Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 12/19/10


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: Please report in (Charles Campbell)
     2. 12:07 PM - Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
     3. 01:35 PM - New to list (jimisown@aol.com)
     4. 01:55 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Charles Campbell)
     5. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational speach (Jim Boyer)
     6. 02:10 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jim Boyer)
     7. 02:12 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Ryan Mueller)
     8. 02:26 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
     9. 02:27 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Rick Holland)
    10. 02:29 PM - Re: New to list (Jerry Dotson)
    11. 03:12 PM - Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational speach (kevinpurtee)
    12. 03:13 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Charles Campbell)
    13. 03:21 PM - Happy and Blessed Holidays to all you Piet People (kevinpurtee)
    14. 03:31 PM - Progress Pics (Dangerous Dave)
    15. 04:00 PM - Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? ()
    16. 04:22 PM - Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one! (airlion)
    17. 04:50 PM - Re: New to list (Jack Phillips)
    18. 05:00 PM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Jack Phillips)
    19. 05:08 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack Phillips)
    20. 05:10 PM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? ()
    21. 05:45 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
    22. 07:12 PM - Re: Soon will be building (Kelly Klaus)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:05:24 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Please report in
    By just hanging in there!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Clif Dawson To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Please report in And just how did you get to be so old O ancient and venerable one? :-) Clif "Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: If you are alive, it isn't." ~ Richard Bach From: Charles Campbell Dan and the rest, you're all just a bunch of children. I have a son and daughter (twins) who are older than any of you!


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    Time: 12:07:41 PM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Lower motor mount straps
    The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well. It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building? Thanks, Jack Jack Textor 29 SW 58th Drive Des Moines, IA 50312 www.textors.com


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    Time: 01:35:12 PM PST US
    Subject: New to list
    From: jimisown@aol.com
    I'm new to the list and while I've been an A and P for 20+ years, I have n ever built my own plane nor am I a pilot (yet). Are there any builders in t he Norfolk, Virginia area? Fr. Jim Lingenfelter


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    Time: 01:55:55 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Lower motor mount straps
    Lower motor mount strapsI'm using the motor mounts designed for the GN 1. I'll send you copies of my drawings if you want them. I felt the same way you do about having to cut the cross pieces. My mounts are completely outside the wood structure. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well. It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building? Thanks, Jack Jack Textor 29 SW 58th Drive Des Moines, IA 50312 www.textors.com


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    Time: 02:08:14 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
    speach Kevin, Congratulations on being qualified in the new helicopter. I have been wondering how you were doing since Arlene and I saw you at Copperstate. Merry Christmas and Cheers, Jim Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:22:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational speach Several years ago a company was offering fuselage kits and they were lovely. I looked at the photos and noted that, while beautiful, there were none of my sweat stains or blood stains anywhere on the fuselage. Just wouldn't have been the same. Nothing like building your own airplane, ground up, from a roll of blueprints. Enjoy buildapalooza, John, and all you others. (John: officially qual'd in the new machine. Frightening! Back to AZ for instructor school in January. Doubly frightening!) Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323793#323793


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    Time: 02:10:59 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Lower motor mount straps
    Hi Jack, I blocked in the area just above the lower longeron and moved the lower motor mounts up one inch so I would not have to cut the cross brace. Worked fine. Cheers, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:04:47 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well. It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building? Thanks, Jack Jack Textor 29 SW 58th Drive Des Moines, IA 50312 www.textors.com


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    Time: 02:12:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lower motor mount straps
    From: "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Waiting for a flight, no plans in front of me so goin g from memory, but I'm pretty sure cutting a slot in the cross piece is just how you have to do it. That's how it is on ours, no issues. If I recall that's h ow most Piets are... Ryan Ryan Mueller -----Original Message----- From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com Lower motor mount straps This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


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    Time: 02:26:07 PM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Lower motor mount straps
    Charles good thought! I have a set and will check it out. Thanks Jack Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well. It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building? Thanks, Jack Jack Textor 29 SW 58th Drive Des Moines, IA 50312 www.textors.com


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    Time: 02:27:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lower motor mount straps
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    With that big slab of 1/4" floor plywood glued to the lower longerons the bottom cross brace does not need to contact the longerons, just the floor and firewall. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote: > The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for > the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well. > It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple > of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with > that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building? > > Thanks, > > Jack > > Jack Textor > > 29 SW 58th Drive > > Des Moines, IA 50312 > > www.textors.com > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 02:29:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: New to list
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    Let me be the first to welcome you to the Pietenpol list. You will find a great bunch of builders and flyers here. Building can be very rewarding. Lots of experience here too. We range in age from 13 to somewhere around 80. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323848#323848


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    Time: 03:12:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
    speach
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    "Qualified" is optimistic, Jim, but we'll figure it out. Got 4 wing ribs done for the corby while in AZ. Will try for another 4-6 on this next trip (Jan - Apr). Your taxpayer dollars at work:). I've got 3 weeks to fly the plane before I head back out. It's cold enough (with all due respect to the cold-hardened people of the north) that I'll go light on that. Gives an opportunity to do some maintenance. Happy holidays to you and your family, Jim. Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323853#323853


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    Time: 03:13:54 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Lower motor mount straps
    Wish I had thought of that!!! Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boyer" <boyerjrb@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps > > Hi Jack, > I blocked in the area just above the lower longeron and moved the lower > motor mounts up one inch so I would not have to cut the cross brace. > Worked fine. > Cheers, > Jim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:04:47 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps > > The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for > the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well. > It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple > of > inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with > that. > Could others share how they dealt with this part of building? > Thanks, > Jack > > Jack Textor > 29 SW 58th Drive > Des Moines, IA 50312 > www.textors.com > > >


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    Time: 03:21:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Happy and Blessed Holidays to all you Piet People
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Pretty sure the thread was coming so I thought I'd start it. The subject says it all. You guys are great. Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323855#323855


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    Time: 03:31:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Progress Pics
    From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
    Howdy,Covering the wings.Stewart Systems working great!dave -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323856#323856 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_19_15_54_41_476_835.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_19_15_54_21_598_184.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_19_10_54_14_220_539.jpg


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    Time: 04:00:20 PM PST US
    From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
    Subject: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
    I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures they sent show the cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case painted grey. I am not very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this is typical and would the paint not being burned off mean it is very low time? Rodney Hall


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    Time: 04:22:16 PM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one!
    I had to share this with everyone. Merry christmas ya'll. Cheers, Gardiner ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Susan G. Mason <susangmason@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 5:12:15 PM Subject: Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one! Saw this and thought of all of us dog lovers!!! ________________________________ Hope springs eternal - even for the dogs! Hope you can open this. Merry Christmas!!! > Click on the dog > > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 02:34:00


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    Time: 04:50:34 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: New to list
    Hi Jim, I'm in Raleigh, NC - not too far away. My Pietenpol is based at Smith Mountain Lake, VA (W91). Chuck Borsuk is also in the Raleigh area. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimisown@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to list I'm new to the list and while I've been an A and P for 20+ years, I have never built my own plane nor am I a pilot (yet). Are there any builders in the Norfolk, Virginia area? Fr. Jim Lingenfelter


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    Time: 05:00:13 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
    You can't tell much from paint. My crankcase is black and my cylinders are grey but the whole thing I rebuilt a little over 200 hours ago. If the pain has burned off, something has overheated. What kind of engine is it, and how much time does it have on it? Jack Phillips NX899JP "icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of r.r.hall@cox.net Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures they sent show the cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case painted grey. I am not very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this is typical and would the paint not being burned off mean it is very low time? Rodney Hall


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    Time: 05:08:18 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Lower motor mount straps
    Jack, As others have said, the cross brace contributes little strength in that area, as long as it is glued well to the floorbard and firewall plywood. Just cut it to get it out of the way and give yourself room for the fitting and its mounting bolts. Good luck! Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:05 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well. It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building? Thanks, Jack Jack Textor 29 SW 58th Drive Des Moines, IA 50312 www.textors.com


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    Time: 05:10:27 PM PST US
    From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
    Subject: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
    I wasn't sure if the paint would burn off or not. It is supposed to have a bout 200 hours on it but I haven't seen the logbooks yet. ---- Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote: > You can=99t tell much from paint.=C2- Mycrankcase is black and my c ylinders are grey but the whole thing I rebuilt alittle over 200 hours ago. =C2- If the pain has burned off, something hasoverheated. =C2- What kind of engine is it, and how muchtime does it have on it? =C2- Jack Phillips NX899JP=C2- =9Cicarus Plummet=9D Raleigh, NC =C2- From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list- server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of r.r.hall@cox.net Sent: Sunday, December 19, 20106:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new orrebuilt engines come painted? =C2- I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures theysent show t he cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case paintedgrey. I am not very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this istypical and would the paint not being burned off mean it is very low time? 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    Time: 05:45:54 PM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Lower motor mount straps
    All good thoughts, thanks all! Jack DSM Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well. It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building? Thanks, Jack Jack Textor 29 SW 58th Drive Des Moines, IA 50312 www.textors.com


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    Time: 07:12:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Soon will be building
    From: "Kelly Klaus" <kklaus1@austin.rr.com>
    Hey all, I would like to wish everyone here a very Merry Christmas! Today I finished building my 2nd 8' work table, and awaiting my spruce from ACS. Will update when it gets in. Cheers! -------- Kelly Klaus do not archive. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323876#323876




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