Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 02/21/11


Total Messages Posted: 16



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:37 AM - Re: Starting final assembly (Dangerous Dave)
     2. 03:54 AM - Re: Re: Starting final assembly (Charles Campbell)
     3. 04:18 AM - Re: Out of town on business back on Monday (Jerry Dotson)
     4. 04:25 AM - Do not Archive (Jack)
     5. 04:44 AM - Re: Re: Streamline Tubing (helspersew@aol.com)
     6. 04:44 AM - Re: Aileron lacing (helspersew@aol.com)
     7. 05:04 AM - Re: Aileron lacing (Jack Phillips)
     8. 05:42 AM - Jeff Boatright (Gary Boothe)
     9. 05:54 AM - Finally got to Fly (Oscar Zuniga)
    10. 06:13 AM - YouTube video - working on the firewall... (aerocarjake)
    11. 07:15 AM - Re: Jeff Boatright (K5YAC)
    12. 10:13 AM - Re: Re: Aileron lacing (Jack)
    13. 10:40 AM - Re: YouTube video - working on the firewall... (Jack)
    14. 04:32 PM - Re: YouTube video - working on the firewall... (aerocarjake)
    15. 07:09 PM - Re: YouTube video - working on the firewall... (Billy McCaskill)
    16. 07:49 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Tubing (Ray Krause)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:37:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Starting final assembly
    From: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
    Billy,Thanks for resizing them.Guess I should get a program installed to do it myself.dave do not archive -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331695#331695


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    Time: 03:54:55 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Starting final assembly
    My computer automatically resizes them. Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 12:34 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Starting final assembly > > I've taken the liberty of resizing the images and reposting them... > > -------- > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331685#331685 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dangerdaveresized002_209.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dangerdaveresized001_201.jpg > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:18:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Out of town on business back on Monday
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    John what in the world are you doing at Pearl Harbor? Never heard of need for a safety man there. You come on home now. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331699#331699


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    Time: 04:25:35 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Do not Archive
    Do any of our computer literate folks out there have a way to "short-cut" the "do not archive" function? It would be nice to, lets say, hit the F1 function key to perform the operation. Jack DSM Archive


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    Time: 04:44:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Streamline Tubing
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Hi Ray, A few years ago I had to fabricate a tailwheel bracket assembly for My Aero nca Sedan (legal because there are non available) all made out of various s izes of streamline tubing. I was faced with the same situation as you. The main strut tubing that was used in 1948 was thicker than what I could get. So I noticed that I could order the next size smaller and it would actually slide inside of the thin walled tube, with a little filing/grinding. The e nds were all welded in my assembly so nobody was the wiser. I was assured t hat the final product was as strong or stronger that the original. Don't kn ow if this trick will work for you. If not maybe you could slip some round or square tube in there and weld the two together. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL -----Original Message----- From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2011 8:06 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing et> Dear group, Since this topic is appropriate to my question, I will "Hijack it". I am building the Sky Scout and the landing gear calls for "Streamline tube o. 1695" for the rear landing "strut". Does anyone know the specifics of his tubing? I ordered Chromoly Streamline tubing from ACS of the correct imensions (1.5"X3/4") but its wall thickness is only .049, the thickest hey carry. This seems rather thin compared to the front tube of the anding gear which is 1.5" X 11 gauge wall thickness. I have the parts cut ut but will await your sage advice before welding. Thanks in advance. Thanks and fly SAFELY, Ray Krause Waiex 51YX, Jabiru 3300 (1197), Sensenich wood prop, AeroCarb (#2 needle odified), Dynon D-180, Garmin SL 30 NavCom, Garmin 327 transponder, Garmin era 560, nav and strobe lights: 240 hrs., building Sky Scout. ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Ken_P" <ken.potts1@gmail.com> o: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> ent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:54 PM ubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing Yes Gary, I feel I must verify Jack's integrity. He has sworn to not disparage Covair engines for another 28 days and counting and he's done an admirable job so far even though I tried to draw him out today (he's undoubtedly a better man than I). However, he hasn't sworn off declaring the CH750 as "Uglier than the box a sonex was delivered in" and I fully expect to hear about that. And when he finds himself in Australia I hope he will look me up and teach me how to fly that spam can. Back to lurking... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331589#331589 -======================== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 04:44:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aileron lacing
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    I rib-laced mine. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2011 8:41 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron lacing Did you guys rib lace your ailerons? -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds" -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 05:04:08 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Aileron lacing
    Yep. They're part of the wing aren't they? Did all the tail surfaces, too. I hate it when you are diving down on the tail of a black and yellow German and suddenly hear the fabric ripping off your flying surfaces. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron lacing Did you guys rib lace your ailerons? -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"


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    Time: 05:42:14 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Jeff Boatright
    Anyone heard from Jeff lately? JEFF, are you out there? Everything OK? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear, RIBS DONE!


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    Time: 05:54:08 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Finally got to Fly
    I finally took the time to patch the slow leak on the port side inner tube (thanks to John Kuhfahl for the tire patch kit!) and took Scout up yesterday. It's been windy here too, but it's good practice to fly when it's less than ideal and it turned out to be fun to go up with some gusty x-winds. Flew over to fuel up at a neighboring field and landed into what must have been a 15-18 MPH quartering headwind, landed so short that I ended up taxiing a quarter of the length of the runway just to get to the turnoff. It was great to be up flying, especially solo with a brisk wind so the airplane really climbs out. The seatbelts and shoulder harness in the front cockpit of my airplane are quickly and easily removable and I wouldn't have it any other way. They just get in the way of your feet when there is nobody up front. And a comment on AmSafety's post: that would be tiny BUBBLES, not tiny BIBLES, that Don Ho sang about. However, Bibles of any shape and size are a good thing too ;o) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" San Antonio, TX website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 06:13:31 AM PST US
    Subject: YouTube video - working on the firewall...
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Hello list, A friend of mine (thanks Ron) took another video yesterday of my Pietenpol project. This one focuses on "engine turning" the firewall. http://www.youtube.com/user/Lakefrontseattle#p/a/u/0/q-EfkzEjQOo For clarification... I stumbled my speaking a bit when talking about the product I used to build the burnishing tool. It's called "Cratex" and is available at places that sell machining supplies. I bought a couple sticks local here in Seattle. The largest size is a 2" x 1" x 6" rectangular bar and it is part number 6168C. (Also available online - for example: http://www.grithappens.com/products.php?m=cratex&mid=25&cat=390) -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331718#331718


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    Time: 07:15:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jeff Boatright
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    I know that he is alive, but don't ask me how I know. LOL! Surely he'll be around to say howdy. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331727#331727


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    Time: 10:13:29 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Aileron lacing
    Beats the heck out of your CRANK SNAPPIN. Easy Jack. Jack DSM _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 6:54 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron lacing Yep. They're part of the wing aren't they? Did all the tail surfaces, too. I hate it when you are diving down on the tail of a black and yellow German and suddenly hear the fabric ripping off your flying surfaces. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron lacing Did you guys rib lace your ailerons? -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds" http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 10:40:10 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: YouTube video - working on the firewall...
    Looks great Jake! Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:11 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: YouTube video - working on the firewall... Hello list, A friend of mine (thanks Ron) took another video yesterday of my Pietenpol project. This one focuses on "engine turning" the firewall. http://www.youtube.com/user/Lakefrontseattle#p/a/u/0/q-EfkzEjQOo For clarification... I stumbled my speaking a bit when talking about the product I used to build the burnishing tool. It's called "Cratex" and is available at places that sell machining supplies. I bought a couple sticks local here in Seattle. The largest size is a 2" x 1" x 6" rectangular bar and it is part number 6168C. (Also available online - for example: http://www.grithappens.com/products.php?m=cratex&mid=25&cat=390) -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331718#331718


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    Time: 04:32:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: YouTube video - working on the firewall...
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Thanks Jack.... having' lots of fun - this building a plane thing...! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331782#331782


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    Time: 07:09:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: YouTube video - working on the firewall...
    From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
    Nice video Jake! You're making great progress. That blue tape you have holding that Rotec radial on the nose of your plane must be some mighty strong stuff! ;-) do not archive -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331789#331789


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    Time: 07:49:54 PM PST US
    From: "Ray Krause" <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Streamline Tubing
    Thanks, Dan. But we do not know what the No. 1695 dimensions were, right? What does the Air Camper recommend as far as Streamline tubing goes? Ray Krause ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 4:40 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing Hi Ray, A few years ago I had to fabricate a tailwheel bracket assembly for My Aeronca Sedan (legal because there are non available) all made out of various sizes of streamline tubing. I was faced with the same situation as you. The main strut tubing that was used in 1948 was thicker than what I could get. So I noticed that I could order the next size smaller and it would actually slide inside of the thin walled tube, with a little filing/grinding. The ends were all welded in my assembly so nobody was the wiser. I was assured that the final product was as strong or stronger that the original. Don't know if this trick will work for you. If not maybe you could slip some round or square tube in there and weld the two together. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL -----Original Message----- From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2011 8:06 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing <raykrause@frontiernet.net> Dear group, Since this topic is appropriate to my question, I will "Hijack it". I am building the Sky Scout and the landing gear calls for "Streamline tube No. 1695" for the rear landing "strut". Does anyone know the specifics of this tubing? I ordered Chromoly Streamline tubing from ACS of the correct dimensions (1.5"X3/4") but its wall thickness is only .049, the thickest they carry. This seems rather thin compared to the front tube of the landing gear which is 1.5" X 11 gauge wall thickness. I have the parts cut out but will await your sage advice before welding. Thanks in advance. Thanks and fly SAFELY, Ray Krause Waiex 51YX, Jabiru 3300 (1197), Sensenich wood prop, AeroCarb (#2 needle modified), Dynon D-180, Garmin SL 30 NavCom, Garmin 327 transponder, Garmin Aera 560, nav and strobe lights: 240 hrs., building Sky Scout. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken_P" <ken.potts1@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:54 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing > > Yes Gary, > I feel I must verify Jack's integrity. He has sworn to not disparage > Covair engines for another 28 days and counting and he's done an admirable > job so far even though I tried to draw him out today (he's undoubtedly a > better man than I). > However, he hasn't sworn off declaring the CH750 as "Uglier than the box > a sonex was delivered in" and I fully expect to hear about that. > And when he finds himself in Australia I hope he will look me up and > teach me how to fly that spam can. > Back to lurking... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331589#331589 > > > " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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