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1. 05:52 AM - Re: Bigfoot airport (GliderMike)
2. 07:17 AM - Cable Tension (Charles Campbell)
3. 09:17 AM - Re: Cable Tension (K5YAC)
4. 09:44 AM - Re: Cable Tension (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 10:08 AM - Re: Cable Tension (Ryan Mueller)
6. 10:25 AM - Re: Dec 23 (kevinpurtee)
7. 10:28 AM - Re: Cable Tension (Charles Campbell)
8. 10:48 AM - Re: Cable Tension (Ryan Mueller)
9. 10:48 AM - Re: Cable Tension (Ryan Mueller)
10. 11:05 AM - Cable tension (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
11. 12:14 PM - Re: Dec 23 (Jim Boyer)
12. 12:16 PM - Re: Dec 23 (Jim Boyer)
13. 12:46 PM - Re: Sweeney's Radiator (skellytown flyer)
14. 01:21 PM - Re: Cable tension (Charles Campbell)
15. 01:24 PM - Re: The Rambo Piet (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
16. 02:06 PM - Re: Cable Tension (airlion)
17. 05:05 PM - Re: Cable Tension (Charles Campbell)
18. 05:18 PM - Re: Cable Tension (kevinpurtee)
19. 05:26 PM - Re: Dec 23 (Darrel Jones)
20. 05:26 PM - Re: Cable Tension (Matthew VanDervort)
21. 06:27 PM - MA-2 carburetor (VanDy)
22. 07:51 PM - Re: Cable Tension (K5YAC)
23. 08:41 PM - Re: wood legs (bender)
24. 09:54 PM - Re: Re: wood legs (Ryan Mueller)
25. 10:35 PM - Re: Re: wood legs (Clif Dawson)
26. 11:11 PM - Re: Cable Tension (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | Re: Bigfoot airport |
Is Bigfoot grass, with 2 runways that form a "T," and one of the runways has terraces
in it? And pretty close to Beloit? If so, I made my 25th parachute jump
into there, I think it was in 1980. A group of us flew from Muskogee to there
in a DC3, and jumped in, then made quite a few jumps over a weekend. If I remember
correctly, they had 2 Twin Otters there for the weekend, in addition to
the DC3 we rode up there in, and maybe one more DC3 there. The DC3 lost an engine
on the way home, and we landed in Burlington, IA. My room mate talked the
people there into renting a Twin Commander to us, and some of us got home in
a timely manner, instead of waiting for the DC3 to get some new cylinders.
It was quite a time. I know the airport wasn't regularly used for skydiving at
the time, just for this special event. I don't remember there being any hangars
there, but I may not be remembering correctly. I do remember the fences adjacent
to the runway were cornstalks, about 7 ft high.
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HOMEBUILDER
Will WORK for Spruce
Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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I'm not quite ready to have to know but I am at the point where I'm
thinking about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you
know when they are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
Chuck (Charles, in the list)
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Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
One of those interesting topics... some will recommend that you be able to play
"Banjo Duel" on the drag cables and "Devil Went Down to Georgia" on the controls.
Even with a tensiometer you will get recommendations from 20 to 120 pounds.
I'm not sure that there is an exact value given in black and white, even
in AC 43.13 or Tony's books, but I'm sure you'll get several educated responses.
Sorry I can't help on this topic, but I'll be reading the mail along with ya.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it musical note
G method and every other opinion under the sun on how tight the cables need
to be and how to tighten them.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 9:17 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
I'm not quite ready to have to know but I am at the point where I'm thinkin
g about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you know when th
ey are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
Chuck (Charles, in the list)
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Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
What would Bernard do, Dan? :)
Ryan
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:42 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it musical note
> G method and every other opinion under the sun on how tight the cables need
> to be and how to tighten them.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 9:17 am
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
>
> I'm not quite ready to *have* to know but I am at the point where I'm
> thinking about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you know
> when they are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
>
> Chuck (Charles, in the list)
>
> *
>
> _blank>www.aeroelectric.com
> /" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com
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>
> *
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Absolutely, Gardiner!
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Happy Holidays
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
Come on, guys! I'm sure this has been a thread on here before but I
don't have access to what piet builders (who have a finished product)
have done. Dan, what did you do? Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it musical
note G method and every other opinion under the sun on how tight the
cables need to be and how to tighten them.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 9:17 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
I'm not quite ready to have to know but I am at the point where I'm
thinking about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you
know when they are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
Chuck (Charles, in the list)
_blank>www.aeroelectric.com
/" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com
=_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com
blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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p://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
http://www.matronics.com/search/
<http://www.matronics.com/search/>Piet list archives going back at least
11-12 years....read the instructions on how to properly format a search. I'd
recommend spending some time searching there....
Ryan
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Charles Campbell <
cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote:
> Come on, guys! I'm sure this has been a thread on here before but I
> don't have access to what piet builders (who have a finished product) have
> done. Dan, what did you do? Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* helspersew@aol.com
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, December 27, 2010 12:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
>
> OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it musical note
> G method and every other opinion under the sun on how tight the cables need
> to be and how to tighten them.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 9:17 am
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
>
> I'm not quite ready to *have* to know but I am at the point where I'm
> thinking about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you know
> when they are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
>
> Chuck (Charles, in the list)
>
> *
>
> _blank>www.aeroelectric.com
> /" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com
> =_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com
> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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> p://forums.matronics.com*
>
> *
>
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Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
Wasn't 'thwang" the appropriate note? ;)
Ryan
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:42 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it musical note
> G method and every other opinion under the sun on how tight the cables need
> to be and how to tighten them.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 9:17 am
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
>
> I'm not quite ready to *have* to know but I am at the point where I'm
> thinking about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you know
> when they are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
>
> Chuck (Charles, in the list)
>
> *
>
> _blank>www.aeroelectric.com
> /" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com
> =_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com
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>
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Here is what I have stored in my personal Pietenpol folder:
West Marine carries the Loos "regular" cable tensiometer
for $79.99 and it's good for 3/32", 1/8", and 5/32" cables.
Pete Bowers in the plans for the fly baby says to tighten the cables as
tight as you can with your fingers, then give the turnbuckle barrel one
more turn. When I did this on my wings, I got a FWANG sound. My Tech
Counselor said to tighten to no more than 40#. When I checked it with a
tensionometer, thats what I had.
Rick S.
You can buy cable tensiometers, but they are expensive and unnecessary.
Just tighten the cables until all four are a little more than snug and they
all make approximately the same sound when plucked. You don't want them
terribly tight - they don't need to go "Peeeng" when plucked. Just a nice
low "Thmmmm", but they should all make about the same sound.
These cables actually control the alignment of the wing to the centerline of
the airplane. To set the initial tension, pick either the forward pair (at
the fuselage) or the rear pair and tighten them to a little more than snug.
Then use a metal tape measure and measure the distance from the tailpost to
each wingtip. Each distance should be the same, within +/- 1/4". If the
distances are off, adjust the tension in the flying wires until the wing is
square with the fuselage. Then tighten the other pair and re-measure the
tailpost to wingtip distance, both sides. Adjust tensions as necessary.
Washout is set differently. It is controlled by the length of the rear lift
struts and depending on your strut design may or may not be easily
adjustable. I have a small bit of washout in mine and the stall
characteristics are good. As far as I know I have not flown a Pietenpol
without washout (Ryan, does yours have washout or not?) but I suspect it
would be fine without it.
Good luck!
Jack Phillips
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Good for Beau; nice to see young men going into the industry. See you Wednesday.
Jim
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:04:44 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23
The welder is Beau Hotchkiss, a family friend, whom I brought with me to
CC18. The other is his friend, Cory. Beau has good shop skills, even for 17
yr old, and is Emery Riddle bound.
Gary
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23
Gary its looking really good. Who are the young men helping you? They look
like they both are doing good.
Merry 2nd day of Christmas.
Jim
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:36:42 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23
Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought about
putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights, but they
really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking welding in high
school, so I put him to work making some adjustments to my carb flange. The
other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box wrench, so I taught him a
few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he is finishing up the access
panels for my fuel tank. Both did an outstanding job, without any needed
re-work from me! We finished up the day by making one of the fuel lines.
Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week.Life is good!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(23 ribs down.)
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Hey Darrel,
How about meeting me at say 9:30AM Wednesday at your hangar? We should be able
to make it in 2 hours right?
See you there,
Jim
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrel Jones" <wd6bor@vom.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:08:28 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23
On 12/26/2010 9:36 AM, Gary Boothe wrote:
>
> Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought
> about putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights,
> but they really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking
> welding in high school, so I put him to work making some adjustments
> to my carb flange. The other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box
> wrench, so I taught him a few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he
> is finishing up the access panels for my fuel tank. Both did an
> outstanding job, without any needed re-work from me! We finished up
> the day by making one of the fuel lines.
>
> Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week...Life is good!
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, Ca.
> Pietenpol
> WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> (23 ribs down...)
>
Gary,
We may have to run up to Cool to check out the progress before or after
lunch Wednesday.
Looking forward to seeing everyone.
Darrel Jones
Sonoma, CA
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Subject: | Re: Sweeney's Radiator |
I know very little about Zenith down draft carbs, but what about your typical VW
carb? I believe they are some version of Zenith downdraft. I even have one in
my garage in some junk. I have no idea of capacity but they are common.and if
needed I could sure ship it. Raymond
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Subject: | Re: Cable tension |
Jack, you're a prince. Thank you. That is exactly what I will try to do.
Incidentally, I was a Technical Writer (Electronics) for about 30 years and
I perceive that you would have made a good one. Thanks again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "KM Heide CPO/FAAOP" <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable tension
> <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
>
> Here is what I have stored in my personal Pietenpol folder:
>
> West Marine carries the Loos "regular" cable tensiometer
> for $79.99 and it's good for 3/32", 1/8", and 5/32" cables.
>
> Pete Bowers in the plans for the fly baby says to tighten the cables as
> tight as you can with your fingers, then give the turnbuckle barrel one
> more turn. When I did this on my wings, I got a FWANG sound. My Tech
> Counselor said to tighten to no more than 40#. When I checked it with a
> tensionometer, thats what I had.
>
> Rick S.
>
> You can buy cable tensiometers, but they are expensive and unnecessary.
> Just tighten the cables until all four are a little more than snug and
> they
> all make approximately the same sound when plucked. You don't want them
> terribly tight - they don't need to go "Peeeng" when plucked. Just a nice
> low "Thmmmm", but they should all make about the same sound.
>
> These cables actually control the alignment of the wing to the centerline
> of
> the airplane. To set the initial tension, pick either the forward pair
> (at
> the fuselage) or the rear pair and tighten them to a little more than
> snug.
> Then use a metal tape measure and measure the distance from the tailpost
> to
> each wingtip. Each distance should be the same, within +/- 1/4". If the
> distances are off, adjust the tension in the flying wires until the wing
> is
> square with the fuselage. Then tighten the other pair and re-measure the
> tailpost to wingtip distance, both sides. Adjust tensions as necessary.
>
> Washout is set differently. It is controlled by the length of the rear
> lift
> struts and depending on your strut design may or may not be easily
> adjustable. I have a small bit of washout in mine and the stall
> characteristics are good. As far as I know I have not flown a Pietenpol
> without washout (Ryan, does yours have washout or not?) but I suspect it
> would be fine without it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jack Phillips
>
>
>
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Looks GREAT GENE !!!!!!
Thanks for taking those photos Jack.
Mike C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2010 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The Rambo Piet
Attached are a few of the photos Jack Phillips took. I hope they are not t
oo large to load.
Gene Rambo
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Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
Folks, I used the SAR method and it works just fine. Cheers, Gardiner
________________________________
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 1:46:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
Wasn't 'thwang" the appropriate note? ;)
Ryan
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:42 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it musical note G
method and every other opinion under the sun on how tight the cables need to be
and how to tighten them.
>
>Dan Helsper
>Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 9:17 am
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
>
>
>I'm not quite ready to have to know but I am at the point where I'm thinking
>about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you know when they
>are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
>
>Chuck (Charles, in the list)
> _blank>www.aeroelectric.com /" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com
>=_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution "
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>p://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
What, pray tell, is the SAR system?
----- Original Message -----
From: airlion
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
Folks, I used the SAR method and it works just fine. Cheers, Gardiner
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From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 1:46:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
Wasn't 'thwang" the appropriate note? ;)
Ryan
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:42 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it
musical note G method and every other opinion under the sun on how tight
the cables need to be and how to tighten them.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 9:17 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
I'm not quite ready to have to know but I am at the point where I'm
thinking about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you
know when they are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
Chuck (Charles, in the list)
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"Sounds About Right"
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Jim,
9:30 at my hangar will be fine. I contacted the Sacramento guy I bought
my cores from and he said to stop by and see his collection. He has
quite a few cars and engines and is just off the freeway. If it works
out I'll give him a call from the restaurant.
See you Wednesday.
Darrel
On 12/27/2010 12:13 PM, Jim Boyer wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Boyer<boyerjrb@comcast.net>
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> Hey Darrel,
> How about meeting me at say 9:30AM Wednesday at your hangar? We should be able
to make it in 2 hours right?
> See you there,
> Jim
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darrel Jones"<wd6bor@vom.com>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:08:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dec 23
>
> On 12/26/2010 9:36 AM, Gary Boothe wrote:
>> Couple of young Jedi's showed up last Thursday morning. I thought
>> about putting them to work raking leaves and putting up X-mas lights,
>> but they really wanted to look at the Piet. One has been taking
>> welding in high school, so I put him to work making some adjustments
>> to my carb flange. The other didn't know an open-end wrench from a box
>> wrench, so I taught him a few things about sheet metal. In the pic, he
>> is finishing up the access panels for my fuel tank. Both did an
>> outstanding job, without any needed re-work from me! We finished up
>> the day by making one of the fuel lines.
>>
>> Got everything I need to seal and rivet the tank this week...Life is good!
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> Cool, Ca.
>> Pietenpol
>> WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
>> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>> (23 ribs down...)
>>
> Gary,
>
> We may have to run up to Cool to check out the progress before or after
> lunch Wednesday.
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone.
>
> Darrel Jones
> Sonoma, CA
>
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This is just a guess... But i'm gonna say.. "Sounds About Right!"
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On Dec 27, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> w
rote:
> What, pray tell, is the SAR system?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: airlion
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
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> Folks, I used the SAR method and it works just fine. Cheers, Gardiner
>
>
> From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 1:46:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
>
> Wasn't 'thwang" the appropriate note? ;)
>
> Ryan
>
> do not archive
>
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:42 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it musical note
G method and every other opinion under the sun on how tight the cables need
to be and how to tighten them.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 9:17 am
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
>
> I'm not quite ready to have to know but I am at the point where I'm thinki
ng about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you know when th
ey are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
>
> Chuck (Charles, in the list)
>
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quick background... ive had my A for 10 years now, and my P for 9, but just
now starting to get into the GA field indepth, and I just learned from Grandpa
that the MA-2 on my Piet, (that grandpa BIG JIM VANDERVORT built) is pretty
much obsolete, so.. any body have any info on where to find parts for it? the
Carb on it was good when it ran last, but that was 9 years ago, and i'd like to
keep it as close to how he built it as possible!
im also doing the same with my 1978 Suzuki Motorcycle, buying spare parts, that
I can find, in muliples of 3!
thanks for the input!
--------
www.vansavition.com follow my Piet rebuild there!
almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable
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Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
EAA Sport Aviation, Jan 2011 - Pg. 92 "Control Cable Tension"
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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i feel like this shouldn't be so hard.... i started trying to build the gear legs...
wow..it sucks
it looks so simple in the drawings..
i think carving a prop would be easier
stopping for the night but not giving up
jeff
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You need to read:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/wood_landing_gear.htm
<http://www.westcoastpiet.com/wood_landing_gear.htm>Ryan
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:39 PM, bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>wrote:
> jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
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> i feel like this shouldn't be so hard.... i started trying to build the
> gear legs... wow..it sucks
> it looks so simple in the drawings..
> i think carving a prop would be easier
> stopping for the night but not giving up
>
> jeff
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324758#324758
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For what it's worth, this is what I did.
The initial fitting was with scrap wood.
Once the ends fit the fuselage and the
block at the V then the angles were
transfered to the Fir.
And yes, even with a carefully designed and
constructed jig it was still akin to a female
dog.
http://www.clifdawson.ca/Homepage4-10-06/Pietenpol3.html
Clif
Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bender" > i feel like this shouldn't be
so hard.... i started trying to build the gear legs... wow..it sucks
> it looks so simple in the drawings..
> jeff
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That's a good point. Let's get somebody to go measure
his existing planes. :-)
Clf
What would Bernard do, Dan? :)
Ryan
OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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