---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/11/11: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:28 AM - Re: Re: V-Stab Fittings (Jack) 2. 04:22 AM - Looking like a plane (Dangerous Dave) 3. 04:25 AM - Re: Looking like a plane (Dangerous Dave) 4. 04:54 AM - Re: V-Stab Fittings (Charles Campbell) 5. 05:37 AM - Re: MGL Electronic Tach (Ben Charvet) 6. 06:26 AM - Re: Looking like a plane (Jerry Dotson) 7. 06:29 AM - Re: Looking like a plane (Dangerous Dave) 8. 06:50 AM - Gene's progress and mine (Douwe Blumberg) 9. 07:03 AM - Re: V-Stab Fittings (Jack Phillips) 10. 07:44 AM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (Jack Phillips) 11. 08:27 AM - LeBlond 60 hp radial for sale (Ken Chambers) 12. 09:25 AM - Douwe and Gene's Home Stretch in Accomplishing the Big Kielbasa ! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 13. 09:37 AM - Re: Douwe and Gene's Home Stretch in Accomplishing the Big Kielbasa ! (Ryan Mueller) 14. 09:38 AM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (Michael Perez) 15. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: Gene's progress and mine (Jack) 16. 10:57 AM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (kevinpurtee) 17. 12:51 PM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (Bill Church) 18. 01:01 PM - Re: Re: Gene's progress and mine (Scott Knowlton) 19. 01:14 PM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (Bill Church) 20. 04:38 PM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (airlion) 21. 05:23 PM - Gene's and Douwe's progress (helspersew@aol.com) 22. 05:24 PM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (gboothe5@comcast.net) 23. 05:57 PM - Ford A engine mount springs (Brett Phillips) 24. 06:10 PM - Re: Ford A engine mount springs (Brett Phillips) 25. 06:23 PM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (K5YAC) 26. 06:26 PM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (Jack Phillips) 27. 06:37 PM - Re: Gene's and Douwe's progress (Jack Phillips) 28. 07:06 PM - Friday's list (Lawrence Williams) 29. 07:54 PM - SnF (Dick N) 30. 08:24 PM - Re: SnF (Gene Rambo) 31. 08:59 PM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (kevinpurtee) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:13 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Gene, great progress! My best guess is over 500 days to go :-(. I am trying to work on the Gal daily. Jack DSM Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:45 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings I also got my spring from John Deere, $19 as advertised. I was talking with someone on here (Douwe) who shall go unnamed (Douwe) and was chastised for beating the lawyer thing to death (Douwe). I promised to change over to progress reports. Since someone on here just published the number of days until Brodhead (damn you) the pressure is now on. NOW I am going to make everyone wish I was back on the legal profession. I am going to fly my airplane to Brodhead or die trying (not in the flight, but in the hangar). As it stands with, what, 138 days to go, here is where I stand: Wing is covered and 2/3 of ribs are stitched before it got too cold in the hangar. Need to finish stitching, put on all tapes, and paint. All tapes and paint (dope) on hand. All tail surfaces and ailerons are covered and stitched. Need to put on all tapes and paint. All tape and paint (dope) on hand. Fuselage is ready to cover, but with a million small projects to finish which can all be done after cover, such as: seat cushions, coaming padding, windshields, finish tailskid, fuel lines, etc. Engine, magneto, and carburetor are overhauled. Million small projects to finish on engine, though, such as: external oil lines, water lines to radiator, valve chamber cover (material on hand) spark plug wires (material on hand), exhaust pipes (material on hand), carb heat muff, etc. Cloudcars scimitar prop is ready to go. It's real, and it is magnificent!! (to quote a line from Seinfeld) Yesterday I made cardboard patterns for all cockpit sheet metal, cut it out of aluminum, slip rolled it to shape, and ran a double bead along the bottom on the sides. Needs final trimming and holes cut for roll wires and fuel line. I also tack-welded the fuel tank (a friend who can heliarc did). Once it is test fit, it can be finish welded and painted. Engione cowling cannot be made until the engine is mounted. I made the cockpit metal in a day, I think I can the engine cowl in not too much longer. I will take any and all criticism, encouragement, and assistance I can get in the upcoming months. Gene Rambo NX898H > From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:59:58 -0500 > > > I did it and used a spring from McMaster-Carr. Don't remember the part > number, but you can order it online fromtheir website. Just figure out what > size you need to get close to the plans. Others have used springs from John > Deere. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles > Campbell > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:31 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel > arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that > same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what > spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720_10 > > 4.JPG > > > > How about Don Emoch's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > > > Tim Mickel's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > > ground > > it works here too > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > > > Chris > > Sacramento, Ca > > Westcoastpiet.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Jack, > > > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > > hoping > > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > > > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > > Jack > > DSM > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > --> > > > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > > > jm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jack > > > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > > > DSM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================= > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Looking like a plane From: "Dangerous Dave" Howdy,down to the engine mount and cowling,dave -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333520#333520 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2011_03_10_18_25_32_347_123.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking like a plane From: "Dangerous Dave" sorry heres a resized one -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333521#333521 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2011_03_10_18_25_32_347__copy_958.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:36 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Wish I were that far along. I won't make it this year -- hope to live to see 2012 in good enough health to fly to Brodhead. Chuck Do not archive! ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings I also got my spring from John Deere, $19 as advertised. I was talking with someone on here (Douwe) who shall go unnamed (Douwe) and was chastised for beating the lawyer thing to death (Douwe). I promised to change over to progress reports. Since someone on here just published the number of days until Brodhead (damn you) the pressure is now on. NOW I am going to make everyone wish I was back on the legal profession. I am going to fly my airplane to Brodhead or die trying (not in the flight, but in the hangar). As it stands with, what, 138 days to go, here is where I stand: Wing is covered and 2/3 of ribs are stitched before it got too cold in the hangar. Need to finish stitching, put on all tapes, and paint. All tapes and paint (dope) on hand. All tail surfaces and ailerons are covered and stitched. Need to put on all tapes and paint. All tape and paint (dope) on hand. Fuselage is ready to cover, but with a million small projects to finish which can all be done after cover, such as: seat cushions, coaming padding, windshields, finish tailskid, fuel lines, etc. Engine, magneto, and carburetor are overhauled. Million small projects to finish on engine, though, such as: external oil lines, water lines to radiator, valve chamber cover (material on hand) spark plug wires (material on hand), exhaust pipes (material on hand), carb heat muff, etc. Cloudcars scimitar prop is ready to go. It's real, and it is magnificent!! (to quote a line from Seinfeld) Yesterday I made cardboard patterns for all cockpit sheet metal, cut it out of aluminum, slip rolled it to shape, and ran a double bead along the bottom on the sides. Needs final trimming and holes cut for roll wires and fuel line. I also tack-welded the fuel tank (a friend who can heliarc did). Once it is test fit, it can be finish welded and painted. Engione cowling cannot be made until the engine is mounted. I made the cockpit metal in a day, I think I can the engine cowl in not too much longer. I will take any and all criticism, encouragement, and assistance I can get in the upcoming months. Gene Rambo NX898H > From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:59:58 -0500 > > > I did it and used a spring from McMaster-Carr. Don't remember the part > number, but you can order it online fromtheir website. Just figure out what > size you need to get close to the plans. Others have used springs from John > Deere. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles > Campbell > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:31 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel > arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that > same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what > spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720 _10 > > 4.JPG > > > > How about Don Emoch's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > > > Tim Mickel's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > > ground > > it works here too > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > > > Chris > > Sacramento, Ca > > Westcoastpiet.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Jack, > > > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > > hoping > > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > > > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > > Jack > > DSM > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > --> > > > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > > > jm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jack > > > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > > > DSM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========================> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:20 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: MGL Electronic Tach I looked at that setup when I figured out how long the tach cable needed to be for a Pietenpol. It was still cheaper to just special order the cable than to go with a whole new setup, and the mechanical tach doesn't require any electricity or have the possibility of opening up your p-lead circuit. I lost the tach in flight on my old Baby Ace once, and it really is a lot harder to fly without it. Ben Charvet On 3/10/2011 11:20 AM, Gordon Bowen wrote: > Group, > My old Lyco 0-235 tach cable began to turn in the gear case drive, > thus not turning the tach. Because it was a non-standard length Spruce > wanted a small fortune for a new tach inter-cable. Two points, flying > without a tach working properly, is darn hard. I did not realize how > dependent I had become on looking down at the tach while setting up > for a landings. It's naturally possible to do, establish a 60 kt, 500 > ft'/min glide, but a heck a lot easier with a tach. Second point, I'm > gonna install a MGL Velocity RPM tach from Air Spruce. This tach > picks up the signal from the P lead on the mag. Question, anyone out > there had any experience with this instrument? If so, anything second > thoughts or suggestions to keep from frying it, etc.? The > installation stuff suggests a 10K ohm resistor between the P lead and > the Tach feed, has this proven enough? > Thanks > Gordon Bowen > Anthem AZ > Quasi-Piete N-1033B > 694 hrs and counting > * > > > * -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:48 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking like a plane From: "Jerry Dotson" Looking good man. What engine are you going to use? -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333528#333528 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:13 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking like a plane From: "Dangerous Dave" using a lycoming O 235 125hp -------- Covering Piet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333529#333529 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:21 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Gene, love reading about your progress, I feel the same way right now about the millions of details before she's finished. I, for one, am just trying to "touch the project every day" without thinking about Brodhead too much. I too have used your "barebones" photo (not you, your plane) for my screensaver and am completely confident she'll be a magnificent flying machine, especially with that paint job someone (Dan Helsper) stole from you (just kidding Dan!) If you make it this year, great, if next year. great also, plus you'll have more time to work any bugs out before a big cross country. I have been working away on the new engine installation. It's surprising what a big deal a changeover is, especially as this new one will have a small electrical system. New engine controls and instruments to mount in what I intended to be a super clean and simple cockpit, so I'm trying to find places to "hide" things yet keeping them handy. The engine is off being rebuilt and converted from an 0200 to a C90 while I do the wiring and plumbing. The new cowling is about 75% done. Installing cool louvers, sanding, etc, etc, etc. New gear is pretty much finished. Am using 28X3 smooth clinchers with covered wheels. Just mounted them and they look pretty darn sweet. So, gotta finish all that, varnish new holes, secure all new additions, paint little brackets etc and then cover the fuse and empennage. Oh yeah, and finish enlarging my wing tank to accommodate the thirstier new engine (the jobs really never do seem to end) ALL YOU BUILDERS OUT THERE, KEEP AT IT, TRY TO TOUCH IT EVERY DAY, LOOK AT THE PROJECT AS A BUNCH OF LITTLE PROJECTS AND ENJOY COMPLETING EACH ONE. DON'T WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT DEADLINES, JUST KEEP BUILDING AND DON'T STOP AND ONE DAY SHE'LL BE DONE AND YOUR "TO DO" LIST WILL BE COMPLETELY CHECKED OFF. Douwe ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:46 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings Gene, I can probably come up sometime in the last week or two of April to help with whatever task you are on at the time. All it will take is another ride in the TravelAir. I have a vested interest in having you fly it to Brodhead this summer because I told Karen that I would fly mine with you in formation whenever you fly it up for the first time. Otherwise, she is expecting me to take the RV-4 to Brodhead and Oshkosh (it costs about half as much to fly the RV-4 to Brodhead as it does to fly the Pietenpol). There is another Virginia Pietenpol nearing completion up near Lexington. I haven't heard much from Matt Paxton lately, but he's got to be getting close to making his first flight. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:45 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings I also got my spring from John Deere, $19 as advertised. I was talking with someone on here (Douwe) who shall go unnamed (Douwe) and was chastised for beating the lawyer thing to death (Douwe). I promised to change over to progress reports. Since someone on here just published the number of days until Brodhead (damn you) the pressure is now on. NOW I am going to make everyone wish I was back on the legal profession. I am going to fly my airplane to Brodhead or die trying (not in the flight, but in the hangar). As it stands with, what, 138 days to go, here is where I stand: Wing is covered and 2/3 of ribs are stitched before it got too cold in the hangar. Need to finish stitching, put on all tapes, and paint. All tapes and paint (dope) on hand. All tail surfaces and ailerons are covered and stitched. Need to put on all tapes and paint. All tape and paint (dope) on hand. Fuselage is ready to cover, but with a million small projects to finish which can all be done after cover, such as: seat cushions, coaming padding, windshields, finish tailskid, fuel lines, etc. Engine, magneto, and carburetor are overhauled. Million small projects to finish on engine, though, such as: external oil lines, water lines to radiator, valve chamber cover (material on hand) spark plug wires (material on hand), exhaust pipes (material on hand), carb heat muff, etc. Cloudcars scimitar prop is ready to go. It's real, and it is magnificent!! (to quote a line from Seinfeld) Yesterday I made cardboard patterns for all cockpit sheet metal, cut it out of aluminum, slip rolled it to shape, and ran a double bead along the bottom on the sides. Needs final trimming and holes cut for roll wires and fuel line. I also tack-welded the fuel tank (a friend who can heliarc did). Once it is test fit, it can be finish welded and painted. Engione cowling cannot be made until the engine is mounted. I made the cockpit metal in a day, I think I can the engine cowl in not too much longer. I will take any and all criticism, encouragement, and assistance I can get in the upcoming months. Gene Rambo NX898H > From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:59:58 -0500 > > > I did it and used a spring from McMaster-Carr. Don't remember the part > number, but you can order it online fromtheir website. Just figure out what > size you need to get close to the plans. Others have used springs from John > Deere. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles > Campbell > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:31 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > I just noticed in Chris' post that Don Emoch's Piet uses the tailwheel > arrangement according to the plans. Anyone else out there who used that > same arrangement (Tailwheel fork with a coil spring) I need to know what > spring is used and where I can get one. Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:22 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Is Frank Pavliga's plane high enough time for you? > > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/images/Brodhead__20070720_10 > > 4.JPG > > > > How about Don Emoch's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_152.JPG > > > > Tim Mickel's > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/IMG_3926.JPG > > > > And for you corvair guys, don't worry while your gliding back to the > > ground > > it works here too > > > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Brown%20Aero/images/p1010002.jpg > > > > > > I think it will be fine and I am doing mine this way too. > > > > Chris > > Sacramento, Ca > > Westcoastpiet.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5 > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:39 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Jack, > > > > Mines the same way. I did not respond as it isn't flight tested...was > > hoping > > one of those hi-time Piet pilots would answer you... > > > > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:56 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > > > Looks like it's just you and me Jim, hope it's ok! > > Jack > > DSM > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:57 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > --> > > > > I sure hope everyone's answer to this is yes, this is how I'm doing them. > > Deburring/chamfering the holes a bit first of course. > > > > jm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jack > > > > Sent: Mar 9, 2011 12:21 PM > > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: V-Stab Fittings > > > > When you attach the 2 tail brace cables to the top v-stab bracket, is it > > acceptable to just use a thimble? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > > > DSM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================= > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:44:25 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Douwe, just a word of appreciation and congratulations on your project. I know what you've had to go through, better than most. When I had a forced landing in my Pietenpol just a few weeks after its first flight and was faced with 8 months of repairs before flying it again I almost sold the pile of scrap and gave up. Building the Pietenpol was fun, rebuilding it was no fun at all, and a lot of unpleasant work. You never even got to fly your airplane (I had nearly 7 hours on mine when I tore it up), so you don't even know what it feels like to fly something you built yourself. Keep at it - you're almost there. And you will be prouder than ever of the results. You have demonstrated just what kind of drive and determination you possess. And you should be very proud. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Gene, love reading about your progress, I feel the same way right now about the millions of details before she's finished. I, for one, am just trying to "touch the project every day" without thinking about Brodhead too much. I too have used your "barebones" photo (not you, your plane) for my screensaver and am completely confident she'll be a magnificent flying machine, especially with that paint job someone (Dan Helsper) stole from you (just kidding Dan!) If you make it this year, great, if next year. great also, plus you'll have more time to work any bugs out before a big cross country. I have been working away on the new engine installation. It's surprising what a big deal a changeover is, especially as this new one will have a small electrical system. New engine controls and instruments to mount in what I intended to be a super clean and simple cockpit, so I'm trying to find places to "hide" things yet keeping them handy. The engine is off being rebuilt and converted from an 0200 to a C90 while I do the wiring and plumbing. The new cowling is about 75% done. Installing cool louvers, sanding, etc, etc, etc. New gear is pretty much finished. Am using 28X3 smooth clinchers with covered wheels. Just mounted them and they look pretty darn sweet. So, gotta finish all that, varnish new holes, secure all new additions, paint little brackets etc and then cover the fuse and empennage. Oh yeah, and finish enlarging my wing tank to accommodate the thirstier new engine (the jobs really never do seem to end) ALL YOU BUILDERS OUT THERE, KEEP AT IT, TRY TO TOUCH IT EVERY DAY, LOOK AT THE PROJECT AS A BUNCH OF LITTLE PROJECTS AND ENJOY COMPLETING EACH ONE. DON'T WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT DEADLINES, JUST KEEP BUILDING AND DON'T STOP AND ONE DAY SHE'LL BE DONE AND YOUR "TO DO" LIST WILL BE COMPLETELY CHECKED OFF. Douwe ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: LeBlond 60 hp radial for sale From: Ken Chambers http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1204148.html Might make a good Piet engine ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:19 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Douwe and Gene's Home Stretch in Accomplishing the Big Kielbasa ! It really is GREAT to read of how close we are to having TWO BRAND NEW Piet epols so close to coming off the assembly line in reading the progress reports of Douwe and Gene Rambo's progress. I recall the excitement last year and chatter that spread like WILDFIRE amo ng the Saturday crowd on that sunny Saturday last year at Brodhead when we heard Dan Helsper's sweet-sounding Ford A engine coming toward the field from the east and then seeing his gorgeous yellow and black Pietenpol fly overhead was enough to give you the chills ! For all of those late nights alone, cut fingers, hot metal pieces that burn ed your hands....for all of that T-88 that got in your hair, on your shirts and jeans...for all of the coughing you did after sanding a piece of wood to make it fit just r ight or look so nice....for all of those little details that you agonized o ver but slowly fell into place with perseverance, willpower, and discipline......and mostl y for the PASSIONATE attitude you have to have to FINISH one of these plans -built homebuilts I commend you with the utmost regard and respect for keeping wit h it year after year after year and NOT giving up. NOT saying screw it. For NOT letting those depressing events and failures along the way keep you from fi nishing it or putting it up for sale on Barnstormers for there is only ONE thing BETTER than building and finishing your Pietenpol and that is flying it and flying it to BRODHEAD is one of the cr=E8me de la cr=E8me of life's experiences and blessings. Like John Hofmann says about the lines in The Great Waldo Pepper: there is a line in that movie for every facet of life and in this case I'm going to quote the CAA Inspector Newt talking with Axel and Waldo the night before the filming of the big dogfight movie scene "I don't know about you guys, but I woul dn't miss it for the world." [cid:image001.jpg@01CBDFE6.F1E54E00] ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Douwe and Gene's Home Stretch in Accomplishing the Big Kielbasa ! From: Ryan Mueller I wish the video had come out better, but it's still pretty cool! A special day indeed. :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHheb54LX9s Hey NEWT! Ryan On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] wrote: > > > It really is GREAT to read of how close we are to having TWO BRAND NEW > Pietepols so close to coming off the assembly line in reading the progres s > > reports of Douwe and Gene Rambo=92s progress. > > > I recall the excitement last year and chatter that spread like WILDFIRE > among the Saturday crowd on that sunny Saturday last year at Brodhead whe n > we heard > > Dan Helsper=92s sweet-sounding Ford A engine coming toward the field from the > east and then seeing his gorgeous yellow and black Pietenpol fly overhead > was > > enough to give you the chills ! > > > For all of those late nights alone, cut fingers, hot metal pieces that > burned your hands=85.for all of that T-88 that got in your hair, on your > shirts and jeans=85for all > > of the coughing you did after sanding a piece of wood to make it fit just > right or look so nice=85.for all of those little details that you agonize d > over but slowly > > fell into place with perseverance, willpower, and discipline=85=85and mos tly > for the PASSIONATE attitude you have to have to FINISH one of these > plans-built > > homebuilts I commend you with the utmost regard and respect for keeping > with it year after year after year and NOT giving up. NOT saying screw > it. For NOT > > letting those depressing events and failures along the way keep you from > finishing it or putting it up for sale on Barnstormers for there is only ONE > thing BETTER > > than building and finishing your Pietenpol and that is flying it and flyi ng > it to BRODHEAD is one of the cr=E8me de la cr=E8me of life=92s experienc es and > blessings. > > > Like John Hofmann says about the lines in The Great Waldo Pepper: there is > a line in that movie for every facet of life and in this case I=92m going to > quote the > > CAA Inspector Newt talking with Axel and Waldo the night before the filmi ng > of the big dogfight movie scene =93I don=92t know about you guys, but I > wouldn=92t miss it > > for the world.=94 > > > [image: http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsL/10294-7690.jpg] > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:02 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine What is involved with converting an O-200 to a C-90 and why would you elect to do so? Sounds interesting. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com The engine is off being rebuilt and converted from an 0200 to a C90 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:16:04 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine What Jack and Mike said! Couldn't do any better. Jack DSM Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Douwe, just a word of appreciation and congratulations on your project. I know what you've had to go through, better than most. When I had a forced landing in my Pietenpol just a few weeks after its first flight and was faced with 8 months of repairs before flying it again I almost sold the pile of scrap and gave up. Building the Pietenpol was fun, rebuilding it was no fun at all, and a lot of unpleasant work. You never even got to fly your airplane (I had nearly 7 hours on mine when I tore it up), so you don't even know what it feels like to fly something you built yourself. Keep at it - you're almost there. And you will be prouder than ever of the results. You have demonstrated just what kind of drive and determination you possess. And you should be very proud. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Gene, love reading about your progress, I feel the same way right now about the millions of details before she's finished. I, for one, am just trying to "touch the project every day" without thinking about Brodhead too much. I too have used your "barebones" photo (not you, your plane) for my screensaver and am completely confident she'll be a magnificent flying machine, especially with that paint job someone (Dan Helsper) stole from you (just kidding Dan!) If you make it this year, great, if next year. great also, plus you'll have more time to work any bugs out before a big cross country. I have been working away on the new engine installation. It's surprising what a big deal a changeover is, especially as this new one will have a small electrical system. New engine controls and instruments to mount in what I intended to be a super clean and simple cockpit, so I'm trying to find places to "hide" things yet keeping them handy. The engine is off being rebuilt and converted from an 0200 to a C90 while I do the wiring and plumbing. The new cowling is about 75% done. Installing cool louvers, sanding, etc, etc, etc. New gear is pretty much finished. Am using 28X3 smooth clinchers with covered wheels. Just mounted them and they look pretty darn sweet. So, gotta finish all that, varnish new holes, secure all new additions, paint little brackets etc and then cover the fuse and empennage. Oh yeah, and finish enlarging my wing tank to accommodate the thirstier new engine (the jobs really never do seem to end) ALL YOU BUILDERS OUT THERE, KEEP AT IT, TRY TO TOUCH IT EVERY DAY, LOOK AT THE PROJECT AS A BUNCH OF LITTLE PROJECTS AND ENJOY COMPLETING EACH ONE. DON'T WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT DEADLINES, JUST KEEP BUILDING AND DON'T STOP AND ONE DAY SHE'LL BE DONE AND YOUR "TO DO" LIST WILL BE COMPLETELY CHECKED OFF. Douwe http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:57:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine From: "kevinpurtee" If you drive instead of fly we can drink more. I'm just sayin'... Got any photos, Gene? You do such nice work. do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333561#333561 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:23 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine From: "Bill Church" As builders progress with their projects, and post occasional photos, detailing their handiwork, there are always a few that stand out because of the fine level of craftsmanship that is obviously going into the construction. Those are the projects that I really look forward to seeing in the completed state. And Gene's and Douwe's planes both fall into that category for me. I am eagerly looking forward to seeing both of those beauties at Brodhead... whenever they happen to make it. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333565#333565 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:01:53 PM PST US From: "Scott Knowlton " Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine Ditto on yours too Bill! Scott Knowlton -----Original Message----- From: Bill Church Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine As builders progress with their projects, and post occasional photos, detailing their handiwork, there are always a few that stand out because of the fine level of craftsmanship that is obviously going into the construction. Those are the projects that I really look forward to seeing in the completed state. And Gene's and Douwe's planes both fall into that category for me. I am eagerly looking forward to seeing both of those beauties at Brodhead... whenever they happen to make it. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333565#333565 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:54 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine From: "Bill Church" Yes, I also really look forward to seeing my OWN plane at Brodhead ... someday. :) Thanks for the kind words, Scott. Bill C. do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333567#333567 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:38:35 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Hey Jack, what caused your forced landing. Your crank didn't snap on your 6 5 did =0Ait? He He, Gardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________ =0AFrom: Jack Phillips =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matron ics.com=0ASent: Fri, March 11, 2011 10:21:47 AM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-Li st: Gene's progress and mine=0A=0A =0ADouwe, just a word of appreciation an d congratulations on your project. I know =0Awhat you=99ve had to go through, better than most. When I had a forced landing in =0Amy Pietenpol just a few weeks after its first flight and was faced with 8 months =0Aof repairs before flying it again I almost sold the pile of scrap and gave up. =0ABuilding the Pietenpol was fun, rebuilding it was no fun at all, and a lot of =0Aunpleasant work. You never even got to fly your airplane (I had nearly 7 hours =0Aon mine when I tore it up), so you don=99t even kn ow what it feels like to fly =0Asomething you built yourself.=0A =0AKeep at it =93 you=99re almost there. And you will be prouder than ev er of the =0Aresults. You have demonstrated just what kind of drive and de termination you =0Apossess. And you should be very proud.=0A =0AJack Phill ips=0ANX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D=0ARaleigh, NC=0A =0A=0A____ ____________________________=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matroni cs.com =0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of D ouwe Blumberg=0ASent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:48 AM=0ATo: pietenpolgroup =0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine=0A =0AGene, love readi ng about your progress, I feel the same way right now about the =0Amillions of details before she=99s finished. I, for one, am just trying to =9Ctouch =0Athe project every day=9D without thinking about Bro dhead too much. =0A=0A =0AI too have used your =9Cbarebones=9D photo (not you, your plane) for my screensaver =0Aand am completely confid ent she=99ll be a magnificent flying machine, especially =0Awith that paint job someone (Dan Helsper) stole from you (just kidding Dan!) =0A=0A =0AIf you make it this year, great, if next year great also, plus you=99ll have more =0Atime to work any bugs out before a big cross c ountry.=0A =0AI have been working away on the new engine installation. It =99s surprising what a =0Abig deal a changeover is, especially as thi s new one will have a small =0Aelectrical system. New engine controls and instruments to mount in what I =0Aintended to be a super clean and simple c ockpit, so I=99m trying to find places to =0A=9Chide=9D t hings yet keeping them handy.=0A =0AThe engine is off being rebuilt and con verted from an 0200 to a C90 while I do =0Athe wiring and plumbing. The ne w cowling is about 75% done. Installing cool =0Alouvers, sanding, etc, etc , etc.=0A =0ANew gear is pretty much finished. Am using 28X3 smooth clinch ers with covered =0Awheels. Just mounted them and they look pretty darn sw eet.=0A =0ASo, gotta finish all that, varnish new holes, secure all new add itions, paint =0Alittle brackets etc and then cover the fuse and empennage. =0A =0AOh yeah, and finish enlarging my wing tank to accommodate the thirst ier new =0Aengine (the jobs really never do seem to end)=0A =0AALL YOU BUIL DERS OUT THERE, KEEP AT IT, TRY TO TOUCH IT EVERY DAY, LOOK AT THE =0APROJE CT AS A BUNCH OF LITTLE PROJECTS AND ENJOY COMPLETING EACH ONE. DON =99T =0AWORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT DEADLINES, JUST KEEP BUILDING AND DON=99 T STOP AND ONE DAY =0ASHE=99LL BE DONE AND YOUR =9CTO DO =9D LIST WILL BE COMPLETELY CHECKED OFF.=0A =0ADouwe =0A =0A =0Ahttp://ww w.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Aht ==== =0A ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gene's and Douwe's progress From: helspersew@aol.com Hello all you good people!!!!! (and I really mean that) Yes, it is really good to hear of Douwe and Gene's progress, being so close to showing-up at Brodhead for the first time. There is nothing like it for us types.......Thank you to Ryan and Jess Meuller for recording that arrival. I have watched it about a thousand times!!! As a matter of fact, Gene called me the other day with a few incidental questions and requests concerning such mundane things as motor mount springs, Stewart System glue, and the like,........ but I could tell the real underlying reason for his call was to try to get me to reveal some more detailes about my black-and-yellow paint-job. I know deep-down, he is still sore about the whole thing................He actually thinks I stole HIS paint job....HA!!!! 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VCBBUyBBIEJVTkNIIE9GIExJVFRMRSBQUk9KRUNUUyBBTkQgRU5KT1kgQ09NUExFVElORyBFQUNI IE9ORS4gIERPTuKAmVQgCldPUlJZIFRPTyBNVUNIIEFCT1VUIERFQURMSU5FUywgSlVTVCBLRUVQ IEJVSUxESU5HIEFORCBET07igJlUIFNUT1AgQU5EIE9ORSBEQVkgClNIReKAmUxMIEJFIERPTkUg QU5EIFlPVVIg4oCcVE8gRE/igJ0gTElTVCBXSUxMIEJFIENPTVBMRVRFTFkgQ0hFQ0tFRCBPRkYu CiAKRG91d2UgCiAgCiAgCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS9OYXZpZ2F0b3I/UGlldGVu cG9sLUxpc3QKaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tCmh0PT09PSAgCg0K ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:57:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ford A engine mount springs From: "Brett Phillips" Dan's message about Gene and Douwe's progress triggered a question. Namely; what are the Model A folks using for engine mount springs? I know there is a Ford part number on the drawings, but something tells me that it is only a partial number. Can anyone suggest a spring that fits and works well? The springs that came with our ship do not match and have been "clearanced" with a grinder. That last bit is what really sets me on edge... Brett Phillips Strasburg, VA NX311GP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333577#333577 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ford A engine mount springs From: "Brett Phillips" I should have done some research before posting, it appears that these springs are a Model T part (shoulda known!). Here's a listing and picture from the Snyders site: http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/search.php?q=t-2742&x=0&y=0 Is anyone else using these springs to hold their Ford down? Brett Phillips Strasburg, VA NX311GP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333578#333578 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine From: "K5YAC" Yeah, way to go Gardiner. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333579#333579 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:57 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Nope. Stainless steel wool in the carb heat muff got loose and got sucked into the carburetor. It was a cold (29=B0) humid morning, flying over a lake. I started getting carb ice and pulled on full carb heat and full throttle, trying to keep up with a Husky for a photo shoot. Even a trusty, reliable Continental can=92t run with its carburetor throat full of steel wool. Not my happiest day=85 Jack Phillips NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94 Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 7:36 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Hey Jack, what caused your forced landing. Your crank didn't snap on your 65 did it? He He, Gardiner _____ From: Jack Phillips Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 10:21:47 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Douwe, just a word of appreciation and congratulations on your project. I know what you=92ve had to go through, better than most. When I had a forced landing in my Pietenpol just a few weeks after its first flight and was faced with 8 months of repairs before flying it again I almost sold the pile of scrap and gave up. Building the Pietenpol was fun, rebuilding it was no fun at all, and a lot of unpleasant work. You never even got to fly your airplane (I had nearly 7 hours on mine when I tore it up), so you don=92t even know what it feels like to fly something you built yourself. Keep at it ' you=92re almost there. And you will be prouder than ever of the results. You have demonstrated just what kind of drive and determination you possess. And you should be very proud. Jack Phillips NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94 Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gene's progress and mine Gene, love reading about your progress, I feel the same way right now about the millions of details before she=92s finished. I, for one, am just trying to =93touch the project every day=94 without thinking about Brodhead too much. I too have used your =93barebones=94 photo (not you, your plane) for my screensaver and am completely confident she=92ll be a magnificent flying machine, especially with that paint job someone (Dan Helsper) stole from you (just kidding Dan!) If you make it this year, great, if next year=85 great also, plus you=92ll have more time to work any bugs out before a big cross country. I have been working away on the new engine installation. It=92s surprising what a big deal a changeover is, especially as this new one will have a small electrical system. New engine controls and instruments to mount in what I intended to be a super clean and simple cockpit, so I=92m trying to find places to =93hide=94 things yet keeping them handy. The engine is off being rebuilt and converted from an 0200 to a C90 while I do the wiring and plumbing. The new cowling is about 75% done. Installing cool louvers, sanding, etc, etc, etc. New gear is pretty much finished. Am using 28X3 smooth clinchers with covered wheels. Just mounted them and they look pretty darn sweet. So, gotta finish all that, varnish new holes, secure all new additions, paint little brackets etc and then cover the fuse and empennage. Oh yeah, and finish enlarging my wing tank to accommodate the thirstier new engine (the jobs really never do seem to end) ALL YOU BUILDERS OUT THERE, KEEP AT IT, TRY TO TOUCH IT EVERY DAY, LOOK AT THE PROJECT AS A BUNCH OF LITTLE PROJECTS AND ENJOY COMPLETING EACH ONE. DON=92T WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT DEADLINES, JUST KEEP BUILDING AND DON=92T STOP AND ONE DAY SHE=92LL BE DONE AND YOUR =93TO DO=94 LIST WILL BE COMPLETELY CHECKED OFF. Douwe http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/contribution============ ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:10 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Gene's and Douwe's progress So Dan, are you flying yours up from Tennessee this year? Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gene's and Douwe's progress Hello all you good people!!!!! (and I really mean that) Yes, it is really good to hear of Douwe and Gene's progress, being so close to showing-up at Brodhead for the first time. There is nothing like it for us types.......Thank you to Ryan and Jess Meuller for recording that arrival. I have watched it about a thousand times!!! As a matter of fact, Gene called me the other day with a few incidental questions and requests concerning such mundane things as motor mount springs, Stewart System glue, and the like,........ but I could tell the real underlying reason for his call was to try to get me to reveal some more detailes about my black-and-yellow paint-job. I know deep-down, he is still sore about the whole thing................He actually thinks I stole HIS paint job....HA!!!! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:16 PM PST US From: Lawrence Williams Subject: Pietenpol-List: Friday's list Did anyone else not get the Pietlist on Thursday? I'm still in HI and was wondering if the tsunami had anything to do with it. It's the first time I remember having nothing Piet related to read with breakfast. Hope I wasn't inadvertently unsubscribed. (Maybe I shouldn't put that word in the text??) Larry W. do not archive ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:38 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Pietenpol-List: SnF Hey all I have been very busy getting ready for SNF. I have steel fittings from Chet Peek and a Data plate from Oscar Zuniga plywood from Wicks Aircraft, wood from Dave Aldrich and a Model A Ford engine from Gene Rambo. Now we are all going to build a Fuselage which will be a long model. For anyone who is planning to build a Piet in the near future and wants a good start on a project, this fuselage will be FOR SALE at Brodhead. Stop in at the Wood Workshop. This is a benefit for the Brodhead Airport new visitors Center. Also at the Wood Workshop we will again be running Mike Cuys video again if you want to check that out. We normally have a great turnout of Piet people, so stop by and check us out. Dick N. ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:23 PM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: SnF ummmm=2C how about a model A engine mount from me?? Don't know that I have a spare engine for you. LOL Gene do not archive From: horzpool@goldengate.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: SnF Hey all I have been very busy getting ready for SNF. I have steel fittings from Ch et Peek and a Data plate from Oscar Zuniga plywood from Wicks Aircraft=2C w ood from Dave Aldrich and a Model A Ford engine from Gene Rambo. Now we ar e all going to build a Fuselage which will be a long model. For anyone who is planning to build a Piet in the near future and wants a g ood start on a project=2C this fuselage will be FOR SALE at Brodhead. Sto p in at the Wood Workshop. This is a benefit for the Brodhead Airport new visitors Center. Also at the Wood Workshop we will again be running Mike Cuys video again if you want to check that out. We normally have a great turnout of Piet people=2C so stop by and check us out. Dick N. ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine From: "kevinpurtee" Jack - Not your happiest day but you pulled it off. And because you're a good guy you shared your experience with me after my landing gear debacle. You also told me that you rebuilt the airplane, though that process was very unpleasant, and that you've flown the tar out of it since. Not sure if I thanked you for your kindness at the time but I really appreciate it. 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