
lamps for my landingear leg made from metal tubing make a plywood jig riced
from base wood about 1inch or so make the tigh joint and welds work bery w
ell and is bery safe, I never trate to well anie part attach from my real a
irplane. I jope these ideas help you tanks all jorge from hanford
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From: AlRice <Allen@allenrice.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Welding Question
This might be really dumb question but when I'm tack welding parts together
that are bolted to wood structure, for example the landing gear mounts on
the bottom longerons, how do I prevent scorching of the wood or damaging th
e glue joint?
Thanks for the help.- This is my first wood airplane.
--------
Al Rice
Skybolt 260
RV-9A
Helping with my grandson's Piet
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Mockup |
Barry Davis (see above poster) and 5 others got together and built 6 identical
airplanes based on the Pietenpol design. IIRC, they were about 10% bigger than
the standard and build mostly out of metal rather than wood. All used Corvair
engines. There was an article on them in Sport Aviation several years ago.
After they were mostly built, the group drew names out of a hat to figure out
who got which project. That's the legend anyway.
Dave
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