---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/26/10: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:54 AM - Re: annealing (Jerry Dotson) 2. 05:40 AM - Re: Re: Flying Xmas Gifts from the Goddess & Others (Charles Campbell) 3. 07:33 AM - Re: annealing (skellytown flyer) 4. 08:22 AM - Re: annealing (Jerry Dotson) 5. 09:40 AM - Dec 23 (Gary Boothe) 6. 10:02 AM - Re: Dec 23 (Kip and Beth Gardner) 7. 10:35 AM - Re: Dec 23 (Jim Boyer) 8. 11:07 AM - Re: Dec 23 (Gary Boothe) 9. 11:10 AM - Re: Dec 23 (Darrel Jones) 10. 12:28 PM - Re: Dec 23 (Wayne Bressler) 11. 12:38 PM - Re: Dec 23 (Gary Boothe) 12. 12:48 PM - Re: Sweeney's Radiator (Pieti Lowell) 13. 12:51 PM - resrend of what did not get posted yesterday system problems I gusee (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 14. 01:24 PM - Re: Dec 23 (Wayne Bressler) 15. 01:26 PM - Re: resrend of what did not get posted yesterday system problems I gusee (Gary Boothe) 16. 02:02 PM - Re: resrend of what did not get posted yesterday system problems I gusee (AmsafetyC@aol.com) 17. 03:40 PM - Bigfoot airport (John Fay) 18. 04:03 PM - Re: Bigfoot airport (Ryan Mueller) 19. 04:20 PM - One wing ready for paint (Dangerous Dave) 20. 04:30 PM - Re: Dec 23 (kevinpurtee) 21. 04:31 PM - Re: Dec 23 (kevinpurtee) 22. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Dec 23 (Gary Boothe) 23. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Dec 23 (airlion) 24. 06:05 PM - vibration testing (Oscar Zuniga) 25. 06:14 PM - Re: vibration testing (Ryan Mueller) 26. 06:59 PM - Re: One wing ready for paint (Rick Holland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: annealing From: "Jerry Dotson" Dennis I did the same thing. I tried to drill a hole in a bracket I had heated and bent. I had done it outside in the wind. I reheated the part inside and backed away but kept brushing it with the flame.....slowly cooling it. Worked like a charm. do not archive -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324528#324528 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:29 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flying Xmas Gifts from the Goddess & Others Amen to that! ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 12:28 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flying Xmas Gifts from the Goddess & Others > > > Nice! We're blessed with our Goddesses! > > do not archive. > > -------- > Kevin "Axel" Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324524#324524 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: annealing From: "skellytown flyer" one product for that is called vermiculite. i's a pellet form of insulation. I have a bucket of it out in the shop now.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324546#324546 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:45 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: annealing From: "Jerry Dotson" vermiculite is available in the gardening dept. at most big box stores. You would need to dry it dusty dry. do not archive -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324550#324550 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:12 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought about putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights, but they really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking welding in high school, so I put him to work making some adjustments to my carb flange. The other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box wrench, so I taught him a few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he is finishing up the access panels for my fuel tank. Both did an outstanding job, without any needed re-work from me! We finished up the day by making one of the fuel lines. Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week.Life is good! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (23 ribs down.) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:57 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 Great story Gary, Aside from my own strange obsessions (like aviation, that is), one of my joys is helping lead a high school youth group. Great kids, one and all, several in spite of family or circumstance situations that could easily lead to poor choices & outcomes. Once again, Merry Christmas everyone. Kip Gardner On Dec 26, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > Couple of young Jedi=92s showed up last Thursday morning. I thought > about putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas > lights, but they really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been > taking welding in high school, so I put him to work making some > adjustments to my carb flange. The other didn=92t know an open-end > wrench from a box wrench, so I taught him a few things about sheet > metal. In the pic, he is finishing up the access panels for my fuel > tank. Both did an outstanding job, without any needed re-work from > me! We finished up the day by making one of the fuel lines. > > Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week=85Life is > good! > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, Running! > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (23 ribs down=85) > > > <000_2003.jpg> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:29 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 Gary its looking really good. Who are the young men helping you? They look like they both are doing good. Merry 2nd day of Christmas. Jim Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boothe" Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:36:42 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought about putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights, but they really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking welding in high school, so I put him to work making some adjustments to my carb flange. The other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box wrench, so I taught him a few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he is finishing up the access panels for my fuel tank. Both did an outstanding job, without any needed re-work from me! We finished up the day by making one of the fuel lines. Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week.Life is good! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (23 ribs down.) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:33 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 The welder is Beau Hotchkiss, a family friend, whom I brought with me to CC18. The other is his friend, Cory. Beau has good shop skills, even for 17 yr old, and is Emery Riddle bound. Gary Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 Gary its looking really good. Who are the young men helping you? They look like they both are doing good. Merry 2nd day of Christmas. Jim Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boothe" Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:36:42 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought about putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights, but they really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking welding in high school, so I put him to work making some adjustments to my carb flange. The other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box wrench, so I taught him a few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he is finishing up the access panels for my fuel tank. Both did an outstanding job, without any needed re-work from me! We finished up the day by making one of the fuel lines. Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week.Life is good! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (23 ribs down.) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:51 AM PST US From: Darrel Jones Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 On 12/26/2010 9:36 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought > about putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights, > but they really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking > welding in high school, so I put him to work making some adjustments > to my carb flange. The other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box > wrench, so I taught him a few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he > is finishing up the access panels for my fuel tank. Both did an > outstanding job, without any needed re-work from me! We finished up > the day by making one of the fuel lines. > > Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week...Life is good! > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, Running! > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (23 ribs down...) > Gary, We may have to run up to Cool to check out the progress before or after lunch Wednesday. Looking forward to seeing everyone. Darrel Jones Sonoma, CA ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:28:31 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 From: Wayne Bressler Gary, I hope he's been saving for college, because Embry-Riddle ain't cheap! $100k+ in student loan debt is the norm after graduation. If he does flight training there, you could about double that number. I'm still paying for my two semesters there before I transferred to MTSU. Luckily for me, I'm in a job that can pay my bills AND my student loans. Some people aren't so fortunate. I apologize for getting so far off topic, but I think it's really important that any college-bound youngster understand the reality of student loan debt. It will have a huge impact on their financial stability after graduation. Believe me, I'm paying for it now. Back to Beau: Do you know what he's planning to study, or which campus he'll be attending? I did my stint in Daytona, but also spent 10 weeks in Prescott for work a few years ago. I work with guys who graduated from both campuses. Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com Do not archive On Dec 26, 2010, at 2:04 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > The welder is Beau Hotchkiss, a family friend, whom I brought with me to > CC18. The other is his friend, Cory. Beau has good shop skills, even for 17 > yr old, and is Emery Riddle bound. > > Gary > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:33 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 > > > Gary its looking really good. Who are the young men helping you? They look > like they both are doing good. > Merry 2nd day of Christmas. > Jim > > Do Not Archive > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Boothe" > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:36:42 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 > > Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought about > putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights, but they > really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking welding in high > school, so I put him to work making some adjustments to my carb flange. The > other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box wrench, so I taught him a > few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he is finishing up the access > panels for my fuel tank. Both did an outstanding job, without any needed > re-work from me! We finished up the day by making one of the fuel lines. > > > > Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week.Life is good! > > > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, Running! > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (23 ribs down.) > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:17 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 Thanks for the input, Wayne! He definitely wants Daytona, and is currently speaking to them. I don't think he has narrowed down his field...he's a smart kid. Fortunately for him, his parents are way better off than I. All I could afford to do for my two is drive them down to the Marine Corps recruiter... Gary Boothe Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Bressler Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 Gary, I hope he's been saving for college, because Embry-Riddle ain't cheap! $100k+ in student loan debt is the norm after graduation. If he does flight training there, you could about double that number. I'm still paying for my two semesters there before I transferred to MTSU. Luckily for me, I'm in a job that can pay my bills AND my student loans. Some people aren't so fortunate. I apologize for getting so far off topic, but I think it's really important that any college-bound youngster understand the reality of student loan debt. It will have a huge impact on their financial stability after graduation. Believe me, I'm paying for it now. Back to Beau: Do you know what he's planning to study, or which campus he'll be attending? I did my stint in Daytona, but also spent 10 weeks in Prescott for work a few years ago. I work with guys who graduated from both campuses. Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com Do not archive On Dec 26, 2010, at 2:04 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > The welder is Beau Hotchkiss, a family friend, whom I brought with me to > CC18. The other is his friend, Cory. Beau has good shop skills, even for 17 > yr old, and is Emery Riddle bound. > > Gary > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:33 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 > > > Gary its looking really good. Who are the young men helping you? They look > like they both are doing good. > Merry 2nd day of Christmas. > Jim > > Do Not Archive > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Boothe" > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:36:42 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 > > Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought about > putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights, but they > really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking welding in high > school, so I put him to work making some adjustments to my carb flange. The > other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box wrench, so I taught him a > few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he is finishing up the access > panels for my fuel tank. Both did an outstanding job, without any needed > re-work from me! We finished up the day by making one of the fuel lines. > > > > Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week.Life is good! > > > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, Running! > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (23 ribs down.) > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:48:23 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sweeney's Radiator From: "Pieti Lowell" Don needs a Zenith IN 180 Series Carb. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324575#324575 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:55 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: resrend of what did not get posted yesterday system problems I gusee Merry Christmas to all O youza from John Recine at Builapalooza! Do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 From: Wayne Bressler Daytona is a beautiful campus, with lots of fun stuff to do nearby. I stayed in Doolittle Hall, and had a great time. I'm no expert on ERAU anymore, it's been 10 years since I was a student there. :) I transferred to MTSU to study Aerospace Administration, but I also did the FAA program for Air Traffic Control. Both programs are available at both schools, the most obvious difference is cost of tuition. Oh, and MTSU is a regular college, so they actually have girls there. Something most aviation universities lack in significant numbers. Just sayin'... Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com Do not archive On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:35 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > Thanks for the input, Wayne! He definitely wants Daytona, and is currently > speaking to them. I don't think he has narrowed down his field...he's a > smart kid. Fortunately for him, his parents are way better off than I. All I > could afford to do for my two is drive them down to the Marine Corps > recruiter... > > Gary Boothe > Do not archive > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne > Bressler > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 12:24 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 > > > > Gary, > > I hope he's been saving for college, because Embry-Riddle ain't cheap! > $100k+ in student loan debt is the norm after graduation. If he does flight > training there, you could about double that number. > > I'm still paying for my two semesters there before I transferred to MTSU. > Luckily for me, I'm in a job that can pay my bills AND my student loans. > Some people aren't so fortunate. > > I apologize for getting so far off topic, but I think it's really important > that any college-bound youngster understand the reality of student loan > debt. It will have a huge impact on their financial stability after > graduation. Believe me, I'm paying for it now. > > Back to Beau: Do you know what he's planning to study, or which campus he'll > be attending? I did my stint in Daytona, but also spent 10 weeks in > Prescott for work a few years ago. I work with guys who graduated from both > campuses. > > Wayne Bressler Jr. > Taildraggers, Inc. > taildraggersinc.com > > Do not archive > > On Dec 26, 2010, at 2:04 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > >> >> The welder is Beau Hotchkiss, a family friend, whom I brought with me to >> CC18. The other is his friend, Cory. Beau has good shop skills, even for > 17 >> yr old, and is Emery Riddle bound. >> >> Gary >> Do not archive >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer >> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:33 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 >> >> >> Gary its looking really good. Who are the young men helping you? They look >> like they both are doing good. >> Merry 2nd day of Christmas. >> Jim >> >> Do Not Archive >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Boothe" >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:36:42 AM >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23 >> >> Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought about >> putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights, but they >> really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking welding in high >> school, so I put him to work making some adjustments to my carb flange. > The >> other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box wrench, so I taught him a >> few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he is finishing up the access >> panels for my fuel tank. Both did an outstanding job, without any needed >> re-work from me! We finished up the day by making one of the fuel lines. >> >> >> >> Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week.Life is good! >> >> >> >> Gary Boothe >> Cool, Ca. >> Pietenpol >> WW Corvair Conversion, Running! >> Tail done, Fuselage on gear >> (23 ribs down.) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:26:49 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: resrend of what did not get posted yesterday system problems I gusee Same to you, John! Having my own Son of Buildapalooza.! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (23 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: resrend of what did not get posted yesterday system problems I gusee Merry Christmas to all O youza from John Recine at Builapalooza! Do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:02:53 PM PST US From: "AmsafetyC@aol.com" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: resrend of what did not get posted yesterday system problems I gusee Neither size nor generation nor time of year can make you a looza when you're engoying your own buildapalooza. Neirher the father the son nor have half hearted attempt can diminish the palooza. I have no idea what it meant so please do not archive John Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Gary Boothe Sent: Sun, Dec 26, 2010 21:27:08 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: resrend of what did not get posted yesterday system problems I gusee Same to you, John! Having my own Son of Buildapalooza.! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear (23 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: resrend of what did not get posted yesterday system problems I gusee Merry Christmas to all O youza from John Recine at Builapalooza! Do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:12 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bigfoot airport From: John Fay Matt, Couldn't help noticing. Bigfoot airport is where I learned to fly. Walworth is my hometown (In case you are all wondering, it is located on the Bigfoot prairie, named for the Pottowatomie chief of that area when the first settlers came in 1837.) John Fay in Peoria On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:30 AM, wrote: > Dan, I expect NX629ML will make it's first trip to Brodhead in 2011. > Looks like it'll be spring before the first flight though, with winter > clamping down early like it has. I usually make a stop at Big Foot for a day > or two before Oshkosh but will probably go direct to Brodhead next year. I > think Jack Phillips is thinking about flying up with me, and another friend > who recently finished a Chinook project. > > Matt Paxton > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bigfoot airport From: Ryan Mueller Neat little airport, Bigfoot. Nice pancake breakfasts. Good memories flying a Tri-Pacer in there, and a memorable landing in a Bamboo Bomber. Somewhere amongst my packed belongings I have an old Bigfoot t-shirt with all sorts of oil stains from the Bomber. :P Ryan do not archive On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 5:36 PM, John Fay wrote: > Matt, > > Couldn't help noticing. Bigfoot airport is where I learned to fly. > Walworth is my hometown > > (In case you are all wondering, it is located on the Bigfoot prairie, named > for the Pottowatomie chief of that area when the first settlers came in > 1837.) > > John Fay > in Peoria > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:30 AM, wrote: > >> Dan, I expect NX629ML will make it's first trip to Brodhead in 2011. >> Looks like it'll be spring before the first flight though, with winter >> clamping down early like it has. I usually make a stop at Big Foot for a day >> or two before Oshkosh but will probably go direct to Brodhead next year. I >> think Jack Phillips is thinking about flying up with me, and another friend >> who recently finished a Chinook project. >> >> Matt Paxton >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com >> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com >> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com* >> >> > * > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:30 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: One wing ready for paint From: "Dangerous Dave" Howdy,I have one wing ready to paint and should have both wings done by sunday evening.Stewart Systems still A+.Dave -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324599#324599 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_26_16_08_30_336_162.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_26_16_10_14_702_201.jpg ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:30:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dec 23 From: "kevinpurtee" I'm an ERAU alum twice over. Did it the old fashioned way: active duty. Lots of weekends and nights (prior to internet college). No debt, though:). do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324601#324601 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dec 23 From: "kevinpurtee" Your work is beautiful, as usual, Gary. do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324602#324602 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:03 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dec 23 ...(speechless!) that's impressive! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dec 23 I'm an ERAU alum twice over. Did it the old fashioned way: active duty. Lots of weekends and nights (prior to internet college). No debt, though:). do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324601#324601 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:16 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dec 23 Kevin, I have been wondering. Does Kevin&Quot,Axel",Purtee mean Kevin and his Love? Cheers and Merry christmas and happy new year. Gardiner Mason ----- Original Message ---- From: kevinpurtee Sent: Sun, December 26, 2010 7:28:29 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dec 23 I'm an ERAU alum twice over. Did it the old fashioned way: active duty. Lots of weekends and nights (prior to internet college). No debt, though:). do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324601#324601 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:52 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: vibration testing I concluded vibration testing on my A75 today, with good results. Recall that before balancing, the Dynavibe was showing 0.51 IPS imbalance at 2150 RPM, which was maximum static at the condition on Dec. 18. We ran some other tests using a different carb venturi and adjusted the engine thrust line, but those had nothing to do with the vibration work. An interim test run using longer AN6 prop bolts with four stacked washers under the heads resulted in a reduction of vibration to 0.27 IPS at 2150 RPM, with just a slight radial change in location of the heavy side of the prop. We were on the right track. Today we added a small 'flyweight' clamped between the two prop bolts across from the side of the prop that the Dynavibe had identified as heavy. It was purposely made a bit heavier than we think will be the final shape of it, allowing for rounding of the edges and then applying paint (it's 4130 steel). Warmed up the engine and ran the Dynavibe averaging again, and achieved 0.07 IPS and now the heavy side has shifted radially on the hub, indicating that we would be chasing small changes from here on, with very limited ways of offsetting the heaviness. So, we called it more than just good (Dynavibe says to shoot for no more than 0.1 IPS). Cowlings back on, engine warmed up, and a test flight in "Scout" was just deee-lightful!!! What a joy, not only in the buttery smoothness of the engine, but leveling out at cruise, the change in engine thrustline offset was very rewarding. Hands off, feet off, half tank of fuel, and the yaw is almost gone... a half-ball of left turning, which a very light touch on the right rudder would stop instantly. I never thought this would be a hands-off airplane, but it's getting very close! We'll reinstall the bent-metal trim tab on the rudder and I'll bet the next flight will show NO yawing tendency with feet off the rudders. This airplane is getting sweeter with every tweak we give it. Of course, it was clear and COLD here today (mid-40s) so Scout climbed wonderfully, but still- the improvements are noticeable and useful. This is why we call it 'EXPERIMENTAL', and why we love doing it ;o) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" San Antonio, TX website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: vibration testing From: "Ryan Mueller" Outstanding Oscar. I hope this experience makes it its way to Doc in the form of an article for the BPA newsletter. Your contributions have always been good reading, and I look forward to this being in print! Merry Christmas! Ryan Mueller -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com I concluded vibration testing on my A75 today, with good results. Recall that before balancing, the Dynavibe was showing 0.51 IPS imbalance at 2150 RPM, which was maximum static at the condition on Dec. 18. We ran some other tests using a different carb venturi and adjusted the engine thrust line, but those had nothing to do with the vibration work. An interim test run using longer AN6 prop bolts with four stacked washers under the heads resulted in a reduction of vibration to 0.27 IPS at 2150 RPM, with just a slight radial change in location of the heavy side of the prop. We were on the right track. Today we added a small 'flyweight' clamped between the two prop bolts across from the side of the prop that the Dynavibe had identified as heavy. It was purposely made a bit heavier than we think will be the final shape of it, allowing for rounding of the edges and then applying paint (it's 4130 steel). Warmed up the engine and ran the Dynavibe averaging again, and achieved 0.07 IPS and now the heavy side has shifted radially on the hub, indicating that we would be chasing small changes from here on, with very limited ways of offsetting the heaviness. So, we called it more than just good (Dynavibe says to shoot for no more than 0.1 IPS). Cowlings back on, engine warmed up, and a test flight in "Scout" was just deee-lightful!!! What a joy, not only in the buttery smoothness of the engine, but leveling out at cruise, the change in engine thrustline offset was very rewarding. Hands off, feet off, half tank of fuel, and the yaw is almost gone... a half-ball of left turning, which a very light touch on the right rudder would stop instantly. I never thought this would be a hands-off airplane, but it's getting very close! We'll reinstall the bent-metal trim tab on the rudder and I'll bet the next flight will show NO yawing tendency with feet off the rudders. This airplane is getting sweeter with every tweak we give it. Of course, it was clear and COLD here today (mid-40s) so Scout climbed wonderfully, but still- the improvements are noticeable and useful. This is why we call it 'EXPERIMENTAL', and why we love doing it ;o) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" San Antonio, TX website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: One wing ready for paint From: Rick Holland Beautiful Dave, your the fastest rib lacer in the West. rick On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Dangerous Dave wrote: > > Howdy,I have one wing ready to paint and should have both wings done by > sunday evening.Stewart Systems still A+.Dave > > -------- > Covering Piet > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324599#324599 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_26_16_08_30_336_162.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2010_12_26_16_10_14_702_201.jpg > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.