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1. 04:00 AM - Gear strap (Jack)
2. 05:53 AM - Re: Piet outdoors (Jerry Dotson)
3. 07:06 AM - Re: Piet outdoors (Gboothe5)
4. 07:16 AM - Re: Re: Piet outdoors (Gary Boothe)
5. 09:04 AM - Headlines: Wife Sacrifices Room to A/C Project (Gary Boothe)
6. 09:14 AM - Re: Gear strap (norm)
7. 10:23 AM - Continental A-65-8 for sale on ebay (Timothy Willis)
8. 10:56 AM - Re: Headlines: Wife Sacrifices Room to A/C Project (Jerry Dotson)
9. 11:45 AM - Re: Re: Headlines: Wife Sacrifices Room to A/C Project (Gary Boothe)
10. 12:43 PM - Finally got to Fly (Jack Phillips)
11. 01:47 PM - Re: Finally got to Fly (Jerry Dotson)
12. 02:01 PM - Re: Finally got to Fly (Jack)
13. 02:13 PM - Re: Finally got to Fly (Ryan Mueller)
14. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Finally got to Fly (Jack Phillips)
15. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Finally got to Fly (Gary Boothe)
16. 03:26 PM - Re: Finally got to Fly (Gary Boothe)
17. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Finally got to Fly (airlion)
18. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Finally got to Fly (Ryan Mueller)
19. 03:41 PM - Re: Finally got to Fly (Jack Phillips)
20. 03:49 PM - Re: Finally got to Fly (Ryan Mueller)
21. 04:03 PM - Re: Finally got to Fly (Jerry Dotson)
22. 04:39 PM - Freaky control jams (helspersew@aol.com)
23. 05:29 PM - Starting final assembly (Dangerous Dave)
24. 05:46 PM - Future Piet flyer (shad bell)
25. 06:01 PM - Re: Future Piet flyer (Kenneth Bickers)
26. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Tubing (Ray Krause)
27. 06:21 PM - Re: Re: Finally got to Fly (Ben Charvet)
28. 06:35 PM - Re: Re: Finally got to Fly (Rick Holland)
29. 06:40 PM - Aileron lacing (Rick Holland)
30. 09:04 PM - Re: Starting final assembly (Billy McCaskill)
31. 09:37 PM - Re: Starting final assembly (Billy McCaskill)
32. 11:27 PM - Out of town on business back on Monday (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
33. 11:36 PM - Where's waldo any Piet builders here (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
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Making some headway on the gear. One picture here
http://textors.com/IMG_7897_800x533.jpg , others here
http://textors.com/PietProject.html
I do plan to cut lightening holes in the bottom strap. Still a long way to
go!
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: Piet outdoors |
Vic
I am using a Lycoming O-235 C2C off a Yankee. I want to show as much of the engine
as I can and it still look pretty good.
Does anyone have any pictures of scantily cowled Piets ? I want just enough so
it doesn't look UN-cowled. I have been looking
on West Coast Piet. I will be running a big ol' ugly muffler on it so minimal
cowl and it still looking good will be a challenge.
Gary Great you got the ribs done...now put them on some spars. Where do you find
hickory?
Mr Markle I asked ABE about spending summers in Oklahoma and he said summers too
hot.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Struts. I already have fir spars.
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet outdoors
Wing struts or wing spars Gary?
Jim
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From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26:19 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet outdoors
Jerry,
Not grown on my property, and certainly not milled by me, but I started
gluing my struts today (hickory).
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear, RIBS DONE!
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:14 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet outdoors
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
I just can't help my self. We pushed it out this afternoon. Gary Boothe you
will be proud of me. I built the jury struts 100% from poplar.....really it
is from a tulip tree I sawed on my homemade sawmill about 25 or 30 years
ago. It looks just like poplar.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: Piet outdoors |
Jerry,
I live in a very small town, but am fortunate to have a local supplier who
specializes in hardwood flooring. Additionally, the owner is fond of his
memories of helping to build a Pitts, and seems to know what A/C grade wood
should be. He personally delivered my spar material after picking them out
from a wholesaler. They allow me to sort thru all the wood I need to find
the best grain.
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:51 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet outdoors
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
Vic
I am using a Lycoming O-235 C2C off a Yankee. I want to show as much of the
engine as I can and it still look pretty good.
Does anyone have any pictures of scantily cowled Piets ? I want just enough
so it doesn't look UN-cowled. I have been looking
on West Coast Piet. I will be running a big ol' ugly muffler on it so
minimal cowl and it still looking good will be a challenge.
Gary Great you got the ribs done...now put them on some spars. Where do you
find hickory?
Mr Markle I asked ABE about spending summers in Oklahoma and he said summers
too hot.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331604#331604
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| Subject: | Headlines: Wife Sacrifices Room to A/C Project |
A bit cool for Resorcinol glue, so I brought everything in to the only room
left un-remodeled (sort of the 'catch all').
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, Running!
Tail done, Fuselage on gear, RIBS DONE!
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For my bottom straps I used carpenters framing squares- picked up at a ya
rd sale =0A,Bernard used them on one of his ,I figured it would-be-neat
, and at-1.00 each =0Awhat the heck...=0A----------
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____________________=0AFrom: Jack <jack@textors.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@m
atronics.com=0ASent: Sun, February 20, 2011 6:56:14 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol
-List: Gear strap=0A=0AMaking some headway on the gear.- One picture here
=0Ahttp://textors.com/IMG_7897_800x533.jpg , others here=0Ahttp://textors.c
om/PietProject.html =0AI do plan to cut lightening holes in the bottom stra
p.- Still a long way to=0Ago!=0AJack=0ADSM=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Continental A-65-8 for sale on ebay |
Here is the item no. 250776562325.
Engine in service on Cub now. Under 300 hrs. SMOH. 9 days to go.
Of course, this is the no gen., no starter, hand-propping A-65,
As of now bids just over $1000. Dallas-Ft. Worth area.
I have no skin in the game on this.
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| Subject: | Re: Headlines: Wife Sacrifices Room to A/C Project |
Gary,
Looks like the exercise machine is in worn out condition. I have a treadmill in
same condition. Makes a good coat rack though. Do you expect to fly this year?
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: Headlines: Wife Sacrifices Room to A/C Project |
Yeah, that machine beckons me all the time...but I'm deaf.
Think I still got another year. I just finished re-organizing the garage to
make room for wings hoisted to the ceiling. Except for a couple loose ends
on electric and fuel, the fuselage and tail are ready for cover.
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 10:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Headlines: Wife Sacrifices Room to A/C Project
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
Gary,
Looks like the exercise machine is in worn out condition. I have a treadmill
in same condition. Makes a good coat rack though. Do you expect to fly this
year?
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Finally got to Fly |
Every weekend for the past month it has been warm enough to fly in an
open
cockpit, but the winds were so strong that it would just not be
enjoyable.
For example, last Monday it was 72 degrees, but the winds were 42 knots
with
gusts to 60 knots, directly across the runway. No thank you.
Today after church it finally seemed to be as close to perfect as I=92m
likely
to see for a while ' temperature 55=B0 and winds 160 at 8 knots (the
runway
here at Smith Mountain Lake is 5/23). So I pulled the Pietenpol out of
the
hangar for her first flight since November. The faithful non-Corvair
started on the first blade. I back-taxied down the runway to take off
on
runway 23, enjoying the nice firm braking (I had bled the brakes
yesterday
and they are the best they=92ve ever been).
I took off and set up a nice crab angle to keep me over the runway
centerline and cruised out over the lake. I got as high as 800 feet AGL
and
enjoyed the nice crisp cool air for about 20 minutes, waving to the boat
traffic on the lake, before I began to feel cold. So I turned around
and
headed back to the airport and entered the traffic pattern on a left
crosswind for 23. As I made the left turn to downwind, I noticed that
the
ailerons felt VERY stiff. I tried a turn to the right ' no problem.
Another turn to the left ' VERY stiff. I found I could only move the
stick
about 2=94 past centerline to the left, and that took quite an effort.
Sphincter clinch. I needed some left aileron to handle the left
crosswind.
I went ahead and made the approach, and when I turned final I set up the
slip to hold the crosswind. It took both hands to force the stick over
far
enough to compensate for the wind. I had decided that if I couldn=92t
hold
the crosswind with the little bit of left aileron I had available, I
would
go around and land on 5, where the crosswind would be from my right, but
I
would also have a pretty good tailwind component. Once I got near the
ground, and the trees blocked some of the wind, I found I could relax a
little of the pressure on the stick and actually made a nice 3-point
landing. I immediately pulled into the FBO=92s ramp and got out to see
what
had caused the problem.
What I found was that the front seatback cushion had come loose from its
velcro and had fallen forward, blocking the front stick whenever I tried
to
use left aileron. I now have a bungee cord holding the seatback cushion
in
place to prevent this. The primary culprit seems to be the fact that I
had
not flown the airplane in so long. So as spring creeps its way north,
and
you get ready to fly your plane again for the first time in months, pay
extra attention to all the little things that can relax or get loose
over a
long cold winter.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
Jack so proud you got to fly and put it up with no wrinkles in it. Murphy's law
still exists! I am wanting to fly so bad and my plane is at least 2 if not 3
or 4 months away from being finished. I have to tell myself...don't get in a hurry,
no shortcuts, etc so the finished product looks like I want it. Are your
seat belts removable ? I have been thinking about that and what happened to you
is making me think harder. 77 here right now. Just came in for a drink....building
rudder pedals.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331640#331640
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| Subject: | Finally got to Fly |
Good story Jack, thanks for sharing!
Jack
DSM
Fitting inside gear hinge lugs
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 2:39 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Finally got to Fly
Every weekend for the past month it has been warm enough to fly in an
open
cockpit, but the winds were so strong that it would just not be
enjoyable.
For example, last Monday it was 72 degrees, but the winds were 42 knots
with
gusts to 60 knots, directly across the runway. No thank you.
Today after church it finally seemed to be as close to perfect as I=92m
likely
to see for a while ' temperature 55=B0 and winds 160 at 8 knots (the
runway
here at Smith Mountain Lake is 5/23). So I pulled the Pietenpol out of
the
hangar for her first flight since November. The faithful non-Corvair
started on the first blade. I back-taxied down the runway to take off
on
runway 23, enjoying the nice firm braking (I had bled the brakes
yesterday
and they are the best they=92ve ever been).
I took off and set up a nice crab angle to keep me over the runway
centerline and cruised out over the lake. I got as high as 800 feet AGL
and
enjoyed the nice crisp cool air for about 20 minutes, waving to the boat
traffic on the lake, before I began to feel cold. So I turned around
and
headed back to the airport and entered the traffic pattern on a left
crosswind for 23. As I made the left turn to downwind, I noticed that
the
ailerons felt VERY stiff. I tried a turn to the right ' no problem.
Another turn to the left ' VERY stiff. I found I could only move the
stick
about 2=94 past centerline to the left, and that took quite an effort.
Sphincter clinch. I needed some left aileron to handle the left
crosswind.
I went ahead and made the approach, and when I turned final I set up the
slip to hold the crosswind. It took both hands to force the stick over
far
enough to compensate for the wind. I had decided that if I couldn=92t
hold
the crosswind with the little bit of left aileron I had available, I
would
go around and land on 5, where the crosswind would be from my right, but
I
would also have a pretty good tailwind component. Once I got near the
ground, and the trees blocked some of the wind, I found I could relax a
little of the pressure on the stick and actually made a nice 3-point
landing. I immediately pulled into the FBO=92s ramp and got out to see
what
had caused the problem.
What I found was that the front seatback cushion had come loose from its
velcro and had fallen forward, blocking the front stick whenever I tried
to
use left aileron. I now have a bungee cord holding the seatback cushion
in
place to prevent this. The primary culprit seems to be the fact that I
had
not flown the airplane in so long. So as spring creeps its way north,
and
you get ready to fly your plane again for the first time in months, pay
extra attention to all the little things that can relax or get loose
over a
long cold winter.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
If that's what happens over the course of a long cold NC/VA winter, I cring
e
at what could go wrong for those airplanes living up north. 'Tis amazing
they don't have to be glued together again every spring! :P
Good job Jack. Ya know....a faithful Corvair may have just shut it's yap an
d
failed to start....keeping you on the ground and out of harms way. :P
But I digress.....
Ryan
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On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrot
e:
> Every weekend for the past month it has been warm enough to fly in an
> open cockpit, but the winds were so strong that it would just not be
> enjoyable. For example, last Monday it was 72 degrees, but the winds wer
e 42
> knots with gusts to 60 knots, directly across the runway. No thank you.
>
> Today after church it finally seemed to be as close to perfect as I=92m
> likely to see for a while ' temperature 55=B0 and winds 160 at 8 knots
(the
> runway here at Smith Mountain Lake is 5/23). So I pulled the Pietenpol o
ut
> of the hangar for her first flight since November. The faithful non-Corv
air
> started on the first blade. I back-taxied down the runway to take off on
> runway 23, enjoying the nice firm braking (I had bled the brakes yesterda
y
> and they are the best they=92ve ever been).
>
> I took off and set up a nice crab angle to keep me over the runway
> centerline and cruised out over the lake. I got as high as 800 feet AGL
> and enjoyed the nice crisp cool air for about 20 minutes, waving to the
> boat traffic on the lake, before I began to feel cold. So I turned aroun
d
> and headed back to the airport and entered the traffic pattern on a left
> crosswind for 23. As I made the left turn to downwind, I noticed that th
e
> ailerons felt VERY stiff. I tried a turn to the right ' no problem.
> Another turn to the left ' VERY stiff. I found I could only move the
> stick about 2=94 past centerline to the left, and that took quite an
> effort. Sphincter clinch. I needed some left aileron to handle the left
> crosswind. I went ahead and made the approach, and when I turned final I
> set up the slip to hold the crosswind. It took both hands to force the
> stick over far enough to compensate for the wind. I had decided that if
I
> couldn=92t hold the crosswind with the little bit of left aileron I had
> available, I would go around and land on 5, where the crosswind would be
> from my right, but I would also have a pretty good tailwind component. O
nce
> I got near the ground, and the trees blocked some of the wind, I found I
> could relax a little of the pressure on the stick and actually made a nic
e
> 3-point landing. I immediately pulled into the FBO=92s ramp and got out
to
> see what had caused the problem.
>
> What I found was that the front seatback cushion had come loose from its
> velcro and had fallen forward, blocking the front stick whenever I tried
to
> use left aileron. I now have a bungee cord holding the seatback cushion
> in place to prevent this. The primary culprit seems to be the fact that
I
> had not flown the airplane in so long. So as spring creeps its way north
,
> and you get ready to fly your plane again for the first time in months, p
ay
> extra attention to all the little things that can relax or get loose over
> a long cold winter.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
> *
>
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> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
Hi Jerry,
No, my seatbelts are not intentionally removable. Why would you want them
removable? I guess I could unbolt the front ones easily enough, but there's
no reason to. Actually, the front seatbelt is usually pulled down tight
over the bottom seat cushion, preventing it from doing what the seatback
cushion did today.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Finally got to Fly
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
Jack so proud you got to fly and put it up with no wrinkles in it. Murphy's
law still exists! I am wanting to fly so bad and my plane is at least 2 if
not 3 or 4 months away from being finished. I have to tell myself...don't
get in a hurry, no shortcuts, etc so the finished product looks like I want
it. Are your seat belts removable ? I have been thinking about that and what
happened to you is making me think harder. 77 here right now. Just came in
for a drink....building rudder pedals.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331640#331640
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
Drinking and building rudder pedals...What a Man!
Gary
Do not archive!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 1:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Finally got to Fly
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
Jack so proud you got to fly and put it up with no wrinkles in it. Murphy's
law still exists! I am wanting to fly so bad and my plane is at least 2 if
not 3 or 4 months away from being finished. I have to tell myself...don't
get in a hurry, no shortcuts, etc so the finished product looks like I want
it. Are your seat belts removable ? I have been thinking about that and what
happened to you is making me think harder. 77 here right now. Just came in
for a drink....building rudder pedals.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Finally got to Fly |
=93=85The faithful non-Corvair started=85=94 It is SOOOO hard, isn=92t
it? Glad it
ended well!
Gary
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:39 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Finally got to Fly
Every weekend for the past month it has been warm enough to fly in an
open
cockpit, but the winds were so strong that it would just not be
enjoyable.
For example, last Monday it was 72 degrees, but the winds were 42 knots
with
gusts to 60 knots, directly across the runway. No thank you.
Today after church it finally seemed to be as close to perfect as I=92m
likely
to see for a while ' temperature 55=B0 and winds 160 at 8 knots (the
runway
here at Smith Mountain Lake is 5/23). So I pulled the Pietenpol out of
the
hangar for her first flight since November. The faithful non-Corvair
started on the first blade. I back-taxied down the runway to take off
on
runway 23, enjoying the nice firm braking (I had bled the brakes
yesterday
and they are the best they=92ve ever been).
I took off and set up a nice crab angle to keep me over the runway
centerline and cruised out over the lake. I got as high as 800 feet AGL
and
enjoyed the nice crisp cool air for about 20 minutes, waving to the boat
traffic on the lake, before I began to feel cold. So I turned around
and
headed back to the airport and entered the traffic pattern on a left
crosswind for 23. As I made the left turn to downwind, I noticed that
the
ailerons felt VERY stiff. I tried a turn to the right ' no problem.
Another turn to the left ' VERY stiff. I found I could only move the
stick
about 2=94 past centerline to the left, and that took quite an effort.
Sphincter clinch. I needed some left aileron to handle the left
crosswind.
I went ahead and made the approach, and when I turned final I set up the
slip to hold the crosswind. It took both hands to force the stick over
far
enough to compensate for the wind. I had decided that if I couldn=92t
hold
the crosswind with the little bit of left aileron I had available, I
would
go around and land on 5, where the crosswind would be from my right, but
I
would also have a pretty good tailwind component. Once I got near the
ground, and the trees blocked some of the wind, I found I could relax a
little of the pressure on the stick and actually made a nice 3-point
landing. I immediately pulled into the FBO=92s ramp and got out to see
what
had caused the problem.
What I found was that the front seatback cushion had come loose from its
velcro and had fallen forward, blocking the front stick whenever I tried
to
use left aileron. I now have a bungee cord holding the seatback cushion
in
place to prevent this. The primary culprit seems to be the fact that I
had
not flown the airplane in so long. So as spring creeps its way north,
and
you get ready to fly your plane again for the first time in months, pay
extra attention to all the little things that can relax or get loose
over a
long cold winter.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
Hi Jack,I am glad it worked out so you could get it on the ground safely, I have
seat belt attach points but still have not figured out how to keep away from
my big feet.. Gardiner
,
--- On Sun, 2/20/11, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Finally got to Fly
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 5:30 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
> No, my seatbelts are not intentionally removable. Why
> would you want them
> removable? I guess I could unbolt the front ones
> easily enough, but there's
> no reason to. Actually, the front seatbelt is usually
> pulled down tight
> over the bottom seat cushion, preventing it from doing what
> the seatback
> cushion did today.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Raleigh, NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]
> On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:45 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Finally got to Fly
>
> <jdotson@centurylink.net>
>
> Jack so proud you got to fly and put it up with no wrinkles
> in it. Murphy's
> law still exists! I am wanting to fly so bad and my plane
> is at least 2 if
> not 3 or 4 months away from being finished. I have to tell
> myself...don't
> get in a hurry, no shortcuts, etc so the finished product
> looks like I want
> it. Are your seat belts removable ? I have been thinking
> about that and what
> happened to you is making me think harder. 77 here right
> now. Just came in
> for a drink....building rudder pedals.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
> using Lycoming O-235
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331640#331640
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Email Forum -
> FAQ,
> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
> List Contribution Web Site -
> -Matt
> Dralle, List Admin.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
Was thinking the same thing; they didn't cause the issue. Just latch them
and pull them tight if you're not flying with a passenger, and wrap the
loose ends around a few times. Prob solved.
Ryan
do not archive
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
> No, my seatbelts are not intentionally removable. Why would you want them
> removable? I guess I could unbolt the front ones easily enough, but
> there's
> no reason to. Actually, the front seatbelt is usually pulled down tight
> over the bottom seat cushion, preventing it from doing what the seatback
> cushion did today.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Raleigh, NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Dotson
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:45 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Finally got to Fly
>
> <jdotson@centurylink.net>
>
> Jack so proud you got to fly and put it up with no wrinkles in it. Murphy's
> law still exists! I am wanting to fly so bad and my plane is at least 2 if
> not 3 or 4 months away from being finished. I have to tell myself...don't
> get in a hurry, no shortcuts, etc so the finished product looks like I want
> it. Are your seat belts removable ? I have been thinking about that and
> what
> happened to you is making me think harder. 77 here right now. Just came in
> for a drink....building rudder pedals.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
> using Lycoming O-235
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331640#331640
>
>
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| Subject: | Finally got to Fly |
But you gotta admit ' I said nothing detrimental to the Corvair, did
I? 26
days and counting.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Boothe
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Finally got to Fly
=93=85The faithful non-Corvair started=85=94 It is SOOOO hard, isn=92t
it? Glad it
ended well!
Gary
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:39 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Finally got to Fly
Every weekend for the past month it has been warm enough to fly in an
open
cockpit, but the winds were so strong that it would just not be
enjoyable.
For example, last Monday it was 72 degrees, but the winds were 42 knots
with
gusts to 60 knots, directly across the runway. No thank you.
Today after church it finally seemed to be as close to perfect as I=92m
likely
to see for a while ' temperature 55=B0 and winds 160 at 8 knots (the
runway
here at Smith Mountain Lake is 5/23). So I pulled the Pietenpol out of
the
hangar for her first flight since November. The faithful non-Corvair
started on the first blade. I back-taxied down the runway to take off
on
runway 23, enjoying the nice firm braking (I had bled the brakes
yesterday
and they are the best they=92ve ever been).
I took off and set up a nice crab angle to keep me over the runway
centerline and cruised out over the lake. I got as high as 800 feet AGL
and
enjoyed the nice crisp cool air for about 20 minutes, waving to the boat
traffic on the lake, before I began to feel cold. So I turned around
and
headed back to the airport and entered the traffic pattern on a left
crosswind for 23. As I made the left turn to downwind, I noticed that
the
ailerons felt VERY stiff. I tried a turn to the right ' no problem.
Another turn to the left ' VERY stiff. I found I could only move the
stick
about 2=94 past centerline to the left, and that took quite an effort.
Sphincter clinch. I needed some left aileron to handle the left
crosswind.
I went ahead and made the approach, and when I turned final I set up the
slip to hold the crosswind. It took both hands to force the stick over
far
enough to compensate for the wind. I had decided that if I couldn=92t
hold
the crosswind with the little bit of left aileron I had available, I
would
go around and land on 5, where the crosswind would be from my right, but
I
would also have a pretty good tailwind component. Once I got near the
ground, and the trees blocked some of the wind, I found I could relax a
little of the pressure on the stick and actually made a nice 3-point
landing. I immediately pulled into the FBO=92s ramp and got out to see
what
had caused the problem.
What I found was that the front seatback cushion had come loose from its
velcro and had fallen forward, blocking the front stick whenever I tried
to
use left aileron. I now have a bungee cord holding the seatback cushion
in
place to prevent this. The primary culprit seems to be the fact that I
had
not flown the airplane in so long. So as spring creeps its way north,
and
you get ready to fly your plane again for the first time in months, pay
extra attention to all the little things that can relax or get loose
over a
long cold winter.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh, NC
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
Dunno Gary....you could jam your finger pushing that button.....or break a
nail turning that key. You're a braver man than I. ;)
Ryan
do not archive
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> *=93=85**The faithful non-Corvair started=85=94 *It is SOOOO hard, isn
=92t it?
> Glad it ended well!
>
>
> Gary
>
> Do not archive
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack Phillips
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:39 PM
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Finally got to Fly
>
>
> Every weekend for the past month it has been warm enough to fly in an ope
n
> cockpit, but the winds were so strong that it would just not be
> enjoyable. For example, last Monday it was 72 degrees, but the winds wer
e 42
> knots with gusts to 60 knots, directly across the runway. No thank you.
>
> Today after church it finally seemed to be as close to perfect as I=92m
> likely to see for a while ' temperature 55=B0 and winds 160 at 8 knots
(the
> runway here at Smith Mountain Lake is 5/23). So I pulled the Pietenpol o
ut
> of the hangar for her first flight since November. The faithful non-Corv
air
> started on the first blade. I back-taxied down the runway to take off on
> runway 23, enjoying the nice firm braking (I had bled the brakes yesterda
y
> and they are the best they=92ve ever been).
>
> I took off and set up a nice crab angle to keep me over the runway
> centerline and cruised out over the lake. I got as high as 800 feet AGL
and
> enjoyed the nice crisp cool air for about 20 minutes, waving to the boat
> traffic on the lake, before I began to feel cold. So I turned around and
> headed back to the airport and entered the traffic pattern on a left
> crosswind for 23. As I made the left turn to downwind, I noticed that th
e
> ailerons felt VERY stiff. I tried a turn to the right ' no problem.
> Another turn to the left ' VERY stiff. I found I could only move the
> stick about 2=94 past centerline to the left, and that took quite an effo
rt.
> Sphincter clinch. I needed some left aileron to handle the left
> crosswind. I went ahead and made the approach, and when I turned final I
> set up the slip to hold the crosswind. It took both hands to force the
> stick over far enough to compensate for the wind. I had decided that if
I
> couldn=92t hold the crosswind with the little bit of left aileron I had
> available, I would go around and land on 5, where the crosswind would be
> from my right, but I would also have a pretty good tailwind component. O
nce
> I got near the ground, and the trees blocked some of the wind, I found I
> could relax a little of the pressure on the stick and actually made a nic
e
> 3-point landing. I immediately pulled into the FBO=92s ramp and got out
to
> see what had caused the problem.
>
> What I found was that the front seatback cushion had come loose from its
> velcro and had fallen forward, blocking the front stick whenever I tried
to
> use left aileron. I now have a bungee cord holding the seatback cushion
in
> place to prevent this. The primary culprit seems to be the fact that I h
ad
> not flown the airplane in so long. So as spring creeps its way north, an
d
> you get ready to fly your plane again for the first time in months, pay
> extra attention to all the little things that can relax or get loose over
> a long cold winter.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> **
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *http://forums.matronics.com*
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution*
>
> * *
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
Jack the only reason I would want to remove them is from looking at cockpit pictures
with the belts in a pile on the floor next to the rear rudder pedals. I
am not to that point but I want them out of my way when flying solo which will
most likely be 90% of the time.
Gary the drink is coffee. I learned a long time ago that alcohol heightens the
ambitions and lessons the performance. So whilst working on the Piet coffee and
water.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331654#331654
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| Subject: | Freaky control jams |
After reading Jack's control jam issue, I wanted to share this. In 2003 two
of my sons and flew the Aeronca Sedan down to Kitty Hawk to celebrate the
100th anniversary of flight. On the way home we stopped for fuel at a mount
ain strip that was down in a little valley surrounded my mountains on all s
ides. My son was PIC and did a run-up and control check at the end of the r
unway. He lined-up and gave her the gun. We proceeded down the runway and r
ight before lift-off the engine sputtered and quit. After looking around a
bit, we discovered that the mixture control had been pulled out. We had (fo
r the first time) been using one of those control yoke GPS attachments that
clamps onto the yoke tube. When my son was checking the controls for freed
om of movement, this attachment had gotten behind the mixture control knob
and inadvertently pulled it out without our knowledge.
Close call for sure. One of those freaky things that can reach out and kill
you................ Be careful out there!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Starting final assembly |
Howdy,finally done with the paint and powder coating,should have her in the air
in may,dave
--------
Covering Piet
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| Subject: | Future Piet flyer |
Well I couldn't resist sharing this picture of my 2 yr old "helping" me in
the shop, he is sitting in the future "Ernst Kessler", bipe, Like a Piet on
ly smaller......and 2 wings....and- has a weird shaped turtle deck.
-
Shad=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Future Piet flyer |
I don't think he has a weird shaped turtle deck. He looks just fine.
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 6:43 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well I couldn't resist sharing this picture of my 2 yr old "helping" me
> in the shop, he is sitting in the future "Ernst Kessler", bipe, Like a Piet
> only smaller......and 2 wings....and has a weird shaped turtle deck.
>
> Shad
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Streamline Tubing |
Dear group,
Since this topic is appropriate to my question, I will "Hijack it".
I am building the Sky Scout and the landing gear calls for "Streamline tube
No. 1695" for the rear landing "strut". Does anyone know the specifics of
this tubing? I ordered Chromoly Streamline tubing from ACS of the correct
dimensions (1.5"X3/4") but its wall thickness is only .049, the thickest
they carry. This seems rather thin compared to the front tube of the
landing gear which is 1.5" X 11 gauge wall thickness. I have the parts cut
out but will await your sage advice before welding.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks and fly SAFELY,
Ray Krause
Waiex 51YX, Jabiru 3300 (1197), Sensenich wood prop, AeroCarb (#2 needle
modified), Dynon D-180, Garmin SL 30 NavCom, Garmin 327 transponder, Garmin
Aera 560, nav and strobe lights: 240 hrs., building Sky Scout.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken_P" <ken.potts1@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:54 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing
>
> Yes Gary,
> I feel I must verify Jack's integrity. He has sworn to not disparage
> Covair engines for another 28 days and counting and he's done an admirable
> job so far even though I tried to draw him out today (he's undoubtedly a
> better man than I).
> However, he hasn't sworn off declaring the CH750 as "Uglier than the box
> a sonex was delivered in" and I fully expect to hear about that.
> And when he finds himself in Australia I hope he will look me up and
> teach me how to fly that spam can.
> Back to lurking...
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331589#331589
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
I keep my front belts out of the way when solo by twisting the shoulder
harnesses around each other a few times, then buckling them to the lap
belt, then drawing that tight. Keeps everything out of the way. It
wouldn't be safe to fly without these belts secured, but it would be a
pain to reinstall them when you wanted to take a passenger, and you
might find that happening more often than you think.
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Florida
On 2/20/2011 7:00 PM, Jerry Dotson wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jerry Dotson"<jdotson@centurylink.net>
>
> Jack the only reason I would want to remove them is from looking at cockpit pictures
with the belts in a pile on the floor next to the rear rudder pedals.
I am not to that point but I want them out of my way when flying solo which will
most likely be 90% of the time.
>
> Gary the drink is coffee. I learned a long time ago that alcohol heightens the
ambitions and lessons the performance. So whilst working on the Piet coffee
and water.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
> using Lycoming O-235
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331654#331654
>
>
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got to Fly |
A good reason to implement the patented "Mike Cuy" removable front joy
stick.
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I keep my front belts out of the way when solo by twisting the shoulder
> harnesses around each other a few times, then buckling them to the lap belt,
> then drawing that tight. Keeps everything out of the way. It wouldn't be
> safe to fly without these belts secured, but it would be a pain to reinstall
> them when you wanted to take a passenger, and you might find that happening
> more often than you think.
>
> Ben Charvet
> Titusville, Florida
> On 2/20/2011 7:00 PM, Jerry Dotson wrote:
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jerry Dotson"<
>> jdotson@centurylink.net>
>>
>> Jack the only reason I would want to remove them is from looking at
>> cockpit pictures with the belts in a pile on the floor next to the rear
>> rudder pedals. I am not to that point but I want them out of my way when
>> flying solo which will most likely be 90% of the time.
>>
>> Gary the drink is coffee. I learned a long time ago that alcohol heightens
>> the ambitions and lessons the performance. So whilst working on the Piet
>> coffee and water.
>>
>> --------
>> Jerry Dotson
>> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
>> Baker, FL 32531
>>
>> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
>> wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
>> using Lycoming O-235
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331654#331654
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Ben Charvet, PharmD
> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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Did you guys rib lace your ailerons?
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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| Subject: | Re: Starting final assembly |
Wow, you work fast Dave. Only wish the pics were a bit smaller so that I don't
have to scroll all over the screen to see what I'm supposed to be looking at.
If you need tips on how to resize your photos, feel free to contact me offline
at billmz (at) cox dot net. Just type in the email address in the normal
format...
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331683#331683
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| Subject: | Re: Starting final assembly |
I've taken the liberty of resizing the images and reposting them...
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331685#331685
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/dangerdaveresized002_209.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/dangerdaveresized001_201.jpg
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| Subject: | Out of town on business back on Monday |
Sux being me
A few pics to share
Aloha
John
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| Subject: | Where's waldo any Piet builders here |
80s during the day gosh I like this place
Anyone building a Piet here in Hawaii
Don Ho rules
Aloha
John
Tiny bibles to all
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