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1. 03:46 AM - Re: down to the fuselage (Dangerous Dave)
2. 04:04 AM - Re: Re: down to the fuselage (Charles Campbell)
3. 07:02 AM - Re: Room For Bungee Cord (Michael Perez)
4. 07:11 AM - From Everett WA.... (Jim Markle)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: need help with wiring (K5YAC)
6. 07:58 AM - Re: From Everett WA.... (aerocarjake)
7. 08:07 AM - Re: need help with wiring (Barry Davis)
8. 08:59 AM - Re: steel fuselage and engine weight (Jerry Dotson)
9. 09:29 AM - Re: Re: need help with wiring (Charles Campbell)
10. 09:33 AM - Re: Shad's Piet... (gtche98)
11. 09:40 AM - Re: Re: need help with wiring (Ryan Mueller)
12. 09:52 AM - Re: down to the fuselage (gtche98)
13. 10:04 AM - Re: need help with wiring (Rick Holland)
14. 10:48 AM - Re: UPDATE and return to life! (taildrags)
15. 10:54 AM - Re: need help with wiring (dgaldrich)
16. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: need help with wiring (Peter W Johnson)
17. 12:12 PM - Re: steel fuselage and engine weight (MPB)
18. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: steel fuselage and engine weight (Ryan Mueller)
19. 02:30 PM - Re: steel fuselage and engine weight (Bill Church)
20. 03:09 PM - Contintental Motor Mount question (Bill Church)
21. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: need help with wiring (Charles Campbell)
22. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: down to the fuselage (Charles Campbell)
23. 03:25 PM - Re: Contintental Motor Mount question (Ben Charvet)
24. 03:47 PM - Re: Contintental Motor Mount question (pineymb)
25. 03:59 PM - Re: Contintental Motor Mount question (Jack Phillips)
26. 04:03 PM - Re: down to the fuselage (Bill Church)
27. 04:11 PM - Flight of the Phoenix (helspersew@aol.com)
28. 04:54 PM - Re: Contintental Motor Mount question (Bill Church)
29. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: need help with wiring (Ryan Mueller)
30. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: Contintental Motor Mount question (Ben Charvet)
31. 05:54 PM - Re: Flight of the Phoenix (Rick Holland)
32. 08:01 PM - Re: Re: down to the fuselage (Clif Dawson)
33. 08:15 PM - Re: Room For Bungee Cord (Clif Dawson)
34. 08:43 PM - Re: Flight of the Phoenix (Gene Rambo)
35. 08:57 PM - room for bunge cord (Dick N)
36. 11:14 PM - Re: room for bunge cord (Clif Dawson)
37. 11:25 PM - Re: Flight of the Phoenix (Clif Dawson)
38. 11:31 PM - Re: Flight of the Phoenix (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
Cliff,maybe we could get together and roast some marshmallows over some extra Piet
ribs.LOL dave
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
Reason for so many February births: count back 9 months from Feb -- comes
out June. How many marriages in June?
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: down to the fuselage
>
> Well! Nice to see us Februaries are recognized so grandly.
> Feb 25 for me.
>>
>> All great people were born in February. Mine is the 18th. Chuck (Do not
>> archive)
> .B'day is the 26th-thanks Jack dave
>>>
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>>> Covering Piet
>
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| Subject: | Re: Room For Bungee Cord |
Thanks for the nice pictures guys. Clif, I see that you used cast wheels, care
to share a picture of them? Hard to tell what they look like in bungee photo.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | From Everett WA.... |
So how far is Issaquah from Everett? 30 minutes maybe? I'm in Everett for a couple
days and would welcome a Piet visit while I'm here....
JM
-----Original Message-----
>From: aerocarjake <flight.jake@gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 7, 2011 5:02 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: After years of reading I thought I'd finally sign
up...
>
>
>Jack, i'm in Issaquah WA, which is an eastside suburb of Seattle.... long ways
from nc but I hope to visit Asheville later this year
>
>--------
>Jake Schultz - curator,
>Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330070#330070
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| Subject: | Re: need help with wiring |
Douwe:
I forget who originally offered this... it is not my work, but you might find if
helpful.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330156#330156
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| Subject: | Re: From Everett WA.... |
you bet... Issaquah is 34 miles from Everett
call me on my cell if you would like to link up...
Jake (cell) 245-260-1138
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | need help with wiring |
Let me know what you need
Barry Davis
(If you contact me off-group, please put "EAA" somewhere in the subject
line. I read all of those emails)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: need help with wiring
Hey all,
I'm kinda getting close to wiring up my 0200. I'm going to leave the
starter, generator and have a battery, but obviously other than that, a very
minimal system. Just enough to start and run my smoke and a couple of
cigarette adapters in the cockpit.
I've been studying wiring diagrams in Bingilis' books and I pretty much get
it, but am wondering if there's someone out there who is pretty comfortable
with this stuff that would volunteer to walk me through it and answer
questions along the way.
Thanks!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: steel fuselage and engine weight |
This has nothing to do with engine weight. Jack mentioned Roman Bukolt. If you
look at my avatar you will see a 1/4 scale Fleet Model 2 biplane. It is over 10
years old and still is like new. Roman built the kit. He builds as good of a
kit as I have ever seen. Just wanted to give kudos to him.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: need help with wiring |
Mark, I've been trying to get the post that you sent at 10:48 this morning.
The link doesn't work. It keeps kicking off and I get a message to send an
error report. Will you check it and see if it's the link or my computer?
Tnx
----- Original Message -----
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help with wiring
>
> Douwe:
>
> I forget who originally offered this... it is not my work, but you might
> find if helpful.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330156#330156
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_wiring_211.pdf
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shad's Piet... |
Looks like an interesting program, but alas, Wisconsin PBS does not carry it, and
$15 for a membership to the website to view episodes on line seems kinda steep.
Oh well...
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Gary Wilson
Greenville Wisconsin
gtche98 (at) gmail ((dot)) com
Planning Phase
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| Subject: | Re: need help with wiring |
The link works fine. Do you have a PDF reader installed on your computer? If
not, I would recommend Foxit.....far less annoying than Adobe Reader:
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/addons.php
<http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/addons.php>Install like you did
with OpenOffice.....
Ryan
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net
> wrote:
> cncampbell@windstream.net>
>
> Mark, I've been trying to get the post that you sent at 10:48 this morning.
> The link doesn't work. It keeps kicking off and I get a message to send an
> error report. Will you check it and see if it's the link or my computer?
> Tnx
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:48 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help with wiring
>
>
>>
>> Douwe:
>>
>> I forget who originally offered this... it is not my work, but you might
>> find if helpful.
>>
>> --------
>> Mark Chouinard
>> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330156#330156
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_wiring_211.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
Feb 13 for me!
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Gary Wilson
Greenville Wisconsin
gtche98 (at) gmail ((dot)) com
Planning Phase
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| Subject: | Re: need help with wiring |
Attached my CSC wiring diagram, may be able to learn something from it,
just need to drop the coils, condenser, and coil switcher.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Peter W Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>wro
te:
> Douwe,
>
>
> Attached is a copy of my 601XLB with an O-200. You can leave out a lot of
> the stuff and the alternator will change to a generator. I have a diagram
of
> that somewhere if you would like.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Peter
>
> Wonthaggi Australia
>
> http://www.cpc-world.com
>
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Douwe Blumberg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 February 2011 11:50 AM
> *To:* pietenpolgroup
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: need help with wiring
>
>
> Hey all,
>
>
> I=92m kinda getting close to wiring up my 0200. I=92m going to leave the
> starter, generator and have a battery, but obviously other than that, a v
ery
> minimal system. Just enough to start and run my smoke and a couple of
> cigarette adapters in the cockpit.
>
>
> I=92ve been studying wiring diagrams in Bingilis=92 books and I pretty mu
ch get
> it, but am wondering if there=92s someone out there who is pretty comfort
able
> with this stuff that would volunteer to walk me through it and answer
> questions along the way.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Douwe
>
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| Subject: | Re: UPDATE and return to life! |
Mark: you failed to say in which state or city your new barn/shop is located.
Whereabouts are you?
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Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
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| Subject: | Re: need help with wiring |
Bob Nuckolls runs the Aerolectric forum here on Matronics and has some schematics
available for download. They range from pretty simple to full IFR quad plasma
panel RV-10 complex.
Dave Aldrich
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: need help with wiring |
Mark,
That was from my web site. Electricals show the Corvair coils etc.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 2:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help with wiring
Douwe:
I forget who originally offered this... it is not my work, but you might
find if helpful.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330156#330156
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| Subject: | Re: steel fuselage and engine weight |
Well I guess I missed the conflicting dates... kinda obvious now that you point
it out. The plans of the steel fuselage are titled "1937 AirCamper with 1960
Corvair Engine". Now that I look at it again it appears that the wing is swept
back, I assume to correct for the CG shift with the lighter engine. Are there
really any draw backs to shifting the wing back? Does it make more sense
to build the extended wood fuselage instead? Are people still having to shift
the wing with the extended wood fuselage?
Thanks,
Mike
Prunedale, CA
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| Subject: | Re: steel fuselage and engine weight |
The Corvair as Bernard converted it was probably pretty close to the weight
of the Model A. If I recall correctly, the Model A is listed at roughly 245
lbs. A modern WW Corvair conversion is supposed to weigh in around 220-225,
but that is having jettisoned a number of stock Corvair parts from the
automotive application, so 245 for the Pietenpol conversion is probably
about right.
The extended fuselage gives you a little more room in the rear
cockpit....depending on the person it can feel a little less cramped. It
does not address CG issues.
The only drawbacks to shifting the wing back are aesthetics (personal
preference, really), and potentially more difficulty getting in the rear
cockpit, which can be addressed with cutouts, flops, etc.
Just don't tell Gene.... ;)
Ryan
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:08 PM, MPB <mike@seatec.us> wrote:
>
> Well I guess I missed the conflicting dates... kinda obvious now that you
> point it out. The plans of the steel fuselage are titled "1937 AirCamper
> with 1960 Corvair Engine". Now that I look at it again it appears that the
> wing is swept back, I assume to correct for the CG shift with the lighter
> engine. Are there really any draw backs to shifting the wing back? Does it
> make more sense to build the extended wood fuselage instead? Are people
> still having to shift the wing with the extended wood fuselage?
> Thanks,
> Mike
> Prunedale, CA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330199#330199
>
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| Subject: | Re: steel fuselage and engine weight |
Mike,
I think I see where you're getting confused. The plan set issued by the Pietenpol
family has one sheet that is actually two separate drawings, combined on one
sheet. Actually it's one drawing, plus some weight and balance data. The bottom
of the drawing sheet is the steel tube fuselage drawing, which is just a duplication
of the same drawing that was included in the 1932 Flying and Glider
Manual. The top part of the sheet is weight and balance data provided as an example
- with the data obtained from one of BHP's actual planes in 1966 - in this
case, Corvair powered. The data doesn't necessarily have anything to do with
the steel tube fuselage. The top half of the drawing sheet has no connection
to the bottom half.
The only advantage of the long fuselage has to do with the height of the pilot
and/or passenger. There is more leg room with the long fuselage, but, as Ryan
said, it does nothing to address W&B issues. Whatever you build, keep the tail
light.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Contintental Motor Mount question |
I was going over the plans last night, thinking about the tubing I need to order
for some of the metal work that I have ahead of me, and I noticed a detail in
the plans for the Continental Motor Mount that isn't quite clear to me.
The part in question is the "spool" for attachment of the engine to the mount.
The drawing calls for 0.625 O.D. x .049 tube, to be reamed for a 7/16" bolt. Well,
0.625 x .049 tube has an inner diameter of 0.527", and 7/16" is .438", so
that tube can't be reamed that size, since it's already bigger than that.
Looking a little more closely at the drawing, it's actually drawn with a smaller
tube inside the .625" tube. What's the deelio? Is the inner tube supposed to
be loose, or is it welded to the outer tube? If it's welded, why not just used
a thicker wall tube (.625" x .095")? If it is not welded, why not?
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: need help with wiring |
I installed Foxit and I also have a program called php tablet. Internet
Explorer still kicks it off and wants me to send an error report. I'll
wait until later -- maybe explorer is just goofed up right now.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help with wiring
The link works fine. Do you have a PDF reader installed on your
computer? If not, I would recommend Foxit.....far less annoying than
Adobe Reader:
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/addons.php
Install like you did with OpenOffice.....
Ryan
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Charles Campbell
<cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote:
<cncampbell@windstream.net>
Mark, I've been trying to get the post that you sent at 10:48 this
morning. The link doesn't work. It keeps kicking off and I get a
message to send an error report. Will you check it and see if it's the
link or my computer? Tnx
----- Original Message ----- From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help with wiring
Douwe:
I forget who originally offered this... it is not my work, but you
might find if helpful.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on
Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
We need to have one big humongous party for all Februaryites. Do not
archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "gtche98" <gtche98@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: down to the fuselage
>
> Feb 13 for me!
>
> --------
> Gary Wilson
> Greenville Wisconsin
> gtche98 (at) gmail ((dot)) com
> Planning Phase
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Contintental Motor Mount question |
The "spool" gets a washer welded on either side that I reamed to fit the
bolt.
Ben Charvet
On 2/8/2011 6:07 PM, Bill Church wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bill Church"<billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> I was going over the plans last night, thinking about the tubing I need to order
for some of the metal work that I have ahead of me, and I noticed a detail
in the plans for the Continental Motor Mount that isn't quite clear to me.
> The part in question is the "spool" for attachment of the engine to the mount.
The drawing calls for 0.625 O.D. x .049 tube, to be reamed for a 7/16" bolt.
Well, 0.625 x .049 tube has an inner diameter of 0.527", and 7/16" is .438",
so that tube can't be reamed that size, since it's already bigger than that.
> Looking a little more closely at the drawing, it's actually drawn with a smaller
tube inside the .625" tube. What's the deelio? Is the inner tube supposed
to be loose, or is it welded to the outer tube? If it's welded, why not just used
a thicker wall tube (.625" x .095")? If it is not welded, why not?
>
> Bill C.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330209#330209
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| Subject: | Re: Contintental Motor Mount question |
That is exactly what I did Bill, ordered a 12" piece of the .625 x .095 4130 tubing
reamed to fit 7/16 bolt.
Might even have some extra lazer cut washers kickin" around if you want them.
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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| Subject: | Contintental Motor Mount question |
Bill, I actually just bought some 4130 stock and had a machinist at work
turn down the spools for me, then welded them to the mount.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 6:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Contintental Motor Mount question
I was going over the plans last night, thinking about the tubing I need to
order for some of the metal work that I have ahead of me, and I noticed a
detail in the plans for the Continental Motor Mount that isn't quite clear
to me.
The part in question is the "spool" for attachment of the engine to the
mount. The drawing calls for 0.625 O.D. x .049 tube, to be reamed for a
7/16" bolt. Well, 0.625 x .049 tube has an inner diameter of 0.527", and
7/16" is .438", so that tube can't be reamed that size, since it's already
bigger than that.
Looking a little more closely at the drawing, it's actually drawn with a
smaller tube inside the .625" tube. What's the deelio? Is the inner tube
supposed to be loose, or is it welded to the outer tube? If it's welded, why
not just used a thicker wall tube (.625" x .095")? If it is not welded, why
not?
Bill C.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330209#330209
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
My guess is that about 8 percent (1/12) of Pietenpol builders were born in February.
Of course, the same goes for January, March, April, May,...
BC
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| Subject: | Flight of the Phoenix |
Mark R.,
A name for you to consider for your Piet. The Phoenix, as most of you proba
bly know, was a mythical bird that comes back to life after death. Also one
of the all-time great movies from 1965 with Jimmy Stewart. J.S. is the cor
p. oil company pilot flying a C-119 Flying Boxcar with a handful of oil com
pany employees over the Sahara when they run into a sandstorm and crash in
the middle of nowhere. With limited provisions and water, they proceed to c
ut the airplane apart and re-build it into an escape craft. The best scene
is near the end, the day before they are going to try it, when J.S. discove
rs that they have been following the direction of a TOY airplane designer.
J.S. breaks out into a delirious rage and is on the verge of loosing it. Th
en the next day (what was with those shotgun charges anyway?) they finally
get the one engine started and all the survivors line up all along the top
of the wing, right behind these giant lexan spoilers to attempt a take-off.
The thing miraculously lifts off and they all fly over to an oasis with pa
lm trees and land safely to a joyous rush into the pond. A real classic. I
think I'll go out and rent it again. :O)
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Contintental Motor Mount question |
Okay, gents, thanks for confirming that I wasn't just imagining things. So why
do you suppose the part was drawn that way (tube inside a tube)?
Ben, the plans don't show a washer welded on the back side. Did you use the same
size washer in the back? Seems like there might not be enough space there, with
the tubes converging from behind.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: need help with wiring |
PHP is a web programming "language"......I don't think there is actually a
program called PHP Tablet. It's a normal PDF file, so if you have a viewer
installed it should work. It's possible that there might be an association
mixup in Windows, which IE would feed off of. Offer still stands, if you
want me to hop on and take look let me know and we can arrange it. It's a
one time connection, and I would not be able to access your computer ever
again (unless you accepted another Gotomeeting from me). Not a bad thing to
resolve anyhow, as you'll probably run across more PDFs as a matter of
course.
Ryan
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Charles Campbell
<cncampbell@windstream.net>wrote:
> I installed Foxit and I also have a program called php tablet. Internet
> Explorer still kicks it off and wants me to send an error report. I'll wait
> until later -- maybe explorer is just goofed up right now.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help with wiring
>
> The link works fine. Do you have a PDF reader installed on your computer?
> If not, I would recommend Foxit.....far less annoying than Adobe Reader:
>
> http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/addons.php
>
> <http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/addons.php>Install like you did
> with OpenOffice.....
>
> Ryan
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Charles Campbell <
> cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> cncampbell@windstream.net>
>>
>> Mark, I've been trying to get the post that you sent at 10:48 this
>> morning. The link doesn't work. It keeps kicking off and I get a message to
>> send an error report. Will you check it and see if it's the link or my
>> computer? Tnx
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:48 AM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: need help with wiring
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Douwe:
>>>
>>> I forget who originally offered this... it is not my work, but you might
>>> find if helpful.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Mark Chouinard
>>> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330156#330156
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attachments:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_wiring_211.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Contintental Motor Mount question |
You are right, there is no washer on the back of mine. I think I must
have used a tube thick enough that the bolts fit tight. Sorry for the
bad info, but I wasn't looking at the mount when I responded, and its
been 3 or 4 years since I made it.
Ben
On 2/8/2011 7:52 PM, Bill Church wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bill Church"<billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Okay, gents, thanks for confirming that I wasn't just imagining things. So why
do you suppose the part was drawn that way (tube inside a tube)?
>
> Ben, the plans don't show a washer welded on the back side. Did you use the same
size washer in the back? Seems like there might not be enough space there,
with the tubes converging from behind.
>
> Bill C.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330222#330222
>
>
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Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: Flight of the Phoenix |
And a stunt pilot died making that movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n82nN_lqn58
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Mark R.,
>
> A name for you to consider for your Piet. The Phoenix, as most of you
> probably know, was a mythical bird that comes back to life after death. Also
> one of the all-time great movies from 1965 with Jimmy Stewart. J.S. is the
> corp. oil company pilot flying a C-119 Flying Boxcar with a handful of oil
> company employees over the Sahara when they run into a sandstorm and crash
> in the middle of nowhere. With limited provisions and water, they proceed to
> cut the airplane apart and re-build it into an escape craft. The best scene
> is near the end, the day before they are going to try it, when J.S.
> discovers that they have been following the direction of a *TOY* airplane
> designer. J.S. breaks out into a delirious rage and is on the verge of
> loosing it. Then the next day (what was with those shotgun charges anyway?)
> they finally get the one engine started and all the survivors line up all
> along the top of the wing, right behind these giant lexan spoilers to
> attempt a take-off. The thing miraculously lifts off and they all fly over
> to an oasis with palm trees and land safely to a joyous rush into the pond.
> A real classic. I think I'll go out and rent it again. :O)
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
> do not archive
>
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>
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>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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| Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
Now there's an idea!
On the other hand we could just barby the ribs.
I understand they go well with that special sauce
poymek. :-)
Clif
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>
> Cliff,maybe we could get together and roast some marshmallows over some
> extra Piet ribs.LOL dave
>
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| Subject: | Re: Room For Bungee Cord |
Sure, here's a couple. First is with the outer hub extension
I made. The second details the bronze bearing on the
inner end. the third is with a matboard cover pattern.
More here; http://www.clifdawson.ca/Homepage4-10-06/Pietenpol10.html
Clif
Clif, I see that you used cast wheels, care to share a picture of them?
Michael Perez
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| Subject: | Flight of the Phoenix |
and it was based=2C in part=2C on a true story!!
Gene
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight of the Phoenix
From: helspersew@aol.com
Mark R.=2C
A name for you to consider for your Piet. The Phoenix=2C as most of you pro
bably know=2C was a mythical bird that comes back to life after death. Also
one of the all-time great movies from 1965 with Jimmy Stewart. J.S. is the
corp. oil company pilot flying a C-119 Flying Boxcar with a handful of oil
company employees over the Sahara when they run into a sandstorm and crash
in the middle of nowhere. With limited provisions and water=2C they procee
d to cut the airplane apart and re-build it into an escape craft. The best
scene is near the end=2C the day before they are going to try it=2C when J.
S. discovers that they have been following the direction of a TOY airplane
designer. J.S. breaks out into a delirious rage and is on the verge of loos
ing it. Then the next day (what was with those shotgun charges anyway?) the
y finally get the one engine started and all the survivors line up all alon
g the top of the wing=2C right behind these giant lexan spoilers to attempt
a take-off. The thing miraculously lifts off and they all fly over to an o
asis with palm trees and land safely to a joyous rush into the pond. A real
classic. I think I'll go out and rent it again. :O)
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove=2C IL.
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| Subject: | room for bunge cord |
Hi Cliff
I looked at your pics and noticed that you dont have any guards against
the bolts. You might want to get a piece of leather or PVC to wrap
around the bottoms to protect the bungee from wearing out.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: room for bunge cord |
Yeah, I've got to do something there. I just haven't
figured out what yet. This is a big part of that 90%
done and 90% to go thing, isn't it! Of course I
didn't notice anything awry until I'd finished. Right!! :-)
Clif
Hi Cliff
I looked at your pics and noticed that you dont have any guards
against the bolts. You might want to get a piece of leather or PVC to
wrap around the bottoms to protect the bungee from wearing out.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Flight of the Phoenix |
(what was with those shotgun charges anyway?)
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Flight of the Phoenix |
I can't believe I did that!! My fingers did the walking all by
themselves. :-)
Anyway, that's a shotgun starter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffman_engine_starter
Wouldn't that be a kick at Broadhead? Line up a bunch
of Piets. Gentlemen start your engines! Bang, bang, bang!
Clif
(what was with those shotgun charges anyway?) Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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