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1. 12:06 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Clif Dawson)
2. 12:36 AM - Re: Re: down to the fuselage (Clif Dawson)
3. 12:36 AM - Re: Re: steel fuselage and engine weight (Clif Dawson)
4. 12:40 AM - Re: Room For Bungee Cord (Clif Dawson)
5. 12:58 AM - Re: leading edge plywood (kevinpurtee)
6. 01:01 AM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (kevinpurtee)
7. 01:04 AM - Re: Tail Section Hinges (kevinpurtee)
8. 01:07 AM - Re: Rudder Pedals (kevinpurtee)
9. 05:02 AM - Corvair for sale on Barnstormers (Jerry Dotson)
10. 05:24 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Gene Rambo)
11. 05:51 AM - Re: Rudder Pedals (Ben Charvet)
12. 05:56 AM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (K5YAC)
13. 06:37 AM - Re: Re: Rudder Pedals (Jack)
14. 07:23 AM - Pietenpol wanted! (pilotjkl)
15. 07:33 AM - Re: Pietenpol wanted! (K5YAC)
16. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Mark Roberts)
17. 08:11 AM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Jerry Dotson)
18. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (helspersew@aol.com)
19. 08:44 AM - Re: Tail Section Hinges (Rick Holland)
20. 08:44 AM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (gboothe5@comcast.net)
21. 09:12 AM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (V Groah)
22. 09:28 AM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (K5YAC)
23. 09:42 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Rick Holland)
24. 09:55 AM - leading edge plywood (santiago morete)
25. 10:06 AM - Band Type Brake Cable (Michael Perez)
26. 10:08 AM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
27. 10:56 AM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Michael Groah)
28. 11:57 AM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (V Groah)
29. 12:04 PM - Re: Band Type Brake Cable (Kenneth Bickers)
30. 12:38 PM - Re: Band Type Brake Cable (helspersew@aol.com)
31. 04:31 PM - Re: Band Type Brake Cable (John Kuhfahl)
32. 05:12 PM - Re: Band Type Brake Cable (Michael Perez)
33. 06:10 PM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (PShipman)
34. 07:14 PM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Piet2112)
35. 07:16 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Mark Roberts)
36. 07:52 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Mark Roberts)
37. 08:25 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Mike Tunnicliffe)
38. 09:07 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Michael Groah)
39. 09:27 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Clif Dawson)
40. 11:27 PM - Re: Band Type Brake Cable (Billy McCaskill)
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Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
It has nothing to do with reinforcement of the fabric.
This is a fast,powerful machine that doesn't have any
issues with getting off the ground. The wing could
be a piece of flat plywood and it would still fly. The
Piet, on the other hand, needs lift, all it can get.
Look at that wing profile in a couple of those pics.
It's a round nosed, pointy tailed plank.
Bernard even had to undercut the bottom of his to get
more lift.
So by smoothing the nose profile as much as possible
a little bit more was gained by not allowing the profile
to sink flatter between the ribs.
Clif
> The Brown B-2 "Miss Los Angeles" flew at over 230 mph with the only
> reinforcement to the fabric covering being some false ribs supporting an
> extra layer of fabric from the leading edge to the spar.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/4590350390/in/photostream/
easier, quicker, and cheaper than fussing with plywood or aluminum leading
edges, and lighter to boot. What say y'all?
> Bill Frank
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Subject: | Re: down to the fuselage |
June and no wonder, all the rest ate peanut butter
except grandma who drove a Buick.
Clif
Do not archive this either!
> Of course, the same goes for January, March, April, May,...
>
> BC
>
> do not archive
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Subject: | Re: steel fuselage and engine weight |
Don't forget the rad and water. Another 15lb??
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel fuselage and engine weight
The Corvair as Bernard converted it was probably pretty close to the
weight of the Model A. If I recall correctly, the Model A is listed at
roughly 245 lbs.
Ryan
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Subject: | Re: Room For Bungee Cord |
I can't remember what they weigh but it's more than wire.
At the time I couldn't find any wire ones and these were
cheap. In my budget, in other words. I knew I was going
to cover them so I didn't see the modern look as a downside.
Clif
Never thought about some cast wheels and covers...very cool.
(Nice little modification.)
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Additionally, and the experts can correct me, my sense is that the leading edge
plywood provides significant stiffness to the structure. Don't think I'd consider
building the wing without said plywood.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Mark's tall. I built mine to 36" & cut them down to 32" when I had the chance
(4'X16').
Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: Tail Section Hinges |
There are still a WHOLE BUNCH of metal pieces to make even after you've paid Mr.
Kappler for the hinges.
Use the guy for mentorship/training on the other pieces, Tom. Looks like a great
resource.
Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Pedals |
Hi Jack - I used metal washers. May have put a little grease in there, but don't
remember.
Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Corvair for sale on Barnstormers |
FRESH CORVAIR ENGINE $4,800 WOW! Nearly completed conversion - All William Wynn's
Gold components, 5th bearing, All new. great deal!. Contact Eric D. Klee,
Owner - located Hudson, FL USA Telephone: 813-294-7957 . 813-901-5666 . Posted
February 9, 2011
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Don't know about expert=2C but in the case of the Piet=2C the plywood does
not add to the stiffness at all. The 1/16 okume ply I used is little bette
r than the cardboard Bernard supposedly used. I did consider just putting
an extra layer of fabric around the leading edge and letting the nose scall
op like many aircraft do=2C but decided that I would need to add extra nose
ribs for it to look right and I did not want the extra weight.
Gene
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
> From: kevin.purtee@us.army.mil
> Date: Thu=2C 10 Feb 2011 00:56:14 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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.mil>
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> Additionally=2C and the experts can correct me=2C my sense is that the le
ading edge plywood provides significant stiffness to the structure. Don't t
hink I'd consider building the wing without said plywood.
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> Kevin "=3BAxel"=3B Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown=2C TX
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Pedals |
On 2/9/2011 8:49 PM, Jack wrote:
>
> A couple of questionson the pedals. The plans call for them to be
> mounted 2inches from the firewall. Is that enoughdistance? I'm
> planning to place a washer between the pedal and the bracket. Should
> it be metal, fiber, plastic, etc?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> DSM
>
> <<...>>
>
The location works fine for me. I would change out the bolts on the
hinges with some drilled for cotter pins, since that is a working
connection. I used regular AN washers for my spacers.
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Yes, I am tall.... I might be able to look OVER the wing.
I also can't spell dimensions. [Embarassed]
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Pedals |
Yes I plan to do that, just didn't have any. Thanks
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote:
> DSM
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Subject: | Pietenpol wanted! |
Hi all! I am wanting to buy a Pietenpol flying or project if you have one or know
of one for sale please let me know,
Thank you in advance
John 432-209-6870 west Texas
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol wanted! |
Precious Pete
Basic Pietenpol
85 HP Continental
Enlarged, extended 2-piece wing
Steel tube fuselage
Roomy cockpits
Metal prop
Flies great!
Contact Roger White 918-698-3771.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Wow guys! Many thanks for all the info...
I had to let my EAA national membership lapse due to the financial
crisis of the last year and 2 months, but I plan to renew soon and I
can access the plans they have on the EAA download site.
Seems simple enough to just build a table, but I thought I'd ask y'all
because of the 'Round shoulders, flat forehead" syndrome I suffer
from. It's the result of the moment when you shrug your shoulders, and
slap your forehead once you see something and say "Why didn't I think
of that BEFORE I built my table!"
I have so much room in the barn that I am considering one long table
versus separate ones, but that may change when I actually start the
project. I had been planning the ribs and wing first due to space, but
I might start the fuse (more desirable) and then I have the mounting
point for all the rest. Besides, you just can't sit on a wing and make
airplane noises as well as you can a fuse.
Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in
Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to
an old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He
owns a steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for
his fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!
Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"
Yes Gary Boothe, I know it's cheating. And yes, I know how long it
took you to make your parts. But I am relieved! :oD
Thanks again for all the advice. I hope to post some pics in the next few weeks.
Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?
Mark
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:52 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Yes, I am tall.... I might be able to look OVER the wing.
>
> I also can't spell dimensions. [Embarassed]
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330415#330415
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
I made mine from old closet doors and 2x4's and welder's jack stands. It looks
crude and is I guess but very temporary. All the doors will go back in overhead
storage when the build is done. The jack stands make for a very rigid table
and precise leveling. It is 3' X 32' for the 1 piece wing.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
PLUS, it wouldn't be to plans, Gene.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 7:24 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
Don't know about expert, but in the case of the Piet, the plywood does not
add to the stiffness at all. The 1/16 okume ply I used is little better th
an the cardboard Bernard supposedly used. I did consider just putting an e
xtra layer of fabric around the leading edge and letting the nose scallop l
ike many aircraft do, but decided that I would need to add extra nose ribs
for it to look right and I did not want the extra weight.
Gene
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
> From: kevin.purtee@us.army.mil
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:56:14 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
.mil>
>
> Additionally, and the experts can correct me, my sense is that the leadin
g edge plywood provides significant stiffness to the structure. Don't think
I'd consider building the wing without said plywood.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330402#330402
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Subject: | Re: Tail Section Hinges |
Agreed, you will like the Kapler hinges.
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> About $60 in a check to Vi Kapler, and no more worries on your part.
>
> Ryan
>
> do not archive
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> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:40 PM, tdudley@umn.edu <tdudley@umn.edu> wrote:
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>> Worried about the tail hinges (and metal work in general), I looked for
>> and found a privately-owned welding shop about ten miles from my home. I
>> showed one of the employees the plan for the tail section hinges. He
>> brought me into the shop and made a hinge from scratch in under 30 minutes
>> while I watched (the final product would be a bit more fine-tuned). He told
>> me that he'd be able to build them for me if I wanted, but better yet, he
>> told me he'd help me make all the pieces myself. I'd pay him by the hour to
>> help, but that included all the tools for cutting, bending, drilling, and
>> TIG welding the pieces. His estimate was really reasonable.
>>
>> You've just got to love small shops in rural Minnesota.
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Mark,
If you know a guy who'll laser cut your parts, go for it!
But here's what I have learned about rib building: If you build the ribs first,
you can be done in 30 days; if you get distracted by other parts, it could take
3 years! Pretty soon you get a nasty-gram from Kevin or Ryan, more or less
saying, "Good God, Man! Just finish the ribs, already!"
Gary Boothe
3 to go...
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
Wow guys! Many thanks for all the info...
I had to let my EAA national membership lapse due to the financial
crisis of the last year and 2 months, but I plan to renew soon and I
can access the plans they have on the EAA download site.
Seems simple enough to just build a table, but I thought I'd ask y'all
because of the 'Round shoulders, flat forehead" syndrome I suffer
from. It's the result of the moment when you shrug your shoulders, and
slap your forehead once you see something and say "Why didn't I think
of that BEFORE I built my table!"
I have so much room in the barn that I am considering one long table
versus separate ones, but that may change when I actually start the
project. I had been planning the ribs and wing first due to space, but
I might start the fuse (more desirable) and then I have the mounting
point for all the rest. Besides, you just can't sit on a wing and make
airplane noises as well as you can a fuse.
Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in
Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to
an old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He
owns a steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for
his fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!
Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"
Yes Gary Boothe, I know it's cheating. And yes, I know how long it
took you to make your parts. But I am relieved! :oD
Thanks again for all the advice. I hope to post some pics in the next few weeks.
Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?
Mark
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:52 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Yes, I am tall.... I might be able to look OVER the wing.
>
> I also can't spell dimensions. [Embarassed]
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330415#330415
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Mark.
Good to see you back. If you are serious about starting a Piet you might w
ant to consider coming 40 miles south and look at ours before we blow it ap
art for fabric. We are just about ready to do that. In about 6 weeks it w
ill be in pieces again for fabric. We have photos of some of the jigs we m
ade that worked and could give some guidance on things that could be done w
rong. Yes=2C we did have a couple of things that after close examination h
ad to be redone. It Happens. Bring a camera and take photos. It is not l
ike we have the ideal plane or know all the answers. We don't. We have=2C
however=2C gone through the process and have a result. We found that grab
bing ideas from other builders that had gone before us saved a lot of head
scratching and avoided a lot of missteps.
Besides=2C we would like to see you again. Come and see us=2C we are not f
ar away. Vic and Mike Groah.
Ps. Any other Piet guys are welcome too. Just contact us. vgroah@hotmail
.com
> Date: Thu=2C 10 Feb 2011 07:57:02 -0800
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench
> From: mark.rbrts1@gmail.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
>
> Wow guys! Many thanks for all the info...
>
> I had to let my EAA national membership lapse due to the financial
> crisis of the last year and 2 months=2C but I plan to renew soon and I
> can access the plans they have on the EAA download site.
>
> Seems simple enough to just build a table=2C but I thought I'd ask y'all
> because of the 'Round shoulders=2C flat forehead" syndrome I suffer
> from. It's the result of the moment when you shrug your shoulders=2C and
> slap your forehead once you see something and say "Why didn't I think
> of that BEFORE I built my table!"
>
> I have so much room in the barn that I am considering one long table
> versus separate ones=2C but that may change when I actually start the
> project. I had been planning the ribs and wing first due to space=2C but
> I might start the fuse (more desirable) and then I have the mounting
> point for all the rest. Besides=2C you just can't sit on a wing and make
> airplane noises as well as you can a fuse.
>
> Oh=2C one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in
> Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to
> an old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He
> owns a steel fabrication company=2C and has a laser cutting machine for
> his fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!
> Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"
>
> Yes Gary Boothe=2C I know it's cheating. And yes=2C I know how long it
> took you to make your parts. But I am relieved! :oD
>
> Thanks again for all the advice. I hope to post some pics in the next few
weeks.
>
> Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu=2C Feb 10=2C 2011 at 5:52 AM=2C K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > Yes=2C I am tall.... I might be able to look OVER the wing.
> >
> > I also can't spell dimensions. [Embarassed]
> >
> > --------
> > Mark Chouinard
> > Wings=2C Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330415#330415
> >
> >
> >
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mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in Sketch Up
and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to an old acquaintance
I have recently renewed a relationship with. He owns a steel fabrication company,
and has a laser cutting machine for his fabrication plant. He said "How
thick are the parts? NO problem!
> Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"
One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings, cabane strut
fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue about 1/2" longer
(perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made to the plans can
create minor clearance issues.
mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?
www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this forum for us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build time, photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an online version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and will make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to see an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330465#330465
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Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
May effect the stall characteristics too.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> It has nothing to do with reinforcement of the fabric.
>
> This is a fast,powerful machine that doesn't have any
> issues with getting off the ground. The wing could
> be a piece of flat plywood and it would still fly. The
> Piet, on the other hand, needs lift, all it can get.
>
> Look at that wing profile in a couple of those pics.
> It's a round nosed, pointy tailed plank.
>
> Bernard even had to undercut the bottom of his to get
> more lift.
>
> So by smoothing the nose profile as much as possible
> a little bit more was gained by not allowing the profile
> to sink flatter between the ribs.
>
> Clif
>
>
> The Brown B-2 "Miss Los Angeles" flew at over 230 mph with the only
>> reinforcement to the fabric covering being some false ribs supporting an
>> extra layer of fabric from the leading edge to the spar.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/4590350390/in/photostream/
>>
> easier, quicker, and cheaper than fussing with plywood or aluminum leading
> edges, and lighter to boot. What say y'all?
>
> Bill Frank
>>
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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Subject: | leading edge plywood |
Larry Williams' Piet has false ribs instead of plywood. Also this Sky Scout
.
Saludos
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Subject: | Band Type Brake Cable |
For those of you using the band type brakes...where did you get the brake cables?
Make your own? If you made your own, please fill me in on some details.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Vic,
How about posting a few pics of your plane before you "blow it apart"
for covering. Thanks.
Brian
SLC-UT
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench
Mark.
Good to see you back. If you are serious about starting a Piet you
might want to consider coming 40 miles south and look at ours before we
blow it apart for fabric. We are just about ready to do that. In about
6 weeks it will be in pieces again for fabric. We have photos of some
of the jigs we made that worked and could give some guidance on things
that could be done wrong. Yes, we did have a couple of things that
after close examination had to be redone. It Happens. Bring a camera
and take photos. It is not like we have the ideal plane or know all the
answers. We don't. We have, however, gone through the process and have
a result. We found that grabbing ideas from other builders that had
gone before us saved a lot of head scratching and avoided a lot of
missteps.
Besides, we would like to see you again. Come and see us, we are not
far away. Vic and Mike Groah.
Ps. Any other Piet guys are welcome too. Just contact us.
vgroah@hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:57:02 -0800
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench
> From: mark.rbrts1@gmail.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
<mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
>
> Wow guys! Many thanks for all the info...
>
> I had to let my EAA national membership lapse due to the financial
> crisis of the last year and 2 months, but I plan to renew soon and I
> can access the plans they have on the EAA download site.
>
> Seems simple enough to just build a table, but I thought I'd ask y'all
> because of the 'Round shoulders, flat forehead" syndrome I suffer
> from. It's the result of the moment when you shrug your shoulders, and
> slap your forehead once you see something and say "Why didn't I think
> of that BEFORE I built my table!"
>
> I have so much room in the barn that I am considering one long table
> versus separate ones, but that may change when I actually start the
> project. I had been planning the ribs and wing first due to space, but
> I might start the fuse (more desirable) and then I have the mounting
> point for all the rest. Besides, you just can't sit on a wing and make
> airplane noises as well as you can a fuse.
>
> Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in
> Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to
> an old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He
> owns a steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for
> his fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!
> Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"
>
> Yes Gary Boothe, I know it's cheating. And yes, I know how long it
> took you to make your parts. But I am relieved! :oD
>
> Thanks again for all the advice. I hope to post some pics in the next
few weeks.
>
> Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:52 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I am tall.... I might be able to look OVER the wing.
> >
> > I also can't spell dimensions. [Embarassed]
> >
> > --------
> > Mark Chouinard
> > Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330415#330415
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Brian, =0A Vic is my dad and it's our joint project. Here are a couple
quick pics I =0Ashot the other day. =0A=0A=0AMike Groah=0ATulare=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com"
<brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Th
u, February 10, 2011 9:59:48 AM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans fo
r a good fuse workbench=0A=0A=0AVic,=0AHow about posting a few pics of your
plane before you =9Cblow it apart=9D for =0Acovering. Thanks.
=0A =0ABrian=0ASLC-UT=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
=0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
=0ASent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:10 AM=0ATo: piet list=0ASubject: RE
: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench=0A =0AMark.=0A =0AGoo
d to see you back. If you are serious about starting a Piet you might want
=0Ato consider coming 40 miles south and look at ours before we blow it ap
art for =0Afabric. We are just about ready to do that. In about 6 weeks i
t will be in =0Apieces again for fabric. We have photos of some of the jig
s we made that worked =0Aand could give some guidance on things that could
be done wrong. Yes, we did =0Ahave a couple of things that after close exa
mination had to be redone. It =0AHappens. Bring a camera and take photos.
It is not like we have the ideal =0Aplane or know all the answers. We do
n't. We have, however, gone through the =0Aprocess and have a result. We
found that grabbing ideas from other builders =0Athat had gone before us sa
ved a lot of head scratching and avoided a lot =0Aof missteps. =0A=0A =0AB
esides, we would like to see you again. Come and see us, we are not far aw
ay. =0AVic and Mike Groah.=0A =0APs. Any other Piet guys are welcome too.
Just contact us. vgroah@hotmail.com =0A=0A =0A> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011
07:57:02 -0800=0A> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse w
orkbench=0A> From: mark.rbrts1@gmail.com=0A> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.c
@gmail.com>=0A> =0A> Wow guys! Many thanks for all the info...=0A> =0A> I h
ad to let my EAA national membership lapse due to the financial=0A> crisis
of the last year and 2 months, but I plan to renew soon and I=0A> can acces
s the plans they have on the EAA download site.=0A> =0A> Seems simple enoug
h to just build a table, but I thought I'd ask y'all=0A> because of the 'Ro
und shoulders, flat forehead" syndrome I suffer=0A> from. It's the result o
f the moment when you shrug your shoulders, and=0A> slap your forehead once
you see something and say "Why didn't I think=0A> of that BEFORE I built m
y table!"=0A> =0A> I have so much room in the barn that I am considering on
e long table=0A> versus separate ones, but that may change when I actually
start the=0A> project. I had been planning the ribs and wing first due to s
pace, but=0A> I might start the fuse (more desirable) and then I have the m
ounting=0A> point for all the rest. Besides, you just can't sit on a wing a
nd make=0A> airplane noises as well as you can a fuse.=0A> =0A> Oh, one oth
er really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in=0A> Sketch Up and
cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to=0A> an old acquain
tance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He=0A> owns a steel fabr
ication company, and has a laser cutting machine for=0A> his fabrication pl
ant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!=0A> Bring me the pans an
d I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"=0A> =0A> Yes Gary Boothe
, I know it's cheating. And yes, I know how long it=0A> took you to make yo
ur parts. But I am relieved! :oD=0A> =0A> Thanks again for all the advice.
I hope to post some pics in the next few =0A>weeks.=0A> =0A> Any suggestion
s on programs to use for the build log online?=0A> =0A> Mark=0A> =0A> On Th
u, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:52 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:=0A> > --> Piete
npol-List message posted by: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>=0A> >=0A> > Yes, I
am tall.... I might be able to look OVER the wing.=0A> >=0A> > I also can't
spell dimensions. [Embarassed]=0A> >=0A> > --------=0A> > Mark Chouinard
=0A> > Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > Read this topic online here:=0A> >=0A>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330415#330415=0A> >=0A> >
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Correct good idea. Vic
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench
> From: hangar10@cox.net
> Date: Thu=2C 10 Feb 2011 09:25:18 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
>
> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:
> > Oh=2C one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in S
ketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to an ol
d acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He owns a steel
fabrication company=2C and has a laser cutting machine for his fabrication
plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!
> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"
>
>
> One word of advice=2C be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings=2C c
abane strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue abou
t 1/2" longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made
to the plans can create minor clearance issues.
>
>
> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:
> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?
>
>
> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this forum for
us. I think the program is $50=2C but it allows you to track build time=2C
photos and details=2C expense items=2C vendors=2C etc. You can post an onl
ine version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and w
ill make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to
see an example=2C check out my kitlog link in my signature below.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings=2C Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330465#330465
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Band Type Brake Cable |
I went to a local bicycle shop that specializes in mountain bikes (I know,
sort of a redundant statement here in Colorado). The owner special ordered
some extra long cables for me. Cost was reasonable, though I don't recall
exactly what it was. I haven't mounted the cables yet, so don't have
feedback on how well it all works together with the band brakes. Cheers, Ken
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> For those of you using the band type brakes...where did you get the
> brake cables? Make your own? If you made your own, please fill me in on some
> details.
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Band Type Brake Cable |
Micheal,
Look at Westcoastpiet under Dennis Hall. I took those pictures myself at Br
odhead. I basically used his set-up for inspiration for mine. A picture is
worth......you know.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 12:06 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Band Type Brake Cable
For those of you using the band type brakes...where did you get the brake c
ables? Make your own? If you made your own, please fill me in on some detai
ls.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Band Type Brake Cable |
As some of you know, I am rebuilding a 35 year old Piet. I am trying to
locate new cables and my best match appears to be golf-cart cables. Keep in
mind these will rust internally over time (as mine did). I am looking for
heavy cables that I can seal-in lubricant. Stainless would be nice. John
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Kenneth Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>wrote:
> I went to a local bicycle shop that specializes in mountain bikes (I know,
> sort of a redundant statement here in Colorado). The owner special ordered
> some extra long cables for me. Cost was reasonable, though I don't recall
> exactly what it was. I haven't mounted the cables yet, so don't have
> feedback on how well it all works together with the band brakes. Cheers, Ken
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> For those of you using the band type brakes...where did you get the
>> brake cables? Make your own? If you made your own, please fill me in on some
>> details.
>>
>> Michael Perez
>> Karetaker Aero
>> www.karetakeraero.com
>>
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>>
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Subject: | Re: Band Type Brake Cable |
I did find a place on line that sells cables, brake and throttle, for bikes and
go karts. They also sell all the cables, (7x7 and 7x19)outer sheathing, end caps,
fittings, etc so you can custom build your own units. I'll be looking into
this more and as I get closer to needing them.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
--- On Thu, 2/10/11, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Band Type Brake Cable
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 3:16 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Micheal,
>
>
>
>
>
> Look at Westcoastpiet under Dennis Hall. I took those
> pictures myself at Brodhead. I basically used his set-up for
> inspiration for mine. A picture is worth......you
> know.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dan Helsper
>
>
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original
> Message-----
>
> From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 12:06 pm
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Band Type Brake Cable
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For those of you using the band type
> brakes...where did you get the brake cables? Make your own?
> If you made your own, please fill me in on some details.
>
>
>
> Michael Perez
>
> Karetaker Aero
>
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
> "
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> p://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Vic,
I take it you and your son are in Fresno???
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Perry Shipman
Lakeside, CA
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
I noticed there is a theme starting to happen. I don't know if Kevin had anything
to do with it. But why does everyone have an axel in their workshop? Motivation?
If so, I'm going to get one.
Does size matter?
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Hey Mark (and all)
Thanks for the suggestion on the kitlog software... I will definitely
be looking at that in a minute...
Also Vic! I didn't know (but suspected) you were that far along on the
plane. I just got a new camera (WAY cool too... It'll shoot broadcast
quality High Definition video, but it looks like and is a Single Lens
Photo camera) that is itching to take pics of your plane. I had
planned to call ya and see what it is looking like anyway.
I keep your card in my wallet, so I will call before too long. We are
moving now and for the next 2 weeks we'll be a biut unsettled, but as
soon as I can I will call to come for a visit!
Thanks!
Mark
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:25 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:
>> Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in Sketch Up
and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to an old acquaintance
I have recently renewed a relationship with. He owns a steel fabrication
company, and has a laser cutting machine for his fabrication plant. He said "How
thick are the parts? NO problem!
>> Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"
>
>
> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings, cabane strut
fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue about 1/2" longer
(perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made to the plans
can create minor clearance issues.
>
>
> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:
>> Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?
>
>
> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this forum for us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build time, photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an online version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and will make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to see an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330465#330465
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Well, at the risk of getting flamed, or worse yet, branded as a Piet
Heretic, I am building my virtual Piet in Google Sketch Up because of
some of the design elements I am changing to meet my particular needs.
At 6'4" and almost as big around, I am needing the extra width to the
fuse (28" wide at the back seat) and I am lengthening the nose a bit
(Per Bernard's suggestion due to a lighter motor), AND I am using the
GA-30-613.5 airfoil. One last thing is the extra bay's I am adding to
the wing tips and deepening the spars (keeping them at 1" thick,
carefully routed for lightness) and moving the strut connection points
out one bay to support the extra bays, and I felt I needed to insure
the changes all fit when I hit the shop.
I know that sounds like lots of changes, but the design elements all
take the same Piet form, and I am building an airplane that will be
mine until I decide I don't want it anymore, or can't fly, so I felt
I'd build it to fit ME, not Bernard :o)
I drew the metal parts (not fully completed) to fit the changes, and
that included adding the 1/2" to the strut attachments all around to
make the connections easier. I had read comments here about that
already.
Again, heresy I know, but it's gonna be mine when I'm done :o)
Sketchup allowed me to measure the proper distances, and to correct
the tail sections to be the proper area to match the wing changes,
etc. I know, one change creates a hundred others, but it's kept my
head into the dream for a year and a half when I couldn't buy spit.
So, it was accomplishing something for me and now I can begin the
build proper...
Thanks for all the feedback on the table. My first thing I'll be doing
(after taking a trip to the Groah's with my camera) is to build the
table. Once that is over I will feel as though I am really gonna build
me a plane!
Mark
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM, V Groah <vgroah@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Correctgood idea. Vic
>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench
>> From: hangar10@cox.net
>> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:25:18 -0800
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:
>> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in
>> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to an
>> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He owns a
>> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for his
>> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!
>> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"
>>
>>
>> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings, cabane
>> strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue about 1/2"
>> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made to the
>> plans can create minor clearance issues.
>>
>>
>> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:
>> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?
>>
>>
>> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this forum for
>> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build time,
>> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an online
>> version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and will
>> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to see
>> an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.
>>
>> --------
>> Mark Chouinard
>> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330465#330465
>>
>>
>>
>>
> >======================
> &g===================
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
I painted the top of my workbench with white undercoat, parts such as the
fuselage can be drawn on the surface with a fine pencil and erased or
painted over when finished, my bench has built: a Jodel, a Corby, now a
Piet, and a couple of strip canoes, a friend also used it to build a Kr2,
each being lofted directly on the surface of the bench. Any dents or holes
the bench accumulates can be filled in and painted over like new. Mike T.
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Perry,
My dad and I are in Tulare Ca (about 45 miles south of Fresno).
Mike Groah
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:08 PM, "PShipman" <perrytshipman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Vic,
>
> I take it you and your son are in Fresno???
>
> --------
> Perry Shipman
> Lakeside, CA
>
>
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Why not just put the plan set in sketchup as is and hit the
magnification key? That way the whole damn thing will be
in proportion only bigger.
Right? Am I right or what!
Clif :-)
"The man who has no imagination has no wings." ~ Muhammad Ali
>
> At 6'4" and almost as big around, I am needing the extra width to the
> fuse (28" wide at the back seat) and I am lengthening the nose a bit
> (Per Bernard's suggestion due to a lighter motor), AND I am using the
> GA-30-613.5 airfoil. One last thing is the extra bay's I am adding to
> the wing tips and deepening the spars (keeping them at 1" thick,
> carefully routed for lightness) and moving the strut connection points
> out one bay to support the extra bays, and I felt I needed to insure
> the changes all fit when I hit the shop.
>
> I know that sounds like lots of changes, but the design elements all
> take the same Piet form, and I am building an airplane that will be
> mine until I decide I don't want it anymore, or can't fly, so I felt
> I'd build it to fit ME, not Bernard :o)
I am really gonna build
> me a plane!
>
> Mark
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Subject: | Re: Band Type Brake Cable |
Whatever type of brake cables you end up using, be sure to lube them with grease,
and NOT oil... the oil will run out/ evaporate over time (less time than
you think) and make the cables stick and bind. I lube the clutch and throttle
cables on my motorcycle with lithium grease once a year, and never have problems
with them. You can get a small cable lubing device from most any motorcycle
shop that clamps around the cable and allows you to use a spray lube in a can
with the little red straw to directly inject the lube down into the sheath.
Just lube until you see the grease coming out the other end and your cable
will be happy for quite some time.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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