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1. 05:37 AM - Re: Fw: Where are you, Mike Glasgow? (GliderMike)
2. 07:33 AM - Re: Re: flying, finally (Don Heringhaus)
3. 08:25 AM - Re: Got My Fuselage Started (dgaldrich)
4. 09:22 AM - Re: flying, finally (Bill Church)
5. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: flying, finally (Don Heringhaus)
6. 09:46 AM - carb ice, side note (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
7. 09:56 AM - Re: carb ice, side note (airlion)
8. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: flying, finally (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
9. 10:59 AM - Re: flying, finally (Bill Church)
10. 11:29 AM - Re: Re: flying, finally (Rick Holland)
11. 12:30 PM - Re: Additional questions regarding split axle gear fittings (Bill Church)
12. 06:05 PM - Re: Re: Additional questions regarding split axle gear fittings (Jack)
13. 06:05 PM - W&B article (AmsafetyC@aol.com)
14. 06:51 PM - Re: Re: flying, finally (Dick N)
15. 07:05 PM - Re: Re: flying, finally (Clif Dawson)
16. 08:06 PM - Re: Got My Fuselage Started (coxwelljon)
17. 10:31 PM - Re: Build Log Survey (K5YAC)
18. 10:43 PM - Re: Additional questions regarding split axle gear fittings (K5YAC)
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Where are you, Mike Glasgow? |
Hi Tim, I was in Atlanta for the month of October, but am in Baton Rouge now.
I'm working for Atlantic Southeast Airlines as an A&P at their facility here
in Baton Rouge. I was offered the job in Baton Rouge, before they offered Atlanta,
and they rescinded the Atlanta offer, when they found out the Baton Rouge
manager had called me first. I might have liked Atlanta better, because Aircraft
Spruce has the East Coast store there, and also, there is some paragliding
on the east side of Atlanta, and hang gliding in Chattanooga. The way things
are working out, I am probably better off in Baton Rouge.
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HOMEBUILDER
Will WORK for Spruce
Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| Subject: | Re: flying, finally |
Hey Dick better read up on carb ice its not just cold wx that causes
it???
Temperature drops of 20 =B0C (36=B0F) or more are often encountered
within the carburetor, so ice can build up even when the outside air
temperature is well above freezing. Perhaps paradoxically, cold winter
weather is less prone to icing, since cold air contains much less
moisture. A warm day with high humidity is considered the most likely
scenario for carburetor icing. Since there is less air acceleration
through the carburetor at full-throttle operation, icing is usually not
a problem then.
Carburetor heat uses hot air drawn from the heat exchanger or heat stove
(a metal plate around the exhaust manifold) to raise the temperature in
the venturi section high enough to prevent or remove any ice buildup.
Because hot air is less dense than cold air, engine power will drop when
carburetor heat is used.
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| Subject: | Re: Got My Fuselage Started |
Hi Tucker
When you get the mock-up done, don't forget to sit in it and make airplane noises.
Just make sure no-one can see or hear you. Of course, none of US has EVER
done that.....
Keep it up. You'll have it ready to solo when you turn 16 and that would be no
small accomplishment.
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| Subject: | Re: flying, finally |
Don,
I think if you re-read Dick's post, the point he was making was that carb icing
is actually LESS of a problem in cold (below freezing) winter air.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: flying, finally |
SORRY Dick my bad as the younger folks say ''''I guess I didn't read
your comment thru oh well when your over 50 ?60? 70
Thanks Bill for keeping us old coots in line
Don
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| Subject: | carb ice, side note |
Most certainly, humid days, warmer humid days are prime conditions for carb icing.
Often times I'll land after flying in the summer time and you can actually see
frost on
the outside of the carb throat or tons of water droplets/condensation. If you
put your hand
on it, it feels like the carb was in a fridge ! I apply carb heat far more often
than I probably
should and am surprised I haven't worn out my carb heat cable yet but I'd rather
over-do the heat
that get caught behind with some ice build up.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: carb ice, side note |
Right on Michael. I have my throttle right next to my carb heat cable and
anytime I pull the throttle back the carb heat comes on. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 12:43:54 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: carb ice, side note
CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Most certainly, humid days, warmer humid days are prime conditions for carb
icing.
Often times I'll land after flying in the summer time and you can actually see
frost on
the outside of the carb throat or tons of water droplets/condensation. If you
put your hand
on it, it feels like the carb was in a fridge ! I apply carb heat far more
often than I probably
should and am surprised I haven't worn out my carb heat cable yet but I'd rather
over-do the heat
that get caught behind with some ice build up.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: flying, finally |
Great to hear you are back in the saddle flying again Dick !!!!!
It sure does the soul good to take a nice flight. Lots cheaper than therap
y, counseling, or an ex-wife too ! :)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: flying, finally |
Hey Don, somebody's got to do it! :)
Just kidding.
I aspire to one day become an old coot.
For now, I'll have to settle for being a middle-aged coot.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: flying, finally |
Or a new wife or girlfriend.
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Great to hear you are back in the saddle flying again Dick !!!!!
>
>
> It sure does the soul good to take a nice flight. Lots cheaper than
> therapy, counseling, or an ex-wife too ! J
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Additional questions regarding split axle gear fittings |
Hey Jack,
I'm still having difficulty understanding what you mean by the gear fittings being
"slanted". Can you explain more betterer?
Anyway, regarding the parts you made - they look pretty good to me. I can't see
the cracking you're talking about, so I assume it must be very minor. Probably
very localized at the relief holes. If that's the case, then the cracks will
get swallowed up and repaired by the welds, since the drawings call for a lot
of welding on these little pieces. On the other hand, if the cracking is all
along the 110 degree bend, then you've over-stressed the metal (too small a bend
radius), and you effectively have two pieces rather than one. The assembly
sketch in the drawing DOES look like the side fitting is made in two pieces, but
I think that's just an illusion. The pieces you have made appear to match the
drawings. I'm not really sure why the drawings appear to show welding on the
inside of the bend, though, since it won't really add any strength. I understand
welding on the sides of the tab, but not across the bend, which the drawing
seems to show. For now, I think I'll just chalk that up to a sixteen year-old
kid doing the drawings.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Additional questions regarding split axle gear |
fittings
Bill,
Hope this is betterer. I have two sets of plans and both show the parts
slanted to the left. I think you can see in the attached picture. I was
thinking this was for the curve of the bottom longeron. I made one up
curved and it didn't fit as well as the straight pair I made up. It is two
pieces. Honestly I don't like the design and plan to alter a bit. 110
degrees is too much with any decent radius. The bottom will be .125 4130,
side and tab .090. Now my next question... What is the 1/4" hole for on ONLY
the left front fitting? Thanks for your input!
Back to you,
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 2:29 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Additional questions regarding split
axle gear fittings
Hey Jack,
I'm still having difficulty understanding what you mean by the gear fittings
being "slanted". Can you explain more betterer?
Anyway, regarding the parts you made - they look pretty good to me. I can't
see the cracking you're talking about, so I assume it must be very minor.
Probably very localized at the relief holes. If that's the case, then the
cracks will get swallowed up and repaired by the welds, since the drawings
call for a lot of welding on these little pieces. On the other hand, if the
cracking is all along the 110 degree bend, then you've over-stressed the
metal (too small a bend radius), and you effectively have two pieces rather
than one. The assembly sketch in the drawing DOES look like the side fitting
is made in two pieces, but I think that's just an illusion. The pieces you
have made appear to match the drawings. I'm not really sure why the drawings
appear to show welding on the inside of the bend, though, since it won't
really add any strength. I understand welding on the sides of the tab, but
not across the bend, which the drawing seems to show. For now, I think I'll
just chalk !
that up to a sixteen year-old kid doing the drawings.
Bill C.
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Ryan
Nice job on the article it certainly provokes thought in deciding wing and
gear placement and relationship. So for basic build how would suggest
determining best location at the bare fuze level of construction?
John
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
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| Subject: | Re: flying, finally |
Don
You and others said more clearly what I had intended on. A clear day at
25 degrees is much more prefferable than a day at 50 degrees with haze.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Heringhaus
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying, finally
Hey Dick better read up on carb ice its not just cold wx that causes
it???
Temperature drops of 20 =B0C (36=B0F) or more are often encountered
within the carburetor, so ice can build up even when the outside air
temperature is well above freezing. Perhaps paradoxically, cold winter
weather is less prone to icing, since cold air contains much less
moisture. A warm day with high humidity is considered the most likely
scenario for carburetor icing. Since there is less air acceleration
through the carburetor at full-throttle operation, icing is usually not
a problem then.
Carburetor heat uses hot air drawn from the heat exchanger or heat
stove (a metal plate around the exhaust manifold) to raise the
temperature in the venturi section high enough to prevent or remove any
ice buildup. Because hot air is less dense than cold air, engine power
will drop when carburetor heat is used.
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| Subject: | Re: flying, finally |
This chart may scare the pants off you! :-)
Here's a temp conversion chart to go with it.
It works both ways.
http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Heringhaus
Hey Dick better read up on carb ice its not just cold wx that causes
it???
Perhaps paradoxically, cold winter weather is less prone to icing,
since cold air contains much less moisture. A warm day with high
humidity is considered the most likely scenario for carburetor icing.
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| Subject: | Re: Got My Fuselage Started |
Add to the excitement by putting one of those big square house fans up front to
blow wind in your face. Great for testing your windscreen position.
Keep it up Tucker! You are doing a great job.
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Re: Build Log Survey |
My link is in my signature. The software was $50 and if you are a digital photo
person it is a no brainer. This type of software not only allows you to share
your progress with family and friends, but it keeps a running tally on your
time, materials, expenses, vendors, helpers, contacts, etc. All of it in a database
that can be saved and backed up. No, you can't shove notes in the back
of this "three-ring binder", but you will likely accumulate a variety of paper
and electronic notes during the build process. Make life easy and keep an electronic
log. One more really nice thing... when it comes time for inspections,
the electronic log prints out in an organized and easy to read format.
I have a great Uncle that worked in the aerospace industry... he loves keeping
up with my log on the web.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Additional questions regarding split axle gear fittings |
Please, no PMs... "litter" the list... others are interested too.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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