---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/16/11: 33 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:25 AM - 3/8 tube (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 04:43 AM - Re: For Matt Vandervort (Matthew VanDervort) 3. 06:57 AM - 4130 Steel (cjborsuk) 4. 07:39 AM - Re: 4130 Steel (K5YAC) 5. 07:41 AM - Re: 4130 Steel (Jack Phillips) 6. 08:54 AM - Re: 3/8 tube (Michael Perez) 7. 09:09 AM - Re: For Jim Boyer (kevinpurtee) 8. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: 4130 Steel (Jack) 9. 10:38 AM - Throttle cable (skellytown flyer) 10. 11:11 AM - Re: Throttle cable (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com) 11. 11:45 AM - Re: Re: For Jim Boyer (Jim Boyer) 12. 11:47 AM - found some.....: 3/8" 4130 Rod (Jim Markle) 13. 11:53 AM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (namrednos) 14. 11:54 AM - Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips) 15. 12:07 PM - Re: Pietenpol Progress II (Dan Yocum) 16. 12:55 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jim Markle) 17. 12:56 PM - Re: Throttle cable (skellytown flyer) 18. 01:03 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips) 19. 02:10 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Rick Holland) 20. 03:03 PM - Maineville Ohio (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP) 21. 03:06 PM - Re: 4130 Steel (Greg Cardinal) 22. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP) 23. 03:58 PM - Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Bill Church) 24. 04:55 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Gboothe5) 25. 04:55 PM - Re: Maineville Ohio (Matthew VanDervort) 26. 05:04 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (helspersew@aol.com) 27. 06:05 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Kenneth Bickers) 28. 06:49 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips) 29. 06:52 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips) 30. 06:53 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips) 31. 08:38 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Gary Boothe) 32. 09:18 PM - Re: For Jim Boyer (kevinpurtee) 33. 10:49 PM - Re: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:09 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3/8 tube I'll ck the shop Douwe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For Matt Vandervort From: Matthew VanDervort Thanks for the offer shad, mine is in really good shape, just needs a small patch where the crank case breather hose rubbed a small hole Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:49 PM, shad bell wrote: > > I will have to call dad and have him measure it, I will see if he can send me a picture so I can post it. We plan on being at Brodhead this year so i f you're there we can bring it up, it would save a bunch of shipping. > Shad > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:08 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel From: "cjborsuk" I am sure this question has been answered, but I can't find it in the archives. The plans call for 13, 14, 16 and 22 ga. steel and .080". I also found in the archives where some just went with 13 ga. (.090") for everything. Thoughts?? Chuck in Raleigh. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331207#331207 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:20 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 4130 Steel From: "K5YAC" I am probably wrong for doing this, so don't take my advice on this matter... I have used .100" for all my fittings so far (lift strut attach, wing attach and drag cable fittings). I plan to use it for my motor mounts and LG fittings too. I've probably added a couple of pounds by doing this, but it made for easy material selection. I will probably use something thinner for my pulley assemblies and other brackets since it will be both lighter and easier to work with. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331214#331214 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:20 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel Chuck, >From an Engineering Materials textbook, the various gage thicknesses are: 13 ga = .0897" thick 14 ga = .0747" thick 16 ga = .0598" thick 22 ga = .0299" thick Other than weight, in most cases it wouldn't hurt to use .090" for everything, with a couple of exceptions: Tha control horns should be made from .032" sheet. Anything thicker would be too hard to form. The bracing wire fittings on the tail should not be thicker than .080" if using the small -8s size turnbuckles and 3/32" cable. The gap in the AN161 fork on a -8s turnbuckle is only .109" wide and if you use .090" steel and paint it, you will have a hard time slipping that fork over your fitting tab. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel I am sure this question has been answered, but I can't find it in the archives. The plans call for 13, 14, 16 and 22 ga. steel and .080". I also found in the archives where some just went with 13 ga. (.090") for everything. Thoughts?? Chuck in Raleigh. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331207#331207 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:54 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3/8 tube Cool. Thanks. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:22 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: For Jim Boyer From: "kevinpurtee" Jim - Nope. Piet's in Austin. I've got another month out here (just finished longbow IP course - gotta do a month of tactical stuff then I'm done & home). Fat Girl's motor's out of commission anyway. I've got to find out what's wrong with compression on #3 & add the 5th bearing. Going home for the long weekend this weekend and will finish the troubleshooting. WW suggests a blown head gasket. Will send the head to Roy at Roy's Garage to make whatever repairs are necessary. Should have the head back when I get home in March, add the 5th bearing, and then GO FLY!!! Gotta get her in shape for Brodhead!!! Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331229#331229 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:57 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel Thanks for the heads-up on tail fittings Jack Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:29 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel Chuck, >From an Engineering Materials textbook, the various gage thicknesses are: 13 ga = .0897" thick 14 ga = .0747" thick 16 ga = .0598" thick 22 ga = .0299" thick Other than weight, in most cases it wouldn't hurt to use .090" for everything, with a couple of exceptions: Tha control horns should be made from .032" sheet. Anything thicker would be too hard to form. The bracing wire fittings on the tail should not be thicker than .080" if using the small -8s size turnbuckles and 3/32" cable. The gap in the AN161 fork on a -8s turnbuckle is only .109" wide and if you use .090" steel and paint it, you will have a hard time slipping that fork over your fitting tab. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel I am sure this question has been answered, but I can't find it in the archives. The plans call for 13, 14, 16 and 22 ga. steel and .080". I also found in the archives where some just went with 13 ga. (.090") for everything. Thoughts?? Chuck in Raleigh. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331207#331207 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:36 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Throttle cable From: "skellytown flyer" Well I doubt it's long enough to help but I have a A-950-0600 throttle cable that has been cut down to just over 36" if anyone needs it.it is a new cable I removed from my GN-1 project so I can re-locate my carb if I ever get it back from the shop.if any of you need it let me know-you can have it for the price of shipping. Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331238#331238 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:11:43 AM PST US From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Throttle cable I am interested in ur cable. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: skellytown flyer [mailto:skellflyer1@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:35 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Throttle cable Well I doubt it's long enough to help but I have a A-950-0600 throttle cable that has been cut down to just over 36" if anyone needs it.it is a new cable I removed from my GN-1 project so I can re-locate my carb if I ever get it back from the shop.if any of you need it let me know-you can have it for the price of shipping. Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331238#331238 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:57 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: For Jim Boyer Hi Kevin, Congratulations on finishing the IP course. It would be fun if you flew one of those to Brodhead; I think it would be a real conversation starter. You are probably getting tired of Arizona about now. We are excited as Jamie gets reassigned to Travis AFB as of February 21 so we are looking forward to having Jamie, Mike and family only a couple hours away (first time in 12 years). I hope the fix on your Corvair is just a head gasket and adding the 5th bearing, Dan's anyway, is really straight forward. Have you ordered the 5th bearing already? Dan told me when a batch was going to be available and I got the installation tool kit from them to do it as well. We will see you at Brodhead again this year without the dramatics okay! Have a good one Kevin, Jim B. Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:07:02 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: For Jim Boyer Jim - Nope. Piet's in Austin. I've got another month out here (just finished longbow IP course - gotta do a month of tactical stuff then I'm done & home). Fat Girl's motor's out of commission anyway. I've got to find out what's wrong with compression on #3 & add the 5th bearing. Going home for the long weekend this weekend and will finish the troubleshooting. WW suggests a blown head gasket. Will send the head to Roy at Roy's Garage to make whatever repairs are necessary. Should have the head back when I get home in March, add the 5th bearing, and then GO FLY!!! Gotta get her in shape for Brodhead!!! Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331229#331229 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:47:44 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: found some.....: 3/8" 4130 Rod Just found a piece of 3/8" but it has a 3/16" wall thickness. Hey wait a minute....never mind, that's a piece of solid bar stock...hahahaha just kidding. The 3/8" piece I found has a .035 wall thickness. Do you just have to have that thicker wall thickness? If this will work for you I'll send it to you. I also found some 1/2" od that has a pretty heavy wall thickness, maybe .090 or even greater. I didn't measure it but it looks pretty beefy. If you can use that, let me know and I'll figure out what the wall thickness actually is.... jm -----Original Message----- From: Michael Perez Sent: Feb 15, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3/8" 4130 Rod Thanks Jim. If not, I'll have to move on to plan "B" until I need to place an order for other items. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench From: "namrednos" Here is my design for a bench/table. I have one done and am about to make another. They are 8ft x 25-1/2". You need two of them bolted together to have long enough table. The design is a derivation of the EAA 1000 tables. Do not archive Scott Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331256#331256 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sls_eaa974_8ft_bench_135.pdf ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:54:27 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing that I could buy. I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857". Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll happily pay $10 for it. I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000 each. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:07:15 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Progress II That looks beautiful! On 02/13/2011 07:48 AM, Jerry Dotson wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jerry Dotson" > > On 1/22/2011 I enlisted friends and loved ones to help me hang the 1 piece wing > for the first time. I will be so proud to hang it with covering and paint on it. If I had it to do again I would build the 3 piece. Covering will be a challenge by myself. > It looks like there will be several Piets finished in a year or so. I hope to fly in 2011. > > -------- > Jerry Dotson > 59 Daniel Johnson Rd > Baker, FL 32531 > > Started building NX510JD July, 2009 > wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling > using Lycoming O-235 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330868#330868 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/a10_173.jpg > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:59 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Jack, I have some leftover pieces of the Carlson streamlined tubing (see attached ) if you can somehow make it work. I won't sell it to you but I would be g lad to send you a piece if you can use it.... jm -----Original Message----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Feb 16, 2011 1:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing While we=99re asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some cases), I thought I=99d see if anyone on the list has some st reamline tubing that I could buy. I=99m making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I=99m building. Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don=99t exac tly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think not hing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can=99t aff ord that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found tha t it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van=99s rec ommends 5=9D). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamline d cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3=9D of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049 =9D, a major axis of 2.023=9D and a minor axis of .857=9D . Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I =99ll happily pay $10 for it. I didn=99t even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They =99d never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuildin g is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van =99s kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockp it electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought th e engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540=99s for a price of over $50,000 each. Jack Phillips NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:56:42 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Throttle cable From: "skellytown flyer" OK Brian-when I get an address I'll mail it.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331263#331263 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:55 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Thanks, Jim but I don't know how I could make that fit. I had already looked at the aluminum streamlined tubing that AS&S sells which I think is the same. It's just too big. Too bad because it probably is pretty light compared to the steel. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Jack, I have some leftover pieces of the Carlson streamlined tubing (see attached) if you can somehow make it work. I won't sell it to you but I would be glad to send you a piece if you can use it.... jm -----Original Message----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Feb 16, 2011 1:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing that I could buy. I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857". Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll happily pay $10 for it. I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000 each. 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If so please email me as I have a special request. Ken H Fargo, ND ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:06:31 PM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel >From Chris Tracy's website...... http://www.westcoastpiet.com/gage_to_thickness_chart.htm Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: "cjborsuk" Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:54 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4130 Steel > > I am sure this question has been answered, but I can't find it in the > archives. The plans call for 13, 14, 16 and 22 ga. steel and .080". I also > found in the archives where some just went with 13 ga. (.090") for > everything. Thoughts?? > > Chuck in Raleigh. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331207#331207 > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:24 PM PST US From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench Great design... now add levelers on each cross piece under the top! Then, you can adjust the top for levelness when moving the bench around! Simple to weld up and insert into the wood with final adjustment through a hole in the top. No floor is exactly level. KMHeide Fargo, ND --- On Wed, 2/16/11, namrednos wrote: > From: namrednos > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 1:50 PM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted > by: "namrednos" > > Here is my design for a bench/table. I have one done and am > about to make another. They are 8ft x 25-1/2". You need two > of them bolted together to have long enough table. The > design is a derivation of the EAA 1000 tables. > > Do not archive > > Scott > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331256#331256 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/sls_eaa974_8ft_bench_135.pdf > > > > > Email Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:58:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench From: "Bill Church" > now add levelers on each cross piece under the top! Or, just put some leg levellers under each leg, like a normal table. Here's an idea for some nice homemade ones. http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip010608sn.html I just drove a lag bolt vertically into the bottom of my table legs. Just screw them in or out to level. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331289#331289 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:22 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Jack, I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has your name written all over it! Gary Boothe From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing that I could buy. I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857". Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll happily pay $10 for it. I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000 each. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:31 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Maineville Ohio From: Matthew VanDervort I'm not too far from there, hit me up off line and I'll see if I can help you out!! Matthew.Vandervort@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:59 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP wrote: > > Hello Pieters: > > Anyone living in or near Maineville, Ohio? If so please email me as I have a special request. > > Ken H > Fargo, ND > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing From: helspersew@aol.com OK Jack, I've got it. The piece I have is 9 1/2" long. I can cut it to your desired length and ship to you @ N/C. Just give me the ship-to address (please advi se) and you can send me a check for the shipping cost. I can have it on it' s way tomorrow. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing While we=99re asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some cases), I thought I=99d see if anyone on the list has some st reamline tubing that I could buy. I=99m making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I=99m building. Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don=99t exac tly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think not hing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can=99t aff ord that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found tha t it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van=99s rec ommends 5=9D). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamline d cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3=9D of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049 =9D, a major axis of 2.023=9D and a minor axis of .857=9D . Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I =99ll happily pay $10 for it. I didn=99t even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They =99d never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuildin g is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van =99s kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockp it electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought th e engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540=99s for a price of over $50,000 each. Jack Phillips NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D Raleigh, NC -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing From: Kenneth Bickers Jack, I have a piece about 4 inches long, but the wall thickness is approx. 0.038. It appears others have exactly what you want. But if you are interested in a bit less weight, let me know and I'll be happy to ship it t o you. Ken On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:55 PM, wrote: > OK Jack, > > I've got it. The piece I have is 9 1/2" long. I can cut it to your desire d > length and ship to you @ N/C. Just give me the ship-to address (please > advise) and you can send me a check for the shipping cost. I can have it on > it's way tomorrow. > > Dan Helsper > Poplar Grove, IL. > > do not archive > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Phillips > To: pietenpol-list > Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54 pm > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing > > While we=92re asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in > some cases), I thought I=92d see if anyone on the list has some streamlin e > tubing that I could buy. > I=92m making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I=92m building. Since I > learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don=92t exactly fit the m old > of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shellin g > out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can=92t afford that much money f or > something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a us ed > one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it > (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I bl ew > all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it > below the surface of the wing (Van=92s recommends 5=94). The pitot tube has a > 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into > a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3=94 of streamlined tubing w ith > a wall thickness of .049=94, a major axis of 2.023=94 and a minor axis of .857 > =94. Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, f or > a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I =92ll > happily pay $10 for it. > I didn=92t even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They=92d never > understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about. > All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van=92s kits (which is > superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy. > They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 > Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the > RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540=92s for a price of over $50, 000 > each. > Jack Phillips > NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94 > Raleigh, NC > > * > > " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > p://forums.matronics.com > blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:56 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Hi Gary, Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out. In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparaging remarks about Corvairs. Send me your address and I'll send you a check. Send the tubing to: Jack Phillips 9916 Bonsal Crossing New Hill, NC 27562 I'll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only need a little over 3" of the tubing, so if you wish, just cut that much off and send it. You might need the rest for something else someday. Thanks again! Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Jack, I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has your name written all over it! Gary Boothe From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing that I could buy. I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857". Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll happily pay $10 for it. I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000 each. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:15 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Oops! I read Gary's post before yours Dan. Hang on to it and let me see if I need more after Gary sends his. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing OK Jack, I've got it. The piece I have is 9 1/2" long. I can cut it to your desired length and ship to you @ N/C. Just give me the ship-to address (please advise) and you can send me a check for the shipping cost. I can have it on it's way tomorrow. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing that I could buy. I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857". Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll happily pay $10 for it. I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000 each. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:29 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Thanks, Ken. Let me see how the piece from Gary works out. I really appreciate the offers I've gotten from everyone. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Bickers Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Jack, I have a piece about 4 inches long, but the wall thickness is approx. 0.038. It appears others have exactly what you want. But if you are interested in a bit less weight, let me know and I'll be happy to ship it to you. Ken On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:55 PM, wrote: OK Jack, I've got it. The piece I have is 9 1/2" long. I can cut it to your desired length and ship to you @ N/C. Just give me the ship-to address (please advise) and you can send me a check for the shipping cost. I can have it on it's way tomorrow. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 1:54 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing that I could buy. I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857". Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll happily pay $10 for it. I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000 each. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:14 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Jack, I'll hold you to your refrain, but my price for a short piece of streamline tubing is 1 beer at Brodhead.your credit is good. Gary _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:47 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Hi Gary, Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out. In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparaging remarks about Corvairs. Send me your address and I'll send you a check. Send the tubing to: Jack Phillips 9916 Bonsal Crossing New Hill, NC 27562 I'll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only need a little over 3" of the tubing, so if you wish, just cut that much off and send it. You might need the rest for something else someday. Thanks again! Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing Jack, I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has your name written all over it! Gary Boothe From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing that I could buy. I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857". Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll happily pay $10 for it. I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy. They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000 each. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: For Jim Boyer From: "kevinpurtee" Yeah, I hope to minimize the dramatics this time [Wink] The 5th bearing is sitting 1' away from me as I type this. I picked it up from the post office on the way out of town while heading out this trip. It's a really well done piece of equipment. I'd have to land the helicopter WAY far away from the Piets to keep from blowing them around like tumbleweeds. I'll stick with the Fat Girl. Best to Arlene. Kevin do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331313#331313 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:04 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench I made mine out of steel studs. They where relatively cheap, dead straight and don't warp. It is 14' X 4' by 24" high. Crossmembers each 24". Eight adjustable leg bolts. Because of all the existing tools, benches and stuff I had to put it against a wall. Screwing it to that meant no bracing required. Lots of shelving underneath and space for the compressor, extra airtank, planer and other important stuff. Did I mention dead straight and level? Thank you steel studs and threaded feet. :-) Clif > Or, just put some leg levellers under each leg, like a normal table. > Here's an idea for some nice homemade ones. > http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip010608sn.html > > > I just drove a lag bolt vertically into the bottom of my table legs. 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