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1. 04:25 AM - 3/8 tube (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 04:43 AM - Re: For Matt Vandervort (Matthew VanDervort)
3. 06:57 AM - 4130 Steel (cjborsuk)
4. 07:39 AM - Re: 4130 Steel (K5YAC)
5. 07:41 AM - Re: 4130 Steel (Jack Phillips)
6. 08:54 AM - Re: 3/8 tube (Michael Perez)
7. 09:09 AM - Re: For Jim Boyer (kevinpurtee)
8. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: 4130 Steel (Jack)
9. 10:38 AM - Throttle cable (skellytown flyer)
10. 11:11 AM - Re: Throttle cable (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
11. 11:45 AM - Re: Re: For Jim Boyer (Jim Boyer)
12. 11:47 AM - found some.....: 3/8" 4130 Rod (Jim Markle)
13. 11:53 AM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (namrednos)
14. 11:54 AM - Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips)
15. 12:07 PM - Re: Pietenpol Progress II (Dan Yocum)
16. 12:55 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jim Markle)
17. 12:56 PM - Re: Throttle cable (skellytown flyer)
18. 01:03 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips)
19. 02:10 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Rick Holland)
20. 03:03 PM - Maineville Ohio (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
21. 03:06 PM - Re: 4130 Steel (Greg Cardinal)
22. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
23. 03:58 PM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Bill Church)
24. 04:55 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Gboothe5)
25. 04:55 PM - Re: Maineville Ohio (Matthew VanDervort)
26. 05:04 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (helspersew@aol.com)
27. 06:05 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Kenneth Bickers)
28. 06:49 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips)
29. 06:52 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips)
30. 06:53 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips)
31. 08:38 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Gary Boothe)
32. 09:18 PM - Re: For Jim Boyer (kevinpurtee)
33. 10:49 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Clif Dawson)
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I'll ck the shop
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: For Matt Vandervort |
Thanks for the offer shad, mine is in really good shape, just needs a small
patch where the crank case breather hose rubbed a small hole
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On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:49 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I will have to call dad and have him measure it, I will see if he can send
me a picture so I can post it. We plan on being at Brodhead this year so i
f you're there we can bring it up, it would save a bunch of shipping.
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I am sure this question has been answered, but I can't find it in the archives.
The plans call for 13, 14, 16 and 22 ga. steel and .080". I also found in the
archives where some just went with 13 ga. (.090") for everything. Thoughts??
Chuck in Raleigh.
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I am probably wrong for doing this, so don't take my advice on this matter... I
have used .100" for all my fittings so far (lift strut attach, wing attach and
drag cable fittings). I plan to use it for my motor mounts and LG fittings
too. I've probably added a couple of pounds by doing this, but it made for easy
material selection.
I will probably use something thinner for my pulley assemblies and other brackets
since it will be both lighter and easier to work with.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Chuck,
>From an Engineering Materials textbook, the various gage thicknesses are:
13 ga = .0897" thick
14 ga = .0747" thick
16 ga = .0598" thick
22 ga = .0299" thick
Other than weight, in most cases it wouldn't hurt to use .090" for
everything, with a couple of exceptions:
Tha control horns should be made from .032" sheet. Anything thicker would
be too hard to form.
The bracing wire fittings on the tail should not be thicker than .080" if
using the small -8s size turnbuckles and 3/32" cable. The gap in the AN161
fork on a -8s turnbuckle is only .109" wide and if you use .090" steel and
paint it, you will have a hard time slipping that fork over your fitting
tab.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel
I am sure this question has been answered, but I can't find it in the
archives. The plans call for 13, 14, 16 and 22 ga. steel and .080". I also
found in the archives where some just went with 13 ga. (.090") for
everything. Thoughts??
Chuck in Raleigh.
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Cool. Thanks.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: For Jim Boyer |
Jim - Nope. Piet's in Austin. I've got another month out here (just finished
longbow IP course - gotta do a month of tactical stuff then I'm done & home).
Fat Girl's motor's out of commission anyway. I've got to find out what's wrong
with compression on #3 & add the 5th bearing. Going home for the long weekend
this weekend and will finish the troubleshooting. WW suggests a blown head
gasket. Will send the head to Roy at Roy's Garage to make whatever repairs
are necessary. Should have the head back when I get home in March, add the 5th
bearing, and then GO FLY!!! Gotta get her in shape for Brodhead!!!
Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Thanks for the heads-up on tail fittings Jack
Jack
DSM
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Chuck,
>From an Engineering Materials textbook, the various gage thicknesses are:
13 ga = .0897" thick
14 ga = .0747" thick
16 ga = .0598" thick
22 ga = .0299" thick
Other than weight, in most cases it wouldn't hurt to use .090" for
everything, with a couple of exceptions:
Tha control horns should be made from .032" sheet. Anything thicker would
be too hard to form.
The bracing wire fittings on the tail should not be thicker than .080" if
using the small -8s size turnbuckles and 3/32" cable. The gap in the AN161
fork on a -8s turnbuckle is only .109" wide and if you use .090" steel and
paint it, you will have a hard time slipping that fork over your fitting
tab.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel
I am sure this question has been answered, but I can't find it in the
archives. The plans call for 13, 14, 16 and 22 ga. steel and .080". I also
found in the archives where some just went with 13 ga. (.090") for
everything. Thoughts??
Chuck in Raleigh.
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Well I doubt it's long enough to help but I have a A-950-0600 throttle cable that
has been cut down to just over 36" if anyone needs it.it is a new cable I removed
from my GN-1 project so I can re-locate my carb if I ever get it back from
the shop.if any of you need it let me know-you can have it for the price of
shipping. Raymond
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Subject: | Re: Throttle cable |
I am interested in ur cable. Brian
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From: skellytown flyer [mailto:skellflyer1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:35 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Throttle cable
Well I doubt it's long enough to help but I have a A-950-0600 throttle cable that
has been cut down to just over 36" if anyone needs it.it is a new cable I removed
from my GN-1 project so I can re-locate my carb if I ever get it back from
the shop.if any of you need it let me know-you can have it for the price of
shipping. Raymond
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Subject: | Re: For Jim Boyer |
Hi Kevin,
Congratulations on finishing the IP course. It would be fun if you flew one of
those to Brodhead; I think it would be a real conversation starter.
You are probably getting tired of Arizona about now. We are excited as Jamie gets
reassigned to Travis AFB as of February 21 so we are looking forward to having
Jamie, Mike and family only a couple hours away (first time in 12 years).
I hope the fix on your Corvair is just a head gasket and adding the 5th bearing,
Dan's anyway, is really straight forward. Have you ordered the 5th bearing already?
Dan told me when a batch was going to be available and I got the installation
tool kit from them to do it as well.
We will see you at Brodhead again this year without the dramatics okay!
Have a good one Kevin,
Jim B.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:07:02 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: For Jim Boyer
Jim - Nope. Piet's in Austin. I've got another month out here (just finished
longbow IP course - gotta do a month of tactical stuff then I'm done & home).
Fat Girl's motor's out of commission anyway. I've got to find out what's wrong
with compression on #3 & add the 5th bearing. Going home for the long weekend
this weekend and will finish the troubleshooting. WW suggests a blown head
gasket. Will send the head to Roy at Roy's Garage to make whatever repairs
are necessary. Should have the head back when I get home in March, add the 5th
bearing, and then GO FLY!!! Gotta get her in shape for Brodhead!!!
Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | found some.....: 3/8" 4130 Rod |
Just found a piece of 3/8" but it has a 3/16" wall thickness. Hey wait a minute....never
mind, that's a piece of solid bar stock...hahahaha just kidding.
The 3/8" piece I found has a .035 wall thickness. Do you just have to have that
thicker wall thickness? If this will work for you I'll send it to you. I also
found some 1/2" od that has a pretty heavy wall thickness, maybe .090 or even
greater. I didn't measure it but it looks pretty beefy. If you can use that,
let me know and I'll figure out what the wall thickness actually is....
jm
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Perez
Sent: Feb 15, 2011 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3/8" 4130 Rod
Thanks Jim. If not, I'll have to move on to plan "B" until I need to place an order
for other items.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Here is my design for a bench/table. I have one done and am about to make another.
They are 8ft x 25-1/2". You need two of them bolted together to have long
enough table. The design is a derivation of the EAA 1000 tables.
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Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Progress II |
That looks beautiful!
On 02/13/2011 07:48 AM, Jerry Dotson wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jerry Dotson"<jdotson@centurylink.net>
>
> On 1/22/2011 I enlisted friends and loved ones to help me hang the 1 piece wing
> for the first time. I will be so proud to hang it with covering and paint on
it. If I had it to do again I would build the 3 piece. Covering will be a challenge
by myself.
> It looks like there will be several Piets finished in a year or so. I hope
to fly in 2011.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
> using Lycoming O-235
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330868#330868
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>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/a10_173.jpg
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>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: Streamline Tubing |
Jack,
I have some leftover pieces of the Carlson streamlined tubing (see attached
) if you can somehow make it work. I won't sell it to you but I would be g
lad to send you a piece if you can use it....
jm
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips
Sent: Feb 16, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we=99re asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod,
in some cases), I thought I=99d see if anyone on the list has some st
reamline tubing that I could buy.
I=99m making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I=99m building.
Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don=99t exac
tly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think not
hing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can=99t aff
ord that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged
around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received
it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found tha
t it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to
make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van=99s rec
ommends 5=9D). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamline
d cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I
need about 3=9D of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049
=9D, a major axis of 2.023=9D and a minor axis of .857=9D
. Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I
=99ll happily pay $10 for it.
I didn=99t even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They
=99d never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuildin
g is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van
=99s kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockp
it electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought th
e engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it
myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540=99s for
a price of over $50,000 each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Re: Throttle cable |
OK Brian-when I get an address I'll mail it.Raymond
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Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
Thanks, Jim but I don't know how I could make that fit. I had already
looked at the aluminum streamlined tubing that AS&S sells which I think is
the same. It's just too big. Too bad because it probably is pretty light
compared to the steel.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I have some leftover pieces of the Carlson streamlined tubing (see attached)
if you can somehow make it work. I won't sell it to you but I would be glad
to send you a piece if you can use it....
jm
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips
Sent: Feb 16, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Re: Streamline Tubing |
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Hello Pieters:
Anyone living in or near Maineville, Ohio? If so please email me as I have a special
request.
Ken H
Fargo, ND
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>From Chris Tracy's website......
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/gage_to_thickness_chart.htm
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "cjborsuk" <cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel
>
> I am sure this question has been answered, but I can't find it in the
> archives. The plans call for 13, 14, 16 and 22 ga. steel and .080". I also
> found in the archives where some just went with 13 ga. (.090") for
> everything. Thoughts??
>
> Chuck in Raleigh.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331207#331207
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
Great design... now add levelers on each cross piece under the top! Then, you can
adjust the top for levelness when moving the bench around! Simple to weld up
and insert into the wood with final adjustment through a hole in the top. No
floor is exactly level.
KMHeide
Fargo, ND
--- On Wed, 2/16/11, namrednos <namrednos@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: namrednos <namrednos@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 1:50 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: "namrednos" <namrednos@yahoo.com>
>
> Here is my design for a bench/table. I have one done and am
> about to make another. They are 8ft x 25-1/2". You need two
> of them bolted together to have long enough table. The
> design is a derivation of the EAA 1000 tables.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Scott
>
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
> now add levelers on each cross piece under the top!
Or, just put some leg levellers under each leg, like a normal table.
Here's an idea for some nice homemade ones.
http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip010608sn.html
I just drove a lag bolt vertically into the bottom of my table legs. Just screw
them in or out to level.
Bill C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331289#331289
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Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
Jack,
I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has
your name written all over it!
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Re: Maineville Ohio |
I'm not too far from there, hit me up off line and I'll see if I can help you out!!
Matthew.Vandervort@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:59 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Pieters:
>
> Anyone living in or near Maineville, Ohio? If so please email me as I have a
special request.
>
> Ken H
> Fargo, ND
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Subject: | Re: Streamline Tubing |
OK Jack,
I've got it. The piece I have is 9 1/2" long. I can cut it to your desired
length and ship to you @ N/C. Just give me the ship-to address (please advi
se) and you can send me a check for the shipping cost. I can have it on it'
s way tomorrow.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we=99re asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod,
in some cases), I thought I=99d see if anyone on the list has some st
reamline tubing that I could buy.
I=99m making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I=99m building.
Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don=99t exac
tly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think not
hing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can=99t aff
ord that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged
around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received
it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found tha
t it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to
make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van=99s rec
ommends 5=9D). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamline
d cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I
need about 3=9D of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049
=9D, a major axis of 2.023=9D and a minor axis of .857=9D
. Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I
=99ll happily pay $10 for it.
I didn=99t even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They
=99d never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuildin
g is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van
=99s kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockp
it electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought th
e engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it
myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540=99s for
a price of over $50,000 each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Re: Streamline Tubing |
Jack,
I have a piece about 4 inches long, but the wall thickness is approx.
0.038. It appears others have exactly what you want. But if you are
interested in a bit less weight, let me know and I'll be happy to ship it t
o
you.
Ken
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:55 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> OK Jack,
>
> I've got it. The piece I have is 9 1/2" long. I can cut it to your desire
d
> length and ship to you @ N/C. Just give me the ship-to address (please
> advise) and you can send me a check for the shipping cost. I can have it
on
> it's way tomorrow.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
>
> While we=92re asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in
> some cases), I thought I=92d see if anyone on the list has some streamlin
e
> tubing that I could buy.
> I=92m making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I=92m building. Since I
> learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don=92t exactly fit the m
old
> of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shellin
g
> out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can=92t afford that much money f
or
> something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a us
ed
> one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it
> (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I bl
ew
> all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend
it
> below the surface of the wing (Van=92s recommends 5=94). The pitot tube
has a
> 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into
> a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3=94 of streamlined tubing w
ith
> a wall thickness of .049=94, a major axis of 2.023=94 and a minor axis of
.857
> =94. Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, f
or
> a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I
=92ll
> happily pay $10 for it.
> I didn=92t even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They=92d
never
> understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
> All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van=92s kits (which
is
> superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
> They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
> Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
> RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540=92s for a price of over $50,
000
> each.
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
> Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
Hi Gary,
Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out.
In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparaging
remarks about Corvairs.
Send me your address and I'll send you a check. Send the tubing to:
Jack Phillips
9916 Bonsal Crossing
New Hill, NC 27562
I'll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only need a
little over 3" of the tubing, so if you wish, just cut that much off and
send it. You might need the rest for something else someday.
Thanks again!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has
your name written all over it!
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
Oops! I read Gary's post before yours Dan. Hang on to it and let me see if
I need more after Gary sends his.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
OK Jack,
I've got it. The piece I have is 9 1/2" long. I can cut it to your desired
length and ship to you @ N/C. Just give me the ship-to address (please
advise) and you can send me a check for the shipping cost. I can have it on
it's way tomorrow.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
Thanks, Ken. Let me see how the piece from Gary works out. I really
appreciate the offers I've gotten from everyone.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
Bickers
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I have a piece about 4 inches long, but the wall thickness is approx. 0.038.
It appears others have exactly what you want. But if you are interested in
a bit less weight, let me know and I'll be happy to ship it to you.
Ken
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:55 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
OK Jack,
I've got it. The piece I have is 9 1/2" long. I can cut it to your desired
length and ship to you @ N/C. Just give me the ship-to address (please
advise) and you can send me a check for the shipping cost. I can have it on
it's way tomorrow.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
Jack,
I'll hold you to your refrain, but my price for a short piece of streamline
tubing is 1 beer at Brodhead.your credit is good.
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Hi Gary,
Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out.
In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparaging
remarks about Corvairs.
Send me your address and I'll send you a check. Send the tubing to:
Jack Phillips
9916 Bonsal Crossing
New Hill, NC 27562
I'll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only need a
little over 3" of the tubing, so if you wish, just cut that much off and
send it. You might need the rest for something else someday.
Thanks again!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has
your name written all over it!
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Re: For Jim Boyer |
Yeah, I hope to minimize the dramatics this time [Wink]
The 5th bearing is sitting 1' away from me as I type this. I picked it up from
the post office on the way out of town while heading out this trip. It's a really
well done piece of equipment.
I'd have to land the helicopter WAY far away from the Piets to keep from blowing
them around like tumbleweeds. I'll stick with the Fat Girl.
Best to Arlene.
Kevin
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench |
I made mine out of steel studs. They where relatively
cheap, dead straight and don't warp. It is 14' X 4' by 24" high.
Crossmembers each 24". Eight adjustable leg bolts.
Because of all the existing tools, benches and stuff I had
to put it against a wall. Screwing it to that meant no
bracing required. Lots of shelving underneath and space for
the compressor, extra airtank, planer and other important
stuff. Did I mention dead straight and level? Thank you
steel studs and threaded feet. :-)
Clif
> Or, just put some leg levellers under each leg, like a normal table.
> Here's an idea for some nice homemade ones.
> http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip010608sn.html
>
>
> I just drove a lag bolt vertically into the bottom of my table legs. Just
> screw them in or out to level.
>
> Bill C.
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