---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/28/11: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:26 AM - Dan, WWBS (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 05:26 AM - Re: Centerburg OH, Piet Fly-In (Jack Phillips) 3. 05:57 AM - Re: HELP (Gene Rambo) 4. 06:13 AM - Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (Charles Campbell) 5. 06:27 AM - Re: Centerburg OH, Piet Fly-In (Kip and Beth Gardner) 6. 06:30 AM - Re: Last WWI US Vet has passed (Charles Campbell) 7. 06:57 AM - Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (bender) 8. 07:05 AM - Re: Last WWI US Vet has passed (Kip and Beth Gardner) 9. 07:06 AM - Re: Last WWI US Vet has passed (Ryan Mueller) 10. 09:49 AM - Re: Last WWI US Vet has passed (Doug Dever) 11. 10:30 AM - N8031 (Jack) 12. 10:32 AM - Jim Markle/Others Help (Michael Perez) 13. 10:40 AM - Jim Markle/Others Help Clarification (Michael Perez) 14. 10:50 AM - Re: N8031 (Ryan Mueller) 15. 10:57 AM - Re: N8031 (Jack Phillips) 16. 11:35 AM - Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? (Jim Boyer) 17. 12:48 PM - weekend (bender) 18. 01:13 PM - Seeking Dallas, TX Pietenpol member (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP) 19. 03:01 PM - Re: weekend (Michael Perez) 20. 03:08 PM - Re: weekend (Ryan Mueller) 21. 04:02 PM - Re: Rudder bar and forward controls (Bill Church) 22. 05:15 PM - Re: Dan, WWBS (helspersew@aol.com) 23. 05:20 PM - Re: Last WWI US Vet has passed (Charles Campbell) 24. 06:06 PM - Re: HELP (Dick N) 25. 09:05 PM - 4 foot center section (TOM MICHELLE BRANT) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:29 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dan, WWBS Tisk, Tisk. What would Bernard say!!??? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:29 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Centerburg OH, Piet Fly-In Ah, the fly-in season is getting started. In anticipation of this we just held "Brodhead South" this past weekend. No flying, just friends, fellowship and flatulence. Ryan Mueller, John Hofmann, Bill Church, Gene Rambo, Rob Busch and Mike Cuy invaded my home in North Carolina. By Saturday morning my wife had had enough and we were forced to adjourn to my hangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia. At least there we could look at my Pietenpol, but it was just a bit too cold to fly it (temps were only in the upper 50's). However we did eat the requisite meal of bratwursts (thanks to John shipping sausages down from Wisconsin) around the Pietenpol, and made plans for Brodhead 2011. A good time was had by all. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Centerburg OH, Piet Fly-In Hello Guys, just letting everyone know that I plan on hosting another Pietenpol Fly-in on June 17, 18 (Fri and Sat.) at Chapman Memorial OH71 again this year weather permitting. If you want to fly in on friday and camp your welcome to. And for all you guys (Jack Phillips) with those aluminum go-faster's, you welcome to drop in as well. I will supply the hotdogs, and drinks, if you can carry a covered dish etc bring one, there will be a donation jar to help cover expenses like port-o-potty etc. Last year was a little lean on airplanes due to weather, but not on fun. We had 3 or 4 people drive in who are building pietenpols, and Skipp, and Ed flew their piets up from WV. So if you think you might be interested let me know, I will start a roster to make sure no one goes hungry. Shad p.s. With all the rain we got today, you might need some floats to get in here! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:26 AM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP Basically Washington DC. Aircraft is at Culpeper=2C Virginia about 60 mile s southwest of city. Gene From: horzpool@goldengate.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP Hey again Gene I don't remember where you are. I know it's in the east. I can do that th ough. I am going early about the 17th of March. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo Sent: Sunday=2C February 27=2C 2011 6:45 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP dont know if I am going=2C but I won't be able to bring down if I do. If y ou are going through this area=2C pick up would be great=2C we can pick aro und and see if there is anything else I have extra. If not in this area=2C I could ship to you. Gene do not archive From: horzpool@goldengate.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP Thats great Gene. For that=2C are you going to SNF or I can also pick up. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo Sent: Saturday=2C February 26=2C 2011 8:42 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP Dick=2C I have a Model A engine mount and radiator mount that came off of J ack McCarthy's Piet when he converted. I would be happy to donate these to the cause. Gene Rambo From: horzpool@goldengate.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: HELP This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a Pietenpol F uselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what we build to Bro dhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol reunion this summer =2C for the concrete floor at the new visitors center. Dave Aldrich is goi ng to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks to contribute te plywoo d. What we still need are steel fittings=2C ( bell crank=2C torque tube =2C tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing fittings). Is there an yone out there that can make a set for us? If you can=2C please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we cant pay for them but I appr eciate what ever you all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything e lse we can use anything (engine mount=2C wing struts=2C fuel tank=2C tail w heel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane. Dick N horzpool@goldengate.net st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:38 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? Me too! Several E-mails the last few days have been blank. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boothe" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:23 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? > > Jim, > > I don't know about anyone else, but your emails are still coming thru > blank... > > Gary > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:07 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:19 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Centerburg OH, Piet Fly-In Well at least we now know who the IN crowd is. Corvair-haters all ! ;) Do Not archive Kip Gardner On Feb 28, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: > Ah, the fly-in season is getting started. In anticipation of this we just held =93Brodhead South=94 this past weekend. No flying, just friends, fellowship and flatulence. Ryan Mueller, John Hofmann, Bill Church, Gene Rambo, Rob Busch and Mike Cuy invaded my home in North Carolina. By Saturday morning my wife had had enough and we were forced to adjourn to my hangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia. At least there we could look at my Pietenpol, but it was just a bit too cold to fly it (temps were only in the upper 50=92s). However we did eat the requisite meal of bratwursts (thanks to John shipping sausages down from Wisconsin) around the Pietenpol, and made plans for Brodhead 2011. > > > > A good time was had by all. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94 > Raleigh, NC > > > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:38 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Centerburg OH, Piet Fly-In > > Hello Guys, just letting everyone know that I plan on hosting another Pietenpol Fly-in on June 17, 18 (Fri and Sat.) at Chapman Memorial OH71 again this year weather permitting. If you want to fly in on friday and camp your welcome to. And for all you guys (Jack Phillips) with those aluminum go-faster's, you welcome to drop in as well. I will supply the hotdogs, and drinks, if you can carry a covered dish etc bring one, there will be a donation jar to help cover expenses like port-o-potty etc. Last year was a little lean on airplanes due to weather, but not on fun. We had 3 or 4 people drive in who are building pietenpols, and Skipp, and Ed flew their piets up from WV. So if you think you might be interested let me know, I will start a roster to make sure no one goes hungry. > > Shad > > p.s. With all the rain we got today, you might need some floats to get in here! > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:36 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed I hope to be the last living WW2 vet. Got a long way to go, though! I might make it. I was always the "baby" of all the units I was attached to. I was the youngest to graduate from US Navy flight school until George HW Bush came along and beat me by a couple of months. Chuck Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Mueller To: Corvaircraft List ; Pietenpol List Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:04 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/02/27/wwi.veteran.death/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:48 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea? From: "bender" Hey Dan ... do you have the FSI ignition parts in there ?? they say it will work on 6-16 volts.. i can't imagine the current draw being very high myself but i see this as a good backup... Maybe a good primary ignition with more of a power source.. wind or engine generator.. i noticed the spark advance is wired in place...i can see another lever in the cockpit.... folks today don't get it i leave the keys in my 30 AA all the time.. only old guys know how to start it...fuel on... retard spark...open throttle..choke..step on the right button...fun to drive but you gotta know how jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332299#332299 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aa_195.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:10 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed Best of Luck to you Charles. My Dad was the 'old man' of his unit, older even than the real 'old man', who got the CO job because he was from a 'connected' old-money family from VA, although my dad said he did a good job in spite of that & they remained friends after the war. Growing up as an orphan, cared for by relatives, dad graduated from college (1st in his family, dirt farmers from MN) in 1939 & served in the S. Pacific as a jg, captaining an auxillary craft as part of the move through the Solomon Islands following Guadalcanal. Went on after the war to be a successful businessman, raise 3 kids & earn a long & well-deserved retirement. We lost him last Spring at 93. Miss him a lot. do not archive Kip Gardner On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Charles Campbell wrote: > I hope to be the last living WW2 vet. Got a long way to go, > though! I might make it. I was always the "baby" of all the units > I was attached to. I was the youngest to graduate from US Navy > flight school until George HW Bush came along and beat me by a > couple of months. Chuck > > Do not archive. > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed From: Ryan Mueller HW isn't the youngest naval aviator either...that title falls to Capt Chuck (he's even got the letter from HW on the wall attesting to the fact): http://www.rrstar.com/news/x687822314/Voices-of-History-Living-on-wings-of-freedom On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Charles Campbell wrote: > I hope to be the last living WW2 vet. Got a long way to go, though! I > might make it. I was always the "baby" of all the units I was attached to. > I was the youngest to graduate from US Navy flight school until George HW > Bush came along and beat me by a couple of months. Chuck > > Do not archive. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ryan Mueller > *To:* Corvaircraft List ; Pietenpol List > *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2011 1:04 AM > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed > > http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/02/27/wwi.veteran.death/ > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:34 AM PST US From: Doug Dever Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed Yeah My dad had plenty of good stories. Not of the war but of building Cor sairs for Goodyear aircraft and later the B-29. Could've kicked himself fo r not buying a few Corsairs when they were $800. Doug Dever In beautiful Stow Ohio Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed From: gholland@content-stream.co.uk We will never see the likes of characters like these people or those of WWI I ever again. 2 special generations who lived through the most changing times history has ever known. I=92m fortunately old enough to to have known them as Grand Parents and Mum and Dad. Still we have learnt nothing! Do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:30:06 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: N8031 Who on the list owns this Piet? Holy cow does it get flown, I've enjoyed the pictures here https://picasaweb.google.com/TresClements Thanks Jack DSM Do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:32:15 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle/Others Help Jim, I see you welded aluminum plates on to your aluminum wing struts where they attach to the fuselage. This is the same idea I was thinking of using. I assume you welded a plate to both top and bottom of the strut? It looks to be about 1/4" think, is this correct? How do you like/are you happy with the struts welded this way? My attach fitting will only allow for a single bolt where as you used two, any issues with a single 5/16" or 3/8" bolt? Anyone else have ideas/opinions? Thank for your help. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:31 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle/Others Help Clarification You can ignore my single bolt comment. After looking again at Jim's pictures on West Coast Piet., I see he used steel straps inside the strut. Still, curious to the aluminum welded plates though. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N8031 From: Ryan Mueller That would be Dan Yocum's. Tres is the gentleman he bought it from: [image: dan.jpg] On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Jack wrote: > Who on the list owns this Piet? Holy cow does it get flown, I've enjoyed > the > pictures here https://picasaweb.google.com/TresClements > Thanks > Jack > DSM > > Do not archive > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:57:45 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: N8031 Looks like Dan Yocum's to me Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____________________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:24 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: N8031 Who on the list owns this Piet? Holy cow does it get flown, I've enjoyed the pictures here https://picasaweb.google.com/TresClements Thanks Jack DSM Do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:58 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? Okay, I will try to find out why. Thanks, Jim B. Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Groah" Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:00:21 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? They're blank on my end too. Mike Groah Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2011, at 6:23 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > Jim, > > I don't know about anyone else, but your emails are still coming thru > blank... > > Gary > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:07 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slow list day.........How about this idea? > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:48:27 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: weekend From: "bender" Got my wingtips on and ailerons cut out in the last day or so... glued some 1/8 ply to the inboard side of the ailerons... nothing in the F & G manual about what to do there... may add capstrip to the inside of the ply.. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332320#332320 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tip_114.jpg ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:13:29 PM PST US From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seeking Dallas, TX Pietenpol member Members: Seeking a Dallas, Texas area pietenpol member for assistance. please respond to my email or send me a number I can reach you at. KMHeide Hawley, MN ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:01:12 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: weekend Cap strip and plywood is what I did. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:06 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: weekend From: Ryan Mueller No carbon fiber? Geez..... do not archive On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Michael Perez wrote: > Cap strip and plywood is what I did. > > Michael Perez > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:09 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder bar and forward controls From: "Bill Church" One quick comment to Michael regarding the rudder bar. You write that you used "standard tubing - .035" wall SS". Just be aware that stainless steel tubing typically has only half the Yield Strength of 4130 - and in this case, the plans specifically mention to use chro-moly tubing for the rudder bar. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332335#332335 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dan, WWBS From: helspersew@aol.com Didn't I just tell you not to say that? do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Douwe Blumberg Sent: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 7:27 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dan, WWBS Tisk, Tisk What would Bernard say!!??? -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:20:20 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed Sorry about your loss. If he graduated college in 39 he was "the old man". I finished high school in June '41, joined the Navy in July. Went on to go to flight school and finished in Sept '43. Those were the days, as the song goes. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kip and Beth Gardner To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed Best of Luck to you Charles. My Dad was the 'old man' of his unit, older even than the real 'old man', who got the CO job because he was from a 'connected' old-money family from VA, although my dad said he did a good job in spite of that & they remained friends after the war. Growing up as an orphan, cared for by relatives, dad graduated from college (1st in his family, dirt farmers from MN) in 1939 & served in the S. Pacific as a jg, captaining an auxillary craft as part of the move through the Solomon Islands following Guadalcanal. Went on after the war to be a successful businessman, raise 3 kids & earn a long & well-deserved retirement. We lost him last Spring at 93. Miss him a lot. do not archive Kip Gardner On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Charles Campbell wrote: I hope to be the last living WW2 vet. Got a long way to go, though! I might make it. I was always the "baby" of all the units I was attached to. I was the youngest to graduate from US Navy flight school until George HW Bush came along and beat me by a couple of months. Chuck Do not archive. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:14 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP Gene I have had a number of e mails back and forth with guys from the Wood Shop about which fuselage and which engine we are going to use. What it comes to is if you are comfortable with us putting the Model A with a Long fuselage and maybe having it seperated later I would still love to have it. However if you arent comfortable with it being sold seperatly, Please say so at this point and we will all understand. I definrtly be willing to drive to D.C. to pick it up on the way to SNF. Please let me know. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 7:52 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP Basically Washington DC. Aircraft is at Culpeper, Virginia about 60 miles southwest of city. Gene ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: horzpool@goldengate.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:01:06 -0600 Hey again Gene I don't remember where you are. I know it's in the east. I can do that though. I am going early about the 17th of March. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:45 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP dont know if I am going, but I won't be able to bring down if I do. If you are going through this area, pick up would be great, we can pick around and see if there is anything else I have extra. If not in this area, I could ship to you. Gene do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: horzpool@goldengate.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HELP Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:56:19 -0600 Thats great Gene. For that, are you going to SNF or I can also pick up. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: HELP Dick, I have a Model A engine mount and radiator mount that came off of Jack McCarthy's Piet when he converted. I would be happy to donate these to the cause. Gene Rambo ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: horzpool@goldengate.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: HELP Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:25:01 -0600 This year at Sun n Fun in the Wood Shop we are going to build a Pietenpol Fuselage and tail section. We are then going to donate what we build to Brodhead airport to be auctioned or sold at the Pietenpol reunion this summer, for the concrete floor at the new visitors center. Dave Aldrich is going to contribute the wood and I am working on Wicks to contribute te plywood. What we still need are steel fittings, ( bell crank, torque tube, tail brackets and rudder assy bar also the wing fittings). Is there anyone out there that can make a set for us? If you can, please contact me off list? I know this is short notice and we cant pay for them but I appreciate what ever you all can do. Of couse if you can contribute anything else we can use anything (engine mount, wing struts, fuel tank, tail wheel or? ) I"m sure there a lot of things around the hangar floor you've been meaning to sell or use someplace that would be perfect for our plane. Dick N horzpool@goldengate.net st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:18 PM PST US From: TOM MICHELLE BRANT Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4 foot center section So here's my version of a 4 foot center section. This should allow for a l ot more fuel to burn once my Corvair crankshaft snaps. I haven't figured o ut the actual volume yet - the design is kinda evolving. I had some ideas about it that as I put them together=2C "it was revealed" that my ideas wer e not going to work. I have quite a bit more work to do=2C but I thought I 'd share a couple pics as this stage. I just realized that if my plans fall together (financial plans) by mid sum mer=2C I should have all the major airframe and engine components to put th is aircraft together. If you notice though=2C I didn't mention which summe r : ) Should be ordering my spars soon - the stuff I got from McKormicks just didn't pan out like I thought so I'll use the wood elsewhere. If you think about it=2C for spar material (the stuff that really counts) Aircraft spruce price isn't really that expensive - even if you include the shippin g. They estimated $130 shipping to Minneapolis area - hope that's close. That should leave me with about $400 or so worth in spar material (4 pieces at 12'-6" each). Put those together and that's about hoe much wood I've g ot into this thing in the fuse=2C tail=2C ply etc. - maybe a little more bu t not much. Thought about going to Youngblood lumber and getting some fir for spars but I just don't feel like taking another risk since my last one didn't turn out. Really=2C I got enough for (2) spars which is what I plan ned - the pieces are just not as "perfect" as I'd like. This isn't a slam on Mckormicks at all - It's just once I got the boards home and planed=2C i t uncovered some stuff I wansn't happy with. I could make it work but I'd rather just have the peace of mind of having those critical members be cert ified materials. Call me paranoid I guess. Anyway=2C if anyone is interested in following the 4 foot center constructi on let me know. I can keep posting pics and progress reports. I intend to support it with laminated spruce / ply / spruce cabanes which I just lamin ated not too long ago. Later=2C Tom B. -Fuse framed -End spinach framed -wing ribs completed -working on wing=2C center section and struts =0A 4 foot center section=0A http://cid-49bf7cf4860ada21.skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?page=browse&resi d=49BF7CF4860ADA21!149&type=5&Bpub=SDX.Photos&Bsrc=Photomail&authke y=E7ex1FbU7rA%24=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.