---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/10/11: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:41 AM - Re: Re: Re: V-Stab Fittings (Jack) 2. 06:53 AM - Re: KM Heide or Minnesota Corvair Engine? (TOM STINEMETZE) 3. 08:27 AM - MGL Electronic Tach (Gordon Bowen) 4. 08:54 AM - Re: Props and hub and progress (AircamperN11MS) 5. 09:25 AM - Re: Wilson Test (aerocarjake) 6. 09:40 AM - Re: A great deal on Barnstormers (Blue Sky) 7. 09:41 AM - Re: Wilson Test (Ozarkflyer) 8. 09:41 AM - Tach Cables (gboothe5@comcast.net) 9. 09:55 AM - Re: MGL Electronic Tach (Michael Groah) 10. 10:03 AM - Good read about Jeff Boatright (Jerry Dotson) 11. 10:16 AM - Re: Good read about Jeff Boatright (kevinpurtee) 12. 10:38 AM - Re: KM Heide or Minnesota Corvair Engine? (tdudley@umn.edu) 13. 11:36 AM - Re: Props and hub and progress (bender) 14. 11:46 AM - Re: Props and hub and progress (AircamperN11MS) 15. 11:55 AM - Re: Props and hub and progress (TOM STINEMETZE) 16. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: V-Stab Fittings (Charles Campbell) 17. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: V-Stab Fittings (Richard Schreiber) 18. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: V-Stab Fittings (Richard Schreiber) 19. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: V-Stab Fittings (Gboothe5) 20. 03:40 PM - Re: Re: V-Stab Fittings (shad bell) 21. 04:13 PM - Re: V-Stab Fittings (Jerry Dotson) 22. 05:03 PM - Re: Re: V-Stab Fittings (Jack Phillips) 23. 05:11 PM - Re: V-Stab Fittings (Ben Charvet) 24. 05:38 PM - Re: V-Stab Fittings (shad bell) 25. 06:08 PM - Re: Re: Wilson Test (Clif Dawson) 26. 06:40 PM - Re: Props and hub and progress (coxwelljon) 27. 06:46 PM - Re: V-Stab Fittings (Gene Rambo) 28. 07:48 PM - Re: V-Stab Fittings (tdudley@umn.edu) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:17 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Thanks Chris, you navigate your site better than I! Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:22 PM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720_10 4.JPG How about Don Emoch's http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG Tim Mickel's http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the ground it works here too http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Jack, Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was hoping one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings --> I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. jm -----Original Message----- From: Jack Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it acceptable to just use a thimble? Thanks, Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:44 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: KM Heide or Minnesota Corvair Engine? Mr. Dudley: Go to the Corvair Society of America (CORSA) website using the link below. Search the chapters for the one closest to you and use the info to make a couple of calls. That is how I found my core engine out here in middle America. http://www.corvair.org/csaindex.php Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS. >>> "tdudley@umn.edu" 3/9/2011 5:16 PM >>> I was wondering if you still have that source available for a Corvair engine or two that might be available. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:02 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: MGL Electronic Tach From: Gordon Bowen Group, My old Lyco 0-235 tach cable began to turn in the gear case drive, thus not turning the tach. Because it was a non-standard length Spruce wanted a small fortune for a new tach inter-cable. Two points, flying without a tach working properly, is darn hard. I did not realize how dependent I had become on looking down at the tach while setting up for a landings. It's naturally possible to do, establish a 60 kt, 500 ft'/min glide, but a heck a lot easier with a tach. Second point, I'm gonna install a MGL Velocity RPM tach from Air Spruce. This tach picks up the signal from the P lead on the mag. Question, anyone out there had any experience with this instrument? If so, anything second thoughts or suggestions to keep from frying it, etc.? The installation stuff suggests a 10K ohm resistor between the P lead and the Tach feed, has this proven enough? Thanks Gordon Bowen Anthem AZ Quasi-Piete N-1033B 694 hrs and counting ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Props and hub and progress From: "AircamperN11MS" Jon, I did the first flight and the first 40 hours in a Ragwing Special that a friend of mine built. I was very surprised at how much it flew like the Piet. It is very roomy inside too. It likes 3 point take offs and landings. Wheel landings are useless and raising the tail on take off was a waste of time and used twice as much runway. He had a 440 cc Kawasaki in it first. It broke a crank at 8 hours and the landing was uneventful. He then put in a 55 HP Hirth. It was a better choice of engines and ran smoother. I got the owner current in the front seat of my Piet and then turned him loose in his Ragwing. It was a good transition for him and he has had no problems. It is a very fun airplane to own and fly. I give it a 9 out of 10. The Piet is a 10 out of 10. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333458#333458 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wilson Test From: "aerocarjake" I'd like to give everyone who participated in this topic a hand... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333460#333460 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:29 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A great deal on Barnstormers From: "Blue Sky" Bill Church wrote: > Looks like a great opportunity for someone. > > Bill C. Bill C. and group, I want to thank you guy's for the information you share. I have purchased this project. This is the early steps of a lifelong(well 40 years of it anyways!) dream. To cruise above this fabulous planet low and slow. I have survived a great career as a mountain guide working in the highest elevation production heli skiing in the world, in the Himalayas. Now I look forward to tinkering on my own machine, choosing only the weather I like and coming home when I want! I have a ton of questions but will restrain myself and slowly research the easy ones and turn to you guys when needed. Thanks again, Lyle Fast -------- My passion for the landscape has lead me to the sky. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333461#333461 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:13 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wilson Test From: "Ozarkflyer" Clif Gahan Wilson was the only reason I subscribed to Playboy. [Rolling Eyes] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333462#333462 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:51 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tach Cables From: gboothe5@comcast.net Gordon, Not a direct answer to your question, but have you checked out local automotive shops who build tach and speedo cables? Gary Boothe Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:00 AM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: MGL Electronic Tach Well, I have one of these tachs but I only have 2.7 hours of ground run time on it and I'm using a tooth counter instead of a p lead signal. It has been working fine for me thus far but my installation is different than yours. Mike Groah Tulare CA ________________________________ From: Gordon Bowen Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 8:20:19 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: MGL Electronic Tach Group, My old Lyco 0-235 tach cable began to turn in the gear case drive, thus not turning the tach. Because it was a non-standard length Spruce wanted a small fortune for a new tach inter-cable. Two points, flying without a tach working properly, is darn hard. I did not realize how dependent I had become on looking down at the tach while setting up for a landings. It's naturally possible to do, establish a 60 kt, 500 ft'/min glide, but a heck a lot easier with a tach. Second point, I'm gonna install a MGL Velocity RPM tach from Air Spruce. This tach picks up the signal from the P lead on the mag. Question, anyone out there had any experience with this instrument? If so, anything second thoughts or suggestions to keep from frying it, etc.? The installation stuff suggests a 10K ohm resistor between the P lead and the Tach feed, has this proven enough? Thanks Gordon Bowen Anthem AZ Quasi-Piete N-1033B 694 hrs and counting ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Good read about Jeff Boatright From: "Jerry Dotson" I just happened upon Emory's web site and found a great read about Jeff. He is doing some great work and is taking on more. Jeff be careful to leave time to fly the Pietenpol. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333465#333465 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:16:08 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Good read about Jeff Boatright From: "kevinpurtee" Wow! That's cool! do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333466#333466 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:50 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: KM Heide or Minnesota Corvair Engine? From: "tdudley@umn.edu" Thanks to all for the responses. Ken, I'll give you a call in the next day or two if that'd be okay. Now that the snow is starting to thaw (at least a little anyway), we'll have to plan a visit so I can see your build. I'll also check the Corsa website for a local chapter. Kind of interested also in the Georgia Corvair engine given that if I used that nearly every part of my plane would have come out of Georgia (my orders are delivered from the Peach Tree City, GA Aircraft Spruce). If I haven't any luck between now and Brodhead, I can follow Ryan's lead on my first trip there this July (I can hardly wait for that trip!). Again, thanks to all. Tom Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333467#333467 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:36:57 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Props and hub and progress From: "bender" i bought the plans years ago... simple plane to build and fly.. nice to hear the piet fly like the special i actually think a change in the airfoil on the special would be a good idea.. it has the airfoil used on the later pitts...not flat on the bottom.... and its not that great for the special speeds. lots of guys had to change the angle of incidence i added about 2 degrees to both wings if i remember correctly to get it to fly more level i actually soloed in that plane... it was way easy to land i may build another some day.. and maybe with a clark Y and a VW jeff faith Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333468#333468 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Props and hub and progress From: "AircamperN11MS" We considered the VW but we were flying it as an ultralight and didn't want to add the weight. As it was, it was already heavy. It is now in the experimental category since the light sport rules. I think this link will show you the plane. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eaa49.av.org/gifs/lapin01.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.eaa49.av.org/gifs/lapinsky.htm&usg=__hjyNAxNsmb1kWGSi2chvVK7m3Tg=&h=338&w=432&sz=74&hl=en&start=2&zoom=1&tbnid=7yN2vcCllpHOqM:&tbnh=99&tbnw=126&ei=gSl5TaqXLYGosAOqqoSGAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DScott%2BLiefeld%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D832%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1 -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333469#333469 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:14 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Props and hub and progress Might not be a Piet but it sure is cute anyway. Stinemetze >>> "AircamperN11MS" 3/10/2011 1:44 PM >>> Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:27 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720_10 > 4.JPG > > How about Don Emoch's > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > Tim Mickel's > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > ground > it works here too > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > Chris > Sacramento, Ca > Westcoastpiet.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > Jack, > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > hoping > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > Jack > DSM > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > --> > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > jm > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jack > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > Thanks, > > Jack > > DSM > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:15:10 PM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Chuck, For a qick reply..... I did the same thing as Don and others have done. The spring is from John Deere and I think its from a 1929 rake. I have the part number and will look it up. I got mine from our local JD supplier and i think it was about $19 a couple of years ago. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN > [Original Message] > From: Charles Campbell > To: > Date: 3/10/2011 4:56:47 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel > arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that > same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what > spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720_10 > > 4.JPG > > > > How about Don Emoch's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > > > Tim Mickel's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > > ground > > it works here too > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > > > Chris > > Sacramento, Ca > > Westcoastpiet.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Jack, > > > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > > hoping > > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > > > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > > Jack > > DSM > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > --> > > > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > > > jm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jack > > > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > > > DSM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:21:19 PM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Chuck: Here is the John Deere part number for the spring T 143444. If you are going this route with the A frame support, make sure you add the cross brace for torque resistance. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN > [Original Message] > From: Charles Campbell > To: > Date: 3/10/2011 4:56:47 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel > arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that > same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what > spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720_10 > > 4.JPG > > > > How about Don Emoch's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > > > Tim Mickel's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > > ground > > it works here too > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > > > Chris > > Sacramento, Ca > > Westcoastpiet.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Jack, > > > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > > hoping > > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > > > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > > Jack > > DSM > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > --> > > > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > > > jm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jack > > > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > > > DSM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:29 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings ...also, long fuselage will require a longer A-frame. Gary Boothe -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Schreiber Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Chuck: Here is the John Deere part number for the spring T 143444. If you are going this route with the A frame support, make sure you add the cross brace for torque resistance. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN > [Original Message] > From: Charles Campbell > To: > Date: 3/10/2011 4:56:47 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel > arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that > same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what > spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720_10 > > 4.JPG > > > > How about Don Emoch's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > > > Tim Mickel's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > > ground > > it works here too > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > > > Chris > > Sacramento, Ca > > Westcoastpiet.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Jack, > > > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > > hoping > > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > > > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > > Jack > > DSM > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > --> > > > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > > > jm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jack > > > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > > > DSM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:47 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings I think dad said he got his t/w spring at the hardware store, I believe he said it was for a porch swing? - Shad --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Charles Campbell wrote: From: Charles Campbell Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings ream.net> I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel arrangement according to the plans.- Anyone else out there who used that same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what spring is used and where I can get one.- Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720 _10 > 4.JPG > > How about Don Emoch's > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > Tim Mickel's > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > ground > it works here too > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > Chris > Sacramento, Ca > Westcoastpiet.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > Jack, > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > hoping > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > Jack > DSM > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markl e > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject:- Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > --> > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > jm > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jack > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > Thanks, > > Jack > > DSM > > > le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:10 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: V-Stab Fittings From: "Jerry Dotson" My spring is about 2/3 of a dirt bike rear coil spring. I cut it off and ground the end smooth. Works for me. Price was right. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333492#333492 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:41 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings I did it and used a spring from McMaster-Carr. Don't remember the part number, but you can order it online fromtheir website. Just figure out what size you need to get close to the plans. Others have used springs from John Deere. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720_10 > 4.JPG > > How about Don Emoch's > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > Tim Mickel's > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > ground > it works here too > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > Chris > Sacramento, Ca > Westcoastpiet.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > Jack, > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > hoping > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > Jack > DSM > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > --> > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > jm > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jack > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > Thanks, > > Jack > > DSM > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:08 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings From: Ben Charvet I used the porch swing spring initially but found it too weak. It would bot tom out on a not so gentle landing. I ended up buying one from Mcmaster-Car r. I think I got the part number from the archives Ben Charvet Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:38 PM, shad bell wrote: > I think dad said he got his t/w spring at the hardware store, I believe he said it was for a porch swing? > > Shad > > --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Charles Campbell wrote: > > From: Charles Campbell > Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 5:30 PM > tream.net> > > I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel > arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that > same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what > spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__2007072 0_10 > > 4.JPG > > > > How about Don Emoch's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > > > Tim Mickel's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > > ground > > it works here too > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > > > Chris > > Sacramento, Ca > > Westcoastpiet.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Jack, > > > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > > hoping > > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > > > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > > Jack > > DSM > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Mark le > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > --> > > > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them .. > > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > > > jm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jack > > > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > > > DSM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========================h ttp://forums.sp; - List Contribution Web S -Matt D ralle, Listm/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribu tion > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:41 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Yea, it is a little bouncy, but that keeps me honest, can't hide the bad la ndings from myself.- I have had it bottom out once while pulling off pave ment into the grass for a run-up, scared me enough to get out and look it o ver. - Shad --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Ben Charvet wrote: From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings I used the porch swing spring initially but found it too weak. -It would bottom out on a not so gentle landing. -I ended up buying one from Mcmast er-Carr. -I think I got the part number from the archives Ben Charvet Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:38 PM, shad bell wrote: I think dad said he got his t/w spring at the hardware store, I believe he said it was for a porch swing? - Shad --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Charles Campbell wrote: From: Charles Campbell Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings ream.net> I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel arrangement according to the plans.- Anyone else out there who used that same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what spring is used and where I can get one.- Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720 _10 > 4.JPG > > How about Don Emoch's > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > Tim Mickel's > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > ground > it works here too > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > Chris > Sacramento, Ca > Westcoastpiet.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > Jack, > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > hoping > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > Jack > DSM > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markl e > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject:- Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > --> > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > jm > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jack > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > Thanks, > > Jack > > DSM > > >========================ht tp://forums.sp; - - - - ---- List Contribution Web S - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, Listm/contribution" target=_blank>h ttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ========= >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========= ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ========= http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n ========= =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:08:17 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wilson Test Yeah me too! > > Clif > > Gahan Wilson was the only reason I subscribed to Playboy. [Rolling Eyes] ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Props and hub and progress From: "coxwelljon" Thanks for the information, That is a nice looking little bird. I used to follow a ragwing forum but it got too nasty, and too much misinformation. That is what I like about this group. Much more professional. -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333503#333503 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:49 PM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings I also got my spring from John Deere=2C $19 as advertised. I was talking with someone on here (Douwe) who shall go unnamed (Douwe) and was chastised for beating the lawyer thing to death (Douwe). I promised t o change over to progress reports. Since someone on here just published th e number of days until Brodhead (damn you) the pressure is now on. NOW I a m going to make everyone wish I was back on the legal profession. I am going to fly my airplane to Brodhead or die trying (not in the flight =2C but in the hangar). As it stands with=2C what=2C 138 days to go=2C her e is where I stand: Wing is covered and 2/3 of ribs are stitched before it got too cold in the hangar. Need to finish stitching=2C put on all tapes=2C and paint. All ta pes and paint (dope) on hand. All tail surfaces and ailerons are covered and stitched. Need to put on al l tapes and paint. All tape and paint (dope) on hand. Fuselage is ready to cover=2C but with a million small projects to finish w hich can all be done after cover=2C such as: seat cushions=2C coaming paddi ng=2C windshields=2C finish tailskid=2C fuel lines=2C etc. Engine=2C magneto=2C and carburetor are overhauled. Million small projects to finish on engine=2C though=2C such as: external oil lines=2C water line s to radiator=2C valve chamber cover (material on hand) spark plug wires (m aterial on hand)=2C exhaust pipes (material on hand)=2C carb heat muff=2C e tc. Cloudcars scimitar prop is ready to go. It's real=2C and it is magnificent !! (to quote a line from Seinfeld) Yesterday I made cardboard patterns for all cockpit sheet metal=2C cut it o ut of aluminum=2C slip rolled it to shape=2C and ran a double bead along th e bottom on the sides. Needs final trimming and holes cut for roll wires a nd fuel line. I also tack-welded the fuel tank (a friend who can heliarc d id). Once it is test fit=2C it can be finish welded and painted. Engione cowling cannot be made until the engine is mounted. I made the coc kpit metal in a day=2C I think I can the engine cowl in not too much longer .. I will take any and all criticism=2C encouragement=2C and assistance I can get in the upcoming months. Gene Rambo NX898H > From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > Date: Thu=2C 10 Mar 2011 19:59:58 -0500 > .net> > > I did it and used a spring from McMaster-Carr. Don't remember the part > number=2C but you can order it online fromtheir website. Just figure out what > size you need to get close to the plans. Others have used springs from Jo hn > Deere. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh=2C NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles > Campbell > Sent: Thursday=2C March 10=2C 2011 5:31 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel > arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that > same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what > spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Wednesday=2C March 09=2C 2011 9:22 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720 _10 > > 4.JPG > > > > How about Don Emoch's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > > > Tim Mickel's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > > > And for you corvair guys=2C don't worry while your gliding back to the > > ground > > it works here too > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > > > Chris > > Sacramento=2C Ca > > Westcoastpiet.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe 5 > > Sent: Wednesday=2C March 09=2C 2011 5:39 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Jack=2C > > > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > > hoping > > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > > > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > > Sent: Wednesday=2C March 09=2C 2011 4:56 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim=2C hope it's ok! > > Jack > > DSM > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Mar kle > > Sent: Wednesday=2C March 09=2C 2011 12:57 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > --> > > > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes=2C this is how I'm doing t hem. > > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > > > jm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jack > > > > Sent: Mar 9=2C 2011 12:21 PM > > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket=2C is it > > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > > > Thanks=2C > > > > Jack > > > > DSM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: V-Stab Fittings From: "tdudley@umn.edu" Gene, Thanks for the update on your plane's progress. Sounds like a lot to accomplish before Broadhead, but I sure hope you can get it done. I started my project a few months before you posted the pictures of your uncovered plane last fall. Beautiful. One of those pics is the desktop for all the computers I own and is good inspiration. It'd be great to see it done. Good luck. Tom (one of those doctors that does cut off arms but ALWAYS double-checks first!) 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