Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 12/18/10


Total Messages Posted: 29



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     1. 12:50 AM - Re: dash (Clif Dawson)
     2. 04:31 AM - Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system (Dangerous Dave)
     3. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: Please report in (helspersew@aol.com)
     4. 05:38 AM - Re: dash (Charles Campbell)
     5. 05:43 AM - Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system (helspersew@aol.com)
     6. 05:43 AM - Re: Re: Please report in (Charles Campbell)
     7. 05:52 AM - Re: Please report in (Pieti Lowell)
     8. 05:53 AM - Re: Cowl (pineymb)
     9. 06:54 AM - Re: dash (Harvey Rule)
    10. 07:24 AM - Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system (Charles Campbell)
    11. 07:37 AM - Re: dash (Ben Charvet)
    12. 07:50 AM - Re: dash (Jerry Dotson)
    13. 08:55 AM - Re: runway length? (Jerry Dotson)
    14. 09:58 AM - Re: dash (Bill Church)
    15. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: dash (Ryan Mueller)
    16. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: dash (Ryan Mueller)
    17. 11:31 AM - Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system (helspersew@aol.com)
    18. 12:31 PM - Re: dash (Jerry Dotson)
    19. 01:25 PM - Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system (Rick Holland)
    20. 01:55 PM - Re: Re: dash (Clif Dawson)
    21. 01:57 PM - Re: Re: Please report in (Clif Dawson)
    22. 02:20 PM - Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system (Richard Schreiber)
    23. 04:34 PM - Re: TIG inverter welder? (aussiegeorge)
    24. 05:02 PM - Re: TIG inverter welder? (Dangerous Dave)
    25. 06:11 PM - Re: TIG inverter welder? (Jerry Dotson)
    26. 07:41 PM - Re: Please report in (Pieti Lowell)
    27. 09:24 PM - Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational speach (kevinpurtee)
    28. 09:27 PM - Re: Old Technologyies meet (kevinpurtee)
    29. 10:03 PM - Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational speach (bender)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:50:53 AM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: dash
    Does anyone recognize this? Clif


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    Time: 04:31:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system
    From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
    I am covering with Stewarts and Ceconite 101.I anticipate no problems.Purchased their DVD pack and watched it all a couple of times,Have talked with Doug and Dan and they are very helpful.I have inhaled enough Poly poison Rand o caine to last a lifetime.Dave -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323738#323738


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    Time: 05:21:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Please report in
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Yes Mike, everything counts, if you are a member (in good standing) of this list. Looking forward to meeting your acquaintance. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: GliderMike Sent: Fri, Dec 17, 2010 9:04 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Please report in I plan to be at Brodhead for the first time! Does that count for anything, even if I drive a car up there? -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323651#323651


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    Time: 05:38:49 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: dash
    Looks awful busy to me. Can't figure what all those instruments are for. He must have figured on going inadvertant IFR at some point. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:48 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: dash > Does anyone recognize this? > > Clif


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    Time: 05:43:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Hi Dave, I used the Stewart System, and would highly recommend it. It is heavenly ju st to walk over to your utility sink and clean up with only hot water. Thin k of how many times you would typically need to spray solvent through gun p arts etc. YUK! The SS glue is great stuff to work with. One thing though, t he room temperature needs to be warm (70+) otherwise you will be frustrated with the pace. Initially tried to start in by cold basement and gave up. T he glue depends on evaporation. I am now in the process of hand-painting my logo on the side of the fuze. I had a fuel leak previously and dribbles of gasoline were slowly making the ir run down my fuselage finished paint job. When I discovered it I set to w ork at stain removal with Dirtex (common store-bought cleaner). I was very worried, as I continued to rub and rub pretty hard to get it clean. I am ve ry impressed at how the SS paint holds up to that type of punishment. Also, if your final color coat will be a light color (white, yellow etc.) the un derlying primer must be white, with VERY LITTLE of the "silver" showing thr ough. The color coats are great, but thin, and do not cover dark underlying spots very well. Also, the Stewarts are very good at tech support and call back without fail. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: dnboyd1 <dnboyd1@comcast.net> Sent: Fri, Dec 17, 2010 3:45 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system Getting ready to start covering.... Has anyone any experience with the new Stewart Systems, from Hanger 21? It is non toxic, no chemicals, etc. and you can work indoors. Dave Boyd Champaign, IL 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D -=3D -=3D -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -=3D (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) -=3D -=3D November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on -=3D the Contribution link below to find out more about -=3D this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided -=3D by: -=3D -=3D * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com -=3D * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com -=3D * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com -=3D -=3D List Contribution Web Site: -=3D -=3D --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -=3D -=3D Thank you for your generous support! -=3D -=3D -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -=3D -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D -=3D - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -=3D Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -=3D the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -=3D Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -=3D Photoshare, and much much more: -=3D -=3D --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List -=3D -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D -=3D - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -=3D Same great content also available via the Web Forums! -=3D -=3D --> http://forums.matronics.com -=3D -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


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    Time: 05:43:27 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Please report in
    Dan and the rest, you're all just a bunch of children. I have a son and daughter (twins) who are older than any of you! ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:18 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Please report in Yes Mike, everything counts, if you are a member (in good standing) of this list. Looking forward to meeting your acquaintance. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: GliderMike To: pietenpol-list Sent: Fri, Dec 17, 2010 9:04 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Please report in I plan to be at Brodhead for the first time! Does that count for anything, even if I drive a car up there? -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323651#323651 ========== ========== ========== ==========


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    Time: 05:52:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Please report in
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    30 again is nice--:: --- 40 again is nicer, pieti lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323744#323744


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    Time: 05:53:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cowl
    From: "pineymb" <airltd@mts.net>
    Chuck What I am referring to as the nose cone is the front most section of the engine cowl. Your reference to "rabbit ears" is whats commonly known as Cub style "eyebrows" which are shown in the attachment. Thanks to all for your feedback and it appears that a cutout in the nose cone is not required. -------- Adrian M Winnipeg, MB Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323745#323745


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    Time: 06:54:33 AM PST US
    From: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@bell.net>
    Subject: dash
    Looks like the cockpit of an F104.Do you ever notice deviation on your comp ass due to the proximity of the GPS? Or interferance on your radio due to the proximity of the GPS?I had my radi o antenia about 3 ft away from my GPS antenia and when the GPS was on you c ouldn't here anything but hash from the radio. > From: CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: dash > Date: Sat=2C 18 Dec 2010 00:48:47 -0800 > > Does anyone recognize this? > > Clif


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    Time: 07:24:35 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system
    Dan, I was very surprised to see that the Stewart company is in Cashmere Washington. Several years ago I was restoring a PA22 and turning it into a taildragger, PA20. A fellow, Doug Stewart, in Cashmere had already been through the same problems I was having and he helped me a lot in my restoration. Mary and I met Doug and Rava at a short-wing Piper club annual flyin in Michigan and got to know them fairly well. Later Mary and I were on a round-the-country trek in our truck and trailer and passed through Cashmere and visited with Doug and Rava. Of course, we went flying in his PA20 both times we met. Cashmere is not big enough to have two unrelated Stewart families so the Stewart company almost has to be his family. Do you know the background of the company and whether it's Doug or maybe a son who started it? I would like to call Doug but would really like to find out if it is his family's business before I call. Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system Hi Dave, I used the Stewart System, and would highly recommend it. It is heavenly just to walk over to your utility sink and clean up with only hot water. Think of how many times you would typically need to spray solvent through gun parts etc. YUK! The SS glue is great stuff to work with. One thing though, the room temperature needs to be warm (70+) otherwise you will be frustrated with the pace. Initially tried to start in by cold basement and gave up. The glue depends on evaporation. I am now in the process of hand-painting my logo on the side of the fuze. I had a fuel leak previously and dribbles of gasoline were slowly making their run down my fuselage finished paint job. When I discovered it I set to work at stain removal with Dirtex (common store-bought cleaner). I was very worried, as I continued to rub and rub pretty hard to get it clean. I am very impressed at how the SS paint holds up to that type of punishment. Also, if your final color coat will be a light color (white, yellow etc.) the underlying primer must be white, with VERY LITTLE of the "silver" showing through. The color coats are great, but thin, and do not cover dark underlying spots very well. Also, the Stewarts are very good at tech support and call back without fail. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: dnboyd1 <dnboyd1@comcast.net> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 17, 2010 3:45 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system Getting ready to start covering.... Has anyone any experience with the new Stewart Systems, from Hanger 21? It is non toxic, no chemicals, etc. and you can work indoors. Dave Boyd Champaign, IL 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


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    Time: 07:37:11 AM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: dash
    On 12/18/2010 3:48 AM, Clif Dawson wrote: > Does anyone recognize this? > > Clif looks like one of the "Big Piets" to me. Ben


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    Time: 07:50:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: dash
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    I did a search of my Piet pictures and pretty certain it is this one. I copied the data from airport-data.com/manuf/Pietenpol.html C-GFCU 1982 Pietenpol PIETENPOL AIRCAMPER GN 1 198 1 Ontario, Canada -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323756#323756 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/gn1_c_gfcu_right_195.jpg


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    Time: 08:55:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: runway length?
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    Just adding some small picture of my runway from above. The other is on short final ............ looking toward that *&%#& power line. All your ducks have to be lined up all in a row. I apologize for the dirty windshield. I didn't realize it was dirty until viewing the pictures. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323761#323761 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/my_runway_on_short_final_104.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/my_runway_630.jpg


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    Time: 09:58:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: dash
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    I'd say that Jerry nailed it. If you look at the fire extinguisher, you can see the call letters GFCU, which match the photo that Jerry posted. Bill C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323762#323762


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    Time: 10:10:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: dash
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Wikipedia concurs... :P Ryan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PIETENPOL_AIRCAMPER_GN_1_C-GFCU_instrument_panel.JPG On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote: > billspiet@sympatico.ca> > > I'd say that Jerry nailed it. > If you look at the fire extinguisher, you can see the call letters GFCU, > which match the photo that Jerry posted. > > Bill C > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323762#323762 > >


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    Time: 10:11:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: dash
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Woops, just found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PietenpolAirCamperGN1.JPG On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote: > Wikipedia concurs... :P > > Ryan > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PIETENPOL_AIRCAMPER_GN_1_C-GFCU_instrument_panel.JPG > > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>wrote: > >> billspiet@sympatico.ca> >> >> I'd say that Jerry nailed it. >> If you look at the fire extinguisher, you can see the call letters GFCU, >> which match the photo that Jerry posted. >> >> Bill C >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323762#323762 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >


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    Time: 11:31:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Hi Chuck, There is one easy way to find out. Look at all the Youtube videos the two o f them have put out and you will see them in person. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=rl9I3FOA6Bc Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net> Sent: Sat, Dec 18, 2010 9:24 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system Dan, I was very surprised to see that the Stewart company is in Cashmere Wa shington. Several years ago I was restoring a PA22 and turning it into a t aildragger, PA20. A fellow, Doug Stewart, in Cashmere had already been thr ough the same problems I was having and he helped me a lot in my restoratio n. Mary and I met Doug and Rava at a short-wing Piper club annual flyin in Michigan and got to know them fairly well. Later Mary and I were on a rou nd-the-country trek in our truck and trailer and passed through Cashmere an d visited with Doug and Rava. Of course, we went flying in his PA20 both t imes we met. Cashmere is not big enough to have two unrelated Stewart fami lies so the Stewart company almost has to be his family. Do you know the b ackground of the company and whether it's Doug or maybe a son who started i t? I would like to call Doug but would really like to find out if it is hi s family's business before I call. Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system Hi Dave, I used the Stewart System, and would highly recommend it. It is heavenly ju st to walk over to your utility sink and clean up with only hot water. Thin k of how many times you would typically need to spray solvent through gun p arts etc. YUK! The SS glue is great stuff to work with. One thing though, t he room temperature needs to be warm (70+) otherwise you will be frustrated with the pace. Initially tried to start in by cold basement and gave up. T he glue depends on evaporation. I am now in the process of hand-painting my logo on the side of the fuze. I had a fuel leak previously and dribbles of gasoline were slowly making the ir run down my fuselage finished paint job. When I discovered it I set to w ork at stain removal with Dirtex (common store-bought cleaner). I was very worried, as I continued to rub and rub pretty hard to get it clean. I am ve ry impressed at how the SS paint holds up to that type of punishment. Also, if your final color coat will be a light color (white, yellow etc.) the un derlying primer must be white, with VERY LITTLE of the "silver" showing thr ough. The color coats are great, but thin, and do not cover dark underlying spots very well. Also, the Stewarts are very good at tech support and call back without fail. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: dnboyd1 <dnboyd1@comcast.net> Sent: Fri, Dec 17, 2010 3:45 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system Getting ready to start covering.... Has anyone any experience with the new Stewart Systems, from Hanger 21? It is non toxic, no chemicals, etc. and you can work indoors. 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    Time: 12:31:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: dash
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    I collect anything Pietenpol and I have another picture of it from the left. It appears it was at a fly-in on this one. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323771#323771 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/gn1_c_gfcu_left_516.jpg


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    Time: 01:25:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    I have worked with EcoBond at temps as low as 60 with no problem but I live in Colorado where the humidity is low with aids evaporation. On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:40 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I used the Stewart System, and would highly recommend it. It is heavenly > just to walk over to your utility sink and clean up with only hot water. > Think of how many times you would typically need to spray solvent through > gun parts etc. YUK! The SS glue is great stuff to work with. One thing > though, the room temperature needs to be warm (70+) otherwise you will be > frustrated with the pace. Initially tried to start in by cold basement and > gave up. The glue depends on evaporation. > I am now in the process of hand-painting my logo on the side of the fuze. I > had a fuel leak previously and dribbles of gasoline were slowly making their > run down my fuselage finished paint job. When I discovered it I set to work > at stain removal with Dirtex (common store-bought cleaner). I was very > worried, as I continued to rub and rub pretty hard to get it clean. I am > very impressed at how the SS paint holds up to that type of punishment. > Also, if your final color coat will be a light color (white, yellow etc.) > the underlying primer must be white, with VERY LITTLE of the "silver" > showing through. The color coats are great, but thin, and do not cover dark > underlying spots very well. Also, the Stewarts are very good at tech support > and call back without fail. > > Dan Helsper > Poplar Grove, IL. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dnboyd1 <dnboyd1@comcast.net> > To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Fri, Dec 17, 2010 3:45 pm > Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system > > Getting ready to start covering.... Has anyone any experience with the > new Stewart Systems, from Hanger 21? > It is non toxic, no chemicals, etc. and you can work indoors. > Dave Boyd > Champaign, IL > > * > > 3D============================================ > 3D============================================ > 3D============================================ > 3D=======================================* > > * > > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 01:55:39 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: dash
    OK, got it. http://wwwapps2.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/2/ccarcs/aspscripts/en/current.asp When this photo was sent to me, via New Zealand of all places, I was struck by all that "stuff" in the thing. Since it appears to have been built by a club I'm wondering if the "commitee effect" got the better of them. :-) Also look at the green arc on the airspeed! Clif "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupery > If you look at the fire extinguisher, you can see the call letters GFCU, > which match the photo that Jerry posted. > > Bill C


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    Time: 01:57:19 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Please report in
    And just how did you get to be so old O ancient and venerable one? :-) Clif "Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: If you are alive, it isn't." ~ Richard Bach From: Charles Campbell Dan and the rest, you're all just a bunch of children. I have a son and daughter (twins) who are older than any of you!


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    Time: 02:20:48 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system
    Chuck: I also am a member of the Short Wing Piper Club, a member of the Michigan chapter and fly a PA 22. You are correct about who is behind the Stewart System Co. It is the same Doug and Rava Stewart and Doug's brother Dan. It is my understanding that the Stewarts bought out the old AFS system and improved upon it, especially the top coat system. Here is a link to the info on the old AFS system http://www.challengers101.com/WingCovering1.html and to the Stewarts site http://www.stewartsystems.aero/ I am finishing up my Pietenpol and will probably cover it this spring or summer. I definitely plan on using the Stewart System for covering. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso IN ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Campbell Sent: 12/18/2010 9:26:53 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system Dan, I was very surprised to see that the Stewart company is in Cashmere Washington. Several years ago I was restoring a PA22 and turning it into a taildragger, PA20. A fellow, Doug Stewart, in Cashmere had already been through the same problems I was having and he helped me a lot in my restoration. Mary and I met Doug and Rava at a short-wing Piper club annual flyin in Michigan and got to know them fairly well. Later Mary and I were on a round-the-country trek in our truck and trailer and passed through Cashmere and visited with Doug and Rava. Of course, we went flying in his PA20 both times we met. Cashmere is not big enough to have two unrelated Stewart families so the Stewart company almost has to be his family. Do you know the background of the company and whether it's Doug or maybe a son who started it? I would like to call Doug but would really like to find out if it is his family's business before I call. Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system Hi Dave, I used the Stewart System, and would highly recommend it. It is heavenly just to walk over to your utility sink and clean up with only hot water. Think of how many times you would typically need to spray solvent through gun parts etc. YUK! The SS glue is great stuff to work with. One thing though, the room temperature needs to be warm (70+) otherwise you will be frustrated with the pace. Initially tried to start in by cold basement and gave up. The glue depends on evaporation. I am now in the process of hand-painting my logo on the side of the fuze. I had a fuel leak previously and dribbles of gasoline were slowly making their run down my fuselage finished paint job. When I discovered it I set to work at stain removal with Dirtex (common store-bought cleaner). I was very worried, as I continued to rub and rub pretty hard to get it clean. I am very impressed at how the SS paint holds up to that type of punishment. Also, if your final color coat will be a light color (white, yellow etc.) the underlying primer must be white, with VERY LITTLE of the "silver" showing through. The color coats are great, but thin, and do not cover dark underlying spots very well. Also, the Stewarts are very good at tech support and call back without fail. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: dnboyd1 <dnboyd1@comcast.net> Sent: Fri, Dec 17, 2010 3:45 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Stewart Systems, Hanger 21 Covering system Getting ready to start covering.... Has anyone any experience with the new Stewart Systems, from Hanger 21? It is non toxic, no chemicals, etc. and you can work indoors. Dave Boyd Champaign, IL 3D============================================ 3D============================================ 3D============================================ 3D====================================== href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 04:34:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: TIG inverter welder?
    From: "aussiegeorge" <avionixoz@yahoo.com>
    HI All I bought a CT 316 three in one combo welder. In australia it will run on a 15 amp 240 V outlet. I have had it for about two years and it has been a beautiful machine. I have not yet tig welded with it. Arc and plasma are as advertized. It uses really cheap consumeables and torches. I hacked up an old shopping cart to hold all the stuff. It needs compressed air for the plasma cutting so a small el cheapo compressor sits at the bottom. You need argon for tig welding. I installed an eastman three way valve to switch between argon and compressed air. You need a drawer to keep the little stuff in. Mine is a plastic affair. I put a wooden top on it to hold the goggles welding helmet , face shield and ear muffs. Plasma cutting is very noisy. Still to come is a small 4 inch grinder for the tungstens. Can't seem to find a 240 v one of those. There are lots of hooks to hold the various leads. I notice that ebay has some very nice combo units that have foot pedals. The foot pedal is a really good thing for both plasma cutting and tig welding. Buy the book Performance welding. The guy is easy to read and completely correct in what he says 99.9 percent. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323785#323785


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    Time: 05:02:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: TIG inverter welder?
    From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
    I also have a CAT 316.Works great but its DC so aluminum is out have to use my Miller econotig for that. -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323787#323787


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    Time: 06:11:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: TIG inverter welder?
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    I have an old Miller GoldStar 330 that I bought in 1980 for around $3000. I used it today. It is 30 years old but can still out perform me! It takes up a lot of space...about 24W x 30L X 40 H. Little water cooled torch is nice to get in close places. It does stick rods too. Max output is 435 amps. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323788#323788


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    Time: 07:41:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Please report in
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    pick your parents wisely Pieti lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323790#323790


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    Time: 09:24:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
    speach
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Several years ago a company was offering fuselage kits and they were lovely. I looked at the photos and noted that, while beautiful, there were none of my sweat stains or blood stains anywhere on the fuselage. Just wouldn't have been the same. Nothing like building your own airplane, ground up, from a roll of blueprints. Enjoy buildapalooza, John, and all you others. (John: officially qual'd in the new machine. Frightening! Back to AZ for instructor school in January. Doubly frightening!) Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323793#323793


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    Time: 09:27:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Old Technologyies meet
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Beautiful plane, beautiful motor. Love it. do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323794#323794


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    Time: 10:03:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
    speach
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    a friend came by the hangar today... liked the piet so far.. asked about the bag full of wood shavings.. then i explained my building, and why my right shoulder has been sore. i rip each piece of wood with my 100 year old band saw.... the lay each piece, ribstock or longeron, or any other piece of wood on the bench and grab my block plane... 3 strokes removes the saw marks and that bag of shavings is every stroke i've made this plane is hand made jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323795#323795




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