---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/08/10: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:40 AM - Re: radiator size (helspersew@aol.com) 2. 04:31 AM - Re: Outside My Window - Need Skis (Jack Phillips) 3. 05:02 AM - Re: FOR SALE - Pietenpol Air Camper Builders Manual & Sup P (GliderMike) 4. 05:43 AM - Re: FOR SALE - Pietenpol Air Camper Builders Manual & Sup P (GliderMike) 5. 06:00 AM - Re: Outside My Window - Need Skis (Don Emch) 6. 06:49 AM - Re: radiator size (bender) 7. 07:08 AM - Re: Jury Strut Attach (Woodflier@aol.com) 8. 07:25 AM - jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 9. 08:58 AM - Re: Jury strut attachment (Richard Schreiber) 10. 08:58 AM - Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol (Richard Schreiber) 11. 10:04 AM - winter weather (Dick N) 12. 12:41 PM - Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol (Bill Church) 13. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol (Rick Holland) 14. 07:56 PM - Q: Charlie Rubeck's Piet (Kenneth Bickers) 15. 09:34 PM - Front seat back (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP) 16. 09:49 PM - Re: Front seat back (Chris) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:26 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: radiator size From: helspersew@aol.com Jeff, The radiator I have is one of the last batch from Forest Lovely (sp?). It measures 19-3/4" high (not including neck) x 12" wide. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: bender Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:14 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: radiator size > How big or small are the radiators that you for guys are using...? hey all look pretty narrow.. just a bit wider than the engine head.. nd the space between the wing and cowl is pretty short. hanks in advance eff ribs done uselage 90% ooking forward to the gear ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322632#322632 - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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Al Gore, where are you? Jack Phillips NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94 Raleigh, NC Do Not Archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Outside My Window - Need Skis Where did summer go? Seems like just a few days ago we were being rained upon at Brathead. I just snapped this outside my office. If anyone has a line on Federal 1500 skis let me know. Looking for a set for the Cub. "That all you going to do with your life, cash for rides?" ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FOR SALE - Pietenpol Air Camper Builders Manual & Sup P From: "GliderMike" If you still have the manual, send me your contact info, and how you want to get paid, and I'll take them. I can send a check, or do PayPal if you can take PayPal. Send the information to glidermikeg at yahoo dot com I've started the preparations for building ribs, and have the rib drawings. Ordering wood next Monday. -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322651#322651 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:54 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FOR SALE - Pietenpol Air Camper Builders Manual & Sup P From: "GliderMike" Thanks Craig. I'm one more step closer to being finished. 0.01 % complete, 150% to go! [Rolling Eyes] -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322655#322655 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Outside My Window - Need Skis From: "Don Emch" We've got a few inches on the ground. Maybe more on the way over the next couple of days. Skis going on the Piet tonight. :D Don Emch NX899DE P.S. John, it seems like I just saw a set of Federals on Barnstormers. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322657#322657 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator size From: "bender" thanks Dan.. as much as i love the Brass i may be thinking aluminum i was looking at my motorcycle the other day and it hit me... a lot of bikes are water cooled including my vtx..there may be a ready made bike radiator that would work jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322667#322667 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:42 AM PST US From: Woodflier@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: Jury Strut Attach I used two AN3 bolts through the U fitting I made and the spar. Should be more than adequate. Matt Paxton From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jury strut attachment Good People, I'm fabricating my jury strut attachment for the spar ala Mike Cuy and Jack Phillips. I was wondering what size bolts everyone has used to hold the fitting to the spar. The Grega plans, which appear to be a copy of the Baby Ace design, uses AN4's. The attachment to the lift strut is only an AN3. It looks to me that AN4's through the spar is overkill, not to mention weakening the spar even more. Rick Schreiber ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:07 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol And copied it. Sketch attached. Works well, was easy to fabricate. Mike C. [cid:image001.jpg@01CB96C0.F22CA350] rsbooks.com> m> ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:34 AM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jury strut attachment Thanks for the response Hans and Jack. I will use AN3s for the fittings. do not archive Rick ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:58:34 AM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol Mike, Thats the design I plan on using. I plan on working on the cowling from the firewall rearward this month. I only want to pay shipping once, so I hope that a full 4x12 ft sheet will be enough to do the cockpits and the engine cowl. I'm using .025 2024T3. I saw Jim Hacklin and his Piet a couple of days ago. I am sure he will be flying this spring. He has just about finished his Corvair. I think all he has left to do is install the carb and then cowl the engine. The day I saw him we were due to get about 10 inches of lake effect snow. Our conversation naturally gravitated to open cockpit flying in the winter and how much we would actually do it. If I had skis like Don, I might be more inclined to do it. Rick Schreiber ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] Sent: 12/8/2010 9:29:51 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol And copied it. Sketch attached. Works well, was easy to fabricate. Mike C. n link below to find out more about www.buildersbooks.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: winter weather Hey John Check this out. Dick N. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:41:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol From: "Bill Church" Not to get too picky, but didn't Will Graff's Air Camper (N1492G) have wooden lift struts and jury struts? http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Will%20Graff/pictures.htm Just wondering what kind of filler rod would be recommended for welding steel to wood. :) Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322694#322694 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: jury strut attach idea I saw on Will Graff's Pietenpol From: Rick Holland http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Will%20Graff/pictures.htm > > Just wondering what kind of filler rod would be recommended for welding > steel to wood. :) > > Bill C. > > Hollow-core E70S2 with oak tree sap core. do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Q: Charlie Rubeck's Piet From: Kenneth Bickers Guys, A number of years ago when I lived in Bloomington, Indiana, I got to know Charlie Rubeck. He was very helpful to me when I was in the early stages of my project. My understanding is that he died awhile back. I'm wondering whatever became of his Pietenpol. Do anyone of you know? He took me to see it on one my visits to his home outside Spencer, Indiana. It had been rebuilt after the accident when he inadvertantly stall/spun it in. Though it appeared it had been hangared for a number of years with little or no flying, it was really quite a nice airplane. I wonder who, if anyone, now owns it. Cheers, Ken ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:47 PM PST US From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP Subject: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back Pieters.... -The v-brace supports for the front seat back....are they on the back sid e of the front-seat facing the pilot or are they on the front side of the seat back facing the engine? - I am understanding the plans to say the v-brace go on the front side of the front seat back... - Correct? - KMHeide=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:44 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back Correct. The V-brace go on the front of the font seat. I put mine on the back like a bunch of other people have done but they will interfere with mounting the center strut lower fittings. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide CPO/FAAOP Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back Pieters.... The v-brace supports for the front seat back....are they on the back side of the front seat facing the pilot or are they on the front side of the seat back facing the engine? I am understanding the plans to say the v-brace go on the front side of the front seat back... Correct? 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