Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 02/26/11


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:56 AM - I need some help please (JOSEPH SWITHIN)
     2. 05:49 AM - Re: I need some help please (Jack)
     3. 09:46 AM - Florida Flying/Sun-N-Fun (Ben Charvet)
     4. 10:23 AM - Re: I need some help please (giacummo)
     5. 11:40 AM - firewall insulating barrier (Kenneth Bickers)
     6. 01:47 PM - Re: firewall insulating barrier (Rick Holland)
     7. 02:43 PM - Rudder bar and forward controls (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
     8. 04:17 PM - Re: firewall insulating barrier (Richard Schreiber)
     9. 05:35 PM - HELP (Dick N)
    10. 06:40 PM - Re: Rudder bar and forward controls (Rick Holland)
    11. 06:45 PM - Re: HELP (Gene Rambo)
    12. 07:00 PM - Re: HELP (Dick N)
    13. 07:35 PM - Re: Rudder bar and forward controls (Michael Perez)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:56:43 AM PST US
    From: JOSEPH SWITHIN <joeswithin@yahoo.com>
    Subject: I need some help please
    Vic, The pictures of Jack's project are great, but in person you would be blown away. I had the pleasure to meet Jack and his wife last Saturday on a visit to Des Moines. It turns out my step-daughter lives just around the corner from them. As I' am just getting started it really got me excited to see his project and the quality of his craftsmanship. If only this weather would straighten up so I could get in the shop! Thanks again Jack for the Piet visit and the great advise. Joe Swithin Morris, IL Starting with the ribs soon.


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    Time: 05:49:17 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: I need some help please
    It is always fun to "talk Piets", thank you Joe. Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOSEPH SWITHIN Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:54 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: I need some help please Vic, The pictures of Jack's project are great, but in person you would be blown away. I had the pleasure to meet Jack and his wife last Saturday on a visit to Des Moines. It turns out my step-daughter lives just around the corner from them. As I' am just getting started it really got me excited to see his project and the quality of his craftsmanship. If only this weather would straighten up so I could get in the shop! Thanks again Jack for the Piet visit and the great advise. Joe Swithin Morris, IL Starting with the ribs soon.


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    Time: 09:46:59 AM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Florida Flying/Sun-N-Fun
    Its hard to believe that its time for my first annual condition inspection. Took the Piet up for 1/2 hour just to warm up the oil, and was comfortable wearing a t-shirt and shorts! I'm planning to have the Piet over at Sun-N Fun for the whole week. Anyone else flying in? Ben Charvet Titusville, Fl


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    Time: 10:23:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I need some help please
    From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
    Hey Jack, thanks me, I am presenting you your neighbors ;0) And Dan, about Morete yes I exchange some mails with him; here in Uruguay there is an other constructor (or future constructor) who told me he thought to build a Piet, he went with his son to Brodhead in 09.. and when he saw them, so perfects, and very laborious works, he change his wishes for something easier (Legal Eagle). At home (country) ther is just only one homebuild aircraft, a Mini Max, build it by Pepe Ifran.. I have to go to talk with him, but he lives far away from home/job place... some day Se you on monday, regards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332150#332150


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    Time: 11:40:03 AM PST US
    Subject: firewall insulating barrier
    From: Kenneth Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
    I'm approaching a point where I'll need to install a firewall. I'm wondering if there is any consensus on the need/desirability of installing a heat resistant barrier (e.g., fiberfrax) between the plywood and the stainless or galvanized sheet metal firewall. Those of you further along or with flying Piets, what have you done? Thanks, Ken


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    Time: 01:47:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: firewall insulating barrier
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Ken >From what I have read that the fiberfrax is not necessary if using stainless on the firewall (but doesn't hurt). I just used the .016 stainless. I have a firewall size piece of fiberfrax if you need some. rick On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Kenneth Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>wrote: > bickers.ken@gmail.com> > > I'm approaching a point where I'll need to install a firewall. I'm > wondering if there is any consensus on the need/desirability of > installing a heat resistant barrier (e.g., fiberfrax) between the > plywood and the stainless or galvanized sheet metal firewall. > Those of you further along or with flying Piets, what have you done? > > Thanks, Ken > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"


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    Time: 02:43:34 PM PST US
    From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Rudder bar and forward controls
    Any issues with using standard cold rolled-tubing for use on the Rudder b ar and forward foot controls?-I need to know if structural tubing is the choice over standard tubing; if so why?-Also, are any of you reinforcing the floor under the rudder bar mount as I find it somewhat flexible. - - KMHeide Hawley, MN=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 04:17:47 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: firewall insulating barrier
    Rick: I would be interested in the Fiberfrax. Contact me offline. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, In ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland Sent: 2/26/2011 3:49:23 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: firewall insulating barrier Ken >From what I have read that the fiberfrax is not necessary if using stainless on the firewall (but doesn't hurt). I just used the .016 stainless. I have a firewall size piece of fiberfrax if you need some. rick On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Kenneth Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote: I'm approaching a point where I'll need to install a firewall. I'm wondering if there is any consensus on the need/desirability of installing a heat resistant barrier (e.g., fiberfrax) between the plywood and the stainless or galvanized sheet metal firewall. Those of you further along or with flying Piets, what have you done? Thanks, Ken ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds" No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 05:35:02 PM PST US
    From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: HELP
    This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a Pietenpol Fuselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what we build to Brodhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol reunion this summer, for the concrete floor at the new visitors center. Dave Aldrich is going to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks to contribute te plywood. What we still need are steel fittings, ( bell crank, torque tube, tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing fittings). Is there anyone out there that can make a set for us? If you can, please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we cant pay for them but I appreciate what ever you all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything else we can use anything (engine mount, wing struts, fuel tank, tail wheel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane. Dick N horzpool@goldengate.net


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    Time: 06:40:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder bar and forward controls
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Have you installed the cross-member that runs from the rear ash piece to the top of the rudder bar? Mine felt wobbly until I added that, no need to reinforce the 1/4" floor. rick On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:39 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>wrote: > > * > * > **Any issues with using standard cold rolled tubing for use on the Rudder > bar and forward foot controls? I need to know if structural tubing is the > choice over standard tubing; if so why? Also, are any of you reinforcing the > floor under the rudder bar mount as I find it somewhat flexible. > > > KMHeide > Hawley, MN > > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"


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    Time: 06:45:42 PM PST US
    From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
    Subject: HELP
    Dick=2C I have a Model A engine mount and radiator mount that came off of J ack McCarthy's Piet when he converted. I would be happy to donate these to the cause. Gene Rambo From: horzpool@goldengate.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: HELP This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a Pietenpol F uselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what we build to Bro dhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol reunion this summer =2C for the concrete floor at the new visitors center. Dave Aldrich is goi ng to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks to contribute te plywoo d. What we still need are steel fittings=2C ( bell crank=2C torque tube =2C tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing fittings). Is there an yone out there that can make a set for us? If you can=2C please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we cant pay for them but I appr eciate what ever you all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything e lse we can use anything (engine mount=2C wing struts=2C fuel tank=2C tail w heel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane. Dick N horzpool@goldengate.net


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    Time: 07:00:53 PM PST US
    From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: HELP
    Thats great Gene. For that, are you going to SNF or I can also pick up. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP Dick, I have a Model A engine mount and radiator mount that came off of Jack McCarthy's Piet when he converted. I would be happy to donate these to the cause. Gene Rambo ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: horzpool@goldengate.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: HELP Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:25:01 -0600 This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a Pietenpol Fuselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what we build to Brodhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol reunion this summer, for the concrete floor at the new visitors center. Dave Aldrich is going to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks to contribute te plywood. What we still need are steel fittings, ( bell crank, torque tube, tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing fittings). Is there anyone out there that can make a set for us? If you can, please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we cant pay for them but I appreciate what ever you all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything else we can use anything (engine mount, wing struts, fuel tank, tail wheel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane. Dick N horzpool@goldengate.net st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 07:35:49 PM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder bar and forward controls
    Standard tubing is what I used. (.035" wall SS) Agreed... once the top support is in...no wobble. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com --- On Sat, 2/26/11, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar and forward controls > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 9:32 PM > Have you installed the cross-member that > runs from the rear ash piece to the top of the rudder bar? > Mine felt wobbly until I added that, no need to reinforce > the 1/4" floor. > > rick > > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:39 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Any issues > with using standard cold rolledtubing for use on the > Rudder bar and forward foot controls?I need to know if > structural tubing is the choice over standard tubing; if so > why?Also, are any of you reinforcing the floor under the > rudder bar mount as I find it somewhat flexible. > > > > > KMHeide > Hawley, > MN > > > > > > > > > > > > " > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > > "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little > Minds" > > > > > >




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