Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 02/13/11


Total Messages Posted: 44



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     1. 04:12 AM - Re: Piet Progress (helspersew@aol.com)
     2. 04:55 AM - Re: Gardiner Mason's Piet (Jerry Dotson)
     3. 05:51 AM - Pietenpol Progress II (Jerry Dotson)
     4. 07:07 AM - Tail Wheel Weight FYI (Jack)
     5. 07:35 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Weight FYI (Jack Phillips)
     6. 07:36 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Weight FYI (Jack Phillips)
     7. 08:25 AM - Re: Pilot Height (Don Emch)
     8. 08:27 AM - Re: hangar life isn't so bad....... (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com)
     9. 09:31 AM - Re: Pilot Height (kevinpurtee)
    10. 09:34 AM - Re: Pietenpol Progress II (kevinpurtee)
    11. 11:08 AM - Richard's Piet on wire wheels for first time in his shop in Indiana (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
    12. 11:40 AM - Re: Ribs (Gboothe5)
    13. 11:49 AM - Re: Ribs (Gboothe5)
    14. 12:15 PM - Re: Pilot Height (K5YAC)
    15. 12:15 PM - B&B turnbuckles (Douwe Blumberg)
    16. 12:41 PM - Re: Ribs (Jim Boyer)
    17. 12:42 PM - Re: Ribs (K5YAC)
    18. 12:47 PM - Progress Pics (Dangerous Dave)
    19. 01:18 PM - Re: B&B turnbuckles (Jerry Dotson)
    20. 01:21 PM - Gross weight of pietenpol (pilotjkl)
    21. 01:46 PM - New little Pietenpoler (JohnC)
    22. 02:08 PM - Re: Ribs (Jack Phillips)
    23. 02:13 PM - Re: Gross weight of pietenpol (Jack Phillips)
    24. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: Ribs (Gary Boothe)
    25. 02:35 PM - Re: Ribs (Gary Boothe)
    26. 02:46 PM - Re: Ribs (Gary Boothe)
    27. 03:10 PM - Re: Gross weight of pietenpol (pilotjkl)
    28. 04:54 PM - Re: Ribs (Jim Markle)
    29. 05:02 PM - Re: Ribs (Bill Church)
    30. 05:04 PM - Re: Ribs (Jim Boyer)
    31. 05:26 PM - Re: Pietenpol Progress II (airlion)
    32. 05:48 PM - Re: Piet Progress (Michael Perez)
    33. 05:49 PM - Re: Pietenpol Progress II (Dangerous Dave)
    34. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Mike Tunnicliffe)
    35. 07:23 PM - Re: Ribs (kevinpurtee)
    36. 07:25 PM - Re: New little Pietenpoler (kevinpurtee)
    37. 07:26 PM - For Jim Boyer (kevinpurtee)
    38. 07:44 PM - Re: Pietenpol Progress II (Jerry Dotson)
    39. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: Pilot Height (Matthew VanDervort)
    40. 08:42 PM - Re: Richard's Piet on wire wheels for first time in his shop in Indiana (Richard Schreiber)
    41. 09:09 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Mark Roberts)
    42. 09:15 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Mark Roberts)
    43. 09:26 PM - Posting photos (Billy McCaskill)
    44. 11:41 PM - Re: B&B turnbuckles (bubbleboy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:12:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Piet Progress
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Rick, Looks great Rick!! It's always a great feeling of accomplishment to finally get some major components assembled. There seems to be a number of guys th at are making major progress lately. I predict larger numbers of Piets at B rodhead in the coming years. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net> Sent: Sat, Feb 12, 2011 2:42 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet Progress I thought I would post an update photo of my progress. Here is a picture I took this morning of my Pietenpol with its wheels on for the first time. Fi nished up the axle welding yesterday. When I bolted on the brakes and put t he wheels on everything fit perfect!. The cowling is finished from the fire wall back. Now I really have no excuse to finish up my corvair engine. By the way, I used Buchanan spokes, but did not have them laced up by Bucha nans. My next door neighbor restores motorcycles and he and I did it oursel ves. It was any easy process and fun to do. As soon as the weather breaks this spring, I'll be moving the Piet out to t he hanger and putting on the wings. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso IN


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    Time: 04:55:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gardiner Mason's Piet
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    Oscar I sure wish I had known you were coming through. I live about an hour away from the I-65-US 41 intersection. I could have driven up there and bought lunch or at least a cup of coffee. Pietenpol owners are a rare breed around here. I saw Gardiner's Piet in August 2009 when I drove up to Atlanta to pick up the spruce, plywood and 4130 for my Piet. Does the photo look like the trim tab you mention? do not archive -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330865#330865 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/a14_693.jpg


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    Time: 05:51:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Pietenpol Progress II
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    On 1/22/2011 I enlisted friends and loved ones to help me hang the 1 piece wing for the first time. I will be so proud to hang it with covering and paint on it. If I had it to do again I would build the 3 piece. Covering will be a challenge by myself. It looks like there will be several Piets finished in a year or so. I hope to fly in 2011. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330868#330868 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/a10_173.jpg


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    Time: 07:07:16 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Tail Wheel Weight FYI
    Weighed my Scott tail wheel at 4.9 pounds. The Matco is 4.75 pounds per their site. Both 6" solid rubber. My leaf springs cam in at 2.5 pounds. Jack DSM


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    Time: 07:35:49 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Tail Wheel Weight FYI
    Try the AS&S Homebuilt Special tailwheel. I think it weighs around 3 lbs (4" diameter). And the Pietenpol A-Arm Coil Spring configuration is about a pound or two lighter than a leaf spring. I cut 2 lbs off my tailwheel weight by using that design with the 4" tailwheel instead of a 6". Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Weighed my Scott tail wheel at 4.9 pounds. The Matco is 4.75 pounds per their site. Both 6" solid rubber. My leaf springs cam in at 2.5 pounds. Jack DSM


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    Time: 07:36:00 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Tail Wheel Weight FYI
    Try the AS&S Homebuilt Special tailwheel. I think it weighs around 3 lbs (4" diameter). And the Pietenpol A-Arm Coil Spring configuration is about a pound or two lighter than a leaf spring. I cut 2 lbs off my tailwheel weight by using that design with the 4" tailwheel instead of a 6". Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Weighed my Scott tail wheel at 4.9 pounds. The Matco is 4.75 pounds per their site. Both 6" solid rubber. My leaf springs cam in at 2.5 pounds. Jack DSM


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    Time: 08:25:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pilot Height
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Hey Mark... You really should have gotten yourself in mine. It's all in the technique. I'm 6'3" long. I built it to the plans and I fit great. However, I've flown Allen Rudolph's old Piet and had a little trouble. It has the shorter fuselage and my shins got a little marked up. As long as you are building the long fuselage you'll be fine. As far as interference with the rudder, hmm...I think that radiator up front on the Ford ships would be a problem long before a taller head would be. Never heard of a problem there, so... I sure wouldn't be worried about it. If you have any doubts you just need to meet Big Jim Vandervort! He would make you feel at ease! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330888#330888


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    Time: 08:27:15 AM PST US
    From: SENTUCHOWS@aol.com
    Subject: Re: hangar life isn't so bad.......
    Hey Skip, We met at Hendersonville a couple summers ago. I'm Bob's hangar mate. How's the Piet coming along? Dave


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    Time: 09:31:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pilot Height
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Mark - I'll save you all this worry. I'll come up and take that inappropriately sized project off your hands, and I'll only charge you for the transportation..... do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330898#330898


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    Time: 09:34:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Progress II
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Very nice! My only complaint about building the 1 piece wing was that, during covering, I always had to find someone to help me flip it over, and there's not always someone handy. It's a big piece of plane. -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330899#330899


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    Time: 11:08:28 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Richard's Piet on wire wheels for first time in his shop
    in Indiana Outstanding to see you're great winter progress and the photo update of your Pietenpol Rick ! Your wire wheels look great, your landing gear legs nice and streamlined and nose fuel tank all strapped down in place. Center section done and tailfeathers. Sure looks inspiring to those of us who are flying, those who are still building, and even to those who have JUST started building. You've stuck in out year after year and keep plugging away and the fruits of your labor are really, really starting to show nicely. One you move your project to the hangar this spring expect lots and lots of curious visitors and be ready to answer a myriad of questions--but you'll enjoy it. Just tell them before you will answer any question they must bring a donation to help keep your hangar fridge stocked with refreshments:) Mike C.


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    Time: 11:40:23 AM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Ribs
    Oh, Ye of little faith! Count 'em..28 + 2 in the center section = 30!! Now, can PLEASE get back to the Good Stuff? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I call BS.....make them, prove it! :) do not archive On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: 2 to go! Dares I say I'll finish this weekend? Gary Boothe " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:49:54 AM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Ribs
    .and here's the proof! Oh, Ye of little faith! Count 'em..28 + 2 in the center section = 30!! Now, can PLEASE get back to the Good Stuff? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I call BS.....make them, prove it! :) do not archive On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: 2 to go! Dares I say I'll finish this weekend? Gary Boothe " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 12:15:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pilot Height
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Don... thanks for the reassurance. Sometimes I get caught up in all the controversy. I looked back and found that I've already been given answers to some of these questions, that's why I chose to make the few minor adjustments that I did (leaning the seat back a bit, raising the wing 2", planning to move the rudder bar forward a little and cut those shin holes out a bit). Nothing drastic, but sometimes I forget how I arrived at those decisions... all of it was recommended by those of you that have DONE IT! I need to quit getting worried about the things I've already been offered a solution to. And you are right... that Ford radiator is much taller than I am. Kevin... thanks for the offer buddy. With friends like you, well... no, you can't have it. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330911#330911


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    Time: 12:15:59 PM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: B&B turnbuckles
    Someone just posted it, but I can't find it, can someone give me the contact info for B&B where we get the turnbuckles so cheap?? Thanks Douwe Do not archive.


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    Time: 12:41:07 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Ribs
    Gary the wing ribs look good in a stack like that. Its a good feeling to have them done. Cheers, Jim B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 11:46:39 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs .and here's the proof! Oh, Ye of little faith! Count 'em..28 + 2 in the center section = 30!! Now, can PLEASE get back to the Good Stuff? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I call BS.....make them, prove it! :) do not archive On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: 2 to go! Dares I say I'll finish this weekend? Gary Boothe " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 12:42:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ribs
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote: > and heres the proof! > > That is definitely Photoshopped. [Laughing] -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330915#330915


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    Time: 12:47:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Progress Pics
    From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
    Howdy.getting closer-paint next weekend,dave -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330920#330920 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2011_02_13_13_11_02_986_196.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2011_02_13_13_10_12_328_207.jpg


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    Time: 01:18:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: B&B turnbuckles
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    B & B Aircraft Supplies. PO Box 37, Gardner, Kansas 66030, Phone (913) 884-5930. I bought all my turnbuckles for $7.50 each.-----turnbuckles This I copied a few days back...saved for hard times! -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330927#330927


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    Time: 01:21:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Gross weight of pietenpol
    From: "pilotjkl" <pilot@fehrsmetalbuilding.com>
    Wondering what is the Pietenpol gross weight? I read about 1050 1150 1180 and 1200 lbs Thanks John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330928#330928


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    Time: 01:46:26 PM PST US
    Subject: New little Pietenpoler
    From: "JohnC" <jcalvert@trinityvideo.net>
    Hey Everyone, I just became a Grandpa a few hours ago, so it looks like I will be driving "Granny" out to Missouri this evening. We will be in Mount Vernon for about a week, and if there are any Pietenpols around those parts, maybe I could sneek off for a few hours. I will attempt to add a photo, hope it works. -------- I just hope when it's my turn to reach up and touch the face of God, I don't poke him in the eye on accident. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330932#330932 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/grandson_693.jpg


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    Time: 02:08:38 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Ribs
    I counted them and only got 26. You've still got 2 to go, Gary. "MaryBeth, you've been sitting with a Four Flusher" Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs .and here's the proof! Oh, Ye of little faith! Count 'em..28 + 2 in the center section = 30!! Now, can PLEASE get back to the Good Stuff? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I call BS.....make them, prove it! :) do not archive On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: 2 to go! Dares I say I'll finish this weekend? Gary Boothe " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 02:13:59 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Gross weight of pietenpol
    It's Experimental, and you are the manufacturer. The Gross Weight on the dataplate is whatever you say it is. I think the original was 1090 or something like that. If you go much above that it wouldn't hurt to have an engineer look at what you've built. Impossible to say without seeing what changes have been made to the design. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotjkl Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gross weight of pietenpol <pilot@fehrsmetalbuilding.com> Wondering what is the Pietenpol gross weight? I read about 1050 1150 1180 and 1200 lbs Thanks John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330928#330928


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    Time: 02:30:26 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Ribs
    Ha! Yeah...just copy and paste! Ribs all sanded...now to cut to length. I liked Jack's cutoff jig. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:40 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ribs gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote: > and heres the proof! > > That is definitely Photoshopped. [Laughing] -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330915#330915


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    Time: 02:35:18 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Ribs
    Jim, You can't imagine the RELIEF! Just looked back in the log...the first rib was done on 3/21/08!! One month less than 3 years ago! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear, RIBS DONE! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs Gary the wing ribs look good in a stack like that. Its a good feeling to have them done. Cheers, Jim B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 11:46:39 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs .and here's the proof! Oh, Ye of little faith! Count 'em..28 + 2 in the center section = 30!! Now, can PLEASE get back to the Good Stuff? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I call BS.....make them, prove it! :) do not archive On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: 2 to go! Dares I say I'll finish this weekend? Gary Boothe " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 02:46:02 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Ribs
    Jack, Ever stick a pin in a balloon? Hand to God - all the ribs are numbered.but 17 & 18 are missing! Makes me curious about those leftover bearings I had from the engine.'course, I did have a visit from Markle...yeah, that's it.it must have been him! Gary _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:06 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I counted them and only got 26. You've still got 2 to go, Gary. "MaryBeth, you've been sitting with a Four Flusher" Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs .and here's the proof! Oh, Ye of little faith! Count 'em..28 + 2 in the center section = 30!! Now, can PLEASE get back to the Good Stuff? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I call BS.....make them, prove it! :) do not archive On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: 2 to go! Dares I say I'll finish this weekend? Gary Boothe " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:10:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gross weight of pietenpol
    From: "pilotjkl" <pilot@fehrsmetalbuilding.com>
    Thanks for the reply, I thought it was established by the designer through stress testing John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330943#330943


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    Time: 04:54:31 PM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Ribs
    Well I SURE wouldn't take any of your bearings!!!!...that topic is WAAAAY too hot around here!!! But it was so kind of you NOT blaming me for YOU taking sooooooo long to get those darn ribs finished (wow, I'm asking for it aren't I?!?!) :-) Ok, seriously, I do think it's pretty neat to hear about your progress! Jim -----Original Message----- From: Gary Boothe Sent: Feb 13, 2011 4:42 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rib Jack, Ever stick a pin in a balloon? Hand to God all the ribs are numberedbut 17 & 18 are missing! Makes me curious about those leftover bearings I had from the enginecourse, I did have a visit from Markle..yeah, thats itit must have been him! Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:06 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I counted them and only got 26. Youve still got 2 to go, Gary. MaryBeth, youve been sitting with a Four Flusher Jack Phillips NX899JP Icarus Plummet Raleigh, NC From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs and heres the proof! Oh, Ye of little faith! Count em.28 + 2 in the center section = 30!! Now, can PLEASE get back to the Good Stuff? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I call BS.....make them, prove it! :) do not archive On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: 2 to go! Dares I say Ill finish this weekend? Gary Boothe " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listtp://forums.matronics.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:02:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ribs
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Hmmm... I count 52... But the pliers are missing now. Bill C do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330955#330955 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/52_ribs_409.jpg


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    Time: 05:04:22 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Ribs
    Gary you took as long to do the wing ribs as I did to do the steel parts. I don't have the problem with steel now but sure hated them at first. Congratulations on getting the ribs done. Jim B. Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:32:04 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs Jim, You can't imagine the RELIEF! Just looked back in the log...the first rib was done on 3/21/08!! One month less than 3 years ago! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear, RIBS DONE! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs Gary the wing ribs look good in a stack like that. Its a good feeling to have them done. Cheers, Jim B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 11:46:39 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs .and here's the proof! Oh, Ye of little faith! Count 'em..28 + 2 in the center section = 30!! Now, can PLEASE get back to the Good Stuff? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I call BS.....make them, prove it! :) do not archive On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: 2 to go! Dares I say I'll finish this weekend? Gary Boothe " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:26:34 PM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Progress II
    Jerry, It is good to see your progress. I plan to make Evergreen and Thomasville this summer and hope to see your there. Will you be going to Brodhead? You Should. Gardiner ----- Original Message ---- From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net> Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 8:48:36 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Progress II On 1/22/2011 I enlisted friends and loved ones to help me hang the 1 piece wing for the first time. I will be so proud to hang it with covering and paint on it. If I had it to do again I would build the 3 piece. Covering will be a challenge by myself. It looks like there will be several Piets finished in a year or so. I hope to fly in 2011. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330868#330868 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/a10_173.jpg


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    Time: 05:48:35 PM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Piet Progress
    Fantastic! I am always surprised at how often about the time I get to a certain point in my build, someone else is at the same place in their build! Just today, (Sunday) I tied to axle on the legs, slid the wheels on and set the fuse down on all three just to see how it looked. I still need to do all the axle welding, brake install, etc. Your plane looks great, keep us posted on your next milestone. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com --- On Sat, 2/12/11, Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet Progress > To: "pietenpol-list" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 3:39 PM > > > > > > > I thought I would post an update photo of my progress. > Here is a picture I took this morning of my Pietenpol with > its wheels on for the first time. Finished up the axle > welding yesterday. When I bolted on the brakes and put the > wheels on everything fit perfect!. The cowling is finished > from the firewall back. Now I really have no excuse to > finish up my corvair engine. > > By the way, I used Buchanan spokes, but did not have > them laced up by Buchanans. My next door neighbor restores > motorcycles and he and I did it ourselves. It was any easy > process and fun to do. > > As soon as the weather breaks this spring, I'll be > moving the Piet out to the hanger and putting on the > wings. > > > Rick Schreiber > Valparaiso IN >


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    Time: 05:49:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Progress II
    From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
    Jerry its looks great!How about building a stand for holding and turning it make everything better.I used mine for the wings and.fuselage.Keep up the good work_.dave. -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330961#330961


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    Time: 06:37:19 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Tunnicliffe" <zk-owl@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
    Subject: Re: leading edge plywood
    I use used plastic strapping from parcels, the heavier stuff can be pulled up and it lifts the staples out with it. The glue doesn't stick to it either. Mike T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOMIT" <rx7_ragtop@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:42 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood > > Just a thought on staples... Since epoxy won't stick to duct tape (the > outside of it) how about folding a strip of duct tape (sticky side > together) and stapling through it? When the glue is cured it would make > pulling the staples easier... > > -------- > Brad &quot;DOMIT&quot; Smith > > First rule of ground school: This is the ground... don't hit it going > fast. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330615#330615 > > >


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    Time: 07:23:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ribs
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Just in the nick of time, buddy! Congrats, Gary:). do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330975#330975


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    Time: 07:25:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: New little Pietenpoler
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    He's beautiful! Congratulations, Grandfather. Do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330976#330976


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    Time: 07:26:56 PM PST US
    Subject: For Jim Boyer
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Jim - Sorry, meant the Cactus fly-in in March. Will you all make that? I'm still here:(. Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330977#330977


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    Time: 07:44:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Progress II
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    Gardiner I will be at Evergreen and hope to make Thomasville. I may have to drive because I don't know when my Piet is going to be ready and Phase 1 flown off. Thanks Dave for the atta boy. The weather is turning my way now I will make more progress. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330982#330982


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    Time: 08:04:33 PM PST US
    From: Matthew VanDervort <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Pilot Height
    Yep, grandpa "big Jim Vandervort is 6' 6" and he flew all the time, no wing flap either, I'll check the plans and measure the cabanes tomorrow to see if they are any longer then the plans Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2011, at 11:22 AM, "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote: > > Hey Mark... > You really should have gotten yourself in mine. It's all in the technique. I'm 6'3" long. I built it to the plans and I fit great. However, I've flown Allen Rudolph's old Piet and had a little trouble. It has the shorter fuselage and my shins got a little marked up. As long as you are building the long fuselage you'll be fine. As far as interference with the rudder, hmm...I think that radiator up front on the Ford ships would be a problem long before a taller head would be. Never heard of a problem there, so... I sure wouldn't be worried about it. If you have any doubts you just need to meet Big Jim Vandervort! He would make you feel at ease! > > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330888#330888 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:42:43 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Richard's Piet on wire wheels for first time in his
    shop in Indiana Thanks Mike, Greg, Kevin, Vic, Dan and any one else I may have missed !! All of you have been an on going help and inspiration for this project. I started by building the ribs first in May of 2003. I tried to work as often as I could, but work and travel made it a difficult task at times. As I continued on the path, going to Brodhead every year and seeing other builders progress on the web was a constant spirit lifter. I always had goals that I was trying to get done, like.....finish the ribs, do the wings, make the gear legs. It always seemed so far in the future, but if you just have faith and plug away, it finally gets done. As I have mentioned in the past, I am fortunate in that there is a core group at my home airport (VPZ - Porter Co. Indiana) that are very supportive. There are AP's, IA's, aircraft builders, rebuilders, Pietenpol builders, gear heads, motorcycle nuts and general all around good people. Most of them are keeping track of my progress. Since I am now semi-retired I am out at the airport most days using machinery to get parts made or welding done. Rick Schreiber > [Original Message] > From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Date: 2/13/2011 1:10:07 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Richard's Piet on wire wheels for first time in his shop in Indiana > AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> > > > Outstanding to see you're great winter progress and the photo update of your Pietenpol Rick ! Your wire wheels look great, your > landing gear legs nice and streamlined and nose fuel tank all strapped down in place. Center section done and tailfeathers. > > Sure looks inspiring to those of us who are flying, those who are still building, and even to those who have JUST started building. > You've stuck in out year after year and keep plugging away and the fruits of your labor are really, really starting to show nicely. > > One you move your project to the hangar this spring expect lots and lots of curious visitors and be ready to answer a myriad of > questions--but you'll enjoy it. Just tell them before you will answer any question they must bring a donation to help keep your > hangar fridge stocked with refreshments:) > > Mike C. > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 09:09:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench
    From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
    Hey Jack: You are right that drawing hte plane in sketch Up took some time that I would have rather been building, but I have not been empoloyed for a year and 3 months until recently... Thus I had plenty of time to dream and draw the changes and modifications it will take to fit my big body into the plane... However, I'd MUCH rather make sawdust! Mark On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com> wrote: > Jack > > I'm hoping that the little time I have spent on this converts to lots of > GOOD saw dust and very little BAD saw dust...lol > > Sketchup is a free 3D cad program from Google...... > > Chuck > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrote: > >> pietflyr@bellsouth.net> >> >> Where do you guys find this scatsup, or sketchup or whatever you call it? >> Seems that you are spending an inordinate amount of time on it that could >> be >> spent making sawdust. Of course, it may be critical to determining your >> paint scheme. >> >> Jack Phillips >> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" >> Raleigh, NC >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gtche98 >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:43 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench >> >> >> Good job on the models guys. In the process of trying to teach myself how >> to use sketch-up (I have zero CAD experience), I tried to draw just a >> single >> rib. Two hours later, I gave up with little more than the airfoil profile >> to show for it. >> >> I wish that you could buy a sketch-up model of the plane with the plans. >> it >> would be nice to be able to spin a model around in 3 dimensions to figure >> out how some things go together. Maybe one of you that are more talented >> than I should offer to sell the rights to one of your models. :) >> >> -------- >> Gary Wilson >> Greenville Wisconsin >> gtche98 (at) gmail ((dot)) com >> Planning Phase >> >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330684#330684 >> >> utilities such as List Un/Subscription, >> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ==== >> >> >> >> > * > > * > >


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    Time: 09:15:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench
    From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
    Hey Gary! Thanks for the moral support! If you make it down to Fresno any time soon, I'd love to show you the new Airplane Factory we are moving into... The Barn is perfect for making airplanes! Plus, I think it's time for me to buy YOUR dinner :o) I am SO looking forward to starting the process... Can't wait to get settled into the new digs, and start making sawdust... Gimme a call if you get down this way: 559-917-5904 Mark On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > Mark, > > Flamed, Yes. Banned, I don't think so... > > Most of what you propose has already been done, to some extent. 4' center > sections, enlarged tail surfaces, deeper fuselage, taller panel and > turtledeck, tipped back pilot seat, etc. The only new idea I see is the > plastic drag 'wires'...interesting idea! I say, "Experiment away...!" And > let He Who Says He Built To Plans speak up, 'cause I have yet to see anyone > with a ternplate fuel tank... > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark > Roberts > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:10 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench > > Well, Chuck, you are really trying to get me Flamed, banned and thrown off > this list! :o) > > Glad to share what I have done so far. I know many that would say what I am > doing is perverting a great design, and thus far I have kept my design > elements quiet so as not to disrupt the flow of ideas here, but perhaps > there are other 'larger than should be' folks like me out there, and so I > will share, for better or for worse, my intended design modifications. > > I am not an aeronautical engineer (neither was our beloved designer of the > original), but a long time modeler and designer and I am making the wing > mod's based on structural info I have found that seem to verify that the > wing spars are of more than sufficient strength at 1" > thick, and an additional 1" taller than originally called out --5.75" > in the fore spar, 5 5/8" in the rear--(Bernie's later designs were using > 3/4" thick spars, not the 1" thick he originally drew in the plans). The > wing bays are an added 2' on each side, requiring the modifications of the > tail surfaces to meet the design requirements of stability with the extra > wing. I might add a bit more to the fin/rudder area to insure the stability > and avoid a potential spin problem mentioned earlier in this posting > series. > To accommodate the added wing bays, I moved the spar attachments out one > bay, lengthening the wing struts a bit. I will be putting Jury struts on > the > struts as recommended, and required by this additional length. > > These mods are not all completed in my sketch up drawing, but some can be > seen in the design attached. I played around with a concept you'll see on > these drawings that I found in a build of another plans built LSA design: > the AMF 14H Miranda. The designed used fiber reinforced strapping material > for the drag/anti-drag wires verses cable and turnbuckles. He saved a TON > of > weight, and an equal amount of money as those turnbuckles cost more than > the > birth of my children... You can see this on the website > www.mywoodenairplane.com which is an online build log. The guy has a bunch > left over and would most likely sell a bunch of it cheap. He's a nice guy > too... This tape/ribbon is the stuff you see and get wrapped around any > large box that's been shipped. It's the stuff that has a heat sealed > connection with the other end of the tape where they meet. (It's not the > stuff on a roll that is sticky and you buy it at Office Max... this is the > stuff you can't break for your life.). Many of us have opened this stuff by > turning it over at the joint where the 2 ends meet and peeling one end away > from the other end and it releases the bond... Great stuff for the > drag/anti-drag system, and just as strong as the steel and turnbuckles they > replace. Anyway, that's what you see below drawn into the wing. It is just > one side of it. I need to draw in the other side of the system, but now I > can actually start building, so I will most likely wait till I get closer > to > that assembly. > > Anyway, this is why it is called 'experimental' right ;o) I won't be > the first guy to try something, but if it looks to be done somewhere else, > I > will consider it if it seemed to work out ok for the other guy > :o) > > Here's the pics of the drawing so far. > > Mark > > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Mark > > > > Could you post a Jpg of your piet model in sketchup? Just wanted to > > see what your model looks like and how far along you are on it..... > > > > Chuck > > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> --> <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> > >> > >> Well, at the risk of getting flamed, or worse yet, branded as a Piet > >> Heretic, I am building my virtual Piet in Google Sketch Up because of > >> some of the design elements I am changing to meet my particular needs. > >> > >> At 6'4" and almost as big around, I am needing the extra width to the > >> fuse (28" wide at the back seat) and I am lengthening the nose a bit > >> (Per Bernard's suggestion due to a lighter motor), AND I am using the > >> GA-30-613.5 airfoil. One last thing is the extra bay's I am adding > >> to the wing tips and deepening the spars (keeping them at 1" thick, > >> carefully routed for lightness) and moving the strut connection > >> points out one bay to support the extra bays, and I felt I needed to > >> insure the changes all fit when I hit the shop. > >> > >> I know that sounds like lots of changes, but the design elements all > >> take the same Piet form, and I am building an airplane that will be > >> mine until I decide I don't want it anymore, or can't fly, so I felt > >> I'd build it to fit ME, not Bernard :o) > >> > >> I drew the metal parts (not fully completed) to fit the changes, and > >> that included adding the 1/2" to the strut attachments all around to > >> make the connections easier. I had read comments here about that > >> already. > >> > >> Again, heresy I know, but it's gonna be mine when I'm done :o) > >> > >> Sketchup allowed me to measure the proper distances, and to correct > >> the tail sections to be the proper area to match the wing changes, > >> etc. I know, one change creates a hundred others, but it's kept my > >> head into the dream for a year and a half when I couldn't buy spit. > >> So, it was accomplishing something for me and now I can begin the > >> build proper... > >> > >> Thanks for all the feedback on the table. My first thing I'll be > >> doing (after taking a trip to the Groah's with my camera) is to build > >> the table. Once that is over I will feel as though I am really gonna > >> build me a plane! > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM, V Groah <vgroah@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > Correct good idea. Vic > >> > > >> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench > >> >> From: hangar10@cox.net > >> >> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:25:18 -0800 > >> >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote: > >> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up > >> >> > in Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can > >> >> > deliver them to an old acquaintance I have recently renewed a > >> >> > relationship with. He owns a steel fabrication company, and has > >> >> > a laser cutting machine for his fabrication plant. He said "How > >> >> > thick are the parts? NO problem! > >> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to > >> >> > perfection!" > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach > >> >> fittings, cabane strut fittings and anything else that might be a > >> >> clearance issue about 1/2" > >> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings > >> >> made to the plans can create minor clearance issues. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote: > >> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this > >> >> forum for us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to > >> >> track build time, photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. > >> >> You can post an online version to the web and the print version is > >> >> formatted very nicely and will make a nice hardcopy of the log > >> >> book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to see an example, check out > >> >> my kitlog link in my signature below. > >> >> > >> >> -------- > >> >> Mark Chouinard > >> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on > >> >> Fuselage > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Read this topic online here: > >> >> > >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330465#330465 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > &gt====================== > >> > &g=================== > >> >> > >> >&===== > >> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" > >> target="_blank">ht====== > >> http://forums.mle, List Admin. > >> ==== > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > =========== > =========== > =========== > =========== > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:26:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Posting photos
    From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
    I know this has been covered from time to time in the past, but with many new members lately I think it's time to bring this up again as a friendly reminder. Some of you are posting photos that are so large that I have to scroll side to side and up and down just to see one photo, making it hard sometimes to even see what I'm looking at. We all love to see the photos of the progress, or of certain construction details to answer specific questions, but PLEASE resize your photos down to a more reasonable size like 800x600 pixels. It really makes it much more pleasurable to look at a whole image at one time rather than looking at a fraction of an exceptionally large image trying to figure out what you're looking at. It also makes the text from the replies much easier to read without having to scroll side to side numerous times. And by downsizing your photos, it will make them upload faster and save bandwidth on the Matronics list. Thanks! -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330990#330990


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    Time: 11:41:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: B&B turnbuckles
    From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
    I met Carson Vella from Brisbane today. He called in to have a look at where I am up to and share the photos of his Piet progress. He mentioned about these turnbuckles to me. Im still in the very early stages of building but when a bargain comes along I try and collect as many parts as I can. I havent looked at the turnbuckles on the plans to know what size and how many I will need. Apparently B & B doesn't have an email address and will not send overseas which is a bummer for me! Would anyone who hasn't ordered theirs and is going to, be prepared to order me a set and post them too me here in Australia? Of course I will reimburse full costs of the turnbuckles with postage and will shout you a beer too! Cheers Scotty Australia -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330996#330996




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