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1. 04:36 AM - Re: Re: Soon will be building (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 04:49 AM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Charles Campbell)
3. 06:17 AM - Re: Progress Pics (Charles Campbell)
4. 06:39 AM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Jeff wilson)
5. 07:01 AM - Duxford England (TOM STINEMETZE)
6. 07:01 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 12/19/10 (Chester Peek)
7. 07:35 AM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Bill Church)
8. 07:36 AM - Re: New to List (Woodflier@aol.com)
9. 08:03 AM - Re: Progress Pics (Dangerous Dave)
10. 08:03 AM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Ryan Mueller)
11. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: Progress Pics (Charles Campbell)
12. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 12/19/10 (Charles Campbell)
13. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Charles Campbell)
14. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Charles Campbell)
15. 10:25 AM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Bill Church)
16. 11:14 AM - Re: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational speach (Jim Boyer)
17. 11:59 AM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Jack Phillips)
18. 12:32 PM - Pietenpols flying in or near =?UTF-8?Q?CT=3F? ()
19. 12:33 PM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Kip and Beth Gardner)
20. 12:38 PM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (kevinpurtee)
21. 12:40 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 12/19/10 (kevinpurtee)
22. 01:04 PM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Don Heringhaus)
23. 01:25 PM - Re: Duxford England (Gboothe5)
24. 01:48 PM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Jack Phillips)
25. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Soon will be building (Rick Holland)
26. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Soon will be building (Rick Holland)
27. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Gboothe5)
28. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Soon will be building (Rick Holland)
29. 02:24 PM - Re: Pietenpols flying in or near CT? (Jack Phillips)
30. 03:35 PM - Re: Age thread, Chet Peek (helspersew@aol.com)
31. 03:42 PM - Re: Pietenpols flying in or near CT? (helspersew@aol.com)
32. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (helspersew@aol.com)
33. 04:03 PM - Re: Progress Pics (Rick Holland)
34. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 12/19/10 (Rick Holland)
35. 05:40 PM - Re: Progress Pics (AlRice)
36. 06:00 PM - Re: Progress Pics (Dangerous Dave)
37. 07:16 PM - Re: Re: Soon will be building (Dick N)
38. 08:02 PM - Re: Re: Soon will be building (Jeff Boatright)
39. 08:13 PM - Re: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Jeff Boatright)
40. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: Soon will be building (Ryan Mueller)
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| Subject: | Re: Soon will be building |
Hi Kelly,
Even though I am done, I envy you in a lot of ways. Countless enjoyable hou
rs of designing and building in front of you. Enjoy every minute of it rath
er than rush to get something done. I used my project to learn a great deal
on a variety of subjects.
Wishing all on this list a very blessed Christmas and Happy New Year ahead.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Klaus <kklaus1@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2010 9:13 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Soon will be building
Hey all,
would like to wish everyone here a very Merry Christmas!
Today I finished building my 2nd 8' work table, and awaiting my spruce from
ACS.
Will update when it gets in.
Cheers!
--------
elly Klaus
do not archive.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323876#323876
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
I once owned a Cessna 150 with a Continental O-200 on which I had to
have a major overhaul performed. It came back with a new paint job --
gold case and black cylinders. I don't know if it's common practice but
I suspect it is. Don't believe the paint would burn off the case.
Incidentally, it would have been better had the push rod tubes been
painted white to reflect some of the heat from the cylinders. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: r.r.hall@cox.net
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:05 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
I wasn't sure if the paint would burn off or not. It is supposed to
have a bout 200 hours on it but I haven't seen the logbooks yet.
---- Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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You can=99t tell much from paint. Mycrankcase is black and my
cylinders are grey but the whole thing I rebuilt alittle over 200 hours
ago. If the pain has burned off, something hasoverheated.
What kind of engine is it, and how muchtime does it have on it?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =9Cicarus Plummet=9D
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new orrebuilt engines come painted?
I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures theysent
show the cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case
paintedgrey. I am not very familiar with new engines so was wondering if
this istypical and would the paint not being burned off mean it is very
low time?
Rodney Hall
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| Subject: | Re: Progress Pics |
Is that the 350-degree ironing? Pics are great. How did you fasten the
wing tip to the stand?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress Pics
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> Howdy,Covering the wings.Stewart Systems working great!dave
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Just in case there might be one or two of you on the list that like to
watch airplanes in flight - here is a link to the annual Duxford Airshow.
Sixteen, count them, 16 Spitfires in the air at the same time.
Stinemetze
http://www.airshows.org.uk/2010/airshows/duxford-battle-of-britain-airshow-
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 12/19/10 |
Age comment. I'm 90 and working on my Piet this morning. Chet peek Norman ok
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> 1. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: Please report in (Charles Campbell)
> 2. 12:07 PM - Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
> 3. 01:35 PM - New to list (jimisown@aol.com)
> 4. 01:55 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Charles Campbell)
> 5. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
speach (Jim Boyer)
> 6. 02:10 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jim Boyer)
> 7. 02:12 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Ryan Mueller)
> 8. 02:26 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
> 9. 02:27 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Rick Holland)
> 10. 02:29 PM - Re: New to list (Jerry Dotson)
> 11. 03:12 PM - Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational speach
(kevinpurtee)
> 12. 03:13 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Charles Campbell)
> 13. 03:21 PM - Happy and Blessed Holidays to all you Piet People (kevinpurtee)
> 14. 03:31 PM - Progress Pics (Dangerous Dave)
> 15. 04:00 PM - Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? ()
> 16. 04:22 PM - Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one! (airlion)
> 17. 04:50 PM - Re: New to list (Jack Phillips)
> 18. 05:00 PM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Jack Phillips)
> 19. 05:08 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack Phillips)
> 20. 05:10 PM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? ()
> 21. 05:45 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
> 22. 07:12 PM - Re: Soon will be building (Kelly Klaus)
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> From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Please report in
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> By just hanging in there!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:55 PM
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> And just how did you get to be so old O ancient and
> venerable one? :-)
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> Clif
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> "Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: If
> you are alive, it isn't."
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> From: Charles Campbell
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> Dan and the rest, you're all just a bunch of children. I have a son
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>
> Time: 12:07:41 PM PST US
> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of
> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that.
> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
> Jack Textor
> 29 SW 58th Drive
> Des Moines, IA 50312
> www.textors.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:35:12 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to list
> From: jimisown@aol.com
>
>
> I'm new to the list and while I've been an A and P for 20+ years, I have n
> ever built my own plane nor am I a pilot (yet). Are there any builders in t
> he Norfolk, Virginia area?
>
> Fr. Jim Lingenfelter
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:55:55 PM PST US
> From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
> Lower motor mount strapsI'm using the motor mounts designed for the GN
> 1. I'll send you copies of my drawings if you want them. I felt the
> same way you do about having to cut the cross pieces. My mounts are
> completely outside the wood structure. Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:04 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
>
> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings
> for the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application
> well. It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a
> couple of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real
> comfortable with that. Could others share how they dealt with this part
> of building?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> Jack Textor
>
> 29 SW 58th Drive
>
> Des Moines, IA 50312
>
> www.textors.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:08:14 PM PST US
> From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
> speach
>
>
> Kevin,
> Congratulations on being qualified in the new helicopter. I have been wondering
> how you were doing since Arlene and I saw you at Copperstate.
> Merry Christmas and Cheers,
> Jim
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:22:08 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
> speach
>
>
> Several years ago a company was offering fuselage kits and they were lovely.
>
> I looked at the photos and noted that, while beautiful, there were none of my
sweat
> stains or blood stains anywhere on the fuselage.
>
> Just wouldn't have been the same. Nothing like building your own airplane, ground
> up, from a roll of blueprints.
>
> Enjoy buildapalooza, John, and all you others.
>
> (John: officially qual'd in the new machine. Frightening! Back to AZ for instructor
> school in January. Doubly frightening!)
>
> Kevin
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323793#323793
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:10:59 PM PST US
> From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
>
> Hi Jack,
> I blocked in the area just above the lower longeron and moved the lower motor
mounts
> up one inch so I would not have to cut the cross brace. Worked fine.
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:04:47 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of
> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that.
> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
> Jack Textor
> 29 SW 58th Drive
> Des Moines, IA 50312
> www.textors.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:12:51 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
> From: "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23@gmail.com>
>
> Waiting for a flight, no plans in front of me so goin
> g from memory, but I'm pretty sure cutting a slot in
> the cross piece is just how you have to do it. That's
> how it is on ours, no issues. If I recall that's h
> ow most Piets are...
>
> Ryan
>
> Ryan Mueller
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> Lower motor mount straps
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:26:07 PM PST US
> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
> Charles good thought! I have a set and will check it out.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jack
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:05 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
>
> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of
> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that.
> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> Jack Textor
>
> 29 SW 58th Drive
>
> Des Moines, IA 50312
>
> www.textors.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:27:38 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
> From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
>
> With that big slab of 1/4" floor plywood glued to the lower longerons the
> bottom cross brace does not need to contact the longerons, just the floor
> and firewall.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
>
>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
>> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
>> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
>> of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
>> that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> Jack Textor
>>
>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>>
>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>>
>> www.textors.com
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
>
> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
>
> ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:29:26 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to list
> From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
>
>
> Let me be the first to welcome you to the Pietenpol list. You will find a great
> bunch of builders and flyers here. Building can be very rewarding. Lots of experience
> here too. We range in age from 13 to somewhere around 80.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> wing, tailfeathers done
> using Lycoming O-235
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323848#323848
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:12:43 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
> speach
> From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
>
> "Qualified" is optimistic, Jim, but we'll figure it out.
>
> Got 4 wing ribs done for the corby while in AZ. Will try for another 4-6 on
this
> next trip (Jan - Apr). Your taxpayer dollars at work:).
>
> I've got 3 weeks to fly the plane before I head back out. It's cold enough (with
> all due respect to the cold-hardened people of the north) that I'll go light
> on that. Gives an opportunity to do some maintenance.
>
> Happy holidays to you and your family, Jim.
>
> Kevin
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323853#323853
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:13:54 PM PST US
> From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
>
> Wish I had thought of that!!! Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Boyer" <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
>
>>
>> Hi Jack,
>> I blocked in the area just above the lower longeron and moved the lower
>> motor mounts up one inch so I would not have to cut the cross brace.
>> Worked fine.
>> Cheers,
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:04:47 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
>> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
>> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
>> of
>> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
>> that.
>> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>> Thanks,
>> Jack
>>
>> Jack Textor
>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>> www.textors.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:21:02 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Happy and Blessed Holidays to all you Piet People
> From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
>
> Pretty sure the thread was coming so I thought I'd start it. The subject says
> it all. You guys are great.
>
> Kevin
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323855#323855
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:31:35 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress Pics
> From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
>
>
> Howdy,Covering the wings.Stewart Systems working great!dave
>
> --------
> Covering Piet
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323856#323856
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_19_15_54_41_476_835.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_19_15_54_21_598_184.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_19_10_54_14_220_539.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:00:20 PM PST US
> From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
>
> I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures they sent show the
> cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case painted grey. I am not
> very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this is typical and would
the
> paint not being burned off mean it is very low time?
> Rodney Hall
>
> ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:22:16 PM PST US
> From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one!
>
> I had to share this with everyone. Merry christmas ya'll. Cheers, Gardiner
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Susan G. Mason <susangmason@gmail.com>
> Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 5:12:15 PM
> Subject: Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one!
>
>
> Saw this and thought of all of us dog lovers!!!
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Hope springs eternal - even for the dogs! Hope you can open this.
>
> Merry Christmas!!!
>
>> Click on the dog
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> 02:34:00
>
> ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:50:34 PM PST US
> From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New to list
>
> Hi Jim,
>
>
> I'm in Raleigh, NC - not too far away. My Pietenpol is based at Smith
> Mountain Lake, VA (W91). Chuck Borsuk is also in the Raleigh area.
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> jimisown@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:26 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to list
>
>
> I'm new to the list and while I've been an A and P for 20+ years, I have
> never built my own plane nor am I a pilot (yet). Are there any builders in
> the Norfolk, Virginia area?
>
> Fr. Jim Lingenfelter
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:00:13 PM PST US
> From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
> You can't tell much from paint. My crankcase is black and my cylinders are
> grey but the whole thing I rebuilt a little over 200 hours ago. If the pain
> has burned off, something has overheated.
>
>
> What kind of engine is it, and how much time does it have on it?
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP "icarus Plummet"
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> r.r.hall@cox.net
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:16 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
>
> I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures they sent show
> the cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case painted grey. I
> am not very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this is typical
> and would the paint not being burned off mean it is very low time?
>
> Rodney Hall
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:08:18 PM PST US
> From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
> Jack,
>
>
> As others have said, the cross brace contributes little strength in that
> area, as long as it is glued well to the floorbard and firewall plywood.
> Just cut it to get it out of the way and give yourself room for the fitting
> and its mounting bolts.
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:05 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
>
> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of
> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that.
> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> Jack Textor
>
> 29 SW 58th Drive
>
> Des Moines, IA 50312
>
> www.textors.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:10:27 PM PST US
> From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
>
> I wasn't sure if the paint would burn off or not. It is supposed to have a
> bout 200 hours on it but I haven't seen the logbooks yet.
>
> ---- Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
> You can=99t tell much from paint.=C2- Mycrankcase is black and my c
> ylinders are grey but the whole thing I rebuilt alittle over 200 hours ago.
> =C2- If the pain has burned off, something hasoverheated.
> =C2-
> What kind of engine is it, and how muchtime does it have on it?
> =C2-
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP=C2- =9Cicarus Plummet=9D
> Raleigh, NC
> =C2-
> From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of r.r.hall@cox.net
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 20106:16 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new orrebuilt engines come painted?
> =C2-
> I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures theysent show t
> he cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case paintedgrey. I am
> not very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this istypical and
> would the paint not being burned off mean it is very low time?
> Rodney Hall <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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> ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:45:54 PM PST US
> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
> All good thoughts, thanks all!
>
> Jack
>
> DSM
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:05 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
>
> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple of
> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with that.
> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> Jack Textor
>
> 29 SW 58th Drive
>
> Des Moines, IA 50312
>
> www.textors.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:12:18 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Soon will be building
> From: "Kelly Klaus" <kklaus1@austin.rr.com>
>
>
> Hey all,
> I would like to wish everyone here a very Merry Christmas!
>
> Today I finished building my 2nd 8' work table, and awaiting my spruce from ACS.
>
> Will update when it gets in.
>
> Cheers!
>
> --------
> Kelly Klaus
>
> do not archive.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323876#323876
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
Call me ignorant, but why would anyone want to reflect the heat from the cylinders.
That would mean sending the heat back to the cylinders. Why would anyone
want to do that?
(I'm guessing that I've misunderstood what you were saying)
Bill C.
Chuck wrote:
"Incidentally, it would have been better had the push rod tubes been painted white
to reflect some of the heat from the cylinders."
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Jim, I'm in Lexington, VA - other side of the state but about 3 hours up
I-64. I'm almost done on my project but you're welcome to come visit any
time. Might be better once the snow melts and we can get down to the hangar
where the fuselage is right now but let me know.
Matt Paxton
_woodflier@aol.com_ (mailto:woodflier@aol.com)
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Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:26 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to list
I'm new to the list and while I've been an A and P for 20+ years, I have
never built my own plane nor am I a pilot (yet). Are there any builders in
the Norfolk, Virginia area?
Fr. Jim Lingenfelter
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The ironing is at 250 the new iron wouldn't go hi enough,had to got to the thrift
store for an old one.I drilled in a 5/16 hole in the bow and put in a 1/4"
T nut fastened with 3 #4 stainless 1/2" screws.Works great.Took all of 1/2 an
hour to fab the stands and it beats doing it any other way.Dave
--------
Covering Piet
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
Bill,
It's a technique used on the Corvair conversions to mitigate the heating of
the oil that is returning to the crankcase from the cylinder heads via the
pushrod tubes. The tubes get plenty warm underneath the heads, especially
being so close to the exhaust stacks. Considering the Corvair already needs
an oil cooler, it certainly can't hurt.
You could do it on a small Continental, but it's not needed. A more "spread
out" design and plenty of cooling capacity when properly baffled makes
it unnecessary.
Ryan
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Call me ignorant, but why would anyone want to reflect the heat from the
> cylinders. That would mean sending the heat back to the cylinders. Why would
> anyone want to do that?
> (I'm guessing that I've misunderstood what you were saying)
>
> Bill C.
>
> Chuck wrote:
>
> "Incidentally, it would have been better had the push rod tubes been
> painted white to reflect some of the heat from the cylinders."
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323896#323896
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress Pics |
Tlhanks, This will go in MY archives. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 11:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress Pics
>
> The ironing is at 250 the new iron wouldn't go hi enough,had to got to the
> thrift store for an old one.I drilled in a 5/16 hole in the bow and put in
> a 1/4" T nut fastened with 3 #4 stainless 1/2" screws.Works great.Took all
> of 1/2 an hour to fab the stands and it beats doing it any other way.Dave
>
> --------
> Covering Piet
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323900#323900
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 12/19/10 |
Chester has me beat. I'm not quite that old. If I get to Brodhead this
year I'll tell then. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chester Peek" <rbaron18@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 12/19/10
>
> Age comment. I'm 90 and working on my Piet this morning. Chet peek Norman
> ok
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 20, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server
> <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> wrote:
>
>> *
>>
>> =================================================
>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>> =================================================
>>
>> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>
>> HTML Version:
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-12-19&Archive=Pietenpol
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
>> ---
>> Total Messages Posted Sun 12/19/10: 22
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Today's Message Index:
>> ----------------------
>>
>> 1. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: Please report in (Charles Campbell)
>> 2. 12:07 PM - Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
>> 3. 01:35 PM - New to list (jimisown@aol.com)
>> 4. 01:55 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Charles Campbell)
>> 5. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza
>> motivational speach (Jim Boyer)
>> 6. 02:10 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jim Boyer)
>> 7. 02:12 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Ryan Mueller)
>> 8. 02:26 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
>> 9. 02:27 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Rick Holland)
>> 10. 02:29 PM - Re: New to list (Jerry Dotson)
>> 11. 03:12 PM - Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza
>> motivational speach (kevinpurtee)
>> 12. 03:13 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Charles Campbell)
>> 13. 03:21 PM - Happy and Blessed Holidays to all you Piet People
>> (kevinpurtee)
>> 14. 03:31 PM - Progress Pics (Dangerous Dave)
>> 15. 04:00 PM - Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? ()
>> 16. 04:22 PM - Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one! (airlion)
>> 17. 04:50 PM - Re: New to list (Jack Phillips)
>> 18. 05:00 PM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Jack
>> Phillips)
>> 19. 05:08 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack Phillips)
>> 20. 05:10 PM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? ()
>> 21. 05:45 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
>> 22. 07:12 PM - Re: Soon will be building (Kelly Klaus)
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:05:24 AM PST US
>> From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Please report in
>>
>> By just hanging in there!!!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Clif Dawson
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Please report in
>>
>>
>> And just how did you get to be so old O ancient and
>> venerable one? :-)
>>
>> Clif
>>
>> "Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: If
>> you are alive, it isn't."
>> ~ Richard Bach
>> From: Charles Campbell
>>
>>
>> Dan and the rest, you're all just a bunch of children. I have a son
>> and daughter (twins) who are older than any of you!
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:07:41 PM PST US
>> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
>> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
>> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
>> of
>> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
>> that.
>> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>> Thanks,
>> Jack
>>
>> Jack Textor
>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>> www.textors.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:35:12 PM PST US
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to list
>> From: jimisown@aol.com
>>
>>
>> I'm new to the list and while I've been an A and P for 20+ years, I have
>> n
>> ever built my own plane nor am I a pilot (yet). Are there any builders in
>> t
>> he Norfolk, Virginia area?
>>
>> Fr. Jim Lingenfelter
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:55:55 PM PST US
>> From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>> Lower motor mount strapsI'm using the motor mounts designed for the GN
>> 1. I'll send you copies of my drawings if you want them. I felt the
>> same way you do about having to cut the cross pieces. My mounts are
>> completely outside the wood structure. Chuck
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jack
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:04 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>>
>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings
>> for the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application
>> well. It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a
>> couple of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real
>> comfortable with that. Could others share how they dealt with this part
>> of building?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> Jack Textor
>>
>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>>
>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>>
>> www.textors.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:08:14 PM PST US
>> From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza
>> motivational
>> speach
>>
>>
>> Kevin,
>> Congratulations on being qualified in the new helicopter. I have been
>> wondering
>> how you were doing since Arlene and I saw you at Copperstate.
>> Merry Christmas and Cheers,
>> Jim
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:22:08 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza
>> motivational
>> speach
>>
>>
>> Several years ago a company was offering fuselage kits and they were
>> lovely.
>>
>> I looked at the photos and noted that, while beautiful, there were none
>> of my sweat
>> stains or blood stains anywhere on the fuselage.
>>
>> Just wouldn't have been the same. Nothing like building your own
>> airplane, ground
>> up, from a roll of blueprints.
>>
>> Enjoy buildapalooza, John, and all you others.
>>
>> (John: officially qual'd in the new machine. Frightening! Back to AZ
>> for instructor
>> school in January. Doubly frightening!)
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> --------
>> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>> NX899KP
>> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323793#323793
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:10:59 PM PST US
>> From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>>
>> Hi Jack,
>> I blocked in the area just above the lower longeron and moved the lower
>> motor mounts
>> up one inch so I would not have to cut the cross brace. Worked fine.
>> Cheers,
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:04:47 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
>> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
>> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
>> of
>> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
>> that.
>> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>> Thanks,
>> Jack
>>
>> Jack Textor
>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>> www.textors.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:12:51 PM PST US
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>> From: "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23@gmail.com>
>>
>> Waiting for a flight, no plans in front of me so goin
>> g from memory, but I'm pretty sure cutting a slot in
>> the cross piece is just how you have to do it. That's
>> how it is on ours, no issues. If I recall that's h
>> ow most Piets are...
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> Ryan Mueller
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> Lower motor mount straps
>>
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 8
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:26:07 PM PST US
>> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>> Charles good thought! I have a set and will check it out.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:05 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>>
>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
>> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
>> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
>> of
>> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
>> that.
>> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> Jack Textor
>>
>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>>
>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>>
>> www.textors.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 9
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:27:38 PM PST US
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>> From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
>>
>> With that big slab of 1/4" floor plywood glued to the lower longerons the
>> bottom cross brace does not need to contact the longerons, just the floor
>> and firewall.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings
>>> for
>>> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application
>>> well.
>>> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
>>> of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable
>>> with
>>> that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> Jack Textor
>>>
>>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>>>
>>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>>>
>>> www.textors.com
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rick Holland
>> Castle Rock, Colorado
>>
>> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 10
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:29:26 PM PST US
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to list
>> From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
>>
>>
>> Let me be the first to welcome you to the Pietenpol list. You will find a
>> great
>> bunch of builders and flyers here. Building can be very rewarding. Lots
>> of experience
>> here too. We range in age from 13 to somewhere around 80.
>>
>> --------
>> Jerry Dotson
>> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
>> Baker, FL 32531
>>
>> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
>> wing, tailfeathers done
>> using Lycoming O-235
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323848#323848
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 11
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:12:43 PM PST US
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza
>> motivational
>> speach
>> From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>>
>>
>> "Qualified" is optimistic, Jim, but we'll figure it out.
>>
>> Got 4 wing ribs done for the corby while in AZ. Will try for another 4-6
>> on this
>> next trip (Jan - Apr). Your taxpayer dollars at work:).
>>
>> I've got 3 weeks to fly the plane before I head back out. It's cold
>> enough (with
>> all due respect to the cold-hardened people of the north) that I'll go
>> light
>> on that. Gives an opportunity to do some maintenance.
>>
>> Happy holidays to you and your family, Jim.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> --------
>> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>> NX899KP
>> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323853#323853
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 12
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:13:54 PM PST US
>> From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>>
>> Wish I had thought of that!!! Chuck
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Boyer" <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Jack,
>>> I blocked in the area just above the lower longeron and moved the lower
>>> motor mounts up one inch so I would not have to cut the cross brace.
>>> Worked fine.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:04:47 PM
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>>
>>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings
>>> for
>>> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application
>>> well.
>>> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
>>> of
>>> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
>>> that.
>>> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> Jack Textor
>>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>>> www.textors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 13
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:21:02 PM PST US
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Happy and Blessed Holidays to all you Piet
>> People
>> From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>>
>>
>> Pretty sure the thread was coming so I thought I'd start it. The subject
>> says
>> it all. You guys are great.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> --------
>> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>> NX899KP
>> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323855#323855
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 14
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:31:35 PM PST US
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress Pics
>> From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
>>
>>
>> Howdy,Covering the wings.Stewart Systems working great!dave
>>
>> --------
>> Covering Piet
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323856#323856
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_19_15_54_41_476_835.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_19_15_54_21_598_184.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_19_10_54_14_220_539.jpg
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 15
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 04:00:20 PM PST US
>> From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>>
>>
>> I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures they sent
>> show the
>> cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case painted grey. I am
>> not
>> very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this is typical and
>> would the
>> paint not being burned off mean it is very low time?
>> Rodney Hall
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 16
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 04:22:16 PM PST US
>> From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one!
>>
>> I had to share this with everyone. Merry christmas ya'll. Cheers,
>> Gardiner
>>
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>> From: Susan G. Mason <susangmason@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 5:12:15 PM
>> Subject: Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one!
>>
>>
>> Saw this and thought of all of us dog lovers!!!
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Hope springs eternal - even for the dogs! Hope you can open this.
>>
>> Merry Christmas!!!
>>
>>> Click on the dog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> 02:34:00
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 17
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 04:50:34 PM PST US
>> From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New to list
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>>
>> I'm in Raleigh, NC - not too far away. My Pietenpol is based at Smith
>> Mountain Lake, VA (W91). Chuck Borsuk is also in the Raleigh area.
>>
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>>
>> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>>
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> jimisown@aol.com
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:26 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to list
>>
>>
>> I'm new to the list and while I've been an A and P for 20+ years, I have
>> never built my own plane nor am I a pilot (yet). Are there any builders
>> in
>> the Norfolk, Virginia area?
>>
>> Fr. Jim Lingenfelter
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 18
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:00:13 PM PST US
>> From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>>
>> You can't tell much from paint. My crankcase is black and my cylinders
>> are
>> grey but the whole thing I rebuilt a little over 200 hours ago. If the
>> pain
>> has burned off, something has overheated.
>>
>>
>> What kind of engine is it, and how much time does it have on it?
>>
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>>
>> NX899JP "icarus Plummet"
>>
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> r.r.hall@cox.net
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>>
>>
>> I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures they sent
>> show
>> the cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case painted grey.
>> I
>> am not very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this is typical
>> and would the paint not being burned off mean it is very low time?
>>
>> Rodney Hall
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 19
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:08:18 PM PST US
>> From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>> Jack,
>>
>>
>> As others have said, the cross brace contributes little strength in that
>> area, as long as it is glued well to the floorbard and firewall plywood.
>> Just cut it to get it out of the way and give yourself room for the
>> fitting
>> and its mounting bolts.
>>
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>>
>> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>>
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:05 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>>
>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
>> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
>> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
>> of
>> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
>> that.
>> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> Jack Textor
>>
>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>>
>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>>
>> www.textors.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 20
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:10:27 PM PST US
>> From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>>
>>
>> I wasn't sure if the paint would burn off or not. It is supposed to have
>> a
>> bout 200 hours on it but I haven't seen the logbooks yet.
>>
>> ---- Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>> You can=99t tell much from paint.=C2- Mycrankcase is black and my c
>> ylinders are grey but the whole thing I rebuilt alittle over 200 hours
>> ago.
>> =C2- If the pain has burned off, something hasoverheated.
>> =C2-
>> What kind of engine is it, and how muchtime does it have on it?
>> =C2-
>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP=C2- =9Cicarus Plummet=9D
>> Raleigh, NC
>> =C2-
>> From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-
>> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of r.r.hall@cox.net
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 20106:16 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new orrebuilt engines come painted?
>> =C2-
>> I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures theysent show
>> t
>> he cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case paintedgrey. I
>> am
>> not very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this istypical and
>> would the paint not being burned off mean it is very low time?
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>> ________________________________ Message 21
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:45:54 PM PST US
>> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>> All good thoughts, thanks all!
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> DSM
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:05 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>>
>>
>> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
>> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
>> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
>> of
>> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
>> that.
>> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> Jack Textor
>>
>> 29 SW 58th Drive
>>
>> Des Moines, IA 50312
>>
>> www.textors.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 22
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:12:18 PM PST US
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Soon will be building
>> From: "Kelly Klaus" <kklaus1@austin.rr.com>
>>
>>
>> Hey all,
>> I would like to wish everyone here a very Merry Christmas!
>>
>> Today I finished building my 2nd 8' work table, and awaiting my spruce
>> from ACS.
>>
>> Will update when it gets in.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> --------
>> Kelly Klaus
>>
>> do not archive.
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323876#323876
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
I guess what I meant was it reflects heat away from the pushrods and
associated parts. William Wynne recommends coating the pushrod tubes with
white paint -- I've forgotten why but he's the engine guru.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Call me ignorant, but why would anyone want to reflect the heat from the
> cylinders. That would mean sending the heat back to the cylinders. Why
> would anyone want to do that?
> (I'm guessing that I've misunderstood what you were saying)
>
> Bill C.
>
> Chuck wrote:
>
> "Incidentally, it would have been better had the push rod tubes been
> painted white to reflect some of the heat from the cylinders."
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323896#323896
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
Bill, Ryan said it better that I did. I don't know from small Continentals
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Call me ignorant, but why would anyone want to reflect the heat from the
> cylinders. That would mean sending the heat back to the cylinders. Why
> would anyone want to do that?
> (I'm guessing that I've misunderstood what you were saying)
>
> Bill C.
>
> Chuck wrote:
>
> "Incidentally, it would have been better had the push rod tubes been
> painted white to reflect some of the heat from the cylinders."
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323896#323896
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
Okay, I get it. The reflecting you're referring to is AWAY from the pushrod tubes,
not necessarily back at the cylinders (even though that's where some of it
will go). So, paint the pushrod tubes white IF you're using a Corvair.
I know I've read about oil temperature issues with some Corvair installations,
so probably every little bit should help. Never heard of this idea for Continentals,
though. Like Ryan says, the configurations are different, with more clearance
on the Continentals.
Bill C.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323922#323922
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| Subject: | Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational |
speach
Kevin, sounds like you are making good progress on the Corby wind ribs. Having
to make a new jig for each pair of ribs sounds like a tedious job.
Good luck on the helicopter work and have a very good Christmas and New Years.
Jim
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:10:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
speach
"Qualified" is optimistic, Jim, but we'll figure it out.
Got 4 wing ribs done for the corby while in AZ. Will try for another 4-6 on this
next trip (Jan - Apr). Your taxpayer dollars at work:).
I've got 3 weeks to fly the plane before I head back out. It's cold enough (with
all due respect to the cold-hardened people of the north) that I'll go light
on that. Gives an opportunity to do some maintenance.
Happy holidays to you and your family, Jim.
Kevin
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
Not necessary on real aircraft engines. Corvairs require all the help they
can get. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
<cncampbell@windstream.net>
I guess what I meant was it reflects heat away from the pushrods and
associated parts. William Wynne recommends coating the pushrod tubes with
white paint -- I've forgotten why but he's the engine guru.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Call me ignorant, but why would anyone want to reflect the heat from the
> cylinders. That would mean sending the heat back to the cylinders. Why
> would anyone want to do that?
> (I'm guessing that I've misunderstood what you were saying)
>
> Bill C.
>
> Chuck wrote:
>
> "Incidentally, it would have been better had the push rod tubes been
> painted white to reflect some of the heat from the cylinders."
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323896#323896
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Pietenpols flying in or near =?UTF-8?Q?CT=3F? |
I'm new to the list, a lurker really. I'm looking at starting a
Pietenpol with the long fuselage, 3 part wing, C65 engine (or VW w/
redrive), more conventional J3 style gear, and a few more modern
components.
I'm moving to CT in 2 weeks to live for the next 2-3 years. Are there
any flying Piet's in that area? Anyone mind me coming by to gawk at
their plane and sit in it to see how it feels?
-Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
Just can't resist, can you Jack? :)
Do not archive.
Kip Gardner (Corvair builder)
On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>
> Not necessary on real aircraft engines. Corvairs require all the help they
> can get. :)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> Campbell
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:54 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
> <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>
> I guess what I meant was it reflects heat away from the pushrods and
> associated parts. William Wynne recommends coating the pushrod tubes with
> white paint -- I've forgotten why but he's the engine guru.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:32 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
>
>> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>>
>> Call me ignorant, but why would anyone want to reflect the heat from the
>> cylinders. That would mean sending the heat back to the cylinders. Why
>> would anyone want to do that?
>> (I'm guessing that I've misunderstood what you were saying)
>>
>> Bill C.
>>
>> Chuck wrote:
>>
>> "Incidentally, it would have been better had the push rod tubes been
>> painted white to reflect some of the heat from the cylinders."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323896#323896
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
SNAP!
"Crap!"
:)
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 12/19/10 |
You're my hero, Chet!
Love your books.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
He just never flew behine a good engine
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Thanks, Tom!!
Gary Boothe
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 6:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Duxford England
Just in case there might be one or two of you on the list that like to watch
airplanes in flight - here is a link to the annual Duxford Airshow.
Sixteen, count them, 16 Spitfires in the air at the same time.
Stinemetze
http://www.airshows.org.uk/2010/airshows/duxford-battle-of-britain-airshow-r
eview.html
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
I try. I really do!
I understand the FAA is considering changing their ruling on the 2"
"Experimental" placard required on all homebuilts without the NX
registration. They have decided that anything powered by a Corvair needs
the word "EXPERIMENTAL" in 12" letters on both sides of the cockpit
Jack
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth
Gardner
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
<kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
Just can't resist, can you Jack? :)
Do not archive.
Kip Gardner (Corvair builder)
On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> Not necessary on real aircraft engines. Corvairs require all the help
they
> can get. :)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> Campbell
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:54 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
> <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>
> I guess what I meant was it reflects heat away from the pushrods and
> associated parts. William Wynne recommends coating the pushrod tubes with
> white paint -- I've forgotten why but he's the engine guru.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:32 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
>
>> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>>
>> Call me ignorant, but why would anyone want to reflect the heat from the
>> cylinders. That would mean sending the heat back to the cylinders. Why
>> would anyone want to do that?
>> (I'm guessing that I've misunderstood what you were saying)
>>
>> Bill C.
>>
>> Chuck wrote:
>>
>> "Incidentally, it would have been better had the push rod tubes been
>> painted white to reflect some of the heat from the cylinders."
>>
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323896#323896
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| Subject: | Re: Soon will be building |
Dan, you could always build a second Piet like Dick N. did. The best of both
worlds, one to fly and another to build.
rick
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:32 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Hi Kelly,
>
> Even though I am done, I envy you in a lot of ways. Countless enjoyable
> hours of designing and building in front of you. Enjoy every minute of it
> rather than rush to get something done. I used my project to learn a great
> deal on a variety of subjects.
>
> Wishing all on this list a very blessed Christmas and Happy New Year ahead.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Soon will be building |
Dan, you could always build a second Piet like Dick N. did. The best of both
worlds, one to fly and another to build.
rick
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:32 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Hi Kelly,
>
> Even though I am done, I envy you in a lot of ways. Countless enjoyable
> hours of designing and building in front of you. Enjoy every minute of it
> rather than rush to get something done. I used my project to learn a great
> deal on a variety of subjects.
>
> Wishing all on this list a very blessed Christmas and Happy New Year ahead.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? |
Glad to hear they deleted "EXTRA-" in front of EXPERIMENTAL...that's
progress...
Gary Boothe
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
I try. I really do!
I understand the FAA is considering changing their ruling on the 2"
"Experimental" placard required on all homebuilts without the NX
registration. They have decided that anything powered by a Corvair needs
the word "EXPERIMENTAL" in 12" letters on both sides of the cockpit
Jack
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth
Gardner
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
<kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
Just can't resist, can you Jack? :)
Do not archive.
Kip Gardner (Corvair builder)
On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> Not necessary on real aircraft engines. Corvairs require all the help
they
> can get. :)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> Campbell
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:54 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
> <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>
> I guess what I meant was it reflects heat away from the pushrods and
> associated parts. William Wynne recommends coating the pushrod tubes with
> white paint -- I've forgotten why but he's the engine guru.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:32 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
>
>
>> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>>
>> Call me ignorant, but why would anyone want to reflect the heat from the
>> cylinders. That would mean sending the heat back to the cylinders. Why
>> would anyone want to do that?
>> (I'm guessing that I've misunderstood what you were saying)
>>
>> Bill C.
>>
>> Chuck wrote:
>>
>> "Incidentally, it would have been better had the push rod tubes been
>> painted white to reflect some of the heat from the cylinders."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323896#323896
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| Subject: | Re: Soon will be building |
Dan, you could always build a second Piet like Dick N. did. The best of both
worlds, one to fly and another to build.
rick
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:32 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Hi Kelly,
>
> Even though I am done, I envy you in a lot of ways. Countless enjoyable
> hours of designing and building in front of you. Enjoy every minute of it
> rather than rush to get something done. I used my project to learn a great
> deal on a variety of subjects.
>
> Wishing all on this list a very blessed Christmas and Happy New Year ahead.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Pietenpols flying in or near CT? |
Congratulations Jeff, and welcome to the wonderful world of Pietenpols. As
with every new Pietenpol builder, I strongly urge you to acquire the four
Tony Bingelis books from EAA. There you will find the answers to most of
your questions on how to build an airplane. The rest can be answered here.
Good luck. I like your engine choice (the Continental, not the VW. Car
engines should never get more than about 20" above the road.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jeff@ereksonfamily.org
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 3:27 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpols flying in or near CT?
I'm new to the list, a lurker really. I'm looking at starting a
Pietenpol with the long fuselage, 3 part wing, C65 engine (or VW w/
redrive), more conventional J3 style gear, and a few more modern
components.
I'm moving to CT in 2 weeks to live for the next 2-3 years. Are there
any flying Piet's in that area? Anyone mind me coming by to gawk at
their plane and sit in it to see how it feels?
-Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Age thread, Chet Peek |
Hi Chet,
Absolutely loved your book, The Pietenpol Story. https://www.aircraftspruc
e.com/catalog/bvpages/pietenpolStory.php Should be required reading for
all on this list. We need to know the history behind the man and the airpla
ne. It makes the journey much more meaningful and enjoyable. Keep at it, an
d I look forward to seeing you and your wife at Brodhead 2011.
With utmost respect.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chester Peek <rbaron18@aol.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 20, 2010 9:01 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 12/19/10
Age comment. I'm 90 and working on my Piet this morning. Chet peek Norman o
k
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1. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: Please report in (Charles Campbell)
2. 12:07 PM - Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
3. 01:35 PM - New to list (jimisown@aol.com)
4. 01:55 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Charles Campbell)
5. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivati
onal
peach (Jim Boyer)
6. 02:10 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jim Boyer)
7. 02:12 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Ryan Mueller)
8. 02:26 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
9. 02:27 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Rick Holland)
10. 02:29 PM - Re: New to list (Jerry Dotson)
11. 03:12 PM - Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza motivational
peach (kevinpurtee)
12. 03:13 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Charles Campbell)
13. 03:21 PM - Happy and Blessed Holidays to all you Piet People
kevinpurtee)
14. 03:31 PM - Progress Pics (Dangerous Dave)
15. 04:00 PM - Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? ()
16. 04:22 PM - Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one! (airlion)
17. 04:50 PM - Re: New to list (Jack Phillips)
18. 05:00 PM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? (Jack Phill
ips)
19. 05:08 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack Phillips)
20. 05:10 PM - Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted? ()
21. 05:45 PM - Re: Lower motor mount straps (Jack)
22. 07:12 PM - Re: Soon will be building (Kelly Klaus)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________
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Time: 05:05:24 AM PST US
From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Please report in
By just hanging in there!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Clif Dawson
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Please report in
And just how did you get to be so old O ancient and
venerable one? :-)
Clif
"Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: If
you are alive, it isn't."
~ Richard Bach
From: Charles Campbell
Dan and the rest, you're all just a bunch of children. I have a son
and daughter (twins) who are older than any of you!
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________
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Time: 12:07:41 PM PST US
From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple o
f
inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with tha
t.
Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________
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Time: 01:35:12 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to list
From: jimisown@aol.com
I'm new to the list and while I've been an A and P for 20+ years, I have n
ever built my own plane nor am I a pilot (yet). Are there any builders in
t
he Norfolk, Virginia area?
Fr. Jim Lingenfelter
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________
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Time: 01:55:55 PM PST US
From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
Lower motor mount strapsI'm using the motor mounts designed for the GN
1. I'll send you copies of my drawings if you want them. I felt the
same way you do about having to cut the cross pieces. My mounts are
completely outside the wood structure. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:04 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings
for the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application
well. It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a
couple of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real
comfortable with that. Could others share how they dealt with this part
of building?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________
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Time: 02:08:14 PM PST US
From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza
otivational
speach
Kevin,
Congratulations on being qualified in the new helicopter. I have been
ondering
how you were doing since Arlene and I saw you at Copperstate.
Merry Christmas and Cheers,
Jim
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:22:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza
otivational
speach
Several years ago a company was offering fuselage kits and they were lovel
y.
I looked at the photos and noted that, while beautiful, there were none of
my
weat
stains or blood stains anywhere on the fuselage.
Just wouldn't have been the same. Nothing like building your own airplane
,
round
up, from a roll of blueprints.
Enjoy buildapalooza, John, and all you others.
(John: officially qual'd in the new machine. Frightening! Back to AZ for
nstructor
school in January. Doubly frightening!)
Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Time: 02:10:59 PM PST US
From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
Hi Jack,
I blocked in the area just above the lower longeron and moved the lower mo
tor
ounts
up one inch so I would not have to cut the cross brace. Worked fine.
Cheers,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:04:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple o
f
inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with tha
t.
Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________
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Time: 02:12:51 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
From: "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Waiting for a flight, no plans in front of me so goin
g from memory, but I'm pretty sure cutting a slot in
the cross piece is just how you have to do it. That's
how it is on ours, no issues. If I recall that's h
ow most Piets are...
Ryan
Ryan Mueller
-----Original Message-----
From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
Lower motor mount straps
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________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________
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Time: 02:26:07 PM PST US
From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
Charles good thought! I have a set and will check it out.
Thanks
Jack
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple o
f
inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with tha
t.
Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________
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Time: 02:27:38 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
With that big slab of 1/4" floor plywood glued to the lower longerons the
bottom cross brace does not need to contact the longerons, just the floor
and firewall.
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
> of inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
> that. Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> Jack Textor
>
> 29 SW 58th Drive
>
> Des Moines, IA 50312
>
> www.textors.com
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________
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Time: 02:29:26 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to list
From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
Let me be the first to welcome you to the Pietenpol list. You will find a
reat
bunch of builders and flyers here. Building can be very rewarding. Lots of
xperience
here too. We range in age from 13 to somewhere around 80.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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Time: 03:12:43 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 8 hours and counting down buildapalooza
otivational
speach
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
"Qualified" is optimistic, Jim, but we'll figure it out.
Got 4 wing ribs done for the corby while in AZ. Will try for another 4-6
on
his
next trip (Jan - Apr). Your taxpayer dollars at work:).
I've got 3 weeks to fly the plane before I head back out. It's cold enoug
h
with
all due respect to the cold-hardened people of the north) that I'll go lig
ht
on that. Gives an opportunity to do some maintenance.
Happy holidays to you and your family, Jim.
Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323853#323853
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Time: 03:13:54 PM PST US
From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
Wish I had thought of that!!! Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Boyer" <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
> Hi Jack,
> I blocked in the area just above the lower longeron and moved the lower
> motor mounts up one inch so I would not have to cut the cross brace.
> Worked fine.
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:04:47 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
>
> The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
> the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
> It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple
> of
> inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with
> that.
> Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
> Jack Textor
> 29 SW 58th Drive
> Des Moines, IA 50312
> www.textors.com
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________
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Time: 03:21:02 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Happy and Blessed Holidays to all you Piet People
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Pretty sure the thread was coming so I thought I'd start it. The subject
says
it all. You guys are great.
Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323855#323855
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Time: 03:31:35 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress Pics
From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
Howdy,Covering the wings.Stewart Systems working great!dave
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Covering Piet
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Time: 04:00:20 PM PST US
From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures they sent show
the
cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case painted grey. I am
not
very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this is typical and wou
ld
he
paint not being burned off mean it is very low time?
Rodney Hall
________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________
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Time: 04:22:16 PM PST US
From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one!
I had to share this with everyone. Merry christmas ya'll. Cheers, Gardiner
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Susan G. Mason <susangmason@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 5:12:15 PM
Subject: Fw: Merry Christmas - had to share this one!
Saw this and thought of all of us dog lovers!!!
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Hope springs eternal - even for the dogs! Hope you can open this.
Merry Christmas!!!
> Click on the dog
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Time: 04:50:34 PM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New to list
Hi Jim,
I'm in Raleigh, NC - not too far away. My Pietenpol is based at Smith
Mountain Lake, VA (W91). Chuck Borsuk is also in the Raleigh area.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:26 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to list
I'm new to the list and while I've been an A and P for 20+ years, I have
never built my own plane nor am I a pilot (yet). Are there any builders in
the Norfolk, Virginia area?
Fr. Jim Lingenfelter
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Time: 05:00:13 PM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
You can't tell much from paint. My crankcase is black and my cylinders ar
e
grey but the whole thing I rebuilt a little over 200 hours ago. If the pa
in
has burned off, something has overheated.
What kind of engine is it, and how much time does it have on it?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:16 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures they sent show
the cylinders and pushrod tubes painted black and the case painted grey. I
am not very familiar with new engines so was wondering if this is typical
and would the paint not being burned off mean it is very low time?
Rodney Hall
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Time: 05:08:18 PM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
Jack,
As others have said, the cross brace contributes little strength in that
area, as long as it is glued well to the floorbard and firewall plywood.
Just cut it to get it out of the way and give yourself room for the fittin
g
and its mounting bolts.
Good luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple o
f
inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with tha
t.
Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
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Time: 05:10:27 PM PST US
From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
I wasn't sure if the paint would burn off or not. It is supposed to have a
bout 200 hours on it but I haven't seen the logbooks yet.
---- Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
You can=99t tell much from paint.=C2- Mycrankcase is black and my c
ylinders are grey but the whole thing I rebuilt alittle over 200 hours ago
.
=C2- If the pain has burned off, something hasoverheated.
=C2-
What kind of engine is it, and how muchtime does it have on it?
=C2-
Jack Phillips
NX899JP=C2- =9Cicarus Plummet=9D
Raleigh, NC
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=C2-
I have someone trying to sell me an engine but the pictures theysent show
t
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m
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From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
All good thoughts, thanks all!
Jack
DSM
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Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lower motor mount straps
The plans and supplemental plans show 2 different full sized drawings for
the lower motor mount straps. Neither seems to fit the application well.
It also appears to mount the inside straps you need to cut away a couple o
f
inches of the lower crosspiece on each end. Not real comfortable with tha
t.
Could others share how they dealt with this part of building?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
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Time: 07:12:18 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Soon will be building
From: "Kelly Klaus" <kklaus1@austin.rr.com>
Hey all,
I would like to wish everyone here a very Merry Christmas!
Today I finished building my 2nd 8' work table, and awaiting my spruce fro
m
CS.
Will update when it gets in.
Cheers!
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Hi Jeff, Welcome to this list.
Glenn Thomas, a Brodhead regular, is from Storrs, CT. He owns a flying Piet
. Try to contact him via glennthomas@flyingwood.com . I am not sure he moni
tors this list all the time.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Sent: Mon, Dec 20, 2010 2:32 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpols flying in or near CT?
I'm new to the list, a lurker really. I'm looking at starting a
ietenpol with the long fuselage, 3 part wing, C65 engine (or VW w/
edrive), more conventional J3 style gear, and a few more modern
omponents.
I'm moving to CT in 2 weeks to live for the next 2-3 years. Are there
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heir plane and sit in it to see how it feels?
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The field Axel!!, Its the safest place!!!
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Sent: Mon, Dec 20, 2010 2:39 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Do new or rebuilt engines come painted?
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"Crap!"
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Nice work Dave. How are you going to get your bottom fabric to contact the
undercambered ribs, just by rib lacing? Great wing stand, just ran a single
bolt through a hole in the tip, wish I thought of that. Did you put a blind
nut on the inside of the wing tip?
rick
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Dangerous Dave <dsornbor@aol.com> wrote:
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> Howdy,Covering the wings.Stewart Systems working great!dave
>
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Chester when I grow up I want to be just like you (I am only 60). Keep up
the good work. I am just finishing another one your excellent books "The
First Cub" and have read "The Pietenpol Story" three times now.
Merry Christmas
rick
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Chester Peek <rbaron18@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Age comment. I'm 90 and working on my Piet this morning. Chet peek Norman
> ok
>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress Pics |
Looks like beautiful workmanship. The pictures would be a lot easier to look at
if you re-sized them to about 700 pixels wide. A free program like JPeg Resizer
will do that for you.
Also, the Stewart System doesn't require anti-chafe tape on the rib edges and other
areas prone to chafe the fabric or require inter-rib lacing? I'm used to
Poly Fiber that requires those extra steps. Maybe I need to switch.
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Al Rice
Skybolt 260
RV-9A
Helping with my grandson's Piet
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Interrib bracing and tape on top of ribs.almost spaced out the bracing but it wasn't
from being high on fumes.
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Hey Rick
I am working on a third one now. This one is a Sky Scout. Tail feathers
and wing ribs done done, fuselage is in the jig.
Thought I'd correct the record.
Dick N.
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From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Soon will be building
Dan, you could always build a second Piet like Dick N. did. The best
of both worlds, one to fly and another to build.
rick
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:32 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
Hi Kelly,
Even though I am done, I envy you in a lot of ways. Countless
enjoyable hours of designing and building in front of you. Enjoy every
minute of it rather than rush to get something done. I used my project
to learn a great deal on a variety of subjects.
Wishing all on this list a very blessed Christmas and Happy New Year
ahead.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Hey, it ain't braggin' if you can do it. And you done it!!
Man, I am REALLY looking forward to seeing that Sky Scout. I loved
your two 'Campers.
>Hey Rick
>I am working on a third one now. This one is a Sky Scout. Tail
>feathers and wing ribs done done, fuselage is in the jig.
>Thought I'd correct the record.
>Dick N.
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And it'll be PROUDLY displayed...Dammit!
>
>I try. I really do!
>
>I understand the FAA is considering changing their ruling on the 2"
>"Experimental" placard required on all homebuilts without the NX
>registration. They have decided that anything powered by a Corvair needs
>the word "EXPERIMENTAL" in 12" letters on both sides of the cockpit
>
>Jack
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Happy to hear you are at work on another Pietenpol. Just curious, what
happened to the Volmer....or is she still coming along as well?
Ryan
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
> Hey Rick
> I am working on a third one now. This one is a Sky Scout. Tail feathers
> and wing ribs done done, fuselage is in the jig.
> Thought I'd correct the record.
> Dick N.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, December 20, 2010 4:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Soon will be building
>
> Dan, you could always build a second Piet like Dick N. did. The best of
> both worlds, one to fly and another to build.
>
> rick
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:32 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kelly,
>>
>> Even though I am done, I envy you in a lot of ways. Countless enjoyable
>> hours of designing and building in front of you. Enjoy every minute of it
>> rather than rush to get something done. I used my project to learn a great
>> deal on a variety of subjects.
>>
>> Wishing all on this list a very blessed Christmas and Happy New Year
>> ahead.
>>
>> Dan Helsper
>> Poplar Grove, IL.
>>
>>
>
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> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
>
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