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1. 12:29 AM - Re: Re: wood legs (Chris)
2. 04:38 AM - Cable tension (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 05:22 AM - Re: wood legs (Jerry Dotson)
4. 05:50 AM - Re: wood legs (bender)
5. 05:54 AM - Re: Re: wood legs (Kip and Beth Gardner)
6. 05:54 AM - Re: Re: Cable Tension (Charles Campbell)
7. 06:22 AM - Re: Cable Tension (airlion)
8. 07:46 AM - Re: Cable tension (Charles Campbell)
9. 07:50 AM - Re: wood legs (Jerry Dotson)
10. 08:41 AM - Jerry's legs (Gboothe5)
11. 09:15 AM - Re: Cable Tension (K5YAC)
12. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: Cable Tension (Kenneth Bickers)
13. 09:49 AM - Re: Re: Cable Tension (Kenneth Bickers)
14. 09:54 AM - Re: Jerry's legs (amsafetyc@aol.com)
15. 10:17 AM - Re: Cable Tension (K5YAC)
16. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: Cable Tension (airlion)
17. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: wood legs (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
18. 12:21 PM - Re: wood legs (Jerry Dotson)
19. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: Piet List Directory (macz@peak.org)
20. 03:51 PM - Re: Re: Cable Tension (Charles Campbell)
21. 05:03 PM - Fuel tank (Gary Boothe)
22. 05:03 PM - gear fittings (bender)
23. 05:35 PM - Re: gear fittings (Jack Phillips)
24. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: Re: Piet List Directory (Jack)
25. 06:04 PM - Re: gear fittings (Chris)
26. 06:06 PM - Re: gear fittings (Chris)
27. 06:16 PM - Re: Fuel tank (kevinpurtee)
28. 07:36 PM - flying, finally (Dick N)
29. 08:40 PM - Re: flying, finally (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
30. 09:48 PM - Re: Fuel tank (Jim Boyer)
31. 10:45 PM - Re: Cable tension (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
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What specifically are you having problems with? Those of us who have done it
can probably help figure out your problem.
Biggest thing to do is make sure the ash block is pointing at the tail
wheel. Take a string and make sure the top surface of the block is parallel
to a line drawn to the tail wheel. Then cut the legs to fill the space
between the ash block and the fuselage. As someone already suggested, take
a look at what I have about building the wood gear on my web page and ask
more question if you need it.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:39 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood legs
--> <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
i feel like this shouldn't be so hard.... i started trying to build the gear
legs... wow..it sucks it looks so simple in the drawings..
i think carving a prop would be easier
stopping for the night but not giving up
jeff
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Charles,
Didn't mean to jump on you. We here on the Pietenpol list subscribe to the
notion that there are no stupid questions. I would have appreciated this th
read myself if I had been in your position. In response to your original qu
ery, the compilation of what we have so far is:
"FWANG"
"Peeeng"
"Thmmmm",
SAR method
I myself used "thwang" and it has performed beautifully so far. I would rea
lly like to be able to reveal what method Bernerd used, so we all could get
the last word on this subject, but seeing that I am bound not to open the
"Lost Papers of BHP" canister for another 5 months (once per year), I canno
t. Now keep in mind that this information may not even be in those papers.
Even the Bible is silent on some mundane subjects, such as let's say, how
often to get a haircut.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
"Thmmmm",
SAR method
I myself used "thwang" and it has performed beautifully so far. I would rea
lly like to be able to reveal what method Bernerd used, so we all could get
the last word on this subject, but seeing that I am bound not to open the
"Lost Papers of BHP" canister for another 5 months (once per year), I canno
t. Now keep in mind that this information may not even be in those papers.
Even the Bible is silent on some mundane subjects, such as let's say, how
often to get a haircut.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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The gear on NX510JD is laminated from red oak, poplar,pecan, ash, and fir. 10---1/4
inch layers. All the struts are laminated with 9---1/4 layers with a 3/8
4130 steel rod sandwiched inside.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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i guess what got to me last night was that the flying and glider dimensions were
not working out.. the ash block was too short when the Long cut for the rear
leg was made...the ash block needs to be longer i believe. i managed to make
the cuts pretty easy.. by drawing lines around each leg and eyeballing on the
band saw.. then i realize the outside bottom brackets i made were off... i literally
blew up the images on a copy machine till the measurements were right ..but
i missed the fact that the bottom was about 7 inches long instead of the
5 3/4 shown on the drawings even though the other dimensions were correct. i kept
wondering how that was going to work with the inside brackets.. i thought
i was being clever too
so its jigged up and three legs may be good.. i just need to make new brackets
and lengthen the ash block i believe
and the west coast piet site does get lots of studying..thanks
jeff
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Hi Jerry,
What's the lamination orientation on your struts? 9 1/4 in. laminates
seems like a lot. Also, does the 3/8 inch rod carry all the way
through & attach to anything, or lust there for reinforcement? I'm
planning on wood struts with carbon fiber between the laminations.
KIp Gardner
On Dec 28, 2010, at 8:19 AM, Jerry Dotson wrote:
> >
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> The gear on NX510JD is laminated from red oak, poplar,pecan, ash,
> and fir. 10---1/4 inch layers. All the struts are laminated with
> 9---1/4 layers with a 3/8 4130 steel rod sandwiched inside.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> wing, tailfeathers done
> using Lycoming O-235
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324781#324781
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| Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
I don't have my Jan 2011 issue. Guess I need to call EAA.
----- Original Message -----
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:48 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cable Tension
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> EAA Sport Aviation, Jan 2011 - Pg. 92 "Control Cable Tension"
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> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
SAR system is Sounds About Right
________________________________
From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:02:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
What, pray tell, is the SAR system?
----- Original Message -----
>From: airlion
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
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>Folks, I used the SAR method and it works just fine. Cheers, Gardiner
>
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________________________________
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 1:46:41 PM
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
>
>Wasn't 'thwang" the appropriate note? ;)
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>Ryan
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>do not archive
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>On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:42 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
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>OH NO, here we go again with the "twang" or "dwang" or was it musical note
>G method and every other opinion under the sun on how tight the cables need
>to be and how to tighten them.
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>>Dan Helsper
>>Poplar Grove, IL.
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>
>>To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 9:17 am
>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable Tension
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>>I'm not quite ready to have to know but I am at the point where I'm
>>thinking about how tight the cable tensions need to be and how do you know
>>when they are correct without having access to a tensionometer?
>>
>>Chuck (Charles, in the list)
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| Subject: | Re: Cable tension |
I get a haircut once every six months whether I need it or not!!!! But
you're right -- the Bible doesn't cover the subject. No mention of
haircuts except the one Samson received, and it didn't suggest how often
this should happen
Jack Phillips says "Thummm" is the correct one. I believe that would be
a bit less tension than "FWang" and certainly less than "Peeeng". I'm
sure that would be way too tight.
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable tension
Charles,
Didn't mean to jump on you. We here on the Pietenpol list subscribe to
the notion that there are no stupid questions. I would have appreciated
this thread myself if I had been in your position. In response to your
original query, the compilation of what we have so far is:
"FWANG"
"Peeeng"
"Thmmmm",
SAR method
I myself used "thwang" and it has performed beautifully so far. I
would really like to be able to reveal what method Bernerd used, so we
all could get the last word on this subject, but seeing that I am bound
not to open the "Lost Papers of BHP" canister for another 5 months (once
per year), I cannot. Now keep in mind that this information may not
even be in those papers. Even the Bible is silent on some mundane
subjects, such as let's say, how often to get a haircut.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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The 3/8 rod goes all the way through. I glued up the struts 5 layers and 4 layers.
The I milled a 3/8 half round groove from end to end. Then laminated the
2 pieces around the rod with T-88. The 5 layer part will be trailing edge.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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Beautiful, Jerry!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood legs
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
The gear on NX510JD is laminated from red oak, poplar,pecan, ash, and fir.
10---1/4 inch layers. All the struts are laminated with 9---1/4 layers with
a 3/8 4130 steel rod sandwiched inside.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
Chuck Campbell wrote:
> I don't have my Jan 2011 issue. Guess I need to call EAA.
>
> ---
Just got mine yesterday... don't panic just yet.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
I just downloaded a copy, plus an interesting article on corvair
conversions, from the EAA website. If you are a member, you can log into
the EAA360 website. This will give access to all the upcoming articles, plus
a whole lot more. Cheers, Ken
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
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> Chuck Campbell wrote:
> > I don't have my Jan 2011 issue. Guess I need to call EAA.
> >
> > ---
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> Just got mine yesterday... don't panic just yet.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
... as an additional note, there is also a nice description (on page 90) of
a hole drilling jig for use in drilling holes through spars and other
critical pieces. When I read it, I wanted to slap my forehead. Cheap. Dirt
simple. Great idea.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Kenneth Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>wrote:
> I just downloaded a copy, plus an interesting article on corvair
> conversions, from the EAA website. If you are a member, you can log into
> the EAA360 website. This will give access to all the upcoming articles, plus
> a whole lot more. Cheers, Ken
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
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>> Chuck Campbell wrote:
>> > I don't have my Jan 2011 issue. Guess I need to call EAA.
>> >
>> > ---
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>> Just got mine yesterday... don't panic just yet.
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>> --------
>> Mark Chouinard
>> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324822#324822
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| Subject: | Re: Jerry's legs |
That's the way it begins first its the legs then who knows where it goes
from there. Jerry don't invite him to your hangar and for God sake watch out
for your tools
Do not archive
John
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2010 17:40:31 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jerry's legs
Beautiful, Jerry!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood legs
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
The gear on NX510JD is laminated from red oak, poplar,pecan, ash, and fir.
10---1/4 inch layers. All the struts are laminated with 9---1/4 layers with
a 3/8 4130 steel rod sandwiched inside.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
A what conversion? Corvair? Isn't that a car?
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
Yeah It's that old car but with wings on it now. Unsafe at stall speed. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Tue, December 28, 2010 1:15:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cable Tension
A what conversion? Corvair? Isn't that a car?
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Jerry,
Any photos?
--- On Tue, 12/28/10, Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
> From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood legs
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010, 9:48 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
>
> The 3/8 rod goes all the way through. I glued up the struts
> 5 layers and 4 layers. The I milled a 3/8 half round
> groove from end to end. Then laminated the 2 pieces around
> the rod with T-88. The 5 layer part will be trailing edge.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> wing, tailfeathers done
> using Lycoming O-235
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KM my airplane has yet to be assembled. Putting the finishing touches on the gear
now. Then I will assemble and finish the struts and brace cables. No covering
on anything yet.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Piet List Directory |
Jack--
I don't know if I'm on the list either, and I don't use Excel. Is there a
PDF version available?
Thanks, Mac in Oregon
> Barry,
>
> It's not public, just available to those who submit info. Attached is the
> latest copy, thanks.
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> Davis
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:39 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet List Directory
>
>
> Jack
>
> Is this list on the web somewhere? I was wondering if all the Big Piet
> guys
> submitted their info
>
> Barry
>
>
> _____
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> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet List Directory
>
> Jeff, I noticed you are not listed in our directory, if you (or anyone
> else)
> would like to submit your info please complete the attached Excel file and
> return to me. I will then send you the updated list which has 74
> listings.
> BTW nice progress, hangar and passenger!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> <<...>>
>
> Jack Textor
>
> 29 SW 58th Drive
>
> Des Moines, IA 50312
>
> www.textors.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cable Tension |
It came today. Read the article about cables and it didn't help much. I
need a set of what the article calls 'manufacturer's tolerances'. I guess
I'll use Jack Philips' system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:12 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cable Tension
>
>
> Chuck Campbell wrote:
>> I don't have my Jan 2011 issue. Guess I need to call EAA.
>>
>> ---
>
>
> Just got mine yesterday... don't panic just yet.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324822#324822
>
>
>
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Got the fuel tank sealed and assembled today!! .must have done things right,
'cuz I got the required amount of mess on my hands!!
Thanks to the pair of Jack's: Jack Phillips and Jack Textor.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(23 ribs down.)
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Ok... .i think i'm getting closer
I have the gear legs about right... but i made the lower bracket to the plans and
the angles just aren't right... but looking at the west coast site i see that
the metal was made to fit the angles of the gear...not the wood to fit the
metal.. and that makes it all look a little better.
am i wrong here ?? the fittings i made could work but the lines or the angles
don't match
so i think it goes like this... make the wood fit in the jig and to the fuselage
attach points... then make the metal fitting to hold the bottom of the gear
together..right ??
jeff :?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324856#324856
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Jeff,
I made all the wood parts first and then made the metal to fit the wood.
This is one of the reasons that prefabricated metal fittings for sale to
Pietenpol builders just doesn't work. You need to make the fittings "fit"
the wooden structure.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: gear fittings
Ok... .i think i'm getting closer
I have the gear legs about right... but i made the lower bracket to the
plans and the angles just aren't right... but looking at the west coast site
i see that the metal was made to fit the angles of the gear...not the wood
to fit the metal.. and that makes it all look a little better.
am i wrong here ?? the fittings i made could work but the lines or the
angles don't match
so i think it goes like this... make the wood fit in the jig and to the
fuselage attach points... then make the metal fitting to hold the bottom of
the gear together..right ??
jeff :?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324856#324856
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| Subject: | Piet List Directory |
Mac,
You are correct, not on the list. I've attached a pdf of the template to
fill out. In your return email just duplicate the information with each
cell separated by a comma. I will then try and do a pdf for you.
Thanks,
Jack
Do you have Word?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
macz@peak.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet List Directory
Jack--
I don't know if I'm on the list either, and I don't use Excel. Is there a
PDF version available?
Thanks, Mac in Oregon
> Barry,
>
> It's not public, just available to those who submit info. Attached is the
> latest copy, thanks.
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> Davis
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:39 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet List Directory
>
>
> Jack
>
> Is this list on the web somewhere? I was wondering if all the Big Piet
> guys
> submitted their info
>
> Barry
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet List Directory
>
> Jeff, I noticed you are not listed in our directory, if you (or anyone
> else)
> would like to submit your info please complete the attached Excel file and
> return to me. I will then send you the updated list which has 74
> listings.
> BTW nice progress, hangar and passenger!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> <<...>>
>
> Jack Textor
>
> 29 SW 58th Drive
>
> Des Moines, IA 50312
>
> www.textors.com
>
>
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"You need to make the fittings "fit"
the wooden structure."
Jack, I can't agree more. This is the number one tip I try to pass on to new
builders.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: gear fittings
--> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Jeff,
I made all the wood parts first and then made the metal to fit the wood.
This is one of the reasons that prefabricated metal fittings for sale to
Pietenpol builders just doesn't work. You need to make the fittings "fit"
the wooden structure.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: gear fittings
--> <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Ok... .i think i'm getting closer
I have the gear legs about right... but i made the lower bracket to the
plans and the angles just aren't right... but looking at the west coast site
i see that the metal was made to fit the angles of the gear...not the wood
to fit the metal.. and that makes it all look a little better.
am i wrong here ?? the fittings i made could work but the lines or the
angles don't match so i think it goes like this... make the wood fit in the
jig and to the fuselage attach points... then make the metal fitting to hold
the bottom of the gear together..right ??
jeff :?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324856#324856
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You are correct. Make the fittings fit your airplane.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: gear fittings
--> <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Ok... .i think i'm getting closer
I have the gear legs about right... but i made the lower bracket to the
plans and the angles just aren't right... but looking at the west coast site
i see that the metal was made to fit the angles of the gear...not the wood
to fit the metal.. and that makes it all look a little better.
am i wrong here ?? the fittings i made could work but the lines or the
angles don't match so i think it goes like this... make the wood fit in the
jig and to the fuselage attach points... then make the metal fitting to hold
the bottom of the gear together..right ??
jeff :?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324856#324856
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That do look messy, Gary!!!
I can see the usual building perfection peaking through the goop, though.
do not archive
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324870#324870
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With all of the cold we have been getting, I finally got out for an hour
today. Lots of snow around here, about 3+ feet. Air was perfectly
smooth, which made cruising at 1 foot above the ice on local lakes just
fine. I'm in MN and west WI.
I was dreaming about going to Brodhead. Actually Sun n Fun Is coming up
soon. I'm hoping everybody will come down and see us in the Wood
Workshop.
Dick N.
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Great to hear you're getting up in the winter - at least it's been a little
warmer lately.
Hey - we should talk about Sun-N-Fun. I may have a project for you down th
ere but I'd need to know how to arrange the material shipping an all. Let'
s keep in touch.
Tom B.
From: horzpool@goldengate.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying=2C finally
With all of the cold we have been getting=2C I
finally got out for an hour today. Lots of snow around here=2C about 3+
feet. Air was perfectly smooth=2C which made cruising at 1 foot above the
ice on local lakes just fine. I'm in MN and west WI.
I was dreaming about going to Brodhead.
Actually Sun n Fun Is coming up soon. I'm hoping everybody will come down
and see us in the Wood Workshop.
Dick N.
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Looks very good Gary. Will have to ask questions tomorrow at lunch.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:59:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel tank
Got the fuel tank sealed and assembled today!! .must have done things right,
'cuz I got the required amount of mess on my hands!!
Thanks to the pair of Jack's: Jack Phillips and Jack Textor.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(23 ribs down.)
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| Subject: | Re: Cable tension |
For some reason, I was thinking if you could sing Louie Louie to it you
should be in much closer range then the bung bum bum bum bum bum bum.....bum
bum bum bum bum bum of Mr, Sand Man. Just a guess on my part though so
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsKQXJQwrNc_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsKQXJQwrNc)
please do not archive
Louie Louie oh no said we gotta go
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-8_GI4d2c_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-8_GI4d2c)
John and I couldn't hep my sef
just like the Ethiopian shim sham sand dance born to do it
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXQeWW-Nizs_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXQeWW-Nizs)
In a message dated 12/28/2010 10:47:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cncampbell@windstream.net writes:
I get a haircut once every six months whether I need it or not!!!! But
you're right -- the Bible doesn't cover the subject. No mention of haircuts
except the one Samson received, and it didn't suggest how often this should
happen
Jack Phillips says "Thummm" is the correct one. I believe that would be a
bit less tension than "FWang" and certainly less than "Peeeng". I'm sure
that would be way too tight.
----- Original Message -----
From: _helspersew@aol.com_ (mailto:helspersew@aol.com)
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cable tension
Charles,
Didn't mean to jump on you. We here on the Pietenpol list subscribe to the
notion that there are no stupid questions. I would have appreciated this
thread myself if I had been in your position. In response to your original
query, the compilation of what we have so far is:
"FWANG"
"Peeeng"
"Thmmmm",
SAR method
I myself used "thwang" and it has performed beautifully so far. I would
really like to be able to reveal what method Bernerd used, so we all could
get the last word on this subject, but seeing that I am bound not to open the
"Lost Papers of BHP" canister for another 5 months (once per year), I
cannot. Now keep in mind that this information may not even be in those
papers. Even the Bible is silent on some mundane subjects, such as let's say,
how
often to get a haircut.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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