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1. 05:03 AM - Re: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank (womenfly2)
2. 05:06 AM - Re: How about this idea? (womenfly2)
3. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: How about this idea? (Brett Phillips)
4. 07:54 AM - Rib question (tdudley@umn.edu)
5. 10:58 AM - Re: Rib question (Gary Boothe)
6. 11:06 AM - Re: Rib question (Scott Knowlton)
7. 11:24 AM - Re: Rib question (Ryan Mueller)
8. 12:06 PM - Re: Rib question (Billy McCaskill)
9. 02:03 PM - Re: Rib question (Charles Campbell)
10. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: Rib question (Charles Campbell)
11. 02:34 PM - Re: Rib question (Charles Campbell)
12. 02:39 PM - Re: Rib question (tdudley@umn.edu)
13. 03:55 PM - Re: Rib question (Gary Boothe)
14. 03:58 PM - Re: Re: Rib question (Gary Boothe)
15. 06:01 PM - Re: Rib question (Kringle)
16. 06:07 PM - Re: Rib question (tdudley@umn.edu)
17. 06:10 PM - Re: Rib question (tdudley@umn.edu)
18. 06:49 PM - wax solvent and trim tab size (Douwe Blumberg)
19. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: Rib question (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
20. 07:37 PM - Trim control (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
21. 07:39 PM - Brace cables, pulleys, wing supports (Michael Perez)
22. 07:51 PM - Re: wax solvent and trim tab size (Rick Holland)
23. 09:41 PM - Re: Rib question (tdudley@umn.edu)
24. 10:05 PM - Re: Rib question (kevinpurtee)
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Subject: | Re: cloth used for Fiberglass fuel tank |
Pilot78 ... see my Web Site.
Cheers.
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Subject: | Re: How about this idea? |
Aluminum tube with riveted gusset plates ...... ?
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Subject: | Re: How about this idea? |
I do believe that some of these folks are beginning to show signs of cabin
fever...
Perhaps a foam and glass Piet would be best? (Cough, Cough, splutter,
choke!)
Brett
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Simple question, but need some help. I originally was planning on building the
FGM wing or perhaps the one part wing which I understood as having 28 ribs.
I've reconsidered and will be building the 3-piece wing and am waiting for the
plans I ordered from Don Pietenpol.
I have 30 ribs completed (2 more than were needed for the one-piece wing). Is
this enough for the 3-piece wing or do I need to make a few more?
For reference, I did build the rib from the full-size plan I received from Don
Pietenpol last September.
Thanks for any input.
Tom
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Yes, Tom, that's the correct count, however, I find it difficult to believe
that you built 30 ribs since September. It's been almost 3 years and I'm
only on #24...!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(23 ribs down.)
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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: FW: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
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tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
Simple question, but need some help. I originally was planning on building
the FGM wing or perhaps the one part wing which I understood as having 28
ribs. I've reconsidered and will be building the 3-piece wing and am
waiting for the plans I ordered from Don Pietenpol.
I have 30 ribs completed (2 more than were needed for the one-piece wing).
Is this enough for the 3-piece wing or do I need to make a few more?
For reference, I did build the rib from the full-size plan I received from
Don Pietenpol last September.
Thanks for any input.
Tom
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
I just finished my ribs and the count is 14 per wing plus two full ribs in the
center section plus an additional two tail ribs and one nose rib for the center
section. Your 30 full ribs is fine but you need those nose and tail ribs eventually.
Scott Knowlton
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From: tdudley@umn.edu
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
Simple question, but need some help. I originally was planning on building the
FGM wing or perhaps the one part wing which I understood as having 28 ribs. I've
reconsidered and will be building the 3-piece wing and am waiting for the plans
I ordered from Don Pietenpol.
I have 30 ribs completed (2 more than were needed for the one-piece wing). Is this
enough for the 3-piece wing or do I need to make a few more?
For reference, I did build the rib from the full-size plan I received from Don
Pietenpol last September.
Thanks for any input.
Tom
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
He must not have a kitchen... ;P
Ryan Mueller
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Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
Yes, Tom, that's the correct count, however, I find it difficult to believe
that you built 30 ribs since September. It's been almost 3 years and I'm
only on #24...!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(23 ribs down.)
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From: Gboothe5 [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: FW: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
Simple question, but need some help. I originally was planning on building
the FGM wing or perhaps the one part wing which I understood as having 28
ribs. I've reconsidered and will be building the 3-piece wing and am
waiting for the plans I ordered from Don Pietenpol.
I have 30 ribs completed (2 more than were needed for the one-piece wing).
Is this enough for the 3-piece wing or do I need to make a few more?
For reference, I did build the rib from the full-size plan I received from
Don Pietenpol last September.
Thanks for any input.
Tom
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
You might want to build a few more, just to hang in the den or the hangar. Ribs
are just cool to look at and they're great conversation starters.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
I just went to the shop and counted. I have 31 built, 14 for each wing
section and 3 for the center section. If you plan on putting a fuel tank in
the centersection you will need 2 false ribs for the aft section (behind the
rear spar) and one false nose rib in the place of the center rib of the
centersection. Actually, the 3-piece wing plan covers mainly the center
section and how the center section is connected to the wing sections. It
does have dimensions of the wing spar and plans for the spar butt joint
straps. Lots of luck. See you at Brodhead, the Mecca of Pietenpols. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: <tdudley@umn.edu>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
>
> Simple question, but need some help. I originally was planning on
> building the FGM wing or perhaps the one part wing which I understood as
> having 28 ribs. I've reconsidered and will be building the 3-piece wing
> and am waiting for the plans I ordered from Don Pietenpol.
>
> I have 30 ribs completed (2 more than were needed for the one-piece wing).
> Is this enough for the 3-piece wing or do I need to make a few more?
>
> For reference, I did build the rib from the full-size plan I received from
> Don Pietenpol last September.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327883#327883
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
Hey! That's an idea. Think I'll plan on putting in a centersection tank,
build the false ribs, and hang my 31st one on the wall of the den. My wife
would have an absolute conniption fit. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib question
>
> You might want to build a few more, just to hang in the den or the hangar.
> Ribs are just cool to look at and they're great conversation starters.
>
> --------
> Billy McCaskill
> Urbana, IL
> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
>
>
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>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327920#327920
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
Gary, I averaged one rib per day when I was in the rib mode. Of course I'm
retired (retarded). I had kind of an assembly line going. First, I took
yesterday's rib out of the jig, took the top rib cap for today's rib off the
prebending jig and put it in the rib jig, then the bottom rib cap, then cut
the connecting members per a prearranged plan, glued the members and
installed the top-side gussets (precut). I then put the gussets on the back
of yesterday's rib. Last I took a rib cap out of the soaker and put it in
the prebending jig. Last I put another rib cap in the soaker, left the shop
and closed the door. It was really the most enjoyable part of the project.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
>
> Yes, Tom, that's the correct count, however, I find it difficult to
> believe
> that you built 30 ribs since September. It's been almost 3 years and I'm
> only on #24...!
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, Ca.
> Pietenpol
> WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> (23 ribs down.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gboothe5 [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:50 AM
> To: gboothe5@comcast.net
> Subject: FW: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> tdudley@umn.edu
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:52 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
>
>
> Simple question, but need some help. I originally was planning on
> building
> the FGM wing or perhaps the one part wing which I understood as having 28
> ribs. I've reconsidered and will be building the 3-piece wing and am
> waiting for the plans I ordered from Don Pietenpol.
>
> I have 30 ribs completed (2 more than were needed for the one-piece wing).
> Is this enough for the 3-piece wing or do I need to make a few more?
>
> For reference, I did build the rib from the full-size plan I received from
> Don Pietenpol last September.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327883#327883
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
Thanks for the insight. I'm right now soaking an additional two capstrips to bring
the total to 32. Hard to believe how much fun cutting and glueing wood together
can be.
Gary, each night I read a chapter of the "Little House on the Prairie" books to
my little girl. Last night there was a poem in the chapter:
"Lost, between sunrise and sunset,
One golden hour, set with sixty diamond minutes.
No reward is offered, for it is gone forever."
I don't know who came up with it (my background is more science and medicine, not
literature), but it kind of gave me a boost of inspiration to keep building.
My goal was one rib per day like some others have posted. It took me longer,
but it sure is fun to keep plugging away.
Again, thanks for the help.
Tom
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Charles,
Seems like a great plan...worked good! Me? Takes 2 hours per rib, but I
found them incredibly monotonous, thinking the whole time about other stuff!
I now have the tail ready for cover, the fuselage and center section ready
for cover, and almost ready to run the engine on the airframe...but those
remaining 7 ribs just keep waiting!
Now, as Billy suggested, I need to build an extra one just for gee-whiz!
Heck, that's going to add another 3 months to my build time....
See you at Brodhead! (I'll be the guy in the ball cap with a camera)
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(23 ribs down.)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
<cncampbell@windstream.net>
Gary, I averaged one rib per day when I was in the rib mode. Of course I'm
retired (retarded). I had kind of an assembly line going. First, I took
yesterday's rib out of the jig, took the top rib cap for today's rib off the
prebending jig and put it in the rib jig, then the bottom rib cap, then cut
the connecting members per a prearranged plan, glued the members and
installed the top-side gussets (precut). I then put the gussets on the back
of yesterday's rib. Last I took a rib cap out of the soaker and put it in
the prebending jig. Last I put another rib cap in the soaker, left the shop
and closed the door. It was really the most enjoyable part of the project.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
>
> Yes, Tom, that's the correct count, however, I find it difficult to
> believe
> that you built 30 ribs since September. It's been almost 3 years and I'm
> only on #24...!
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, Ca.
> Pietenpol
> WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> (23 ribs down.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gboothe5 [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:50 AM
> To: gboothe5@comcast.net
> Subject: FW: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> tdudley@umn.edu
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:52 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rib question
>
>
> Simple question, but need some help. I originally was planning on
> building
> the FGM wing or perhaps the one part wing which I understood as having 28
> ribs. I've reconsidered and will be building the 3-piece wing and am
> waiting for the plans I ordered from Don Pietenpol.
>
> I have 30 ribs completed (2 more than were needed for the one-piece wing).
> Is this enough for the 3-piece wing or do I need to make a few more?
>
> For reference, I did build the rib from the full-size plan I received from
> Don Pietenpol last September.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327883#327883
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
Tom,
I admire you for working on your dream while still raising young-uns! You
make a great example...
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(23 ribs down.)
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib question
Thanks for the insight. I'm right now soaking an additional two capstrips
to bring the total to 32. Hard to believe how much fun cutting and glueing
wood together can be.
Gary, each night I read a chapter of the "Little House on the Prairie" books
to my little girl. Last night there was a poem in the chapter:
"Lost, between sunrise and sunset,
One golden hour, set with sixty diamond minutes.
No reward is offered, for it is gone forever."
I don't know who came up with it (my background is more science and
medicine, not literature), but it kind of gave me a boost of inspiration to
keep building. My goal was one rib per day like some others have posted.
It took me longer, but it sure is fun to keep plugging away.
Again, thanks for the help.
Tom
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
I'm now about half way on the ribs. My question is with ailerons. Do you just
build the entire rib section then cut out the ailerons? What about the center
sections....do you build special ribs or do most just cut standard ribs apart?
--------
John
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
Gary,
Thanks for the kind words. Bedtime is at 8 o'clock and if there's anything residency
taught me, it's to live on 4-5 hours sleep. My Piet is getting built when
everyone in my house sleeps.
Tom
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
Kringle,
As I understand it, you build the wings on the spars first, then cut the ailerons
out. Not certain about the center section, but I guess I'm planning on building
full ribs and cutting them out.
Tom
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Subject: | wax solvent and trim tab size |
Hey all,
Two questions.
Firstly, I glassed my cowling over a waxed mold and now want to add a layer
and glass some stiffners to the inside, but there is a fair amount of wax
residue on the inside of the cowling from the mold. I've tried mineral
spirits, MEK and Formbys furniture refinisher and nothing really removes it
well. Was going to get some acetone, but thought I"d send it out to see
what you guys would suggest.
Secondly. What do you guys think is the minimal size a trim tab on the
elevator could be to work? Don't think it takes much.
Thanks,
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
Hey Tom....
-
Lets see some photos of your progress! Sound like you have been very busy w
ith all this cold weather!
-
Ken H
Hawley,MN
-
--- On Sat, 1/22/11, tdudley@umn.edu <tdudley@umn.edu> wrote:
From: tdudley@umn.edu <tdudley@umn.edu>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib question
Gary,
Thanks for the kind words.- Bedtime is at 8 o'clock and if there's anythi
ng residency taught me, it's to live on 4-5 hours sleep.- My Piet is gett
ing built when everyone in my house sleeps.
Tom
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Can anyone tell me the amount of travel needed for the trim control? I am a
dding a trim control knob under my seat that is connected to my bell crank
for trimming out the plane for level flight. Photos are forth coming. Just
need to know how much adjustment is needed for nose up and nose down.
-
Ken H
Halwey, MN
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Subject: | Brace cables, pulleys, wing supports |
I have a few questions in regard to the center section.
I am wondering why most have changed from the as drawn support cables for the center
section to the streamline supports from the top of the center section to
the top motor mounts? I am leaning towards using the 3/32" cables.
Anyone have rub issues with the cables on the center section pulleys...side load
rubbing? It appears that with the cabanes vertical, the cables and pulleys look
fine. But when I rake the center section back, the cables then rub on the
pulley sideways. (side load) I do not have the cables in, I am running string
for now and just checking how it all goes together.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: wax solvent and trim tab size |
I measured tabs on several Cessnas and Pipers and ended up with an average
of 12 x 3.5". Haven't flown yet so I can't say how it will work.
rick
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> wrote:
>
>
> Secondly. What do you guys think is the minimal size a trim tab on the
> elevator could be to work? Don=92t think it takes much.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Douwe
>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
Hey Ken,
Hope your winter has been going well. Kind of hard to stomach the -16 degree weather
we've had the last few days. Kind of cold in my garage so I've had to
move to the basement.
I've added a few pictures--nothing that hasn't been seen before dozens of times
on this forum, but since you've asked.
Maybe when the weather warms up I can swing up and take a look at your progress.
I'm still interested in that Corvair engine. . .
Tom
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Subject: | Re: Rib question |
Very nice, Tom.
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
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Austin/Georgetown, TX
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