---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/06/10: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:14 AM - Re: Re: Slave to fashion (Clif Dawson) 2. 04:15 AM - Re: Slave to fashion (Dangerous Dave) 3. 04:23 AM - Re: Slave to fashion (bubbleboy) 4. 04:26 AM - Dash pix (Dangerous Dave) 5. 04:43 AM - Re: Slave to fashion (helspersew@aol.com) 6. 05:42 AM - Re: mock fuselage (airlion) 7. 05:53 AM - Re: Re: Slave to fashion (airlion) 8. 05:56 AM - Re: Slave to fashion (taildrags) 9. 07:54 AM - Re: Slave to fashion (jeff wilson) 10. 08:52 AM - Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed... (Chris Rusch) 11. 09:10 AM - Re: Slave to fashion (Rick Holland) 12. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed... (Ken Chambers) 13. 10:51 AM - Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed... (Chris Rusch) 14. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed... (Ken Chambers) 15. 12:51 PM - Re: Dash pix (Tim Willis) 16. 01:08 PM - Re: Slave to fashion (Jack Phillips) 17. 02:56 PM - Re: Slave to fashion (Greg Cardinal) 18. 05:31 PM - Re: Dash pix (Jack) 19. 05:48 PM - Re: Dash pix (Dangerous Dave) 20. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed.2.. (jorge lizarraga) 21. 06:26 PM - Re: Dash pix (Matthew VanDervort) 22. 07:26 PM - Re: Slave to fashion (Jim Boyer) 23. 07:45 PM - Horizontal flow Radiator (Pieti Lowell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:58 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slave to fashion http://www.garciaaviation.com/cgi-local/storepro5/agora.cgi? Helmets, goggles and silk scarves, me lads, helmets, goggles and scarves........... :-) Clif "I had a pilots breakfast. A coffee and a piss, a donut and a dump." > > > Hi Mark - They're not active noise canceling - just regular headsets. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slave to fashion From: "Dangerous Dave" http://www.flying-jacket.com/product-details.aspx?id=13 Rick,these ones are really nice.By the way,was good visiting yesterday,your planes is looking beautiful.Dave -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322435#322435 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slave to fashion From: "bubbleboy" http://www.campbellaeroclassics.com/ -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322436#322436 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:26:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dash pix From: "Dangerous Dave" Howdy,Heres the 95% done dash,dave -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322437#322437 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_05_14_03_52_900_web_162.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion From: helspersew@aol.com Rick, I recommend Pop's Leather, popsleather.com. I ran into them at Oshkosh a f ew years ago. Very cheap and excellent quality. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Holland Sent: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 6:27 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion The wife needs to know what I need for Christmas and being a slave to fashi on that I am (like most of my fellow Piet builders), I figure I have to get one of those cool leather flying helmets/goggles before I can ever make my first flight. So can anyone recommend a good website/brand that you like? Also if you are going to use headphones do you need a different type of hel met? thanks rick -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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And if you have kids you could hang it from a tree and the kids would have a great time. We tried using ours also as a kind of weird toboggan, problem is there is no way to steer and if you lean too much you just tip. do not archive On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: > >HI Rick, >Looks like you had alot of fun with your mock fuselage. >Cheers, >Jim > >Do not archive > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rick Holland" >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2010 4:14:54 PM >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: mock fuselage > >The mock fuse helped me figure out the plans in 3D space and make several >mistakes before I started cutting and gluing the expensive wood. And a great >landing gear/welding jig. (And its been a lot of fun at parties having friends >and family sit in and take stupid pictures). > >rick > > >On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Oscar Zuniga < taildrags@hotmail.com > wrote: > > > > >What's really good about building a mock fuselage is that >it can be put together very quickly and easily, doesn't >require a lot of precise fitting, but gives tremendous >seat-of-the-pants feedback. Very rewarding. You can use >any scrap materials laying around the garage or hangar, >doesn't have to be aircraft grade. Gussets can be 1/4" or >3/16" plywood, lumber can be from packing crates or wood >pallets, you can shoot it all together with an air >stapler without fussing about the joints or worrying about >weight. The instrument boards don't have to be perfectly >shaped or sanded, nothing needs to be exact... build it >to the nearest 1/16" tick mark on your measuring tape and >get some Elmer's yellow glue or Gorilla Glue (an excellent >use for it!) and wham it together in a weekend. > >>From there, it becomes a very useful tool for fitting a >whole host of things without having to permanently change >or make holes in your "real" fuselage. You can easily >try out changes in geometry, controls, instruments, or >anything else. Drill multiple sets of holes as you >adjust the location of controls or fittings or mounts- it >won't matter because it was never intended to be airworthy. > But best of all, you can sit in it and so >can your friends, family, or visitors- and get an instant >feel for what it's like in the real airplane. In fact, if >you wanted to, you could build it on sawhorses in the >3-point configuration or in level cruise configuration (or, >if you're clever, you can mount the front on pins or >dowels that allow the mock-up to rotate from one position >to the other), using an old broomhandle or piece of conduit >as a pivot and having two different mounting points at the >aft sawhorse. That way, you can do all sorts of other things >like checking how things sit using different wheels or >landing gear. > >Yes, you can even throw a coat of paint on it ;o) Pull out >that old half-gallon of paint that's getting hard in the >garage... whatever color it happens to be. That way, >it can be put outdoors out of the way if you don't have room >for it in your shop. If you have kids, it is absolutely the >best plaything they will have around, and it will give them >an introduction to the cockpit without any worry about breaking >anything. > >Go one step further? Set that old orphaned big-screen TV in >front of it and pop in Mike Cuy's DVD flying scenes ;o) Walmart >sells a super-dependable little Magnavox DVD player for $29 >that will play even the most scratched DVDs. I think you could >rig a smoke system, too... > >Oscar Zuniga >Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" >San Antonio, TX >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >========== >="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com >ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com >et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com >="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >le, List Admin. >========== >st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >========== > >http://forums.matronics.com >========== > > >-- >Rick Holland >Castle Rock, Colorado > >"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > > >========== >="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com >ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com >et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com >="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >le, List Admin. >========== >st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >========== >http://forums.matronics.com >========== > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:00 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slave to fashion Rick, I use a fabric welding hat that is lined and also covers the back of my neck. It works very well with my lightspeed earphones. Gardiner ----- Original Message ---- From: kevinpurtee Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 10:24:26 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slave to fashion Rick - I bought a cheap canvas rig from aircraft spruce. Was made for dave clark but i put my brand in (lightspeed). Not fancy, not warm, but it works. I use ski goggles for eye protection. There are more aesthetic options out there. Those of you who I've had the pleasure of meeting in person know that I cannot be accused of being a slave to fashion. -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322411#322411 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:47 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slave to fashion From: "taildrags" Scott wrote- >There was a great Australian company at Oshkosh a few years ago >with a fantastic leather helmet with an interior shell made of >kevlar. Probably not protective in a bad crash but at least better >then leather as armour for the noggin. They were meant to be used >with a David Clark or similar headseat. I'm sure you'll find them >If you google. Good luck. The company is actually from New Zealand (Kiwis, not Aussies), and their product is extremely nice. Also quite pricey. I sent for their info pack and can vouch for the very, very nice product and details and if I had the money, I would certainly buy one of their helmets. I can tell you that the cost of a good ANR headset is completely lost in the cost of their helmets, though... in the FOUR figures, if I remember the brochure pricing. I have the brochure if anyone is interested. My day-to-day flying helmet is a Navy carrier flight deck crew helmet that I got on eBay, complete with goggles and David Clark hearing protectors, for less than $50. Ordinary headsets fit right in the same earcups (like my Pacific Avionics headset)- but since I'm usually NORDO, I only use the hearing protectors. Here's a pic. -------- Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX Air Camper NX41CC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322448#322448 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/oz_piet_125.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:36 AM PST US From: jeff wilson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion Rick, My wife has the same plan for me and I pointed her to Aircraft Spruce. Their stuff is always good and easy to return if necessary. Plus the prices are reasonable and shipping is fast. Also a Google search will turn up all kinds of stuff if you just want to browse. If you want something unique, follow this link. http://www.etsy.com/listing/59673002/tank-girl-leather-flying-helmet Jeff Wilson --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Rick Holland wrote: From: Rick Holland Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion The wife needs to know what I need for Christmas and being a slave to fashion that I am (like most of my fellow Piet builders), I figure I have to get one of those cool leather flying helmets/goggles before I can ever make my first flight. So can anyone recommend a good website/brand that you like? Also if you are going to use headphones do you need a different type of helmet? thanks rick -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:00 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed... From: "Chris Rusch" If you wan to see one of the dyno pulls, go here and watch it. It made 87hp at 3000rpm, but its needs some more tuning. it feels like there is allot more left. We are having some issues with the marvin schebler carb (MA3SPA), it needs to be jetted a little leaner, are there different jets available for that carb? i am coming up with nothing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYW8tQ4TSBg Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322476#322476 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion From: Rick Holland Thanks for the info Jack, hadn't thought about a helmet with a built-in headset (which I also need). One other question about headsets, with a straight-out exhaust and open cockpit is an ANR type headset a necessity? O r just nice to have? I read Mike C's recommendation for the Flightcom ANR and they seem to be one of the more reasonable models. rick On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Jack Phillips wrote : > Hi Rick, > > > I bought a fairly high-dollar leather helmet with headset built in that > I=92ve been very happy with. It=92s pricey (nearly $400) but when you co nsider > that the price includes a headset, it=92s pretty reasonable. I=92ve had a lot > of comments from people I=92ve talked with over the radio that said they would > never have believed I was in an open cockpit. It=92s that good. > > > Here=92s the link: > http://www.gibson-barnes.com/Communications+Helmet/id/18/cat_id/23/prod_i d/161/ > > > They also make flying helmets, both leather and cloth, without comm > capability. > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Raleigh, NC > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Holland > *Sent:* Sunday, December 05, 2010 7:24 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion > > > The wife needs to know what I need for Christmas and being a slave to > fashion that I am (like most of my fellow Piet builders), I figure I have to > get one of those cool leather flying helmets/goggles before I can ever ma ke > my first flight. So can anyone recommend a good website/brand that you li ke? > Also if you are going to use headphones do you need a different type of > helmet? > > thanks > > rick > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *www.buildersbooks.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > * > =========== =========== =========== ============* > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:15 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed... From: Ken Chambers Sounds great! Mostly stock? Or some mods? Did you ever find a good source for the forklift engine without the balance shaft? And what can you tell us about the bearing you've added? Ken On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Chris Rusch wrote: > > > > If you wan to see one of the dyno pulls, go here and watch it. > It made 87hp at 3000rpm, but its needs some more tuning. it feels like > there is allot more left. > We are having some issues with the marvin schebler carb (MA3SPA), it needs > to be jetted a little leaner, are there different jets available for that > carb? i am coming up with nothing. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYW8tQ4TSBg > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322476#322476 > > -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:41 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed... From: "Chris Rusch" Here is a good shot of my bearing housing, it uses 2 timken bearings. The engine is basically stock except for forged pistons, stainless valves and a mild porting job. i also used studs for the main bearing and the head. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322490#322490 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0942_201.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:44:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed... From: Ken Chambers How did you decide that a bearing housing was necessary? Looks like a great idea, but I thought the forged crank and beefy mains on that engine would handle the prop loads. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Chris Rusch wrote: > > > > Here is a good shot of my bearing housing, it uses 2 timken bearings. > The engine is basically stock except for forged pistons, stainless valves > and a mild porting job. i also used studs for the main bearing and the head. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322490#322490 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0942_201.jpg > > -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:55 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dash pix Dave, Gorgeous panel and switch layout. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: Dangerous Dave >Sent: Dec 6, 2010 6:24 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dash pix > > >Howdy,Heres the 95% done dash,dave > >-------- >Covering Piet > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322437#322437 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_05_14_03_52_900_web_162.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:43 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion I don't have ANR in mine, and it works fine. ANR would be nice, but it costs more. Here's a picture so you can see what it looks like. Karen and I are each wearing one. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion Thanks for the info Jack, hadn't thought about a helmet with a built-in headset (which I also need). One other question about headsets, with a straight-out exhaust and open cockpit is an ANR type headset a necessity? Or just nice to have? I read Mike C's recommendation for the Flightcom ANR and they seem to be one of the more reasonable models. rick On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Jack Phillips wrote: Hi Rick, I bought a fairly high-dollar leather helmet with headset built in that I've been very happy with. It's pricey (nearly $400) but when you consider that the price includes a headset, it's pretty reasonable. I've had a lot of comments from people I've talked with over the radio that said they would never have believed I was in an open cockpit. It's that good. Here's the link: http://www.gibson-barnes.com/Communications+Helmet/id/18/cat_id/23/prod_id/1 61/ They also make flying helmets, both leather and cloth, without comm capability. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion The wife needs to know what I need for Christmas and being a slave to fashion that I am (like most of my fellow Piet builders), I figure I have to get one of those cool leather flying helmets/goggles before I can ever make my first flight. So can anyone recommend a good website/brand that you like? Also if you are going to use headphones do you need a different type of helmet? thanks rick -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com _blank">www.aeroelectric.com .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:57 PM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion Prescription goggles: http://www.prescriptiongoggles.com/ Leather helmet: www.Ebay.com Go Nordo to keep things simple. Greg C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion The wife needs to know what I need for Christmas and being a slave to fashion that I am (like most of my fellow Piet builders), I figure I have to get one of those cool leather flying helmets/goggles before I can ever make my first flight. So can anyone recommend a good website/brand that you like? Also if you are going to use headphones do you need a different type of helmet? thanks rick -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:31:53 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Dash pix Hey Dave, in airplane talk it's PANEL, look great!! Glad to see another lefty builder... Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dangerous Dave Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:24 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dash pix Howdy,Heres the 95% done dash,dave -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322437#322437 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_05_14_03_52_900_web_162.jpg ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dash pix From: "Dangerous Dave" Jack,PANEL sounds to much like glass...a highly repulsive addition to my 30 year passion.I will stick with Steam Dash.dave -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322534#322534 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:52 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed.2.. hey Kent your engine look like almost ford model A these is whater cooler too and like to now howmany horse power have if cand sen resourses to get one and con vertion I thinken about options tanks and good look jorge fro hanford --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Ken Chambers wrote: From: Ken Chambers Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mitsubishi Engine ready to get installed... How did you decide that a bearing housing was necessary? Looks like a great idea, but I thought the forged crank and beefy mains on that engine would handle the prop loads. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Chris Rusch wrote: Here is a good shot of my bearing housing, it uses 2 timken bearings. The engine is basically stock except for forged pistons, stainless valves and a mild porting job. i also used studs for the main bearing and the head. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322490#322490 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0942_201.jpg ========== ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution le, List Admin. ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:13 PM PST US From: Matthew VanDervort Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dash pix Looks good! I gotta ask, cabin heat? How do ya have that plumbed? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 6, 2010, at 7:24 AM, "Dangerous Dave" wrote: > > Howdy,Heres the 95% done dash,dave > > -------- > Covering Piet > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322437#322437 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_05_14_03_52_900_web_162.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:13 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion Hi Greg, Boy does that picture look like you are going in for the attack; that Hun better look out! Merry Christmas, Jim Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Cardinal" Sent: Monday, December 6, 2010 2:54:14 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion Prescription goggles: http://www.prescriptiongoggles.com/ Leather helmet: www.Ebay.com Go Nordo to keep things simple. Greg C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slave to fashion The wife needs to know what I need for Christmas and being a slave to fashion that I am (like most of my fellow Piet builders), I figure I have to get one of those cool leather flying helmets/goggles before I can ever make my first flight. So can anyone recommend a good website/brand that you like? Also if you are going to use headphones do you need a different type of helmet? thanks rick -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Horizontal flow Radiator From: "Pieti Lowell" With a radiator only 10" high gives more lifting space on the center wing section and using a horizontal flow, high efficiency design by the Brodhead radiator people allows a much smaller cooling system. So far it has excellent possibilities, What would be an objection, other than Bernie's half A radiator doesn't look the same.. 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