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1. 12:21 AM - Re: Front seat back (Chris)
2. 05:05 AM - Re: Front seat back (Charles Campbell)
3. 05:14 AM - Re: Front seat back (Charles Campbell)
4. 05:21 AM - Flying like a Peregrine Falcon (tkreiner)
5. 08:41 AM - Re: Christmas Miracle (Gene & Tammy)
6. 09:12 AM - Re: Christmas Miracle (Tim Willis)
7. 09:20 AM - Re: Front seat back (Don Emch)
8. 10:00 AM - Re: Front seat back (Jim Boyer)
9. 12:00 PM - Re: Flying like a Peregrine Falcon (Rick Holland)
10. 03:08 PM - Re: Flying like a Peregrine Falcon (Michael Perez)
11. 03:39 PM - Re: Front seat back (Bill Church)
12. 05:01 PM - Re: Christmas Miracle (shad bell)
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Jim and Rick
Yes it seems to be a point of confusion and that is the reason I asked. It
clearly says 3/4"x3 filler for strut fitting on the long fuselage plans but
if you move the fitting back your center struts (front and back) will no
longer be parallel. Then if you swing your wing back to adjust the CG you
will also change the angle of incidence. Not what we want. What we want is
to keep them parallel. The important measurement is the 28.5" measurement
which happens to be the center to center measurement of the wing spars and
the distance between the verticals in the fuselage sides, which is where the
plans show to attach the fitting. I think regardless of where the rear
fitting is mounted, the front should be 28.5 inches away. I plan on putting
the fitting on the filler block and measuring forward 28.5 and if needed
install another filler block. In reality, I bet there are a bunch of Piets
out there flying with the fittings in various locations.
Anyone have a picture of the last original that shows this fitting (on the
inside under the instrument panel)? All the pictures I have on the website
do show this area.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Front seat back |
Haven't yet but intend to do so very soon. Why?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back
>
> Jim
>
> Really? Did you move the center strut lower fitting back to the small
> block
> shown on the long fuselage plans? How about a picture?
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:41 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back
>
>
> they didn't on mine Chris,
> Jim
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2010 9:46:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back
>
>
> Correct. The V-brace go on the front of the font seat. I put mine on the
> back like a bunch of other people have done but they will interfere with
> mounting the center strut lower fittings.
>
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide
> CPO/FAAOP
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:30 PM
> To: Pietenpol
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back
>
>
> Pieters....
>
>
> The v-brace supports for the front seat back....are they on the back side
> of the front seat facing the pilot or are they on the front side of the
> seat
> back facing the engine?
>
> I am understanding the plans to say the v-brace go on the front side of
> the
> front seat back...
>
> Correct?
>
> KMHeide
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Front seat back |
Chris, that is what I intend to do -- move both the fittings back the
same distance to keep the two cabane struts the same distance apart as
the spars in the wing.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 3:16 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back
Jim and Rick
Yes it seems to be a point of confusion and that is the reason I
asked. It clearly says 3/4"x3 filler for strut fitting on the long
fuselage plans but if you move the fitting back your center struts
(front and back) will no longer be parallel. Then if you swing your
wing back to adjust the CG you will also change the angle of incidence.
Not what we want. What we want is to keep them parallel. The important
measurement is the 28.5" measurement which happens to be the center to
center measurement of the wing spars and the distance between the
verticals in the fuselage sides, which is where the plans show to attach
the fitting. I think regardless of where the rear fitting is mounted,
the front should be 28.5 inches away. I plan on putting the fitting on
the filler block and measuring forward 28.5 and if needed install
another filler block. In reality, I bet there are a bunch of Piets out
there flying with the fittings in various locations.
Anyone have a picture of the last original that shows this fitting (on
the inside under the instrument panel)? All the pictures I have on the
website do show this area.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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| Subject: | Flying like a Peregrine Falcon |
The video in this link is about the fastest two birds on the planet...
ENJOY!
http://wimp.com/camerabirds/
--------
Tom Kreiner
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322824#322824
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| Subject: | Re: Christmas Miracle |
My sincere thanks to all for your best wishes and Prayers. Looking
forward to seeing all of you at Broadhead 2011.
Gene in Beautiful Tennessee
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| Subject: | Re: Christmas Miracle |
Gene,
We are all elated that you are doing so much better. Keep up the good fight.
Merry Christmas,
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene & Tammy
Sent: Dec 10, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Christmas Miracle
My sincere thanks to all for your best wishes and Prayers. Looking forward to
seeing all of you at Broadhead 2011.
Gene in Beautiful Tennessee
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| Subject: | Re: Front seat back |
I've never had a passenger complain about the diagonals bothering them on the front
of the seat back. I think they angle up to the longeron enough to not be
a problem. One of the things about the Piet that adds character I guess.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322845#322845
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| Subject: | Re: Front seat back |
Chris,
My cabane fittings are parallel. I have to look at my Piet today to see how I did
the front but since I built the long fuselage it all seemed the right way to
do those fittings.
I'll get pictures (but they will be from under the cowlings as I don't want to
remove them.
Cheers and Merry Christmas to all.
Jim
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:16:34 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Front seat back
Jim and Rick
Yes it seems to be a point of confusion and that is the reason I asked.It clearly
says 3/4"x3 filler for strut fitting on the long fuselage plans but if you
move the fitting back your center struts (front and back) will no longer be parallel.
Then if you swing your wing back to adjust the CG you will also change
the angle of incidence. Not what we want.What we want is to keep them parallel.The
important measurement is the 28.5" measurement which happens to be the center
to center measurement of the wing spars and the distance between the verticals
in the fuselage sides, which is where the plans show to attach the fitting.I
think regardless of where the rear fitting is mounted, thefront should be
28.5 inches away.I plan on putting the fitting on thefiller block and measuring
forward 28.5 and if needed install another filler block.In reality, I bet
there are a bunch of Piets out there flying with the fittings in various locations.
Anyone have a picture of the last original that shows this fitting (on the inside
under the instrument panel)? All the pictures I have on the website do show
this area.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
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| Subject: | Re: Flying like a Peregrine Falcon |
Wow, if reincarnation is true then I want to come back as one of those when
I kick the bucket. Makes you think though if a Pietenpol was a bird what
kind of bird would it be? Probably not a Falcon.
rick
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:19 AM, tkreiner <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The video in this link is about the fastest two birds on the planet...
>
> ENJOY!
>
> http://wimp.com/camerabirds/
>
> --------
> Tom Kreiner
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322824#322824
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Flying like a Peregrine Falcon |
I have seen a few PBS shows on the Peregrine, but this video is awesome! Pr
oblem is, now I have another mod that I want to do...variable geometry wing
s.- Maybe I'll just tell myself doing so will just add weight and forget
about it.
-
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Front seat back |
Chris,
I don't have my cabane strut fittings in place yet, but I did notice this apparent
oversight in the plans when I was putting my fuselage sides together. The
filler block makes sense, since there will be interference between wood and metal
at that location IF the cabane fittings are fastened to the vertical sticks.
Therefore it makes sense to shift the fittings about an inch to the rear -
hence the filler block. But as you noted, if a filler is only added at the rear
fitting, the cabanes will not end up parallel. That's why I also put filler
blocks in at the front attachment points as well. Notes and photos can be found
here:
http://mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReportDetail.cfm?BuildLogID=2535&PlaneID=510&FName=Bill&LName=Church&PlaneName=Air Camper
Bill C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322880#322880
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| Subject: | Re: Christmas Miracle |
God Bless You Gene, NOTHING can keep a good man down!=C2- It's up to the
Man upstairs, and our will to get better, that keeps us strong.=C2- I wil
l remember you in my prayers, and hope to meet you in Brodhead 2011.
=C2-
Shad
--- On Thu, 12/9/10, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Christmas Miracle
As many on this list know, Gene Pennington, who signs his posts as
=9CGene in Beautiful Tennessee=9D, was diagnosed last spring with an
incurable, aggressive form of cancer called leiomyosarcoma.=C2- He sold h
is Pietenpol to Ryan Mueller and I ferried it from Tennessee to Brodhead fo
r Ryan, flying in formation with Randy Bush.
I had not heard from Gene in several months so I gave him a call last week
to see how he was doing.=C2- I did not get him, but left a message on his
voicemail, and feared that his health was deteriorating.
Yesterday he called me, and to my great surprise and delight, he sounded wo
nderful and strong.=C2- He told me that he had been so sick from his prev
ious chemotherapy treatments that he had just about decided to stop the tre
atments and let the disease run its course (his initial prognosis from Vand
erbilt Hospital last spring had given him 2 =93 3 months to live).=C2
- He went to see his Oncologist in Louisville, KY, who put him on a new c
hemo drug.=C2- Monday, he went back for a CT Scan and checkup and the doc
tor literally came jumping up and down in his office with the scan results.
=C2- The tumors were shrinking!=C2-
Bear in mind that this cancer is very rare, and has always been considered
untreatable.=C2- Remission is not possible.=C2- Until now.
Gene feels like he suddenly has a future again!=C2- He is already discuss
ing the possibility of building a Pietenpol, and may make the trek to Brodh
ead this coming July.=C2- He flies every day the weather permits (he boug
ht a Kolb Slingshot shortly after he sold his Pietenpol), and feels better
than he has felt in months.=C2- I told him this was the best news I had r
eceived all year.
Just wanted to pass this on to the best group of people on the internet.=C2
- Merry Christmas!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
Raleigh, NC
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