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1. 02:08 AM - Re: Out of the Blue (Jack)
2. 03:14 AM - I need some help please (giacummo)
3. 03:50 AM - Re: I need some help please (Jerry Dotson)
4. 03:54 AM - Re: I need some help please (Jack)
5. 05:59 AM - sniping tools (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 06:24 AM - Re: Out of the Blue (TOM STINEMETZE)
7. 06:41 AM - Re: Out of the Blue (TOM STINEMETZE)
8. 08:55 AM - Re: Out of the Blue (kevinpurtee)
9. 09:41 AM - Re: Out of the Blue (TOM STINEMETZE)
10. 09:41 AM - Retracing Pietenpol (hvandervoo@aol.com)
11. 09:45 AM - Re: ferrules for .090 hard wire (Catdesigns)
12. 09:51 AM - Re: I need some help please (V Groah)
13. 09:54 AM - Re: Out of the Blue (V Groah)
14. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: Out of the Blue (Jack)
15. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: Out of the Blue (Jack)
16. 10:14 AM - Re: I need some help please (giacummo)
17. 10:58 AM - Re: ferrules for .090 hard wire (womenfly2)
18. 05:40 PM - Re: I need some help please (helspersew@aol.com)
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Tom,
Bore us with the fluff! Do you have a link to the story?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:20 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Out of the Blue
Listers:
I had a unique experience today that I thought I would relate to you. About
a week ago our local paper was having a slow news day so they did a front
page story about my Piet project in their series covering unusual hobbies.
The story was fluff and I am not going to bore you with that. However on
Monday a stranger by the name of Robert Bartell walked into my office and
said that he had seen my picture and the story about my Pietenpol in the
paper and just wanted to meet me and tell me his story.
It turns out that his grandfather, one Randy Penner, had an experience with
a Pietenpol back in the early 30's. Mr. Penner is a fairly well renouned
artist (now deceased) who has a published book entitled "Harvest of
Memories." Attached are two pages from the book containing the Pietenpol
story and a watercolor of the event by Mr. Penner.
Hillsboro is a small Kansas town with a current population of 2,904 -
probably more like 1,000 at the time of the story. Mr. Bartell's dad
remembers going out to the field with Mr. Penner to watch the big event.
Compared with watching the wheat grow this would have been a big crowd
pleaser back then. I just wish the story was a little more specific about
the date and the name of the aircraft owner. It would be a real hoot to
track that plane down and see if it would still be repairable.
Note that some liberties have already been taken with the Aircamper design
(Oh the Horror!) My eye was immediately drawn to the rounded shape of the
vertical stab and rudder. Also, split gear with motorcycle wheels (just
like mine) and a Model A engine. Guess he could not afford a Corvair.
(Just kidding, the Corvair would not be available until the 60's.) The wing
center section has maybe the hint of a flop showing.
Enjoy!
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
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Subject: | I need some help please |
Hello,
I need some help from you; I need an engine for the Piet I am building.
In the beginin I was thinking in a VW bla, bla, bla, but one day I found a website
named BARNSTORMERS and I find there a lot of engines like A65 at a very good
prices... but I don know how they are.
My idea is buy one there in USA (I live in Uruguay) and bring it it here (as an
sport airplane engine it do not pay taxes). But the problem is "see the engine"
or at least a comment from a therth about the state of it.
Supose I found an engine, can I ask you here for someone to see it if it is phisicaly
(location) possible, to have some comments about? pros, conts, yes no...
could it be? javascript:emoticon('[Wink]')
Thank you, and best regards.
Mario
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Subject: | Re: I need some help please |
Mario,
I think the A-65 will be a much better choice than the VW. There are some great
A-65's out there BUT there is a lot of worn out/rusty junk out there too.
Be patient and watch Barnstormer's. Maybe someone on the LIST here will know of
a good one. I think the guys on the list would be very trustworthy. A really
great bunch of people hang out here. Any of the small Continental engines would
be a good choice. A-75, C-85, C-90 & O-200(100) horsepower.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | I need some help please |
Mario,
Good to hear from you! I'm sure many Piet builder/owners would help with
that. I'm not sure of how practical that would be. You would be trusting
someone else's judgment as to the quality of the engine. You might consider
an AP/IA mechanic to build you an engine. That way you can be sure you have
a good engine. For a C65, C75 or C85 you can build one for less than a
Corvair conversion. I've been very happy with my engine that Tom Wottreng
built for me. Pictures here... http://textors.com/PietProject.html
Best to you!
Jack
DSM
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of giacummo
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 5:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: I need some help please
Hello,
I need some help from you; I need an engine for the Piet I am building.
In the beginin I was thinking in a VW bla, bla, bla, but one day I found a
website named BARNSTORMERS and I find there a lot of engines like A65 at a
very good prices... but I don know how they are.
My idea is buy one there in USA (I live in Uruguay) and bring it it here (as
an sport airplane engine it do not pay taxes). But the problem is "see the
engine" or at least a comment from a therth about the state of it.
Supose I found an engine, can I ask you here for someone to see it if it is
phisicaly (location) possible, to have some comments about? pros, conts, yes
no... could it be? javascript:emoticon('[Wink]')
Thank you, and best regards.
Mario
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Jack;
I use EZSniper for all of my eBay bidding, otherwise I
go with the 'Buy It Now'. EZSniper has been very
successful in winning the auctions that I bid on. Just
ask Gardiner Mason... he drove the truck that I won on
eBay a few weeks ago, using EZSniper ;o)
I guess what I'm saying is that there are good products
out there that don't hijack your personal info and that
do work well.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
San Antonio, TX
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Re: Out of the Blue |
Rick:
I don't know anything about copyright law but I think you would be safe if
you just made one for yourself and did not sell them. I scanned the photo
directly from Mr. Penner's book. I am going to try and get a copy of the
book myself as this is just one of several stories of life in the 20's and
30's - rural Kansas. I have attached a copy of the back of the book
containing the ISBN information should anybody be interested.
Stinemetze
N328X
>>> Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> 2/24/2011 6:21 PM >>>
Great story Tom, the picture is beautiful, would like to frame a copy of
that.
rick
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Ooo Jack. You are a glutton for punishment. Here is the link:
http://www.mcphersonsentinel.com/features/x1349633460/Interesting-Interests
-Tom-Stinemetze
The link to the photo on the page appears to be broken so I have attached
a copy. This would help scare the mice and birds out of your shop.
Tom
>>> "Jack" <jack@textors.com> 2/25/2011 4:06 AM >>>
Tom,
Bore us with the fluff! Do you have a link to the story?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Re: Out of the Blue |
Nice article, Tom. Love the picture! Nice work. Makes me homesick!
Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: Out of the Blue |
Well, as to the picture - If it was taken today you would have to fight
your way up the driveway across 1/4" of ice and when the door opened there
would be SpaceShipZeroPointOne sitting on a wood framework with the
landing gear removed. I am relocating the axels (or is that axles)
forward 5 inches and moving the wheels outward to the correct plan
location. I just knew there was a reason my deck angle didn't look right.
DOUGH!
My sons took me aside one day while they were home and carefully explained
that there was no mistake that could not be corrected - wood , metal, or
composite. It is better to learn from your mistakes and make it right
than to get into the "that's close enough" mindset. BUT, you also have to
understand that it will NEVER be perfect. If I don't quit rebuilding it
then completion day will never get here.
Just looked out the window and it's snowing again. Another cold night in
the garage.
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 2/25/2011 10:52 AM >>>
Nice article, Tom. Love the picture! Nice work. Makes me homesick!
Kevin
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Subject: | Retracing Pietenpol |
I am planning a trip back to my home country.
While websurfing for some locations to visit, I found this one;
http://www.ijsboerderijoldepietepol.nl/
History reads that this farm orginally was owned by the Pietenpol family an
d sold when leaving for America.
The current family owns it for 5 genaration now.
Odds are likely this was owned by Bernards Parent or grand Parents.
Currently operates as a dairy farm / creamery.
Hans
NX15KV
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Subject: | Re: ferrules for .090 hard wire |
To the best of my knowledge ferrules for hard wire are not available. Making your
own might be a problem because the furls consist of spiral wound hard wire
but have an oval interior not round. However, I bet some of the antique restoration
places have had make them when building Jennies or other old airplanes.
You could try one of these shops. If that does not work out, you can always do
what most people do, and that is substitute 1/8th inch cable for the hard wire.
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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Subject: | I need some help please |
Very nice build photos=2C you must be more organized than we are. We have
photos but not organized like that. Nice work. Vic 414MV ready to cover.
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> From: jack@textors.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: I need some help please
> Date: Fri=2C 25 Feb 2011 05:49:36 -0600
>
>
> Mario=2C
> Good to hear from you! I'm sure many Piet builder/owners would help with
> that. I'm not sure of how practical that would be. You would be trusting
> someone else's judgment as to the quality of the engine. You might consid
er
> an AP/IA mechanic to build you an engine. That way you can be sure you ha
ve
> a good engine. For a C65=2C C75 or C85 you can build one for less than a
> Corvair conversion. I've been very happy with my engine that Tom Wottreng
> built for me. Pictures here... http://textors.com/PietProject.html
> Best to you!
> Jack
> DSM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of giacummo
> Sent: Friday=2C February 25=2C 2011 5:11 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: I need some help please
>
m>
>
> Hello=2C
>
> I need some help from you=3B I need an engine for the Piet I am building.
> In the beginin I was thinking in a VW bla=2C bla=2C bla=2C but one day I
found a
> website named BARNSTORMERS and I find there a lot of engines like A65 at
a
> very good prices... but I don know how they are.
> My idea is buy one there in USA (I live in Uruguay) and bring it it here
(as
> an sport airplane engine it do not pay taxes). But the problem is "see th
e
> engine" or at least a comment from a therth about the state of it.
> Supose I found an engine=2C can I ask you here for someone to see it if i
t is
> phisicaly (location) possible=2C to have some comments about? pros=2C con
ts=2C yes
> no... could it be? javascript:emoticon('[Wink]')
>
> Thank you=2C and best regards.
>
> Mario
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332073#332073
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Good stuff=2C keep up the good work=2C Vic
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From: TOMS@mcpcity.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Out of the Blue
Ooo Jack. You are a glutton for punishment. Here is the link:
http://www.mcphersonsentinel.com/features/x1349633460/Interesting-Interests
-Tom-Stinemetze
The link to the photo on the page appears to be broken so I have attached a
copy. This would help scare the mice and birds out of your shop.
Tom
>>> "Jack" <jack@textors.com> 2/25/2011 4:06 AM >>>
Tom=2C
Bore us with the fluff! Do you have a link to the story?
Thanks=2C
Jack
DSM
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Tom,
Shame on you for not including the article earlier! Great story and
picture! You are making some good headway.
Thanks!
Jack
DSM
do
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Out of the Blue
Ooo Jack. You are a glutton for punishment. Here is the link:
http://www.mcphersonsentinel.com/features/x1349633460/Interesting-Interests-
Tom-Stinemetze
The link to the photo on the page appears to be broken so I have attached a
copy. This would help scare the mice and birds out of your shop.
Tom
>>> "Jack" <jack@textors.com> 2/25/2011 4:06 AM >>>
Tom,
Bore us with the fluff! Do you have a link to the story?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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Tom,
Shame on you for not including the article earlier! Great story and
picture! You are making some good headway.
Thanks!
Jack
DSM
do
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Out of the Blue
Ooo Jack. You are a glutton for punishment. Here is the link:
http://www.mcphersonsentinel.com/features/x1349633460/Interesting-Interests-
Tom-Stinemetze
The link to the photo on the page appears to be broken so I have attached a
copy. This would help scare the mice and birds out of your shop.
Tom
>>> "Jack" <jack@textors.com> 2/25/2011 4:06 AM >>>
Tom,
Bore us with the fluff! Do you have a link to the story?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Re: I need some help please |
jeje, look here (my little place) : http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
The place where Jack is working is unbilivable, his photographs are helping me a lot, very very detailed, he send me too a lot of others photos not published in his site, are incredible.. there is an other envidiable place with very good photgraphs... . Steve Chase. www.mypiet.com
But talking about the engine.. If I see one I am going to ask you about it, may
be you can help me decide.
regards
[quote="vgroah(at)hotmail.com"]Very nice build photos, you must be more organized
than we are. We have photos but not organized like that.Nicework. Vic 414MV
ready to cover.
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> From: jack@textors.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: I need some help please
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:49:36 -0600
>
>
> Mario,
> Good to hear from you! I'm sure many Piet builder/owners would help with
> that. I'm not sure of how practical that would be. You would be trusting
> someone else's judgment as to the quality of the engine. You might consider
> an AP/IA mechanic to build you an engine. That way you can be sure you have
> a good engine. For a C65, C75 or C85 you can build one for less than a
> Corvair conversion. I've been very happy with my engine that Tom Wottreng
> built for me. Pictures here... http://textors.com/PietProject.html
> Best to you!
> Jack
> DSM
>
> --
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Subject: | Re: ferrules for .090 hard wire |
Take the wire and on a lath make a long spring by forming it over a round mandrel.
Then cut to the length you need. To flatten or oval it, just use a vise to
squeeze it. Make sure you adjust the inside diameter before to allow for fitting
the two .09 wires in it before you flatten.
Any small machine shop could do this for you if you do not have a lath. If you
look at some back issues of the Buckeye Pietenpol Newsletter, you can find an
article my Dad and I did on this very topic.
Good Luck!
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Subject: | Re: I need some help please |
Hello Mario,
Very nice photos. Looks like some nice high-quality work. Do you know Santi
ago Morete from Santa Rosa, Argentina? Moretesantiago@yahoo.ar, He was abl
e to attend Brodhead and Oshkosh '08, and we all got to meet him.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:14 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: I need some help please
Hello,
I need some help from you; I need an engine for the Piet I am building.
n the beginin I was thinking in a VW bla, bla, bla, but one day I found a
ebsite named BARNSTORMERS and I find there a lot of engines like A65 at a v
ery
ood prices... but I don know how they are.
y idea is buy one there in USA (I live in Uruguay) and bring it it here (as
an
port airplane engine it do not pay taxes). But the problem is "see the engi
ne"
r at least a comment from a therth about the state of it.
upose I found an engine, can I ask you here for someone to see it if it is
hisicaly (location) possible, to have some comments about? pros, conts, yes
o... could it be? javascript:emoticon('[Wink]')
Thank you, and best regards.
Mario
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