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1. 12:10 AM - Interesting Saw Blade (Clif Dawson)
2. 05:56 AM - Re: found some.....: 3/8" 4130 Rod (Michael Perez)
3. 05:56 AM - Re: 3/8" 4130 Rod (Jim Markle)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: Prince A-75 Propeller For Sale (taildrags)
5. 10:13 AM - Re: Streamline Tubing (V Groah)
6. 10:43 AM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack Phillips)
7. 11:07 AM - Re: 3/8" 4130 Rod (K5YAC)
8. 12:08 PM - Re: Re: 3/8" 4130 Rod (Jim Markle)
9. 01:08 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Gboothe5)
10. 02:10 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (kevinpurtee)
11. 02:52 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Tubing (Gary Boothe)
12. 02:55 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (TOM STINEMETZE)
13. 03:39 PM - to the plans... (bender)
14. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Tubing (airlion)
15. 05:04 PM - Tubing (Gary Boothe)
16. 05:06 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (V Groah)
17. 05:08 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Tubing (Gary Boothe)
18. 05:21 PM - Re: Streamline Tubing (Gary Boothe)
19. 06:00 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Tubing (Jack)
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| Subject: | Interesting Saw Blade |
Check this out;
http://www.finalcutblade.com/finalcut_features.php
Clif
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| Subject: | Re: found some.....: 3/8" 4130 Rod |
Thanks Jim, but that won't work. I really need to have the 3/8", .065 stuff. I'll
move on for now and buy some whenever I place my next order.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: 3/8" 4130 Rod |
I sent this yesterday but don't see it in my "sent" folder...I apologize if it's
a duplicate....
I found some 3/8" but it's .035 wall thickness.
I think you wanted something thicker. If this will do the job, let me know and
it's yours.
Jim
Pryor, OK...where it was -20F last Wednesday....today's forecast: 70F...
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>Sent: Feb 15, 2011 3:56 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3/8" 4130 Rod
>
>All I could find was some 5/8".....I do have one more stash I can dig through
that might help us out.....
>
>I'll let you know.
>
>jm
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: Michael Perez
>
>Sent: Feb 15, 2011 12:19 PM
>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3/8" 4130 Rod
>
>
>Thank you sir! Let me know what you find and I'll send you a mailing address.
>
>Michael Perez
>
>Karetaker Aero
>
>www.karetakeraero.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prince A-75 Propeller For Sale |
Steve; please email me off list if you still have the prop. Thanks.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
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| Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
Some of us looked at our stock=2C only to find different sizes and not your
s. Does that count for another week of corviar good will?? Maybe if enoung
h of us corvair guys have looked for your tubing we can win another whole m
onth of lack of critisism of us corvair guys?? Give it some thought. Vic
do not archive
From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack=2C
I=92ll hold you to your refrain=2C but my price for a short piece of stream
line tubing is 1 beer at Brodhead=85your credit is good.
Gary
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Wednesday=2C February 16=2C 2011 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Hi Gary=2C
Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out.
In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparag
ing remarks about Corvairs.
Send me your address and I=92ll send you a check. Send the tubing to:
Jack Phillips
9916 Bonsal Crossing
New Hill=2C NC 27562
I=92ll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only nee
d a little over 3=94 of the tubing=2C so if you wish=2C just cut that much
off and send it. You might need the rest for something else someday.
Thanks again!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh=2C NC
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Wednesday=2C February 16=2C 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack=2C
I may not have 30 ribs=2C but I have 14.5=94 of that exact piece=2C and it
has your name written all over it!
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Wednesday=2C February 16=2C 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we=92re asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod=2C in s
ome cases)=2C I thought I=92d see if anyone on the list has some streamline
tubing that I could buy.
I=92m making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I=92m building. Since I lea
rned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol=2C I don=92t exactly fit the mold
of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling
out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can=92t afford that much money fo
r something that I hope to never need=2C so I scrounged around and found a
used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested
it (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works=2C after
I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to e
xtend it below the surface of the wing (Van=92s recommends 5=94). The pito
t tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made t
o slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3=94 of streamline
d tubing with a wall thickness of .049=94=2C a major axis of 2.023=94 and a
minor axis of .857=94. Aircraft Spruce has such tubing=2C but the minimum
order is 1 foot=2C for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of
tubing lying around=2C I=92ll happily pay $10 for it.
I didn=92t even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They=92d ne
ver understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all abou
t. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van=92s kits (whic
h is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy
. They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 Ly
coming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-1
0 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540=92s for a price of over $50=2C000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh=2C NC http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://fo
rums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matr
onics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.m
atronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
No, you all get to enjoy the 30 days (29 now) that Gary has won for you. I
mean, this is going to be pretty hard on me. Perhaps I should have just
taken the tubing that Dan Helsper offered and been free to lambast the
Corvairs. Of course, all the things I would have said during that 30 day
period will just build into a backlog that will come out once the 30 days is
up. Now is the time (during this time of enforced good will) for any of you
with flying Corvairs that have found, ah, "inconsistencies" with your
powerplants that you were afraid to make public, to come forward and confess
with no worry of condemnation. Of course, I have no control over John
Hofmann or his friend, der Fuhrer.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Some of us looked at our stock, only to find different sizes and not yours.
Does that count for another week of corviar good will?? Maybe if enoungh of
us corvair guys have looked for your tubing we can win another whole month
of lack of critisism of us corvair guys?? Give it some thought. Vic
do not archive
_____
From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I'll hold you to your refrain, but my price for a short piece of streamline
tubing is 1 beer at Brodhead.your credit is good.
Gary
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Hi Gary,
Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out.
In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparaging
remarks about Corvairs.
Send me your address and I'll send you a check. Send the tubing to:
Jack Phillips
9916 Bonsal Crossing
New Hill, NC 27562
I'll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only need a
little over 3" of the tubing, so if you wish, just cut that much off and
send it. You might need the rest for something else someday.
Thanks again!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has
your name written all over it!
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Re: 3/8" 4130 Rod |
dfwplt wrote:
> Pryor, OK...where it was -20F last Wednesday....today's forecast: 70F...
>
Are you out there making use of this nice weather?
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: 3/8" 4130 Rod |
I wish!!! Actually working this week....at least I get to work from home this
week (and next)!
Hope you (and everyone else....) are getting over to the hangar/your project!
Jim
-----Original Message-----
>From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
>Sent: Feb 17, 2011 1:04 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 3/8" 4130 Rod
>
>
>
>dfwplt wrote:
>> Pryor, OK...where it was -20F last Wednesday....today's forecast: 70F...
>>
>
>
>Are you out there making use of this nice weather?
>
>--------
>Mark Chouinard
>Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331357#331357
>
>
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| Subject: | Streamline Tubing |
Vic,
That truly was an inspired attempt to quell the dissidents. Unfortunately,
as Jack pointed out, forces of immeasurable strength are gathering against
us. Right now, thanks to John Hofmann, tens of thousands of uninformed
individuals in the mid-west are right now sporting shirts and sweatshirts
and caps with the attached.
Gary, L
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
No, you all get to enjoy the 30 days (29 now) that Gary has won for you. I
mean, this is going to be pretty hard on me. Perhaps I should have just
taken the tubing that Dan Helsper offered and been free to lambast the
Corvairs. Of course, all the things I would have said during that 30 day
period will just build into a backlog that will come out once the 30 days is
up. Now is the time (during this time of enforced good will) for any of you
with flying Corvairs that have found, ah, "inconsistencies" with your
powerplants that you were afraid to make public, to come forward and confess
with no worry of condemnation. Of course, I have no control over John
Hofmann or his friend, der Fuhrer.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Some of us looked at our stock, only to find different sizes and not yours.
Does that count for another week of corviar good will?? Maybe if enoungh of
us corvair guys have looked for your tubing we can win another whole month
of lack of critisism of us corvair guys?? Give it some thought. Vic
do not archive
_____
From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I'll hold you to your refrain, but my price for a short piece of streamline
tubing is 1 beer at Brodhead.your credit is good.
Gary
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Hi Gary,
Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out.
In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparaging
remarks about Corvairs.
Send me your address and I'll send you a check. Send the tubing to:
Jack Phillips
9916 Bonsal Crossing
New Hill, NC 27562
I'll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only need a
little over 3" of the tubing, so if you wish, just cut that much off and
send it. You might need the rest for something else someday.
Thanks again!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has
your name written all over it!
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Streamline Tubing |
Heck, Jack, I love it when you bang on the corvair. It's funny! I'll send you
a length of tubing if you'll talk MORE smack. And I want my T-Shirt from Hoffman!
Gary - if you have not finished your ribs please do so now.
Love,
Kevin
(who's going home this weekend to take care of the well-publicized lack of compression
in cylinder 3 - did I mention it ran for an hour on 5 cylinders with virtually
no drama other than a loss of 150 rpm?)
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Streamline Tubing |
1 to go...don't bother me...it takes all I got!
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Heck, Jack, I love it when you bang on the corvair. It's funny! I'll send
you a length of tubing if you'll talk MORE smack. And I want my T-Shirt
from Hoffman!
Gary - if you have not finished your ribs please do so now.
Love,
Kevin
(who's going home this weekend to take care of the well-publicized lack of
compression in cylinder 3 - did I mention it ran for an hour on 5 cylinders
with virtually no drama other than a loss of 150 rpm?)
do not archive
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Streamline Tubing |
Hey is Hoffman really making those shirts 'cause I would really like to
get one too. I will wear it with pride while flying behind my Corvair.
Stinemetze.
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\8/
o/ \o
>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 2/17/2011 4:08 PM >>>
il>
Heck, Jack, I love it when you bang on the corvair. It's funny! I'll
send you a length of tubing if you'll talk MORE smack. And I want my
T-Shirt from Hoffman!
Gary - if you have not finished your ribs please do so now.
Love,
Kevin
(who's going home this weekend to take care of the well-publicized lack of
compression in cylinder 3 - did I mention it ran for an hour on 5
cylinders with virtually no drama other than a loss of 150 rpm?)
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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I've been working on my wing.. leading and trailing edges..
I kept thinking the idea of 8-32 screws holding on the leading edge sounded kinda
silly..
after roughly shaping it and clamping it in place a few times, it hit me..
i would need at least 28 clamps to hold that thing in place... or DUH..
do it like bernard did..
so i clamped it.. drilled it glued it then screwed it on.. the screws pull it down
tight and keep it in from sliding out of place all at the same time..
looks like a wing
jeff
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Hi Kevin, sorry to hear about your compression problem. I hope it was not
related to cooling. Why are you going the 5th bearing route? You are not
cranking that plane around like your copter are you. I might do the same if I
don't have to completely rebuild the cowling. Looking forward to Brodhead.
Gardiner
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From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 5:08:14 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing
Heck, Jack, I love it when you bang on the corvair. It's funny! I'll send you
a length of tubing if you'll talk MORE smack. And I want my T-Shirt from
Hoffman!
Gary - if you have not finished your ribs please do so now.
Love,
Kevin
(who's going home this weekend to take care of the well-publicized lack of
compression in cylinder 3 - did I mention it ran for an hour on 5 cylinders with
virtually no drama other than a loss of 150 rpm?)
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Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Sorry, List..
Jack - tried to send two emails to your personal, but they keep coming back.
Anyhow, ETA for the tubing is no later than Tuesday.
Gary
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I suspect there may be a hint of jealousy with those four cylinder guys as
the corvair six is so smooth and powerful. Do you think that is a possibil
ity?? Vic
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Vic=2C
That truly was an inspired attempt to quell the dissidents. Unfortunately
=2C as Jack pointed out=2C forces of immeasurable strength are gathering ag
ainst us. Right now=2C thanks to John Hofmann=2C tens of thousands of uninf
ormed individuals in the mid-west are right now sporting shirts and sweatsh
irts and caps with the attached.
Gary=2C L
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Thursday=2C February 17=2C 2011 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
No=2C you all get to enjoy the 30 days (29 now) that Gary has won for you.
I mean=2C this is going to be pretty hard on me. Perhaps I should have ju
st taken the tubing that Dan Helsper offered and been free to lambast the C
orvairs. Of course=2C all the things I would have said during that 30 day
period will just build into a backlog that will come out once the 30 days i
s up. Now is the time (during this time of enforced good will) for any of
you with flying Corvairs that have found=2C ah=2C =93inconsistencies=94 wit
h your powerplants that you were afraid to make public=2C to come forward a
nd confess with no worry of condemnation. Of course=2C I have no control o
ver John Hofmann or his friend=2C der Fuhrer.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh=2C NC
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Thursday=2C February 17=2C 2011 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Some of us looked at our stock=2C only to find different sizes and not your
s. Does that count for another week of corviar good will?? Maybe if enoung
h of us corvair guys have looked for your tubing we can win another whole m
onth of lack of critisism of us corvair guys?? Give it some thought. Vic
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack=2C
I=92ll hold you to your refrain=2C but my price for a short piece of stream
line tubing is 1 beer at Brodhead=85your credit is good.
Gary
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Wednesday=2C February 16=2C 2011 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Hi Gary=2C
Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out.
In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparag
ing remarks about Corvairs.
Send me your address and I=92ll send you a check. Send the tubing to:
Jack Phillips
9916 Bonsal Crossing
New Hill=2C NC 27562
I=92ll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only nee
d a little over 3=94 of the tubing=2C so if you wish=2C just cut that much
off and send it. You might need the rest for something else someday.
Thanks again!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh=2C NC
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Wednesday=2C February 16=2C 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack=2C
I may not have 30 ribs=2C but I have 14.5=94 of that exact piece=2C and it
has your name written all over it!
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Wednesday=2C February 16=2C 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we=92re asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod=2C in s
ome cases)=2C I thought I=92d see if anyone on the list has some streamline
tubing that I could buy.
I=92m making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I=92m building. Since I lea
rned to build airplanes with my Pietenpol=2C I don=92t exactly fit the mold
of the typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling
out $500 for a new heated pitot tube. I can=92t afford that much money fo
r something that I hope to never need=2C so I scrounged around and found a
used one from a Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested
it (both for pitot function and heating) and found that it works=2C after
I blew all the mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to e
xtend it below the surface of the wing (Van=92s recommends 5=94). The pito
t tube has a 90 degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made t
o slip into a piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3=94 of streamline
d tubing with a wall thickness of .049=94=2C a major axis of 2.023=94 and a
minor axis of .857=94. Aircraft Spruce has such tubing=2C but the minimum
order is 1 foot=2C for a price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of
tubing lying around=2C I=92ll happily pay $10 for it.
I didn=92t even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They=92d ne
ver understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all abou
t. All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van=92s kits (whic
h is superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy
. They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540 Ly
coming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the RV-1
0 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540=92s for a price of over $50=2C000
each.
Jack Phillips
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He sent me the proof a couple months ago.and I gave him a good review. I
don't think he has the guts to follow through, though.:-0
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing
Hey is Hoffman really making those shirts 'cause I would really like to get
one too. I will wear it with pride while flying behind my Corvair.
Stinemetze.
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>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 2/17/2011 4:08 PM >>>
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Heck, Jack, I love it when you bang on the corvair. It's funny! I'll send
you a length of tubing if you'll talk MORE smack. And I want my T-Shirt
from Hoffman!
Gary - if you have not finished your ribs please do so now.
Love,
Kevin
(who's going home this weekend to take care of the well-publicized lack of
compression in cylinder 3 - did I mention it ran for an hour on 5 cylinders
with virtually no drama other than a loss of 150 rpm?)
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Careful, Vic. Jack's probably biting clean thru is tongue!
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
I suspect there may be a hint of jealousy with those four cylinder guys as
the corvair six is so smooth and powerful. Do you think that is a
possibility?? Vic
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Vic,
That truly was an inspired attempt to quell the dissidents. Unfortunately,
as Jack pointed out, forces of immeasurable strength are gathering against
us. Right now, thanks to John Hofmann, tens of thousands of uninformed
individuals in the mid-west are right now sporting shirts and sweatshirts
and caps with the attached.
Gary, :-(
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
No, you all get to enjoy the 30 days (29 now) that Gary has won for you. I
mean, this is going to be pretty hard on me. Perhaps I should have just
taken the tubing that Dan Helsper offered and been free to lambast the
Corvairs. Of course, all the things I would have said during that 30 day
period will just build into a backlog that will come out once the 30 days is
up. Now is the time (during this time of enforced good will) for any of you
with flying Corvairs that have found, ah, "inconsistencies" with your
powerplants that you were afraid to make public, to come forward and confess
with no worry of condemnation. Of course, I have no control over John
Hofmann or his friend, der Fuhrer.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Some of us looked at our stock, only to find different sizes and not yours.
Does that count for another week of corviar good will?? Maybe if enoungh of
us corvair guys have looked for your tubing we can win another whole month
of lack of critisism of us corvair guys?? Give it some thought. Vic
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I'll hold you to your refrain, but my price for a short piece of streamline
tubing is 1 beer at Brodhead.your credit is good.
Gary
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Hi Gary,
Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out.
In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparaging
remarks about Corvairs.
Send me your address and I'll send you a check. Send the tubing to:
Jack Phillips
9916 Bonsal Crossing
New Hill, NC 27562
I'll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only need a
little over 3" of the tubing, so if you wish, just cut that much off and
send it. You might need the rest for something else someday.
Thanks again!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has
your name written all over it!
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Freaking Great!
The other Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Vic,
That truly was an inspired attempt to quell the dissidents. Unfortunately,
as Jack pointed out, forces of immeasurable strength are gathering against
us. Right now, thanks to John Hofmann, tens of thousands of uninformed
individuals in the mid-west are right now sporting shirts and sweatshirts
and caps with the attached.
Gary, :-(
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
No, you all get to enjoy the 30 days (29 now) that Gary has won for you. I
mean, this is going to be pretty hard on me. Perhaps I should have just
taken the tubing that Dan Helsper offered and been free to lambast the
Corvairs. Of course, all the things I would have said during that 30 day
period will just build into a backlog that will come out once the 30 days is
up. Now is the time (during this time of enforced good will) for any of you
with flying Corvairs that have found, ah, "inconsistencies" with your
powerplants that you were afraid to make public, to come forward and confess
with no worry of condemnation. Of course, I have no control over John
Hofmann or his friend, der Fuhrer.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Some of us looked at our stock, only to find different sizes and not yours.
Does that count for another week of corviar good will?? Maybe if enoungh of
us corvair guys have looked for your tubing we can win another whole month
of lack of critisism of us corvair guys?? Give it some thought. Vic
do not archive
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I'll hold you to your refrain, but my price for a short piece of streamline
tubing is 1 beer at Brodhead.your credit is good.
Gary
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Hi Gary,
Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out.
In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparaging
remarks about Corvairs.
Send me your address and I'll send you a check. Send the tubing to:
Jack Phillips
9916 Bonsal Crossing
New Hill, NC 27562
I'll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only need a
little over 3" of the tubing, so if you wish, just cut that much off and
send it. You might need the rest for something else someday.
Thanks again!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
Jack,
I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it has
your name written all over it!
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in some
cases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubing
that I could buy.
I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learned
to build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of the
typical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500
for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for something
that I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from a
Cessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both for
pitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all the
mud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it below
the surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90
degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into a
piece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with a
wall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".
Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for a
price of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'll
happily pay $10 for it.
I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd never
understand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.
All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which is
superb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.
They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540
Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All the
RV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000
each.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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