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1. 12:15 AM - Re: Re: clear doped look (Clif Dawson)
2. 12:46 AM - Re: spar varnish (Clif Dawson)
3. 01:26 AM - Re: Re: Elevator travel (Clif Dawson)
4. 03:31 AM - Re: Re: Re: Piet Directory (Jack)
5. 03:45 AM - Re: Re: Piet Directory (Jack)
6. 03:56 AM - down to the fuselage (Dangerous Dave)
7. 04:14 AM - Re: down to the fuselage (Jack)
8. 04:48 AM - Re: Elevator travel (Jerry Dotson)
9. 05:19 AM - Re: down to the fuselage (Jerry Dotson)
10. 05:55 AM - Re: down to the fuselage (Dangerous Dave)
11. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (TOM STINEMETZE)
12. 06:55 AM - Re: Re: down to the fuselage (Charles Campbell)
13. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Charles Campbell)
14. 07:13 AM - Room For Bungee Cord (Michael Perez)
15. 07:31 AM - Re: Small World (TriScout)
16. 07:40 AM - Re: Shad's Piet... (shad bell)
17. 07:41 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (TOM STINEMETZE)
18. 07:48 AM - Re: Room For Bungee Cord (Jack Phillips)
19. 07:55 AM - "The Aviators" Shad's Piet... (Jim Markle)
20. 08:02 AM - Re: Room For Bungee Cord (Michael Perez)
21. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: clear doped look (Rick Holland)
22. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Rick Holland)
23. 09:52 AM - Re: down to the fuselage (K5YAC)
24. 10:00 AM - Re: Shad's Piet... (K5YAC)
25. 10:10 AM - Re: leading edge plywood (K5YAC)
26. 10:32 AM - Re: Small World (dgaldrich)
27. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: down to the fuselage (Charles Campbell)
28. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Charles Campbell)
29. 10:42 AM - The Aviators Link (Jack)
30. 10:49 AM - After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign up... (aerocarjake)
31. 11:10 AM - Re: After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign up... (K5YAC)
32. 11:26 AM - UPDATE and return to life! (Mark Roberts)
33. 11:44 AM - Re: UPDATE and return to life! (TOM STINEMETZE)
34. 12:10 PM - Re: UPDATE and return to life! (Michael Groah)
35. 12:11 PM - Re: UPDATE and return to life! (Gboothe5)
36. 12:19 PM - Re: Covering Processes (DOMIT)
37. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: Small World (Rick Holland)
38. 12:55 PM - Re: After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign up... (Rick Holland)
39. 12:55 PM - Re: After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign up... (Jack Phillips)
40. 01:14 PM - Re: UPDATE and return to life! (Rick Holland)
41. 02:59 PM - Re: Small World (TriScout)
42. 04:45 PM - Re: carbs (skellytown flyer)
43. 04:49 PM - need help with wiring (Douwe Blumberg)
44. 05:04 PM - Re: After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign up... (aerocarjake)
45. 05:33 PM - Re: Re: Piet Directory (Dick N)
46. 06:12 PM - steel fuselage and engine weight (MPB)
47. 06:25 PM - Re: steel fuselage and engine weight (Jack Phillips)
48. 06:55 PM - Re: Piet Directory (kevinpurtee)
49. 08:11 PM - Re: UPDATE and return to life! (Mark Roberts)
50. 09:11 PM - Re: Room For Bungee Cord (Greg Cardinal)
51. 09:41 PM - Re: need help with wiring (Peter W Johnson)
52. 11:35 PM - Re: Room For Bungee Cord (Clif Dawson)
53. 11:47 PM - Re: UPDATE and return to life! (Billy McCaskill)
54. 11:50 PM - Re: Re: down to the fuselage (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: clear doped look |
A few years back, on another list we got into a discussion
on safety and the "fact" that flying is dangerous. We went
back and forth about car and plane safety until one guy,
who apparently used to work in insurance came up with
some sobering statistics proving how dangerous flying
is. Having a bit of arithmetical skill I crunched his numbers.
Here's the results;
Sometime within a certain number of flying years I WILL
die in an airplane. The number you ask? Six hundred and
two!
I don't think I'll worry too much. What do you think?
Clif
"It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never
beginning to live."
~ Marcus Aurelius
>
> "You will, in fact, die. However, it probably won't be today, and it
> probably won't happen in this airplane. Actually, it probably won't
> happen for many, many more years. Enjoy your flight."
> Now, back to sniffing MEK in AZ.
> do not archive
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
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| Subject: | Re: spar varnish |
The main blockage with traditional spar varnish is the mirror
quality of the gloss. If the UV can't get past the mirror, it
can't do anything. A corollary to this is you can't touch it
once it's applied. No sanding, polishing etc. Just wash it
often as any dust or dirt degrades the mirrorness ( Did I
just say that?! I must have spent too much time around
my daughters!! ). :-)
Clif
Rick,
I didn't exhaustively ck, but I seemed to find that the satin or flat
spar varnishes were not as strong in the UV blocking department.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator travel |
Why aren't we out there measuring real life airplanes?
I'm presently renting an early Citabria. It is aerobatic
certified. Although it does have a longer,wider wing,
it is about the same length as a Piet. I haven't measured
the tail surfaces but the elevators appear to have a little
less area than my Piet and they appear to have about
20 or so in deflection. The wheels are a little ahead
of the wing LE in level stance. The engine is a 100hp
O-235. ( I said it was early. :-) )
Take-off is advance throttle and stick together. the tail
comes right up immediately. Landing the thing doesn't
take full rear stick until it quits flying either.
Clif
> They recommend 20 degrees up and 20 degrees down for the elevators.
> Mathematically, that works out to just over 6" up and 6" down.
>
> Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Directory |
Vic, thanks for your note, I didn't receive the file. Please try again and
sent to my home address jack@textors.com. I'm also sending this template to
your personally.
Jack
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Directory
My name is Vic Groah, I have been building a Piet with may son Mike for the
last three years. He is listed in the file. I would like to be as well. I
added my name to the enclosed file. I don't know if that is the right way
to do it. Thanks Vic.
> From: jack@textors.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Directory
> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 19:59:39 -0600
>
> Ray, to be included in the list and receive a copy of the listing fill out
> the attached file and return to me at jack@textors.com.
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:53 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Directory
>
> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>
> I must have missed something, where is the list? Is it sent upon request?
>
> Ray Krause
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Directory
>
>
> > <cncampbell@windstream.net>
> >
> > Got the list OK now. Thanks.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 12:02 PM
> > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Directory
> >
> >
> >>
> >> You bet!
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gtche98
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:10 AM
> >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Directory
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks again Jack for taking the time to put this together, and then
keep
>
> >> it
> >> updated. That is the hardest part.
> >>
> >> What a great resource!
> >>
> >> Do not archive
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Gary Wilson
> >> Greenville Wisconsin
> >> gtche98 (at) gmail ((dot)) com
> >> Planning Phase
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
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> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329716#329716
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Directory |
Kevin thanks for the kind thoughts! I hope it can be a great resource; we
now have 94 individuals listed. We will be adding a new feature in a couple
of days, a converted listing output in a multiple page PDF which will be
more readable. Mark Chouinard has been kind enough to take the completed
list, convert to Access and generate a PDF. We will be sending an updated
listing to all that shared their info every few months. The first one
should be out mid-week.
Thanks,
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Directory
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Thanks for doing all this, Jack. I looked through all the Texans and I have
met, personally, all but one. He's brand new so he hasn't come to visit
yet. He's got an RV, though, so I bet I'll see him when back from AZ next
month.
I know a bunch of those other folks, too:).
I love this stuff.
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | down to the fuselage |
Howdy,I am finally down to covering the fuselage,So much for being done by my birthday.Maybe
the end of april.dave
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Covering Piet
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| Subject: | down to the fuselage |
Happy Birthday Dave! For being so dangerous, I spotted a fire extinguisher
and eye-wash station in your shop, what gives?
Jack
Do not archive!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dangerous
Dave
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: down to the fuselage
Howdy,I am finally down to covering the fuselage,So much for being done by
my birthday.Maybe the end of april.dave
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Covering Piet
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator travel |
I have a Luscombe 8 manual and it has the elevator set at 29 degrees up and down.
I set my Piet at 30 degrees each way.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
Looks like the differential in the background is a bit heavy duty for your Pietenpol
[Wink]
The cover job is looking good.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
figured I use the rear end on the Travel Air 4000 for rough landings and the fire
extinguisher to put out the brake fire if I have one.And thats not only an
eyewash station its my shower,kinda crude up here at 9000'.B'day is the 26th-thanks
Jack dave
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Covering Piet
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Nails, bolts - it doesn't matter; if they are not secured properly they
will work themselves back out. I had quarter inch bolts in an outside
arbor secured with washers and nuts (not lock nuts.) The whole assembly
is secured to the ground on concrete pilings. Yet, in two years all of
the bolts had worked themselves out to a degree. The cause is vibration
created by the wind which will also be the main culprit on an airplane.
Note that aircraft grade nails are epoxy coated - not just for rust
protection but also to help secure them into the wood - kind of like a
decking nail. Friction heat from driving the nail will soften the epoxy
just enough to let it bond with the wood.
Stinemetze
>>> Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> 2/5/2011 6:30 PM >>>
not an urban legend, they WILL work themselves back out.
Gene
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
All great people were born in February. Mine is the 18th. Chuck (Do not
archive)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: down to the fuselage
>
> figured I use the rear end on the Travel Air 4000 for rough landings and
> the fire extinguisher to put out the brake fire if I have one.And thats
> not only an eyewash station its my shower,kinda crude up here at
> 9000'.B'day is the 26th-thanks Jack dave
>
> --------
> Covering Piet
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329949#329949
>
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Tom, I drilled small holes to make my nails go in truer and easier.
Would that defeat the purpose of the epoxy coating?
----- Original Message -----
From: TOM STINEMETZE
To: pietenpol-list
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
Nails, bolts - it doesn't matter; if they are not secured properly
they will work themselves back out. I had quarter inch bolts in an
outside arbor secured with washers and nuts (not lock nuts.) The whole
assembly is secured to the ground on concrete pilings. Yet, in two
years all of the bolts had worked themselves out to a degree. The cause
is vibration created by the wind which will also be the main culprit on
an airplane. Note that aircraft grade nails are epoxy coated - not just
for rust protection but also to help secure them into the wood - kind of
like a decking nail. Friction heat from driving the nail will soften
the epoxy just enough to let it bond with the wood.
Stinemetze
>>> Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> 2/5/2011 6:30 PM >>>
not an urban legend, they WILL work themselves back out.
Gene
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| Subject: | Room For Bungee Cord |
On average, how much space is needed between the landing gear ash block and wheel/brake
assembly for the bungee cords to lay on the axle? Also, are the bungee
cord wraps laid out only side by side to each other, (single layer...more space
needed) or are they stacked up on top of one another? (less space needed on
axle) Does it matter?
I am getting close to laying out my axle for the various components that get welded
to it, and would like to know how much room is needed for the bungees.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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..speaking of "small world"... I work with this guy that has the same last name
as yours. We fly cargo all over the world. His dad built a Pietenpol once. Who
woulda thunk it? He goes by Steve though... nah... couldn't be.
larry
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| Subject: | Re: Shad's Piet... |
Jim, What is The Aviators?- A new show?- I will have to do a google sea
rch I guess.
-
Shad
--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Shad's Piet...
>
Just saw a (VERY quick) shot of the Bell's Piet on "The Aviators"....
Great show and neat to see a familiar Air Camper on my TV!!!
JM
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Just guessing Charles but, since it is friction that causes the epoxy to
bond, anything that reduces the friction would also reduce the chance that
the epoxy would get hot enough to bond. On the up side, though, it would
also make the nails much easier to remove AND greatly reduce the chances
of splitting those quarter inch thick spar caps that you are nailing into.
Stinemetze
>>> "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> 2/7/2011 8:55 AM >>>
Tom, I drilled small holes to make my nails go in truer and easier. Would
that defeat the purpose of the epoxy coating?
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| Subject: | Room For Bungee Cord |
Just measured mine (I happen to be in the hangar at Smith Mountain Lake
this
morning). 2.25=94 between the brake disc and the V block on each side,
which
allows room for 3 wraps of =BD=94 bungee (and you might be able to
squeeze in a
fourth wrap).
The bungess will wrap the way they want to, and will go side to side if
possible. If you try to wrap them on top of each other and there is
room
for them to go side to side, they will do so at the first opportunity,
releasing most of the tension you so laboriously put in them.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Perez
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Room For Bungee Cord
On average, how much space is needed between the landing gear ash block
and
wheel/brake assembly for the bungee cords to lay on the axle? Also, are
the
bungee cord wraps laid out only side by side to each other, (single
layer...more space needed) or are they stacked up on top of one another?
(less space needed on axle) Does it matter?
I am getting close to laying out my axle for the various components that
get
welded to it, and would like to know how much room is needed for the
bungees.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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It's a really good aviation related half hour program shown on local PBS stations.
In our area, it's on at 8:30am on Sundays and (I think) sometime during the
week, Wednesday afternoon maybe.
Produced by a Canadian production company so there's a lot about those fellows
up north. They interviewed some of the folks building a Piet wing at Oshkosh.
Interesting episode.
Mark C. told me about it and I'm glad he did, I've yet to see any advertising anywhere....
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: shad bell
Sent: Feb 7, 2011 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Shad's Piet...
Jim, What is The Aviators? A new show? I will have to do a google search I guess.
Shad
--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Shad's Piet...
Just saw a (VERY quick) shot of the Bell's Piet on "The Aviators"....
Great show and neat to see a familiar Air Camper=======================
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Room For Bungee Cord |
Thanks Jack. That's a good number to start planning with.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: clear doped look |
I'll worry more about getting killed by lightening or terrorist attack.
rick the infidel future piet driver
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> A few years back, on another list we got into a discussion
> on safety and the "fact" that flying is dangerous. We went
> back and forth about car and plane safety until one guy,
> who apparently used to work in insurance came up with
> some sobering statistics proving how dangerous flying
> is. Having a bit of arithmetical skill I crunched his numbers.
> Here's the results;
> Sometime within a certain number of flying years I WILL
> die in an airplane. The number you ask? Six hundred and
> two!
> I don't think I'll worry too much. What do you think?
>
> Clif
> "It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never
> beginning to live."
> ~ Marcus Aurelius
>
>
>> "You will, in fact, die. However, it probably won't be today, and it
>> probably won't happen in this airplane. Actually, it probably won't happen
>> for many, many more years. Enjoy your flight."
>> Now, back to sniffing MEK in AZ.
>>
> > do not archive
>
>> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>>
>
>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
I used 1/4" staples and pulled em out.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:33 AM, TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
> *Nails, bolts - it doesn't matter; if they are not secured properly they
> will work themselves back out. I had quarter inch bolts in an outside arbor
> secured with washers and nuts (not lock nuts.) The whole assembly is
> secured to the ground on concrete pilings. Yet, in two years all of the
> bolts had worked themselves out to a degree. The cause is vibration created
> by the wind which will also be the main culprit on an airplane. Note that
> aircraft grade nails are epoxy coated - not just for rust protection but
> also to help secure them into the wood - kind of like a decking nail.
> Friction heat from driving the nail will soften the epoxy just enough to let
> it bond with the wood.*
> **
> *Stinemetze*
>
>
> >>> Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> 2/5/2011 6:30 PM >>>
> not an urban legend, they WILL work themselves back out.
>
> Gene
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
Never mind that Jesus guy, right?
Chuck Campbell wrote:
> All great people were born in February. Mine is the 18th. Chuck (Do not
> archive)
>
> ---
[Laughing]
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| Subject: | Re: Shad's Piet... |
I know you asked Jim, but "The Aviators" is a program that airs on PBS, Sunday
mornings at 8:30. It has been on the air since last fall... a pretty good program
about general, commercial and military aviation. They cover a variety of
interesting topics... this week they were talking about homebuilding and featured
a group working on a Piet wing to describe some of the woodworking aspects.
Sponsored by EAA, AOPA and others... always a good show.
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
I safety wired all my nails. [Rolling Eyes]
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Several years ago, I was jumpseating on an American 727 (sorta dates things) and
introduced myself to the captain. His reply was "No, I'M Dave Aldrich!!" It
really was, even still have his business card.
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Well, it's pretty certain He wasn't born in December!!! Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 12:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: down to the fuselage
>
> Never mind that Jesus guy, right?
>
>
> Chuck Campbell wrote:
>> All great people were born in February. Mine is the 18th. Chuck (Do not
>> archive)
>>
>> ---
> [Laughing]
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330000#330000
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
That must have been some TINY safety wire! Don't archive unless you want
to.
----- Original Message -----
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
>
> I safety wired all my nails. [Rolling Eyes]
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330005#330005
>
>
>
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| Subject: | The Aviators Link |
http://www.theaviators.tv/TheAviators.TV_-_Home.html
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign up... |
Howdy List...
THANKS for all the great posts I have read over the last several years - thought
I'd join the conversation.
I started my Pietenpol a little over two years ago and yesterday I moved it out
of the shop with the engine mounted for the first time. Since I am building my
Piet in a one-car garage/workshop, it works out great to move the fuselage over
to the next "bay" so I have room to fabricate the parts. My temporary landing
gear lets me move it around like a wheelbarrow until I fabricate the actual
flight-worthy undercarriage.
I have attached my most recent photo (from yesterday - a real "super" day in more
ways than one) and below is the link to my project on the ROTEC engine webpage.
http://www.rotecengines.com/Projects/JakeSchultz.html
Glad to have chatted with many of you offline. I look forward to this continued
Pietenpol adventure with many of you as well...
Jake
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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up...
Wow and Neat-o! Welcome to the list Jake!
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| Subject: | UPDATE and return to life! |
Hi All!
Well, in the pursute of building a dream, life happens. I began my
quest of building the Piet a year and a half ago, while I was employed
and enjoying life. 2 months later, a lay off that lasted 1 year and 3
months occurred and I bowed out of the project until it made sence to
buy epoxy and wood over food and toilet paper... (somethings just
can't be postponed, and the Sears catalog isn't autoshipped
anymore...).
Well, about 6 weeks ago I signed a contract that is beginning to
actually send money to me, and I am able to begin to wave the flame of
the dream back to life. It will be another couple of months before I
can justify the time I need to begin making sawdust, but I had to log
on and let some of the fine folks I have met here know I am coming
back to life... :o)
To that end, I HAVE to share where we'll be moving this week... First,
the readers digest version of what's up: No income=no house
payment=lose house=need to rent (and celebrate, as I HATED our current
house... Gated community, no privacy, not big enough to build plane
comfortably)=gotta move.... Got new job JUST in time (who rent's to
unemployed no-income for a year and 3 months family?)=cash flow=look
for perfect house=found one (the only one that actually called me back
in earnest)=UNREAL side benefit....
OK, now that that's over, here's the cool stuff I've wanted to share
with those that know me on the list... The place comes with a BARN
that has a concrete floor and is 2 stories tall! (Pictures attached).
I have full access to the barn, and it is big enough to build 2 planes
at once... This is no animal critter barn, but an airplane building
barn! When I saw it, I tried not to let it effect my decision to move
there. If the rest wasn't right, the deal would be over... BUT, it all
fell into place perfectly, and this week we move to 'the country'
where I will begin to help mulch my wife's garden with Spruce and
Poplar sawdust!
More as I finally develop a web-log to build my Build History (any
suggestion greatly appreciated...) and pictures will be forthcoming.
Here's the pic's I took of the Barn when I took my wife out to show
her the house for the first time... Woo Hoo! (Oh, and solar panels on
the house feed the meter here BACKWARDS so I have no electrical
expense... Life is good...! :o)
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ALL RIGHT, Mark! We're pulling for you man.
Stinemetze
>>> Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> 2/7/2011 1:21 PM >>>
Here's the pic's I took of the Barn when I took my wife out to show
her the house for the first time... Woo Hoo! (Oh, and solar panels on
the house feed the meter here BACKWARDS so I have no electrical
expense... Life is good...! :o)
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| Subject: | Re: UPDATE and return to life! |
That's great to hear Mark. Glad you're climbing back up and getting back on your
Piet. If I don't get to see you before then I hope you can come to the West
Coast Pietenpol Gathering June 4th. (I'll get an info sheet sent out soon).
Mike Groah
Tulare Ca
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> Well, in the pursute of building a dream, life happens. I began my
> quest of building the Piet a year and a half ago, while I was employed
> and enjoying life. 2 months later, a lay off that lasted 1 year and 3
> months occurred and I bowed out of the project until it made sence to
> buy epoxy and wood over food and toilet paper... (somethings just
> can't be postponed, and the Sears catalog isn't autoshipped
> anymore...).
>
> Well, about 6 weeks ago I signed a contract that is beginning to
> actually send money to me, and I am able to begin to wave the flame of
> the dream back to life. It will be another couple of months before I
> can justify the time I need to begin making sawdust, but I had to log
> on and let some of the fine folks I have met here know I am coming
> back to life... :o)
>
> To that end, I HAVE to share where we'll be moving this week... First,
> the readers digest version of what's up: No income=no house
> payment=lose house=need to rent (and celebrate, as I HATED our current
> house... Gated community, no privacy, not big enough to build plane
> comfortably)=gotta move.... Got new job JUST in time (who rent's to
> unemployed no-income for a year and 3 months family?)=cash flow=look
> for perfect house=found one (the only one that actually called me back
> in earnest)=UNREAL side benefit....
>
> OK, now that that's over, here's the cool stuff I've wanted to share
> with those that know me on the list... The place comes with a BARN
> that has a concrete floor and is 2 stories tall! (Pictures attached).
> I have full access to the barn, and it is big enough to build 2 planes
> at once... This is no animal critter barn, but an airplane building
> barn! When I saw it, I tried not to let it effect my decision to move
> there. If the rest wasn't right, the deal would be over... BUT, it all
> fell into place perfectly, and this week we move to 'the country'
> where I will begin to help mulch my wife's garden with Spruce and
> Poplar sawdust!
>
> More as I finally develop a web-log to build my Build History (any
> suggestion greatly appreciated...) and pictures will be forthcoming.
>
> Here's the pic's I took of the Barn when I took my wife out to show
> her the house for the first time... Woo Hoo! (Oh, and solar panels on
> the house feed the meter here BACKWARDS so I have no electrical
> expense... Life is good...! :o)
> <P1000003resized.jpg>
> <P1000015resized.jpg>
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Mark,
Very good news!! Your priorities are in place...you're focused on the barn,
not the house! Looking forward to seeing pics of that hi-wazoo rib jig being
put to work...
Gary Boothe
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: UPDATE and return to life!
Hi All!
Well, in the pursute of building a dream, life happens. I began my quest of
building the Piet a year and a half ago, while I was employed and enjoying
life. 2 months later, a lay off that lasted 1 year and 3 months occurred and
I bowed out of the project until it made sence to buy epoxy and wood over
food and toilet paper... (somethings just can't be postponed, and the Sears
catalog isn't autoshipped anymore...).
Well, about 6 weeks ago I signed a contract that is beginning to actually
send money to me, and I am able to begin to wave the flame of the dream back
to life. It will be another couple of months before I can justify the time I
need to begin making sawdust, but I had to log on and let some of the fine
folks I have met here know I am coming back to life... :o)
To that end, I HAVE to share where we'll be moving this week... First, the
readers digest version of what's up: No income=no house payment=lose
house=need to rent (and celebrate, as I HATED our current house... Gated
community, no privacy, not big enough to build plane comfortably)=gotta
move.... Got new job JUST in time (who rent's to unemployed no-income for a
year and 3 months family?)=cash flow=look for perfect house=found one (the
only one that actually called me back in earnest)=UNREAL side benefit....
OK, now that that's over, here's the cool stuff I've wanted to share with
those that know me on the list... The place comes with a BARN that has a
concrete floor and is 2 stories tall! (Pictures attached).
I have full access to the barn, and it is big enough to build 2 planes at
once... This is no animal critter barn, but an airplane building barn! When
I saw it, I tried not to let it effect my decision to move there. If the
rest wasn't right, the deal would be over... BUT, it all fell into place
perfectly, and this week we move to 'the country'
where I will begin to help mulch my wife's garden with Spruce and Poplar
sawdust!
More as I finally develop a web-log to build my Build History (any
suggestion greatly appreciated...) and pictures will be forthcoming.
Here's the pic's I took of the Barn when I took my wife out to show her the
house for the first time... Woo Hoo! (Oh, and solar panels on the house feed
the meter here BACKWARDS so I have no electrical expense... Life is good...!
:o)
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| Subject: | Re: Covering Processes |
Bill Church wrote:
> Like this?
>
> http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/nx37979.jpg
>
>
> Bill C.
Ummmm... errr... uhhhh... DROOL! :P
--------
Brad "DOMIT" Smith
First rule of ground school: This is the ground... don't hit it going fast.
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You ever meet Captain Oveur on any of those flights ?:)
*Roger Murdock <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000717/>*: Flight 2-0-9'er, you
are cleared for take-off.
*Captain Oveur <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0336335/>*: Roger!
*Roger Murdock <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000717/>*: Huh?
*Tower voice*: L.A. departure frequency, 123 point 9'er.
*Captain Oveur <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0336335/>*: Roger!
*Roger Murdock <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000717/>*: Huh?
*Victor Basta <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0039149/>*: Request vector, over.
*Captain Oveur <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0336335/>*: What?
*Tower voice*: Flight 2-0-9'er cleared for vector 324.
*Roger Murdock <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000717/>*: We have clearance,
Clarence.
*Captain Oveur <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0336335/>*: Roger, Roger. What's
our vector, Victor?
*Tower voice*: Tower's radio clearance, over!
*Captain Oveur <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0336335/>*: That's Clarence
Oveur. Over.
*Tower voice*: Over.
*Captain Oveur <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0336335/>*: Roger.
*Roger Murdock <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000717/>*: Huh?
*Tower voice*: Roger, over!
*Roger Murdock <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000717/>*: What?
*Captain Oveur <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0336335/>*: Huh?
*Victor Basta <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0039149/>*: Who?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVq4_HhBK8Y
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, dgaldrich <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
>
> Several years ago, I was jumpseating on an American 727 (sorta dates
> things) and introduced myself to the captain. His reply was "No, I'M Dave
> Aldrich!!" It really was, even still have his business card.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330007#330007
>
>
--
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Castle Rock, Colorado
"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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| Subject: | Re: After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign |
up...
Nice work Jake. Another ROTEC Piet, it will be beautiful. We are all jealous
(except for Dick N.)
rick
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:47 AM, aerocarjake <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Howdy List...
>
> THANKS for all the great posts I have read over the last several years -
> thought I'd join the conversation.
>
> I started my Pietenpol a little over two years ago and yesterday I moved it
> out of the shop with the engine mounted for the first time. Since I am
> building my Piet in a one-car garage/workshop, it works out great to move
> the fuselage over to the next "bay" so I have room to fabricate the parts.
> My temporary landing gear lets me move it around like a wheelbarrow until I
> fabricate the actual flight-worthy undercarriage.
>
> I have attached my most recent photo (from yesterday - a real "super" day
> in more ways than one) and below is the link to my project on the ROTEC
> engine webpage.
>
> http://www.rotecengines.com/Projects/JakeSchultz.html
>
> Glad to have chatted with many of you offline. I look forward to this
> continued Pietenpol adventure with many of you as well...
>
> Jake
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330012#330012
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/engine_outdoors_142.jpg
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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up...
Looks beautiful, Jake. Where are you located?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign
up...
Howdy List...
THANKS for all the great posts I have read over the last several years -
thought I'd join the conversation.
I started my Pietenpol a little over two years ago and yesterday I moved it
out of the shop with the engine mounted for the first time. Since I am
building my Piet in a one-car garage/workshop, it works out great to move
the fuselage over to the next "bay" so I have room to fabricate the parts.
My temporary landing gear lets me move it around like a wheelbarrow until I
fabricate the actual flight-worthy undercarriage.
I have attached my most recent photo (from yesterday - a real "super" day in
more ways than one) and below is the link to my project on the ROTEC engine
webpage.
http://www.rotecengines.com/Projects/JakeSchultz.html
Glad to have chatted with many of you offline. I look forward to this
continued Pietenpol adventure with many of you as well...
Jake
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Hell you could build 2 or 3 one piece wings at once in there. Glad your
back in the saddle again Mark.
rick
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> Well, in the pursute of building a dream, life happens. I began my
> quest of building the Piet a year and a half ago, while I was employed
> and enjoying life. 2 months later, a lay off that lasted 1 year and 3
> months occurred and I bowed out of the project until it made sence to
> buy epoxy and wood over food and toilet paper... (somethings just
> can't be postponed, and the Sears catalog isn't autoshipped
> anymore...).
>
> Well, about 6 weeks ago I signed a contract that is beginning to
> actually send money to me, and I am able to begin to wave the flame of
> the dream back to life. It will be another couple of months before I
> can justify the time I need to begin making sawdust, but I had to log
> on and let some of the fine folks I have met here know I am coming
> back to life... :o)
>
> To that end, I HAVE to share where we'll be moving this week... First,
> the readers digest version of what's up: No income=no house
> payment=lose house=need to rent (and celebrate, as I HATED our current
> house... Gated community, no privacy, not big enough to build plane
> comfortably)=gotta move.... Got new job JUST in time (who rent's to
> unemployed no-income for a year and 3 months family?)=cash flow=look
> for perfect house=found one (the only one that actually called me back
> in earnest)=UNREAL side benefit....
>
> OK, now that that's over, here's the cool stuff I've wanted to share
> with those that know me on the list... The place comes with a BARN
> that has a concrete floor and is 2 stories tall! (Pictures attached).
> I have full access to the barn, and it is big enough to build 2 planes
> at once... This is no animal critter barn, but an airplane building
> barn! When I saw it, I tried not to let it effect my decision to move
> there. If the rest wasn't right, the deal would be over... BUT, it all
> fell into place perfectly, and this week we move to 'the country'
> where I will begin to help mulch my wife's garden with Spruce and
> Poplar sawdust!
>
> More as I finally develop a web-log to build my Build History (any
> suggestion greatly appreciated...) and pictures will be forthcoming.
>
> Here's the pic's I took of the Barn when I took my wife out to show
> her the house for the first time... Woo Hoo! (Oh, and solar panels on
> the house feed the meter here BACKWARDS so I have no electrical
> expense... Life is good...! :o)
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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I'll ask Steve next time I see him. I believe they're from Alden, Iowa. His dad
built a corvair Pietenpol. From what I understand, his dad got the private ticket
in order to be able to fly his Piet, but never got it off the ground... kept
ground looping, then repairing it while trying to high speed taxi it I believe.
His son showed me photos of it. It looked as though he put a castering wheel
on the back (like furniture wheel. I told Steve to tell his dad to put a
real tailwheel on it and maybe it won't groundloop so easily... that was about
a year ago.. don't know what the current status is on it. He did say it's always
for sale if I wanted it, but I figured that I could find a nice continental
one that's flying for about 2/3 what he was asking for it.
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Well after much encouragement from Oscar and a strong recommendation from William
Wynn. the carb got shipped off to the D&G shop today. I have new hardware
coming to re-mount it with the shaft to the right side of the aircraft instead
of forward. though Russ at D&G didn't think that was really a likely source of
my problem.( it certainly could have caused an un-even flow situation side to
side at partial throttle)and I'm sitting on hold waiting for parts to come in
to re-mount it and hopefully be at the end of my hesitation problems.thanks
to those who tried to help with advice. Raymond
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| Subject: | need help with wiring |
Hey all,
I'm kinda getting close to wiring up my 0200. I'm going to leave the
starter, generator and have a battery, but obviously other than that, a very
minimal system. Just enough to start and run my smoke and a couple of
cigarette adapters in the cockpit.
I've been studying wiring diagrams in Bingilis' books and I pretty much get
it, but am wondering if there's someone out there who is pretty comfortable
with this stuff that would volunteer to walk me through it and answer
questions along the way.
Thanks!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign |
up...
Jack, i'm in Issaquah WA, which is an eastside suburb of Seattle.... long ways
from nc but I hope to visit Asheville later this year
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Directory |
Hey Kevin
I'm in Texas right now and I havent seen a Pietenpol yet. I saw a P-38 , a
B-17, a B-29 but no Pietenpols. I am going on a search tomorrow to the
western side of the state. Nothing aroud San Antonioexcept for the big Air
Force stuff.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Directory
> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> Thanks for doing all this, Jack. I looked through all the Texans and I
> have met, personally, all but one. He's brand new so he hasn't come to
> visit yet. He's got an RV, though, so I bet I'll see him when back from
> AZ next month.
>
> I know a bunch of those other folks, too:).
>
> I love this stuff.
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329916#329916
>
>
>
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| Subject: | steel fuselage and engine weight |
It appears on the plans that the steel fuselage was designed for the Corvair.
Does anyone have the weight of the Corvair. I ask because I want to put an 0200
in it (at about 170 lbs) and want to know if I am going to have a problem with
the CG.
Thanks all,
Mike
Prunedale, CA
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| Subject: | steel fuselage and engine weight |
The steel fuselage was designed about 30 years before the Corvair was
spawned. An O-200 should work just fine in it. I believe Roman Bukolt has
an O-200 in his steel fuselage Piet but I'm not certain of that.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MPB
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: steel fuselage and engine weight
It appears on the plans that the steel fuselage was designed for the
Corvair. Does anyone have the weight of the Corvair. I ask because I want
to put an 0200 in it (at about 170 lbs) and want to know if I am going to
have a problem with the CG.
Thanks all,
Mike
Prunedale, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Directory |
Well, crap, Dick. I'm in Arizona. However! Oscar Zuniga is in San Antonio.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: UPDATE and return to life! |
Well, what a great group of folks!
My wife just made a face when she heard I posted the pics....
Somethings just don't translate well into 'Wife Speak'... If there's a
translation manual out there similar to the Great Waldo Pepper
Quotes-translation manual, please forward it to me. She just kinda has
that look on her face that says "I'm glad it makes you happy. Now, can
you please pack a box?"
I stopped back at the woodshed where I tried to start up the wood kit
business, and I hope to be getting some nice, Sitka spruce soon and
start making some little wood chips in a few weeks!
Woo Hoo! Thanks for all the nice encouragement. I am really excited
about the new Man Cave :o) !
Oh Yeah.... I forgot to mention that even though I am not working down
at the Woodshed anymore, I still have a 4 x 4 foot 3 axis router I
plan to use to make jigs for all the major parts of the plane. Since I
have drawn most of the big parts into my SketchUp program to scratch
the 'build' itch without spending money, I can now simply import them
into my CAM program and punch holes where the jig pegs need to be! The
fuse jig will assemble in parts like a jigsaw puzzle, and hopefully
make the build a bit speedier... We'll see...
Thanks again for the happy encouragement!
Mark
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hell you could build 2 or 3 one piece wings at once in there. Glad your
> back in the saddle again Mark.
>
> rick
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>> Well, in the pursute of building a dream, life happens. I began my
>> quest of building the Piet a year and a half ago, while I was employed
>> and enjoying life. 2 months later, a lay off that lasted 1 year and 3
>> months occurred and I bowed out of the project until it made sence to
>> buy epoxy and wood over food and toilet paper... (somethings just
>> can't be postponed, and the Sears catalog isn't autoshipped
>> anymore...).
>>
>> Well, about 6 weeks ago I signed a contract that is beginning to
>> actually send money to me, and I am able to begin to wave the flame of
>> the dream back to life. It will be another couple of months before I
>> can justify the time I need to begin making sawdust, but I had to log
>> on and let some of the fine folks I have met here know I am coming
>> back to life... :o)
>>
>> To that end, I HAVE to share where we'll be moving this week... First,
>> the readers digest version of what's up: No income=no house
>> payment=lose house=need to rent (and celebrate, as I HATED our current
>> house... Gated community, no privacy, not big enough to build plane
>> comfortably)=gotta move.... Got new job JUST in time (who rent's to
>> unemployed no-income for a year and 3 months family?)=cash flow=look
>> for perfect house=found one (the only one that actually called me back
>> in earnest)=UNREAL side benefit....
>>
>> OK, now that that's over, here's the cool stuff I've wanted to share
>> with those that know me on the list... The place comes with a BARN
>> that has a concrete floor and is 2 stories tall! (Pictures attached).
>> I have full access to the barn, and it is big enough to build 2 planes
>> at once... This is no animal critter barn, but an airplane building
>> barn! When I saw it, I tried not to let it effect my decision to move
>> there. If the rest wasn't right, the deal would be over... BUT, it all
>> fell into place perfectly, and this week we move to 'the country'
>> where I will begin to help mulch my wife's garden with Spruce and
>> Poplar sawdust!
>>
>> More as I finally develop a web-log to build my Build History (any
>> suggestion greatly appreciated...) and pictures will be forthcoming.
>>
>> Here's the pic's I took of the Barn when I took my wife out to show
>> her the house for the first time... Woo Hoo! (Oh, and solar panels on
>> the house feed the meter here BACKWARDS so I have no electrical
>> expense... Life is good...! :o)
>
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
>
> "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Room For Bungee Cord |
Michael,
No brakes on NX18235 but this will give you an idea how much space you
will need for 3 wraps of 1/2" bungee cord.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Perez
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Room For Bungee Cord
On average, how much space is needed between the landing gear
ash block and wheel/brake assembly for the bungee cords to lay on the
axle? Also, are the bungee cord wraps laid out only side by side to each
other, (single layer...more space needed) or are they stacked up on top
of one another? (less space needed on axle) Does it matter?
I am getting close to laying out my axle for the various
components that get welded to it, and would like to know how much room
is needed for the bungees.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | need help with wiring |
Douwe,
Attached is a copy of my 601XLB with an O-200. You can leave out a lot of
the stuff and the alternator will change to a generator. I have a diagram of
that somewhere if you would like.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2011 11:50 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help with wiring
Hey all,
I'm kinda getting close to wiring up my 0200. I'm going to leave the
starter, generator and have a battery, but obviously other than that, a very
minimal system. Just enough to start and run my smoke and a couple of
cigarette adapters in the cockpit.
I've been studying wiring diagrams in Bingilis' books and I pretty much get
it, but am wondering if there's someone out there who is pretty comfortable
with this stuff that would volunteer to walk me through it and answer
questions along the way.
Thanks!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Room For Bungee Cord |
Here's mine. The brakes will add 1/4" between wheel and
collar.
On average, how much space is needed between the landing gear
ash block and wheel/brake assembly for the bungee cords to lay on the
axle? Also, are the bungee cord wraps laid out only side by side to each
other,Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
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| Subject: | Re: UPDATE and return to life! |
Glad to hear that things are turning around and starting to work out in your favor
again Mark! Can't wait to read updates about Piet parts being made soon!
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
Well! Nice to see us Februaries are recognized so grandly.
Feb 25 for me.
>
> All great people were born in February. Mine is the 18th. Chuck (Do not
> archive)
.B'day is the 26th-thanks Jack dave
>>
>> --------
>> Covering Piet
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