---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/14/11: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:51 AM - Re: Re: New little Pietenpoler (Jack) 2. 03:26 AM - Re: Re: B&B turnbuckles (Jack) 3. 03:26 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Weight FYI (Charles Campbell) 4. 03:29 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Weight FYI (Charles Campbell) 5. 03:35 AM - Re: Ribs (Charles Campbell) 6. 03:51 AM - Re: New little Pietenpoler (Charles Campbell) 7. 04:16 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Weight FYI (Jack Phillips) 8. 07:10 AM - Re: hangar life isn't so bad....... (TOM STINEMETZE) 9. 08:05 AM - Re: New little Pietenpoler (TOM STINEMETZE) 10. 08:32 AM - Re: B&B turnbuckles (bender) 11. 12:18 PM - Making airplane sounds... (aerocarjake) 12. 12:45 PM - Re: Tail Wheel Weight FYI (Charles Campbell) 13. 12:52 PM - Re: Making airplane sounds... (Charles Campbell) 14. 01:07 PM - Re: Making airplane sounds... (Jack Phillips) 15. 01:11 PM - I have a 4" diameter ACS 'Homebuilder's Special' tailwheel and two leaf springs (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 16. 01:36 PM - Re: I have a 4" diameter ACS 'Homebuilder's Special' tailwheel and two leaf springs (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 17. 01:36 PM - Re: For Jim Boyer (Jim Boyer) 18. 01:41 PM - Re: Making airplane sounds... (aerocarjake) 19. 02:52 PM - Re: Pilot Height (aerocarjake) 20. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: Making airplane sounds... (Rick Holland) 21. 07:10 PM - Re: Re: Pilot Height (Kenneth Bickers) 22. 07:39 PM - Re: Re: Pilot Height (Kimball Isaac) 23. 08:48 PM - Prince A-75 Propeller For Sale (Steve Ruse) 24. 08:53 PM - Re: Pilot Height (VanDy) 25. 09:16 PM - Re: Pilot Height (K5YAC) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:52 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: New little Pietenpoler Abby, 10 weeks, Lab... :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New little Pietenpoler He's beautiful! Congratulations, Grandfather. Do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330976#330976 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:30 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: B&B turnbuckles Scott, I could assist if you want. First I would suggest searching eBay for awhile, I purchased more than I needed for under $100. B&B are great folks. I know I receive anything ordered before they get my check. From experience their inventory can be limited so they may not have everything you need. If you want me to help send me a detailed listing of what you want off list. Jack DSM -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 1:39 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: B&B turnbuckles I met Carson Vella from Brisbane today. He called in to have a look at where I am up to and share the photos of his Piet progress. He mentioned about these turnbuckles to me. Im still in the very early stages of building but when a bargain comes along I try and collect as many parts as I can. I havent looked at the turnbuckles on the plans to know what size and how many I will need. Apparently B & B doesn't have an email address and will not send overseas which is a bummer for me! Would anyone who hasn't ordered theirs and is going to, be prepared to order me a set and post them too me here in Australia? Of course I will reimburse full costs of the turnbuckles with postage and will shout you a beer too! Cheers Scotty Australia -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330996#330996 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:51 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Tail Wheel Weight FYI ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Try the AS&S Homebuilt Special tailwheel. I think it weighs around 3 lbs (4" diameter). And the Pietenpol A-Arm Coil Spring configuration is about a pound or two lighter than a leaf spring. I cut 2 lbs off my tailwheel weight by using that design with the 4" tailwheel instead of a 6". Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:04 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Weighed my Scott tail wheel at 4.9 pounds. The Matco is 4.75 pounds per their site. Both 6" solid rubber. My leaf springs cam in at 2.5 pounds. Jack DSM http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:35 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Tail Wheel Weight FYIRe: AS&S Homebuilt Special tailwheel. Jack, I am very interested in the tail wheel you mentioned. I can't find it in the AS&S listing for tailwheels. How do I find it? Chuck in Winston-Salem. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Try the AS&S Homebuilt Special tailwheel. I think it weighs around 3 lbs (4" diameter). And the Pietenpol A-Arm Coil Spring configuration is about a pound or two lighter than a leaf spring. I cut 2 lbs off my tailwheel weight by using that design with the 4" tailwheel instead of a 6". Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:04 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Weighed my Scott tail wheel at 4.9 pounds. The Matco is 4.75 pounds per their site. Both 6" solid rubber. My leaf springs cam in at 2.5 pounds. Jack DSM http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:35:39 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I counted only 26! Where's the other 4? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gboothe5 To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:46 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ribs .and here's the proof! Oh, Ye of little faith! Count 'em..28 + 2 in the center section = 30!! Now, can PLEASE get back to the Good Stuff? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:22 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ribs I call BS.....make them, prove it! :) do not archive On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Gboothe5 wrote: 2 to go! Dares I say I'll finish this weekend? Gary Boothe " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listtp://f orums.matronics.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:13 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New little Pietenpoler Nothing like 'em. I have eleven grandkids and they're all great. (I also have six great-grandkids.) That's difficult to describe. I'll change the first 'great' to 'super' to clear up the difference. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnC" Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: New little Pietenpoler > > Hey Everyone, > > I just became a Grandpa a few hours ago, so it looks like I will be > driving "Granny" out to Missouri this evening. We will be in Mount Vernon > for about a week, and if there are any Pietenpols around those parts, > maybe I could sneek off for a few hours. I will attempt to add a photo, > hope it works. > > -------- > I just hope when it's my turn to reach up and touch the face of God, I > don't poke him in the eye on accident. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330932#330932 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/grandson_693.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:33 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/homebuilder_tailwheel.php Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:27 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Re: AS&S Homebuilt Special tailwheel. Jack, I am very interested in the tail wheel you mentioned. I can't find it in the AS&S listing for tailwheels. How do I find it? Chuck in Winston-Salem. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Try the AS&S Homebuilt Special tailwheel. I think it weighs around 3 lbs (4" diameter). And the Pietenpol A-Arm Coil Spring configuration is about a pound or two lighter than a leaf spring. I cut 2 lbs off my tailwheel weight by using that design with the 4" tailwheel instead of a 6". Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Weighed my Scott tail wheel at 4.9 pounds. The Matco is 4.75 pounds per their site. Both 6" solid rubber. My leaf springs cam in at 2.5 pounds. Jack DSM http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:47 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hangar life isn't so bad....... Love the photos Mike! It appears you have your plane jacked up to keep those dreaded "flat spots" from forming on your tires. Stinemetze do not archive >>> "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" 2/11/2011 3:08 PM >>> Dont you worry Billya hangar CAN be cheaper than therapy, counseling, or divorce so keep the dream alive and once you DO get your plane built you can deck out your hangar to make it comfy and fun for yourself. Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:21 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New little Pietenpoler Congratulations Gramps! There's nothing quite like it. Stinemetze do not archive >>> "JohnC" 2/13/2011 3:44 PM >>> Hey Everyone, I just became a Grandpa a few hours ago, so it looks like I will be driving "Granny" out to Missouri this evening. We will be in Mount Vernon for about a week, and if there are any Pietenpols around those parts, maybe I could sneek off for a few hours. I will attempt to add a photo, hope it works. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: B&B turnbuckles From: "bender" i just got this email from them last week Hi, Jeff. The only thing we have are the barrels and the left handed fork ends. At the present time, the fork ends are $2.50 each and the barrels are $5.00 each (they are short barrels). If you would like to order some, please let us know. Thanks for your interest! Sincerely, B&B Aircraft Supplies, Inc. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331030#331030 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:18:02 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Making airplane sounds... From: "aerocarjake" My Pietenpol is starting to bear the striking resemblance to an airplane! Looks can be deceiving, however, as it is not really as far along as it may seem... Over the past month or so, the welding was begun on the cabaine strut fittings, landing gear fittings, and engine attach fittings. These are not full "cluster welded" yet, but the components are solidly tacked in place so I can continue on without jigs to hold them in place. As the images show, I have also mocked up the center section with a wooden assembly I bought last year. My actual "flight article" center section will have to be made two inches wider than this one (because my fuselage is two inches wider than plans) but I am now able to get a good feel for the cockpit access and pilot position roominess. (read, making airplane noisesha!) I modified the temporary legs (upside down sawhorses...!) to approximate the width of the landing gear. It will be some time until I am able to fabricate the entire landing gear structure, hardware, springs, etc, so this setup allows me to scoot the project out of the way to the adjacent garage like a wheelbarrow while I work on the parts in my shop. I also recently built a new drill-press jig to burnish the stainless steel firewall. Folks will not be able to see this burnishing because of the engine "boot" cowls, but it should look very elegant when the cowls are removed and adding details like these encourages me to slow down and be more careful with my workmanship. -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331050#331050 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/airplane_noises_180.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:15 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Tail Wheel Weight FYIThanks, Jack, but for $130 I believe I can stand an extra 2 pounds back there. If I have to, I'll move the wing back a fraction. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:11 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/homebuilder_tailwheel.php Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:27 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Re: AS&S Homebuilt Special tailwheel. Jack, I am very interested in the tail wheel you mentioned. I can't find it in the AS&S listing for tailwheels. How do I find it? Chuck in Winston-Salem. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Try the AS&S Homebuilt Special tailwheel. I think it weighs around 3 lbs (4" diameter). And the Pietenpol A-Arm Coil Spring configuration is about a pound or two lighter than a leaf spring. I cut 2 lbs off my tailwheel weight by using that design with the 4" tailwheel instead of a 6". Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:04 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel Weight FYI Weighed my Scott tail wheel at 4.9 pounds. The Matco is 4.75 pounds per their site. Both 6" solid rubber. My leaf springs cam in at 2.5 pounds. Jack DSM http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">h ttp://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:20 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Making airplane sounds... Gosh, that instrument panel looks awfully close. I'll have to read my instruments through my bifocals. Pretty work, though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "aerocarjake" Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 3:15 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Making airplane sounds... > > > My Pietenpol is starting to bear the striking resemblance to an > airplane?! Looks can be deceiving, however, as it is not really as far > along as it may seem... > > Over the past month or so, the welding was begun on the cabaine strut > fittings, landing gear fittings, and engine attach fittings. These are not > full "cluster welded" yet, but the components are solidly tacked in place > so I can continue on without jigs to hold them in place. As the images > show, I have also mocked up the center section with a wooden assembly I > bought last year. My actual "flight article" center section will have to > be made two inches wider than this one (because my fuselage is two inches > wider than plans) but I am now able to get a good feel for the cockpit > access and pilot position roominess. (read, making airplane noises?ha!) > > I modified the temporary legs (upside down sawhorses...!) to approximate > the width of the landing gear. It will be some time until I am able to > fabricate the entire landing gear structure, hardware, springs, etc?, so > this setup allows me to scoot the project out of the way to the adjacent > garage like a wheelbarrow while I work on the parts in my shop. > > I also recently built a new drill-press jig to burnish the stainless steel > firewall. Folks will not be able to see this burnishing because of the > engine "boot" cowls, but it should look very elegant when the cowls are > removed and adding details like these encourages me to slow down and be > more careful with my workmanship. > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331050#331050 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/airplane_noises_180.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:07:12 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Making airplane sounds... Looks very nice, Jake. Sometimes the little details that no one ever gets to see are the best ones. Very few people have seen the brake fluid reservoir I made for mine, but it is a tribute to one of the things that got me interested in flying when I was a kid. You can see it just to the right of the Ah-Oooooga horn, near the top of the firewall. Jack Phillips NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 3:15 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Making airplane sounds... My Pietenpol is starting to bear the striking resemblance to an airplane=C3=A2=82=AC=C2! Looks can be deceiving, however, as it is not really as far along as it may seem... Over the past month or so, the welding was begun on the cabaine strut fittings, landing gear fittings, and engine attach fittings. These are not full "cluster welded" yet, but the components are solidly tacked in place so I can continue on without jigs to hold them in place. As the images show, I have also mocked up the center section with a wooden assembly I bought last year. My actual "flight article" center section will have to be made two inches wider than this one (because my fuselage is two inches wider than plans) but I am now able to get a good feel for the cockpit access and pilot position roominess. (read, making airplane noises=C3=A2=82=AC=C2ha!) I modified the temporary legs (upside down sawhorses...!) to approximate the width of the landing gear. It will be some time until I am able to fabricate the entire landing gear structure, hardware, springs, etc=C3=A2=82=AC=C2, so this setup allows me to scoot the project out of the way to the adjacent garage like a wheelbarrow while I work on the parts in my shop. I also recently built a new drill-press jig to burnish the stainless steel firewall. Folks will not be able to see this burnishing because of the engine "boot" cowls, but it should look very elegant when the cowls are removed and adding details like these encourages me to slow down and be more careful with my workmanship. -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331050#331050 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/airplane_noises_180.jpg ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:11:32 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: I have a 4" diameter ACS 'Homebuilder's Special' tailwheel and two leaf springs And weight was not an issue, nor weight and balance. My wing is pivoted aft 6" of the cabanes being vertical to make my short fuselage Piet CG fall into perfectly acceptable ranges with a 200 lb. pilot. (see Bingelis books for computing W&B) The plans-built A-frame setup I'm sure is lighter than my setup with the ex act same tailwheel but either will work. Go to Chris Tracy's photo page to see sketches of how I attached my springs and the Bingelis books talk about leaf springs and tailwheels---that's all I used to come up with my setup-right on my coffee table was all the in fo I needed. http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20Cuy%20A-65%20Pi et/mike_cuy_3.htm [cid:image003.jpg@01CBCC61.710EA3F0] ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:36:05 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: I have a 4" diameter ACS 'Homebuilder's Special' tailwheel and two leaf springs make that 'my wings are slanted back 4" aft of neutral, not 6". Mike C. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:36:06 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For Jim Boyer Hi Kevin, I would love to be there but have a short contract with my company to work during last half of March through May this year. Have fun though; will you have your Piet there? Jim Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 7:24:15 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: For Jim Boyer Jim - Sorry, meant the Cactus fly-in in March. Will you all make that? I'm still here:(. Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330977#330977 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:41:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making airplane sounds... From: "aerocarjake" Jack, I LOVE IT.... I had a Thimble-Drome gas car when I was little. I parted with it for a tidy sum on eBay about 12 years ago to pay my mortgage while I was laid off. No regrets, it's all just stuff we own while we're visiting this planet. Now I get to own a Pietenpol for a while... :-) Thanks for sharing...! Jake -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331063#331063 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height From: "aerocarjake" I posted a separate topic (making airplane sounds) and from the photo you can get some idea of how well I fit. Mine is the Flying and Glider manual dimensions (steel tube but short fuselage) and I leaned the seat back to the bar 3 inches aft of the top of the pilot seat. I also made my fuselage 2 inches wider and that made a BIG differencei in shin clearance...... I am 6 foot 1 inch in the photo. -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331082#331082 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making airplane sounds... From: Rick Holland Of course or Pietenpols aren't just something we own while visiting planet earth, they're something special. do not archive On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:38 PM, aerocarjake wrote: > > > > Jack, > > I LOVE IT.... I had a Thimble-Drome gas car when I was little. I parted > with it for a tidy sum on eBay about 12 years ago to pay my mortgage while I > was laid off. No regrets, it's all just stuff we own while we're visiting > this planet. Now I get to own a Pietenpol for a while... :-) > > Thanks for sharing...! > > Jake > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331063#331063 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds" ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height From: Kenneth Bickers Jake, I'm just like that, too. In photos I'm easily 6' 1", maybe even 6' 2". In real life, not nearly so much. Cheers, Ken Do not archive On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, aerocarjake wrote: > clearance...... I am 6 foot 1 inch in the photo. > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331082#331082 > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height From: Kimball Isaac Hey Mathew Did you get the cabanes measured Kim On 2011-02-13 8:06 PM, "Matthew VanDervort" wrote: matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> > > Yep, grandpa "big Jim Vandervort is 6' 6" and he flew all the time, no wing flap either, I'll check the plans and measure the cabanes tomorrow to see if they are any longer then the plans > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 13, 2011, at 11:22 AM, "Don Emch" wrote: > >> >> Hey Mark... >> You really should have gotten yourself in mine. It's all in the technique. I'm 6'3" long. I built it to the plans and I fit great. However, I've flown Allen Rudolph's old Piet and had a little trouble. It has the shorter fuselage and my shins got a little marked up. As long as you are building the long fuselage you'll be fine. As far as interference with the rudder, hmm...I think that radiator up front on the Ford ships would be a problem long before a taller head would be. Never heard of a problem there, so... I sure wouldn't be worried about it. If you have any doubts you just need to meet Big Jim Vandervort! He would make you feel at ease! >> >> Don Emch >> NX899DE >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330888#330888 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:48 PM PST US From: "Steve Ruse" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prince A-75 Propeller For Sale Reduced price to $650, well less than half what this cost new, and it is nearly in new condition: http://www.wotelectronics.com/propeller/ Made by Prince Aircraft http://www.princeaircraft.com/ They have a file on this propeller and can answer questions if needed. 68 x 42 (diameter x pitch). Wood Q-tip propeller, custom made for Continental A-75. Roughly 200hrs. Turns roughly 2,500 static RPM on my A-75. Good condition, a couple of minor nicks that could be painted (less than 1/4"). These props are wood, epoxy coated, with a small amount of fiberglass used to create the curved tip. Reduced price to $650 plus shipping. New these are more than double that amount. Steve Ruse Norman, OK ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height From: "VanDy" I just measured the length of the cabanes, and it came to 25.25, and from what i hear, Bernard said that +6 inches is the maximum alllowed. And I also know that grandpas Piet, had the wing 6" back, which helped his 275 lb CG but as an added bonus kept the rain off the wing out of the cockpit!! but your result may vary! im trying to add a pic from the 1989 Pietenpol flyin at Brodhead! -------- www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there! almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331107#331107 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height From: "K5YAC" VanDy wrote: > im trying to add a pic from the 1989 Pietenpol flyin at Brodhead! Is that the one where they had em all lined up in a portrait? Earl Klebbs has that photo hanging in his patio sitting room. Really neat photo if it's the one I'm thinking of. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331109#331109 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.