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     1. 03:40 AM - Re: radiator size (helspersew@aol.com)
     2. 04:31 AM - Re: Outside My Window - Need Skis (Jack Phillips)
     3. 05:02 AM - Re: FOR SALE - Pietenpol Air Camper Builders Manual & Sup P (GliderMike)
     4. 05:43 AM - Re: FOR SALE - Pietenpol Air Camper Builders Manual & Sup P (GliderMike)
     5. 06:00 AM - Re: Outside My Window - Need Skis (Don Emch)
     6. 06:49 AM - Re: radiator size (bender)
     7. 07:08 AM - Re: Jury Strut Attach (Woodflier@aol.com)
     8. 07:25 AM - jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
     9. 08:58 AM - Re: Jury strut attachment (Richard Schreiber)
    10. 08:58 AM - Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol (Richard Schreiber)
    11. 10:04 AM - winter weather (Dick N)
    12. 12:41 PM - Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol (Bill Church)
    13. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol (Rick Holland)
    14. 07:56 PM - Q: Charlie Rubeck's Piet (Kenneth Bickers)
    15. 09:34 PM - Front seat back (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
    16. 09:49 PM - Re: Front seat back (Chris)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: radiator size | 
      
      
      Jeff,
      
      The radiator I have is one of the last batch from Forest Lovely (sp?).  It 
      measures 19-3/4"  high  (not including neck)  x 12" wide. 
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL. 
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
      Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:14 pm
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: radiator size
      
      
      >
      How big or small are the radiators that you for guys are using...?
      hey all look pretty narrow.. just a bit wider than the engine head.. 
      nd the space between the wing and cowl is pretty short.
      
      hanks in advance
      eff
      ribs done
      uselage 90%
      ooking forward to the gear
      
      
      ead this topic online here:
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322632#322632
      
      
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| Subject:  | Outside My Window - Need Skis | 
      
      17=B0 here in Raleigh, this morning, and we still have a little snow on 
      the
      ground from last Saturday.  Al Gore, where are you?
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
      Do Not Archive
      
      
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      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John 
      Hofmann
      Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:26 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Outside My Window - Need Skis
      
      
      Where did summer go? Seems like just a few days ago we were being rained
      upon at Brathead. I just snapped this outside my office. If anyone has a
      line on Federal 1500 skis let me know. Looking for a set for the Cub. 
      "That
      all you going to do with your life, cash for rides?"
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FOR SALE - Pietenpol Air Camper Builders Manual & | 
      Sup P
      
      
      If you still have the manual, send me your contact info, and how you want to get
      paid, and I'll take them. I can send a check, or do PayPal if you can take PayPal.
      Send the information to glidermikeg at yahoo dot com 
      
      I've started the preparations for building ribs, and have the rib drawings.  Ordering
      wood next Monday.
      
      --------
      HOMEBUILDER
      Will WORK for Spruce
      Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
      GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322651#322651
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FOR SALE - Pietenpol Air Camper Builders Manual & | 
      Sup P
      
      
      Thanks Craig.
      
      I'm one more step closer to being finished.   0.01 % complete, 150% to go!  [Rolling
      Eyes]
      
      --------
      HOMEBUILDER
      Will WORK for Spruce
      Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
      GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Outside My Window - Need Skis | 
      
      
      We've got a few inches on the ground.  Maybe more on the way over the next couple
      of days.  Skis going on the Piet tonight. :D 
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      P.S.  John, it seems like I just saw a set of Federals on Barnstormers.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: radiator size | 
      
      
      thanks Dan..
      as much as i love the Brass i may be thinking aluminum
      i was looking at my motorcycle the other day and it hit me... a lot of bikes are
      water cooled including my vtx..there may be a ready made bike radiator that
      would work
      
      jeff
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322667#322667
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Jury Strut Attach | 
      
      I used two AN3 bolts through the U fitting I made and the spar. Should be  
      more than adequate. 
      
      Matt Paxton
      
      
      From: "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
      Subject:  Pietenpol-List: Jury strut attachment
      
      Good People,
      
      I'm fabricating  my jury strut attachment for the spar ala Mike Cuy and 
      Jack Phillips.
      I was  wondering what size bolts everyone has used to hold the fitting to
      the spar.  The Grega plans, which appear to be a copy of the Baby Ace 
      design,
      uses  AN4's. The attachment to the lift strut is only an AN3. It looks to 
      me  that
      AN4's through the spar is overkill, not to mention weakening the spar  even
      more. 
      
      Rick Schreiber
      
      
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| Subject:  | jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol | 
      
      And copied it.    Sketch attached.    Works well, was easy to fabricate.
      
      Mike C.
      
      
      [cid:image001.jpg@01CB96C0.F22CA350]
      
      
      rsbooks.com>
      
      m>
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jury strut attachment | 
      
      Thanks for the response Hans and Jack. I will use AN3s for the fittings.
      
      do not archive
      
      Rick
      
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| Subject:  | jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol | 
      
      Mike,
      
      Thats the design I plan on using. 
      
      I plan on working on the cowling from the firewall rearward this month. I only
      want to pay shipping once, so I hope that a full 4x12 ft sheet will be enough
      to do the cockpits and the engine cowl. I'm using .025 2024T3.
      
      I saw Jim Hacklin and his Piet a couple of days ago. I am sure he will be flying
      this spring. He has just about finished his Corvair. I think all he has left
      to do is install the carb and then cowl the engine. The day I saw him we were
      due to get about 10 inches of lake effect snow. Our conversation naturally gravitated
      to open cockpit flying in the winter and how much we would actually do
      it. If I had skis like Don, I might be more inclined to do it. 
      
      Rick Schreiber
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] 
      Sent: 12/8/2010 9:29:51 AM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol
      
      
      And copied it.    Sketch attached.    Works well, was easy to fabricate. 
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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      Hey John 
      Check this out.
      Dick N.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol | 
      
      
      Not to get too picky, but didn't Will Graff's Air Camper (N1492G) have wooden lift
      struts and jury struts?
      
      http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Will%20Graff/pictures.htm
      
      Just wondering what kind of filler rod would be recommended for welding steel to
      wood.  :)
      
      Bill C.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322694#322694
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol | 
      
      http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Will%20Graff/pictures.htm
      >
      > Just wondering what kind of filler rod would be recommended for welding
      > steel to wood.  :)
      >
      > Bill C.
      >
      >
      Hollow-core E70S2 with oak tree sap core.
      
      
      do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Q: Charlie Rubeck's Piet | 
      
      Guys,
      
      A number of years ago when I lived in Bloomington, Indiana, I got to know
      Charlie Rubeck.  He was very helpful to me when I was in the early stages
      of my project.  My understanding is that he died awhile back.  I'm wondering
      whatever became of his Pietenpol.  Do anyone of you know?
      
      He took me to see it on one my visits to his home outside Spencer, Indiana.
      It had been rebuilt after the accident when he inadvertantly stall/spun it
      in.  Though it appeared it had been hangared for a number of years with
      little or no flying, it was really quite a nice airplane. I wonder who, if
      anyone, now owns it.
      
      Cheers, Ken
      
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      Pieters....
      
      
      -The v-brace supports for the front seat back....are they on the back sid
      e of the front-seat facing the pilot or are they on the front side of the
       seat back facing the engine?
      -
      I am understanding the plans to say the v-brace go on the front side of the
       front seat back... 
      -
      Correct?
      -
      KMHeide=0A=0A=0A      
      
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      Correct.  The  V-brace go on the front of the font seat.  I put mine on the
      back like a bunch of other people have done but they will interfere with
      mounting the center strut lower fittings.
      
      Chris
      Sacramento, Ca
      Westcoastpiet.com
      
      
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      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide
      CPO/FAAOP
      Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:30 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back
      
      
      Pieters....
      
      
       The v-brace supports for the front seat back....are they on the back side
      of the front seat facing the pilot or are they on the front side of the seat
      back facing the engine?
      
      I am understanding the plans to say the v-brace go on the front side of the
      front seat back... 
      
      Correct?
      
      KMHeide
      
      
 
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