---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/27/11: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:48 AM - Re: HELP (Gene Rambo) 2. 05:50 AM - Re: HELP (Ben Charvet) 3. 07:59 AM - Re: firewall insulating barrier (Jack Phillips) 4. 09:07 AM - Re: HELP (Dick N) 5. 09:07 AM - Re: HELP (Dick N) 6. 03:11 PM - Slow list day.........How about this idea? (helspersew@aol.com) 7. 04:34 PM - Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (skellytown flyer) 8. 05:13 PM - Re: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (Kenneth Bickers) 9. 05:14 PM - Re: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (Michael Perez) 10. 05:21 PM - Fabric-Tape Thickness (Jack) 11. 05:25 PM - Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (Gary Boothe) 12. 06:09 PM - Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (Jim Boyer) 13. 06:25 PM - Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (Darrel Jones) 14. 06:30 PM - Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (Gary Boothe) 15. 07:13 PM - Re: Fabric-Tape Thickness (aerocarjake) 16. 08:41 PM - Centerburg OH, Piet Fly-In (shad bell) 17. 09:07 PM - Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (Michael Groah) 18. 10:06 PM - Last WWI US Vet has passed (Ryan Mueller) 19. 10:20 PM - Re: Last WWI US Vet has passed (Gerry Holland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:38 AM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP dont know if I am going=2C but I won't be able to bring down if I do. If y ou are going through this area=2C pick up would be great=2C we can pick aro und and see if there is anything else I have extra. If not in this area=2C I could ship to you. Gene do not archive From: horzpool@goldengate.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP Thats great Gene. For that=2C are you going to SNF or I can also pick up. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo Sent: Saturday=2C February 26=2C 2011 8:42 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP Dick=2C I have a Model A engine mount and radiator mount that came off of J ack McCarthy's Piet when he converted. I would be happy to donate these to the cause. Gene Rambo From: horzpool@goldengate.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: HELP This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a Pietenpol F uselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what we build to Bro dhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol reunion this summer =2C for the concrete floor at the new visitors center. Dave Aldrich is goi ng to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks to contribute te plywoo d. What we still need are steel fittings=2C ( bell crank=2C torque tube =2C tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing fittings). Is there an yone out there that can make a set for us? If you can=2C please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we cant pay for them but I appr eciate what ever you all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything e lse we can use anything (engine mount=2C wing struts=2C fuel tank=2C tail w heel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane. Dick N horzpool@goldengate.net st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:05 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP I have a motormount for a Corvair that I built before I decided to use a Continental. I'm sure I'll never use it, so if you think it would help I can bring it. Ben Charvet Titusville, Fl On 2/26/2011 8:25 PM, Dick N wrote: > This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a > Pietenpol Fuselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what > we build to Brodhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol > reunion this summer, for the concrete floor at the new visitors > center. Dave Aldrich is going to contribute the wood and I am working > on Wicks to contribute te plywood. What we still need are steel > fittings, ( bell crank, torque tube, tail brackets and rudder assy > bar also the wing fittings). Is there anyone out there that can make > a set for us? If you can, please contact me off list? I know this is > short notice and we cant pay for them but I appreciate what ever you > all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything else we can use > anything (engine mount, wing struts, fuel tank, tail wheel or? ) I"m > sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've been meaning > to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane. > Dick N > horzpool@goldengate.net > * > > > * -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:44 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: firewall insulating barrier I put fiberfrax on mine. You don't really need it, if you don't need the firewall. If the engine catches fire, the more insulation the better. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Bickers Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 2:37 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: firewall insulating barrier I'm approaching a point where I'll need to install a firewall. I'm wondering if there is any consensus on the need/desirability of installing a heat resistant barrier (e.g., fiberfrax) between the plywood and the stainless or galvanized sheet metal firewall. Those of you further along or with flying Piets, what have you done? Thanks, Ken ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:06 AM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP Hey Ben That would be great. I don't know what kind of engine we are going to use. If you don't mind, we could also sell it at Brodhead if we don't use it. You can find me at the Wood workshop all week.\ Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Charvet To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:46 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP I have a motormount for a Corvair that I built before I decided to use a Continental. I'm sure I'll never use it, so if you think it would help I can bring it. Ben Charvet Titusville, Fl On 2/26/2011 8:25 PM, Dick N wrote: This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a Pietenpol Fuselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what we build to Brodhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol reunion this summer, for the concrete floor at the new visitors center. Dave Aldrich is going to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks to contribute te plywood. What we still need are steel fittings, ( bell crank, torque tube, tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing fittings). Is there anyone out there that can make a set for us? If you can, please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we cant pay for them but I appreciate what ever you all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything else we can use anything (engine mount, wing struts, fuel tank, tail wheel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane. Dick N horzpool@goldengate.net -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:06 AM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP Hey again Gene I don't remember where you are. I know it's in the east. I can do that though. I am going early about the 17th of March. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:45 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP dont know if I am going, but I won't be able to bring down if I do. If you are going through this area, pick up would be great, we can pick around and see if there is anything else I have extra. If not in this area, I could ship to you. Gene do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: horzpool@goldengate.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:56:19 -0600 Thats great Gene. For that, are you going to SNF or I can also pick up. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP Dick, I have a Model A engine mount and radiator mount that came off of Jack McCarthy's Piet when he converted. I would be happy to donate these to the cause. Gene Rambo ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: horzpool@goldengate.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: HELP Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:25:01 -0600 This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a Pietenpol Fuselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what we build to Brodhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol reunion this summer, for the concrete floor at the new visitors center. Dave Aldrich is going to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks to contribute te plywood. What we still need are steel fittings, ( bell crank, torque tube, tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing fittings). Is there anyone out there that can make a set for us? If you can, please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we cant pay for them but I appreciate what ever you all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything else we can use anything (engine mount, wing struts, fuel tank, tail wheel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane. Dick N horzpool@goldengate.net st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? From: helspersew@aol.com Hi Pieters, I have been working diligently (and slowly) on rebuilding my "A" since the mishap last Sept. when my timing gear disintegrated. I decided to continue to use my 8-plug head, powered by one crank-driven mag, and a hybrid electr onic ignition/battery ignition system. I bought a 4.4 lb. battery from ACS, which will energize the coil (looks like standard Model A coil) via a smal l electronic ignition module. I am imagining a small solar panel mounted on the fuel tank cover, to charge the battery. OK let the flames begin. (it's OK because I used Fiberfrax) And no smart as s remarks like "What would Bernerd say, Dan?" Dan Helsper Puryear TN., (until tomorrow only) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? From: "skellytown flyer" I don't know what the output of a solar panel that size would be but I'd be surprised if it was enough to keep the battery up in-flight with steady ignition draw. seems like a small generator driven by a small prop in the slipstream would be a lot cooler looking.but of course heavier. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332232#332232 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? From: Kenneth Bickers I like this. Think of the possibilities of having the small prop on the belly. You can tell people it is a pre-WWII JATO. Or that you are getting your twin rating in the Piet. Or that with the radiator on the top, you needed a way to keep the bottom of the engine cool. Or that, though you have to make several passes, you use it to cut your own strip for off-airport landings. I'm sure others can come up with other possibilities. Cheers, Ken On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:31 PM, skellytown flyer wrote: > > I don't know what the output of a solar panel that size would be but I'd be surprised if it was enough to keep the battery up in-flight with steady ignition draw. seems like a small generator driven by a small prop in the slipstream would be a lot cooler looking.but of course heavier. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332232#332232 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:56 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? I like it...anything out of the norm. works for me. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:11 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fabric-Tape Thickness I've be guestimating the thickness of the fabric, tape, etc on the edges of my framework of about .055. Anybody out there in the fabric stage care to offer a good estimate for these measurements? Thanks, Jack DSM Do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:25:07 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? Dan =93 No flames here! Us auto-engine converters have to stick together! A good weekend, here, too. Got all my spars shaped and rough sanded. Also resolved a long-time headache: How to reduce from a 3/8=9D fuel line to 1/8=9D primer line? Simple answer: Take a block of aluminum and make a =98manifold=99....3/8=9D in...1/8=9D out. Gary Boothe From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 3:09 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? Hi Pieters, I have been working diligently (and slowly) on rebuilding my "A" since the mishap last Sept. when my timing gear disintegrated. I decided to continue to use my 8-plug head, powered by one crank-driven mag, and a hybrid electronic ignition/battery ignition system. I bought a 4.4 lb. battery from ACS, which will energize the coil (looks like standard Model A coil) via a small electronic ignition module. I am imagining a small solar panel mounted on the fuel tank cover, to charge the battery. OK let the flames begin. (it's OK because I used Fiberfrax) And no smart ass remarks like "What would Bernerd say, Dan?" Dan Helsper Puryear TN., (until tomorrow only) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:31 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:08 PM PST US From: Darrel Jones Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:37 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? Jim, I don't know about anyone else, but your emails are still coming thru blank... Gary Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:29 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fabric-Tape Thickness From: "aerocarjake" I could use that thickness info as well.... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332254#332254 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:53 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Pietenpol-List: Centerburg OH, Piet Fly-In Hello Guys, just letting everyone know that I plan on hosting another Piete npol Fly-in on June 17, 18 (Fri and Sat.) at Chapman Memorial OH71-again this year weather permitting.- If you want to fly- in on friday and cam p your welcome to.- And for all you guys (Jack Phillips) with those alumi num go-faster's, you welcome to drop in as well.- I will supply the hotdo gs, and drinks, if you can carry a covered dish etc bring one, there will b e a donation jar to help cover expenses like port-o-potty etc.- Last year was a little lean on airplanes due to weather, but not on fun.- We had 3 or 4 people drive in who are building pietenpols, and Skipp, and Ed flew t heir piets up from WV.- So if you think you might be interested let me kn ow, I will start a roster to make sure no one goes hungry.- - Shad - p.s. With all the rain we got today, you might need some floats to get in h ere! =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:26 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? They're blank on my end too. Mike Groah Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:23 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > Jim, > > I don't know about anyone else, but your emails are still coming thru > blank... > > Gary > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:07 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed From: Ryan Mueller http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/02/27/wwi.veteran.death/ ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:20:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed From: Gerry Holland We will never see the likes of characters like these people or those of WWI I ever again. 2 special generations who lived through the most changing times history has ever known. I=B9m fortunately old enough to to have known them as Grand Parents and Mum and Dad. Still we have learnt nothing! 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