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1. 04:56 AM - I need some help please (JOSEPH SWITHIN)
2. 05:49 AM - Re: I need some help please (Jack)
3. 09:46 AM - Florida Flying/Sun-N-Fun (Ben Charvet)
4. 10:23 AM - Re: I need some help please (giacummo)
5. 11:40 AM - firewall insulating barrier (Kenneth Bickers)
6. 01:47 PM - Re: firewall insulating barrier (Rick Holland)
7. 02:43 PM - Rudder bar and forward controls (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
8. 04:17 PM - Re: firewall insulating barrier (Richard Schreiber)
9. 05:35 PM - HELP (Dick N)
10. 06:40 PM - Re: Rudder bar and forward controls (Rick Holland)
11. 06:45 PM - Re: HELP (Gene Rambo)
12. 07:00 PM - Re: HELP (Dick N)
13. 07:35 PM - Re: Rudder bar and forward controls (Michael Perez)
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Subject: | I need some help please |
Vic,
The pictures of Jack's project are great, but in person you would be blown away.
I had the pleasure to meet Jack and his wife last Saturday on a visit to Des
Moines. It turns out my step-daughter lives just around the corner from them. As
I' am just getting started it really got me excited to see his project and the
quality of his craftsmanship. If only this weather would straighten up so I
could get in the shop!
Thanks again Jack for the Piet visit and the great advise.
Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
Starting with the ribs soon.
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Subject: | I need some help please |
It is always fun to "talk Piets", thank you Joe.
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOSEPH
SWITHIN
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: I need some help please
Vic,
The pictures of Jack's project are great, but in person you would be blown
away. I had the pleasure to meet Jack and his wife last Saturday on a visit
to Des Moines. It turns out my step-daughter lives just around the corner
from them. As I' am just getting started it really got me excited to see his
project and the quality of his craftsmanship. If only this weather would
straighten up so I could get in the shop!
Thanks again Jack for the Piet visit and the great advise.
Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
Starting with the ribs soon.
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Subject: | Florida Flying/Sun-N-Fun |
Its hard to believe that its time for my first annual condition
inspection. Took the Piet up for 1/2 hour just to warm up the oil, and
was comfortable wearing a t-shirt and shorts! I'm planning to have the
Piet over at Sun-N Fun for the whole week. Anyone else flying in?
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
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Subject: | Re: I need some help please |
Hey Jack, thanks me, I am presenting you your neighbors ;0)
And Dan, about Morete yes I exchange some mails with him; here in Uruguay there
is an other constructor (or future constructor) who told me he thought to build
a Piet, he went with his son to Brodhead in 09.. and when he saw them, so perfects,
and very laborious works, he change his wishes for something easier (Legal
Eagle).
At home (country) ther is just only one homebuild aircraft, a Mini Max, build it
by Pepe Ifran.. I have to go to talk with him, but he lives far away from home/job
place... some day
Se you on monday, regards
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332150#332150
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Subject: | firewall insulating barrier |
I'm approaching a point where I'll need to install a firewall. I'm
wondering if there is any consensus on the need/desirability of
installing a heat resistant barrier (e.g., fiberfrax) between the
plywood and the stainless or galvanized sheet metal firewall.
Those of you further along or with flying Piets, what have you done?
Thanks, Ken
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Subject: | Re: firewall insulating barrier |
Ken
>From what I have read that the fiberfrax is not necessary if using stainless
on the firewall (but doesn't hurt). I just used the .016 stainless. I have a
firewall size piece of fiberfrax if you need some.
rick
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Kenneth Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>wrote:
> bickers.ken@gmail.com>
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> I'm approaching a point where I'll need to install a firewall. I'm
> wondering if there is any consensus on the need/desirability of
> installing a heat resistant barrier (e.g., fiberfrax) between the
> plywood and the stainless or galvanized sheet metal firewall.
> Those of you further along or with flying Piets, what have you done?
>
> Thanks, Ken
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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Subject: | Rudder bar and forward controls |
Any issues with using standard cold rolled-tubing for use on the Rudder b
ar and forward foot controls?-I need to know if structural tubing is the
choice over standard tubing; if so why?-Also, are any of you reinforcing
the floor under the rudder bar mount as I find it somewhat flexible.
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KMHeide
Hawley, MN=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: firewall insulating barrier |
Rick:
I would be interested in the Fiberfrax. Contact me offline.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, In
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
Sent: 2/26/2011 3:49:23 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: firewall insulating barrier
Ken
>From what I have read that the fiberfrax is not necessary if using stainless on
the firewall (but doesn't hurt). I just used the .016 stainless. I have a firewall
size piece of fiberfrax if you need some.
rick
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Kenneth Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm approaching a point where I'll need to install a firewall. I'm
wondering if there is any consensus on the need/desirability of
installing a heat resistant barrier (e.g., fiberfrax) between the
plywood and the stainless or galvanized sheet metal firewall.
Those of you further along or with flying Piets, what have you done?
Thanks, Ken
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This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a
Pietenpol Fuselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what
we build to Brodhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol
reunion this summer, for the concrete floor at the new visitors center.
Dave Aldrich is going to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks
to contribute te plywood. What we still need are steel fittings, (
bell crank, torque tube, tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing
fittings). Is there anyone out there that can make a set for us? If
you can, please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we
cant pay for them but I appreciate what ever you all can do. Of couse
if you can contribute anything else we can use anything (engine mount,
wing struts, fuel tank, tail wheel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of
things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use
someplace that would be perfect for our plane.
Dick N
horzpool@goldengate.net
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Subject: | Re: Rudder bar and forward controls |
Have you installed the cross-member that runs from the rear ash piece to the
top of the rudder bar? Mine felt wobbly until I added that, no need to
reinforce the 1/4" floor.
rick
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:39 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> **Any issues with using standard cold rolled tubing for use on the Rudder
> bar and forward foot controls? I need to know if structural tubing is the
> choice over standard tubing; if so why? Also, are any of you reinforcing the
> floor under the rudder bar mount as I find it somewhat flexible.
>
>
> KMHeide
> Hawley, MN
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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Dick=2C I have a Model A engine mount and radiator mount that came off of J
ack McCarthy's Piet when he converted. I would be happy to donate these to
the cause.
Gene Rambo
From: horzpool@goldengate.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: HELP
This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a Pietenpol F
uselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what we build to Bro
dhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol reunion this summer
=2C for the concrete floor at the new visitors center. Dave Aldrich is goi
ng to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks to contribute te plywoo
d. What we still need are steel fittings=2C ( bell crank=2C torque tube
=2C tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing fittings). Is there an
yone out there that can make a set for us? If you can=2C please contact me
off list? I know this is short notice and we cant pay for them but I appr
eciate what ever you all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything e
lse we can use anything (engine mount=2C wing struts=2C fuel tank=2C tail w
heel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've
been meaning to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane.
Dick N
horzpool@goldengate.net
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Thats great Gene. For that, are you going to SNF or I can also pick up.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Rambo
To: pietenpol-list
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP
Dick, I have a Model A engine mount and radiator mount that came off
of Jack McCarthy's Piet when he converted. I would be happy to donate
these to the cause.
Gene Rambo
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From: horzpool@goldengate.net
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: HELP
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:25:01 -0600
This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a
Pietenpol Fuselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what
we build to Brodhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol
reunion this summer, for the concrete floor at the new visitors center.
Dave Aldrich is going to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks
to contribute te plywood. What we still need are steel fittings, (
bell crank, torque tube, tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing
fittings). Is there anyone out there that can make a set for us? If
you can, please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we
cant pay for them but I appreciate what ever you all can do. Of couse
if you can contribute anything else we can use anything (engine mount,
wing struts, fuel tank, tail wheel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of
things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use
someplace that would be perfect for our plane.
Dick N
horzpool@goldengate.net
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Subject: | Re: Rudder bar and forward controls |
Standard tubing is what I used. (.035" wall SS)
Agreed... once the top support is in...no wobble.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
--- On Sat, 2/26/11, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar and forward controls
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 9:32 PM
> Have you installed the cross-member that
> runs from the rear ash piece to the top of the rudder bar?
> Mine felt wobbly until I added that, no need to reinforce
> the 1/4" floor.
>
> rick
>
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> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:39 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> Any issues
> with using standard cold rolledtubing for use on the
> Rudder bar and forward foot controls?I need to know if
> structural tubing is the choice over standard tubing; if so
> why?Also, are any of you reinforcing the floor under the
> rudder bar mount as I find it somewhat flexible.
>
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> KMHeide
> Hawley,
> MN
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> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
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> "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little
> Minds"
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