Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 03/12/11


Total Messages Posted: 38



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     1. 03:21 AM - Dan Helsper (Jack)
     2. 04:48 AM - Re: Re: Gene's progress and mine (Jack Phillips)
     3. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: Gene's progress and mine (airlion)
     4. 06:15 AM - Re: Re: Gene's progress and mine (Jack Phillips)
     5. 06:31 AM - everyone's progress (Douwe Blumberg)
     6. 06:38 AM - Both Dan and Gene have stolen Jimmy Dean's paint scheme ! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
     7. 06:40 AM - 0200 to C90 (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 07:15 AM - Torque -V- HP (Michael Perez)
     9. 07:25 AM - Re: 0200 to C90 (Michael Perez)
    10. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: Gene's progress and mine (Dave and Connie)
    11. 08:24 AM - Re: Douwe and Gene's Home Stretch in Accomplishing the Big Kielb (aerocarjake)
    12. 09:55 AM - Re: Re: Gene's progress and mine (Charles Campbell)
    13. 11:14 AM - Re: Gene's progress and mine (aerocarjake)
    14. 02:35 PM - Re: SnF (rhatkinson@comcast.net)
    15. 02:53 PM - Hacked computers (shad bell)
    16. 03:18 PM - Re: SnF (Charles Campbell)
    17. 03:18 PM - sun n fun (airlion)
    18. 03:39 PM - Re: Re: Gene's progress and mine (Jack Phillips)
    19. 03:46 PM - Re: SnF (Charles Campbell)
    20. 03:49 PM - Virus eradication help (helspersew@aol.com)
    21. 04:03 PM - Gene's progress (helspersew@aol.com)
    22. 04:05 PM - Re: Jack Cox obit (Earnest Bunbury)
    23. 04:07 PM - Ooop's (echobravo4)
    24. 04:22 PM - Re: Ooop's (Gary Boothe)
    25. 04:30 PM - Re: Ooop's (Ken Bickers)
    26. 04:39 PM - Re: Virus eradication help (Ryan Mueller)
    27. 04:55 PM - Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Larry Vetter)
    28. 04:57 PM - Re: Good read about Jeff Boatright (Earnest Bunbury)
    29. 05:24 PM - Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Ryan Mueller)
    30. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Jack)
    31. 07:02 PM - Re: sun n fun (Ben Charvet)
    32. 07:41 PM - Re: SnF (Dick N)
    33. 08:49 PM - She got legs (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    34. 09:11 PM - Re: SnF (kevinpurtee)
    35. 09:25 PM - Re: Gene's progress (kevinpurtee)
    36. 09:27 PM - Re: Hacked computers (Ameet Savant)
    37. 09:45 PM - Re: Hacked computers (Matthew VanDervort)
    38. 11:26 PM - Re: She got legs (aerocarjake)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:21:02 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Dan Helsper
    Dan it appears your computer has been hacked. Jack DSM Do not archive


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    Time: 04:48:30 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Gene's progress and mine
    Thanks, Kevin. Seeing your Pietenpol foundered on the field at Brodhead brought up all kinds of unpleasant memories. My broken axle was due to a pickup truck being right where I needed to land, and I had to pull the nose up to slow down and let it get out of the way. Then in keeping the plane from stalling, I had to nose down so far I literally flew it into the ground and broke the axle (unknown to me). I recovered from the bounce and made a decent 3-point landing and was congratulating myself when the right wing began to drop and full left rudder, left aileron and left brake couldn't keep it straight and it went into the ditch and groundlooped. One good thing that came out of my "Incident" was that when I called Karen and told her I tore up the airplane (we were not married and had only been dating for about a year), she immediately came out and gave me a hug, then took charge of acquiring a flatbed trailer and supervised the disassembly and loading of the airplane on the trailer (she had helped me move it to the airport only 2 months before), while I was talking with the Highway Patrol, the FAA and the NTSB (that's what happens when you land on a highway, but in this part of the country there is little other choice - either highway or forest, hence my desire for a dependable engine). Anyway, that night I was lying awake at about 3:00 in the morning, playing it over and over in my mind, trying to determine what went wrong. As I lay there, I realized that in all of that, Karen never once said "I wish you'd stop flying." So I rolled over and woke her up and asked her to marry me. Her response was "Can it wait till morning?" She's been the perfect wife ever since. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> Jack - Not your happiest day but you pulled it off. And because you're a good guy you shared your experience with me after my landing gear debacle. You also told me that you rebuilt the airplane, though that process was very unpleasant, and that you've flown the tar out of it since. Not sure if I thanked you for your kindness at the time but I really appreciate it. Kevin -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX


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    Time: 05:41:32 AM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Gene's progress and mine
    Great read on your accident Jack. Thanks also for sharing. Were you able to see the power lines across the highway before you landed? Around here you have a lot of new pine growth to plough into, but up there you have some pretty hefty trees. When I was flying in the marines over Lake Okechobe We were told to plough into an island rather than into the water so as not to flip over and be alligator meat. That big 3350 radial was a good weedeater. Also bailing out was a no no. When is your B n B opening up? See you at Brodhead. Gardiner ----- Original Message ---- From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 7:45:03 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine Thanks, Kevin. Seeing your Pietenpol foundered on the field at Brodhead brought up all kinds of unpleasant memories. My broken axle was due to a pickup truck being right where I needed to land, and I had to pull the nose up to slow down and let it get out of the way. Then in keeping the plane from stalling, I had to nose down so far I literally flew it into the ground and broke the axle (unknown to me). I recovered from the bounce and made a decent 3-point landing and was congratulating myself when the right wing began to drop and full left rudder, left aileron and left brake couldn't keep it straight and it went into the ditch and groundlooped. One good thing that came out of my "Incident" was that when I called Karen and told her I tore up the airplane (we were not married and had only been dating for about a year), she immediately came out and gave me a hug, then took charge of acquiring a flatbed trailer and supervised the disassembly and loading of the airplane on the trailer (she had helped me move it to the airport only 2 months before), while I was talking with the Highway Patrol, the FAA and the NTSB (that's what happens when you land on a highway, but in this part of the country there is little other choice - either highway or forest, hence my desire for a dependable engine). Anyway, that night I was lying awake at about 3:00 in the morning, playing it over and over in my mind, trying to determine what went wrong. As I lay there, I realized that in all of that, Karen never once said "I wish you'd stop flying." So I rolled over and woke her up and asked her to marry me. Her response was "Can it wait till morning?" She's been the perfect wife ever since. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> Jack - Not your happiest day but you pulled it off. And because you're a good guy you shared your experience with me after my landing gear debacle. You also told me that you rebuilt the airplane, though that process was very unpleasant, and that you've flown the tar out of it since. Not sure if I thanked you for your kindness at the time but I really appreciate it. Kevin -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX


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    Time: 06:15:41 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Gene's progress and mine
    Gardiner, on that landing I flew over one set of power lines and under another, and never saw either one. Good help from Above, for sure. I was at 800' AGL when the trouble started. The engine didn't quit until I closed the throttle to land, when it obligingly stopped with the prop nearly horizontal so I didn't have a prop strike, but it was only putting out about 1200 RPM - not enough to keep the plane in the air. I was coming down at 400 fpm according to the VSI, so I had a little less than 2 minutes to find a place to land it. I was trying to make it to Deck Field, a 1300' airstrip along US Highway 64, but I was still over a mile away when I was down to 200' and decided the highway was the best chance I had. The FAA was very good about it, and there was no problem from them with me landing on the highway (since nobody got hurt). They checked my paperwork since I was still in Phase I (first flight had only been a few weeks before) but everything was legal. They asked for a report once I determined the cause of the partial power failure, and once I filed that I was free to continue flying it after repairs were made. It was listed as an "incident" with the NTSB since no one was hurt and no major damage occurred. Of course, once I got it home I discovered a lot more damage than was evident at the scene - the worst damage was a crack in the right lower longeron where the tailwheel got torn off in the groundloop. I also had to build a new horizontal stabilizer (the spar was broken in 3 places), repair one broken rib in the wing and repair the right aileron. In addition, I built a new axle from thicker material (after doing a stress analysis and determining that the original axle was very marginal in strength) and sent the new axle to Rex Heat Treating in Pennsylvania to be heat-treated to nearly double the strength of normalized 4130 chromoly. This happened in November 2004 and I got all the repairs done in time to fly it to Brodhead 2005, and then on to Oshkosh. As for the B&B, we've got the hangar built but we need to sell our house in Raleigh before we can afford to build the Bed & Breakfast at Smith Mountain Lake. The house has been on the market for 2 years, with no takers. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:35 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine Great read on your accident Jack. Thanks also for sharing. Were you able to see the power lines across the highway before you landed? Around here you have a lot of new pine growth to plough into, but up there you have some pretty hefty trees. When I was flying in the marines over Lake Okechobe We were told to plough into an island rather than into the water so as not to flip over and be alligator meat. That big 3350 radial was a good weedeater. Also bailing out was a no no. When is your B n B opening up? See you at Brodhead. Gardiner ----- Original Message ---- From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 7:45:03 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Thanks, Kevin. Seeing your Pietenpol foundered on the field at Brodhead brought up all kinds of unpleasant memories. My broken axle was due to a pickup truck being right where I needed to land, and I had to pull the nose up to slow down and let it get out of the way. Then in keeping the plane from stalling, I had to nose down so far I literally flew it into the ground and broke the axle (unknown to me). I recovered from the bounce and made a decent 3-point landing and was congratulating myself when the right wing began to drop and full left rudder, left aileron and left brake couldn't keep it straight and it went into the ditch and groundlooped. One good thing that came out of my "Incident" was that when I called Karen and told her I tore up the airplane (we were not married and had only been dating for about a year), she immediately came out and gave me a hug, then took charge of acquiring a flatbed trailer and supervised the disassembly and loading of the airplane on the trailer (she had helped me move it to the airport only 2 months before), while I was talking with the Highway Patrol, the FAA and the NTSB (that's what happens when you land on a highway, but in this part of the country there is little other choice - either highway or forest, hence my desire for a dependable engine). Anyway, that night I was lying awake at about 3:00 in the morning, playing it over and over in my mind, trying to determine what went wrong. As I lay there, I realized that in all of that, Karen never once said "I wish you'd stop flying." So I rolled over and woke her up and asked her to marry me. Her response was "Can it wait till morning?" She's been the perfect wife ever since. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> Jack - Not your happiest day but you pulled it off. And because you're a good guy you shared your experience with me after my landing gear debacle. You also told me that you rebuilt the airplane, though that process was very unpleasant, and that you've flown the tar out of it since. Not sure if I thanked you for your kindness at the time but I really appreciate it. Kevin -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX


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    Time: 06:31:08 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: everyone's progress
    Thanks Jack for the encouragement. I too was sorely tempted to roll her out into the middle of the field and light her up, but that went away after a couple of days and I'm so glad I kept at it, though it is pretty tough the second time around, though I will say, it sure goes quicker as you've done all the things before. Sounds like we have a few new ones almost done, which is so great. The other day I ordered an item from Ray Allen who makes electric servo trim systems and when I told him I was building a Pietenpol, he said "it's sure nice to hear someone is still building Pietenpols". I took a moment to educate him to the fact that there are many guys still building that old defunct design from scratch, with nothing but plans, no kit, no prefab assemblies, no quick-build super duper sub assembly option or anything like that. He was really tickled. I'm convinced the more Piets get finished and fly around, the more people see them and get hooked and the more in turn get built, thus keeping this wonderful legacy alive. Douwe


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    Time: 06:38:49 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Both Dan and Gene have stolen Jimmy Dean's paint scheme
    ! Actually the very first yellow and black (that I know of) Ford powered Pietenpol showed up in the late 1990's at Brodhead owned by James and Connie Dean of Sanford, NC. Jimmy won the Wright Brothers Award that year and trailered his plane to the Dayton Airshow where he assembled and flew the airplane, then flew the airplane to Brodhead where he flew it all weekend, then he and Connie trailered it back to NC where it sits today needing a recover job. (Jim is friends with Jack Phillips) It's funny how you guys joke about who stole the paint scheme from who but nobody can deny the fact that THAT color scheme on a Ford Piet is truly a GORGEOUS ONE and the more the merrier I say ! Now if Jimmy could recover his Piet and bring it to Brodhead again maybe in 2012 we could see a THREE plane formation of gorgeous yellow and black Piets overhead singing in Model A Ford harmony ! Now that would give the crowd some chills and make for some one-of-a-kind video ! Mike C.


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    Time: 06:40:51 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: 0200 to C90
    Converting an 0200 to a C90 isn't a bit deal. They are pretty much the same engine. Changes cams, redo the carb and you're pretty much there. The C90 produces it's torque at lower speeds, thus allowing it to spin a larger diameter prop, though slower. I personally feel swinging a large prop helps a lot with these old draggy airframes. The 0200 is great, but was designed for a more slippery modern airframe and spins a smaller prop significantly faster. They are both fine engines in a Piet and I've spoken with people who have both and are very happy, but since I was having mine gone through anyways, I opted for the C90. Should also be a tiny bit less thirsty. Douwe


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    Time: 07:15:02 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Torque -V- HP
    Douwe's post about converting from an O-200 to a C-90 and the fact that I a m gearing up to buy an engine, I am trying to figure out some basic engine facts. - I understand that prop. tip speed needs to be under the speed of sound. Thi s is probably not a problem with our type power plants. (?) I also understa nd that it is wise to choose the longest prop. you can within reason. (Engi ne size/power, type plane, etc.)- I start to think that with a long prop. and staying slower then the speed of sound at the tips, one would want a g ood amount of pitch to grab the air at slower speeds. This would also, in t heory, allow the engine to turn slower and-save some wear on the engine.. .and fuel. (again in theory) - To do so, would it not be wise to try to find/build an engine with low end torque as opposed to overall HP?- I know very little about Continental en gines...nothing about Lycoming. I wonder if one-brand runs -inherently more torque then the other?- How do the small radial engines compare torq ue wise to the flat four cylinder engines? Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 07:25:28 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: 0200 to C90
    Thanks. If I can't get my hands on a radial engine, the C-90/95 is my next choice. This O-200 conversion is quite interesting to me. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 08:22:10 AM PST US
    From: Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Gene's progress and mine
    On 3/12/2011 9:12 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips"<pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > > > In addition, I built a > new axle from thicker material (after doing a stress analysis and > determining that the original axle was very marginal in strength) and sent > the new axle to Rex Heat Treating in Pennsylvania to be heat-treated to > nearly double the strength of normalized 4130 chromoly. > > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC Jack, From the looks of the landing area you did an amazing job. What are the specs on the upgraded axle? Material size and heat treat specification? Dave


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    Time: 08:24:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Douwe and Gene's Home Stretch in Accomplishing the
    Big Kielb
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    ...and to continue the "Waldo" quotes: "who's flying with Kessler...?" "Brown, new guy" -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333616#333616


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    Time: 09:55:31 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Gene's progress and mine
    Jack, what you should have done was slow the plane to the same speed as the pickup truck and then land in the bed of his truck. How would that have been? You probably wouldn't have had any damage -- if you could have gotten the truck driver to stop before the next overpass. I've seen pictures of a J3 landing on a platform built on top of a vehicle -- why not the bed of a truck? Please don't archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine > <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > > Gardiner, on that landing I flew over one set of power lines and under > another, and never saw either one. Good help from Above, for sure. > > I was at 800' AGL when the trouble started. The engine didn't quit until > I > closed the throttle to land, when it obligingly stopped with the prop > nearly > horizontal so I didn't have a prop strike, but it was only putting out > about > 1200 RPM - not enough to keep the plane in the air. I was coming down at > 400 fpm according to the VSI, so I had a little less than 2 minutes to > find > a place to land it. I was trying to make it to Deck Field, a 1300' > airstrip > along US Highway 64, but I was still over a mile away when I was down to > 200' and decided the highway was the best chance I had. > > The FAA was very good about it, and there was no problem from them with me > landing on the highway (since nobody got hurt). They checked my paperwork > since I was still in Phase I (first flight had only been a few weeks > before) > but everything was legal. They asked for a report once I determined the > cause of the partial power failure, and once I filed that I was free to > continue flying it after repairs were made. It was listed as an > "incident" > with the NTSB since no one was hurt and no major damage occurred. Of > course, once I got it home I discovered a lot more damage than was evident > at the scene - the worst damage was a crack in the right lower longeron > where the tailwheel got torn off in the groundloop. I also had to build a > new horizontal stabilizer (the spar was broken in 3 places), repair one > broken rib in the wing and repair the right aileron. In addition, I built > a > new axle from thicker material (after doing a stress analysis and > determining that the original axle was very marginal in strength) and sent > the new axle to Rex Heat Treating in Pennsylvania to be heat-treated to > nearly double the strength of normalized 4130 chromoly. > > This happened in November 2004 and I got all the repairs done in time to > fly > it to Brodhead 2005, and then on to Oshkosh. > > As for the B&B, we've got the hangar built but we need to sell our house > in > Raleigh before we can afford to build the Bed & Breakfast at Smith > Mountain > Lake. The house has been on the market for 2 years, with no takers. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:35 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine > > > Great read on your accident Jack. Thanks also for sharing. Were you able > to > see > the power lines across the highway before you landed? Around here you > have > a > lot of new pine growth to plough into, but up there you have some pretty > hefty > trees. When I was flying in the marines over Lake Okechobe We were told to > plough into an island rather than into the water so as not to flip over > and > be > alligator meat. That big 3350 radial was a good weedeater. Also bailing > out > was > a no no. When is your B n B opening up? See you at Brodhead. Gardiner > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 7:45:03 AM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine > > <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > > Thanks, Kevin. > > Seeing your Pietenpol foundered on the field at Brodhead brought up all > kinds of unpleasant memories. My broken axle was due to a pickup truck > being right where I needed to land, and I had to pull the nose up to slow > down and let it get out of the way. Then in keeping the plane from > stalling, I had to nose down so far I literally flew it into the ground > and > broke the axle (unknown to me). I recovered from the bounce and made a > decent 3-point landing and was congratulating myself when the right wing > began to drop and full left rudder, left aileron and left brake couldn't > keep it straight and it went into the ditch and groundlooped. > > One good thing that came out of my "Incident" was that when I called Karen > and told her I tore up the airplane (we were not married and had only been > dating for about a year), she immediately came out and gave me a hug, then > took charge of acquiring a flatbed trailer and supervised the disassembly > and loading of the airplane on the trailer (she had helped me move it to > the > airport only 2 months before), while I was talking with the Highway > Patrol, > the FAA and the NTSB (that's what happens when you land on a highway, but > in this part of the country there is little other choice - either highway > or > forest, hence my desire for a dependable engine). > > Anyway, that night I was lying awake at about 3:00 in the morning, playing > it over and over in my mind, trying to determine what went wrong. As I > lay > there, I realized that in all of that, Karen never once said "I wish you'd > stop flying." So I rolled over and woke her up and asked her to marry me. > Her response was "Can it wait till morning?" She's been the perfect wife > ever since. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > kevinpurtee > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 11:58 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine > > <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > Jack - Not your happiest day but you pulled it off. And because you're a > good guy you shared your experience with me after my landing gear debacle. > You also told me that you rebuilt the airplane, though that process was > very > unpleasant, and that you've flown the tar out of it since. Not sure if I > thanked you for your kindness at the time but I really appreciate it. > > Kevin > > -------- > Kevin "Axel" Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > >


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    Time: 11:14:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gene's progress and mine
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Great story Jack. Thanks for sharing......... Looks like you had a ground loop followed by throwing your wife (girlfriend at the time) for a loop..........(ha!) -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333634#333634


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    Time: 02:35:48 PM PST US
    From: rhatkinson@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: SnF
    Where is Broadhead? & When is the event ? Would like to visit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:51:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: SnF Hey all I have been very busy getting ready for SNF. =C2-I have steel fittings fr om Chet Peek and a Data plate from Oscar Zuniga plywood from Wicks Aircraft , wood from Dave Aldrich and a Model A Ford engine from Gene Rambo. =C2-N ow we are all going to build a Fuselage which will be a long model. =C2- For anyone who is planning to build a Piet in the near future and wants a g ood start on a project, =C2-this fuselage will be FOR SALE at Brodhead. =C2-Stop in at the Wood Workshop. =C2-This is a benefit for the Brodhea d Airport new visitors Center. Also at the Wood Workshop we will again be running Mike Cuys video again if you want to check that out. We normally have a great turnout of Piet people, so stop by and check us ou t. Dick N.


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    Time: 02:53:53 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Hacked computers
    I got a "no subject" mail from Dan as well.- I have been seeing emails fr om many that are no subject, and from "friends" of mine, just to find an ad for some pharmacy selling viagra, or the like.- I have even got emails f rom myself, that I did not send.- Does anyone know how to fix this?- I have heard that changing your email password can help...? - Computer Guru's speak up, Shad Do not archive=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 03:18:45 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: SnF
    I think you will discover that that is a Model A Ford engine MOUNT. He wrote once to correct that. From what I read, don't count on an engine!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: rhatkinson@comcast.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: SnF Where is Broadhead? & When is the event ? Would like to visit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:51:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: SnF Hey all I have been very busy getting ready for SNF. I have steel fittings from Chet Peek and a Data plate from Oscar Zuniga plywood from Wicks Aircraft, wood from Dave Aldrich and a Model A Ford engine from Gene Rambo. Now we are all going to build a Fuselage which will be a long model. For anyone who is planning to build a Piet in the near future and wants a good start on a project, this fuselage will be FOR SALE at Brodhead. Stop in at the Wood Workshop. This is a benefit for the Brodhead Airport new visitors Center. Also at the Wood Workshop we will again be running Mike Cuys video again if you want to check that out. We normally have a great turnout of Piet people, so stop by and check us out. Dick N.


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    Time: 03:18:46 PM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: sun n fun
    H ey ya'll, are any other Pietenpols flying into Sun N Fun. We have at least 3 from west Georgia. Speak up and where from. Cheers, Gardiner


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    Time: 03:39:57 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Gene's progress and mine
    With my luck, if I had tried that, just as I was about to touch down in the bed of the truck, he would see me in the rear view mirror and slam on his brakes. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh,NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 12:52 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine <cncampbell@windstream.net> Jack, what you should have done was slow the plane to the same speed as the pickup truck and then land in the bed of his truck. How would that have been? You probably wouldn't have had any damage -- if you could have gotten the truck driver to stop before the next overpass. I've seen pictures of a J3 landing on a platform built on top of a vehicle -- why not the bed of a truck? Please don't archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine > <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > > Gardiner, on that landing I flew over one set of power lines and under > another, and never saw either one. Good help from Above, for sure. > > I was at 800' AGL when the trouble started. The engine didn't quit until > I > closed the throttle to land, when it obligingly stopped with the prop > nearly > horizontal so I didn't have a prop strike, but it was only putting out > about > 1200 RPM - not enough to keep the plane in the air. I was coming down at > 400 fpm according to the VSI, so I had a little less than 2 minutes to > find > a place to land it. I was trying to make it to Deck Field, a 1300' > airstrip > along US Highway 64, but I was still over a mile away when I was down to > 200' and decided the highway was the best chance I had. > > The FAA was very good about it, and there was no problem from them with me > landing on the highway (since nobody got hurt). They checked my paperwork > since I was still in Phase I (first flight had only been a few weeks > before) > but everything was legal. They asked for a report once I determined the > cause of the partial power failure, and once I filed that I was free to > continue flying it after repairs were made. It was listed as an > "incident" > with the NTSB since no one was hurt and no major damage occurred. Of > course, once I got it home I discovered a lot more damage than was evident > at the scene - the worst damage was a crack in the right lower longeron > where the tailwheel got torn off in the groundloop. I also had to build a > new horizontal stabilizer (the spar was broken in 3 places), repair one > broken rib in the wing and repair the right aileron. In addition, I built > a > new axle from thicker material (after doing a stress analysis and > determining that the original axle was very marginal in strength) and sent > the new axle to Rex Heat Treating in Pennsylvania to be heat-treated to > nearly double the strength of normalized 4130 chromoly. > > This happened in November 2004 and I got all the repairs done in time to > fly > it to Brodhead 2005, and then on to Oshkosh. > > As for the B&B, we've got the hangar built but we need to sell our house > in > Raleigh before we can afford to build the Bed & Breakfast at Smith > Mountain > Lake. The house has been on the market for 2 years, with no takers. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:35 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine > > > Great read on your accident Jack. Thanks also for sharing. Were you able > to > see > the power lines across the highway before you landed? Around here you > have > a > lot of new pine growth to plough into, but up there you have some pretty > hefty > trees. When I was flying in the marines over Lake Okechobe We were told to > plough into an island rather than into the water so as not to flip over > and > be > alligator meat. That big 3350 radial was a good weedeater. Also bailing > out > was > a no no. When is your B n B opening up? See you at Brodhead. Gardiner > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 7:45:03 AM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine > > <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > > Thanks, Kevin. > > Seeing your Pietenpol foundered on the field at Brodhead brought up all > kinds of unpleasant memories. My broken axle was due to a pickup truck > being right where I needed to land, and I had to pull the nose up to slow > down and let it get out of the way. Then in keeping the plane from > stalling, I had to nose down so far I literally flew it into the ground > and > broke the axle (unknown to me). I recovered from the bounce and made a > decent 3-point landing and was congratulating myself when the right wing > began to drop and full left rudder, left aileron and left brake couldn't > keep it straight and it went into the ditch and groundlooped. > > One good thing that came out of my "Incident" was that when I called Karen > and told her I tore up the airplane (we were not married and had only been > dating for about a year), she immediately came out and gave me a hug, then > took charge of acquiring a flatbed trailer and supervised the disassembly > and loading of the airplane on the trailer (she had helped me move it to > the > airport only 2 months before), while I was talking with the Highway > Patrol, > the FAA and the NTSB (that's what happens when you land on a highway, but > in this part of the country there is little other choice - either highway > or > forest, hence my desire for a dependable engine). > > Anyway, that night I was lying awake at about 3:00 in the morning, playing > it over and over in my mind, trying to determine what went wrong. As I > lay > there, I realized that in all of that, Karen never once said "I wish you'd > stop flying." So I rolled over and woke her up and asked her to marry me. > Her response was "Can it wait till morning?" She's been the perfect wife > ever since. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > kevinpurtee > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 11:58 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gene's progress and mine > > <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > Jack - Not your happiest day but you pulled it off. And because you're a > good guy you shared your experience with me after my landing gear debacle. > You also told me that you rebuilt the airplane, though that process was > very > unpleasant, and that you've flown the tar out of it since. Not sure if I > thanked you for your kindness at the time but I really appreciate it. > > Kevin > > -------- > Kevin "Axel" Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > >


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    Time: 03:46:09 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: SnF
    I think you will discover that that is a Model A Ford engine MOUNT. He wrote once to correct that. From what I read, don't count on an engine!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: rhatkinson@comcast.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: SnF Where is Broadhead? & When is the event ? Would like to visit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:51:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: SnF Hey all I have been very busy getting ready for SNF. I have steel fittings from Chet Peek and a Data plate from Oscar Zuniga plywood from Wicks Aircraft, wood from Dave Aldrich and a Model A Ford engine from Gene Rambo. Now we are all going to build a Fuselage which will be a long model. For anyone who is planning to build a Piet in the near future and wants a good start on a project, this fuselage will be FOR SALE at Brodhead. Stop in at the Wood Workshop. This is a benefit for the Brodhead Airport new visitors Center. Also at the Wood Workshop we will again be running Mike Cuys video again if you want to check that out. We normally have a great turnout of Piet people, so stop by and check us out. Dick N.


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    Time: 03:49:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Virus eradication help
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Sorry guys, Does anyone have any idea how to get rid of these viruses that take-over your email list? Dan H do not archive


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    Time: 04:03:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Gene's progress
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Jack, My Piet is still in Poplar Grove, and will be there for some time to come I think. I still need to finish re-assembling my engine, and also complete the new electrical system (gagging). I will be traveling back to PG once-a-month from our new place in TN., for about a weeks time each, in order to complete this and fly-off the remaining 27 hours in "Phase I". I expect to make it back to Brodhead this year, flying that loooooonnnggg cross-country from C77 to Brod. Not sure if I want to try for Oshkosh this year or not. Hopefully I will be flying the Piet down to TN. this fall some time. I empathise with you and Douwe when it comes to the subject of addressing major problems so soon after the initial flight. I too found it VERY distasteful to face a complete engine tear-down last fall. I have learned a whole bunch since then, but it still makes it no easier to take. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN.


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    Time: 04:05:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jack Cox obit
    From: Earnest Bunbury <ebunburyesq@gmail.com>
    Good final wishes: "At the request of the deceased there will be no funeral or memorial services. The family would like to thank Dr. Christine McCarty, the staff o f the Randolph Cancer Center, Dr. Isley, Dr. Lininger and especially the thir d floor nurses at Randolph Hospital for their care and compassion. They made a very difficult time more bearable. Donations may be made to the Randolph Cancer Center or the Randolph Public Library. Jack was a lover of books, especially history, having taught the subject during his years at Fayetteville Street School. It would be appropriate that he be remembered through the enjoyment of the local library. Pugh Funeral Home in Asheboro i s in charge of local arrangements. Online condolences may be made to the family at www.pughfuneralhome.com" - from the obituary On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrote : > Here is the Obituary for Jack Cox. > > > http://obituaries.news-record.com/obituaries/news-record/obituary.aspx?n =justin-b-cox-jack&pid=149118453 > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94 > > Raleigh, NC > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 04:07:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Ooop's
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    Hi Everybody- Ok- this would have been easier if i would have a noticed it before the doubler's were glued in but.... Any way since I can't get to the outer most hinge screws on the horizontal stab. because of the diagonal brace i am wondering if this would work. I have recessed an anchor nut into 16th ply and was going to epoxy the ply to the back side of the hinge doubler (already glued in :x !) I thought that might be better than trying to get a regular blind nut in there or just gluing in a nut. thanks for the help-AGAIN! Earl -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333663#333663 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/anchornutd_468.jpg


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    Time: 04:22:24 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Ooop's
    Earl, I drilled an 1" access hole in mine on one side...same problem. Gary Boothe -----Original Message----- From: echobravo4 Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ooop's Hi Everybody- Ok- this would have been easier if i would have a noticed it before the doubler's were glued in but.... Any way since I can't get to the outer most hinge screws on the horizontal stab. because of the diagonal brace i am wondering if this would work. I have recessed an anchor nut into 16th ply and was going to epoxy the ply to the back side of the hinge doubler (already glued in :x !) I thought that might be better than trying to get a regular blind nut in there or just gluing in a nut. thanks for the help-AGAIN! Earl -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333663#333663 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/anchornutd_468.jpg


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    Time: 04:30:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ooop's
    From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
    I also cut holes that were about an inch around on one side. I elected to cut the holes on what would become the bottom of the H-stab, as there is no point in having nice new drain holes that point up. Ken On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > Earl, > > I drilled an 1" access hole in mine on one side...same problem. > > Gary Boothe > > -----Original Message----- From: echobravo4 > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:04 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ooop's > > > Hi Everybody- > > Ok- this would have been easier if i would have a noticed it before > the doubler's were glued in but.... > > Any way since I can't get to the outer most hinge screws on the horizontal > stab. because of the diagonal brace i am wondering if this would work. > > I have recessed an anchor nut into 16th ply and was going to epoxy > the ply to the back side of the hinge doubler (already glued in :x !) > > I thought that might be better than trying to get a regular blind nut > in there or just gluing in a nut. > > thanks for the help-AGAIN! > > Earl > > -------- > Earl Brown > > I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up > where I intended to be. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333663#333663 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/anchornutd_468.jpg > >


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    Time: 04:39:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Virus eradication help
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Hey Dan, A password change certainly couldn't hurt. Some suggestions regarding passwords: Avoid dictionary words. Take a couple of non-dictionary words and split them up and combine the parts to make something nonsensical. An example: Flitzenpol Add numbers: Flitzenpol75 Special characters: Flitzenpol75$ Replace a couple letters with characters or numbers that resemble the letters: Fl!tz3np0l75$ That'd be a pretty good password. If you don't want to have to remember all of your secure, crazy looking passwords I would recommend a utility called LastPass (http://www.lastpass.com). It's a free, reputable service that you sign up for, and you create a master password....something secure like the example above. They provide plugins for all your common web browsers, and when you open your web browser you only have to log in one time with your master password. Then when you visit the various sites that you have to login to it will give you the opportunity to save that site/password combo in your Lastpass Vault. From there on out you can have it automatically fill in the username and password when you visit the site and have already logged in to Lastpass with your master password. It's not as complicated as I may be making it sound, check out the site for info. If you are afraid that a virus infection may be the root of your problem, whether it be hijacked email or weird "XP Antivirus 2010" popups wanting you to buy a solution to clean your machine, there are a couple utilities that I have had good luck with: Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool: http://www.microsoft.com/security/pc-security/malware-removal.aspx Malwarebytes: http://www.malwarebytes.org Spybot Search + Destroy: http://www.safer-networking.org If you try to install any of these and the "anti-virus" popup won't let you, or tells you they are malware, then you are definitely infected. If you have any issues with running these solutions, or just want some assistance, feel free to let me know. I can send you a link to a Gotomeeting that you could join, and then you could show me your screen and allow me to control the keyboard and mouse so I could work on it. It's a one time thing, once you end the meeting I can no longer access the computer. Hope that helps, Ryan do not archive On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:45 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote: > > Sorry guys, > > Does anyone have any idea how to get rid of these viruses that take-over > your email list? > > Dan H > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 04:55:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Kyle and Amanda Franklin
    From: "Larry Vetter" <vetter@evertek.net>
    I know this is off topic, but I know a lot of you have seen their act and know who they are. Kyle and Amanda were seriously injured in a crash at the Brownsville airshow today.Please keep them both in your prayers. Thanks. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333672#333672


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    Time: 04:57:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Good read about Jeff Boatright
    From: Earnest Bunbury <ebunburyesq@gmail.com>
    Ah, my dirty secret is out! As for leaving time for the Piet, I was out to the airport this afternoon, but the winds were such that the yellow streak down my back was glowing. So, I had to work on another of my dirty secrets, of which Larry knows... On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>wrote: > jdotson@centurylink.net> > > I just happened upon Emory's web site and found a great read about Jeff. He > is doing some great work and is taking on more. Jeff be careful to leave > time to fly the Pietenpol. > > -------- > Jerry Dotson > 59 Daniel Johnson Rd > Baker, FL 32531 > > Started building NX510JD July, 2009 > wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling > using Lycoming O-235 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333465#333465 > >


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    Time: 05:24:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/fiesta-123823-air-crash.html Very unfortunate.... do not archive On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Larry Vetter <vetter@evertek.net> wrote: > > I know this is off topic, but I know a lot of you have seen their act and > know who they are. Kyle and Amanda were seriously injured in a crash at the > Brownsville airshow today.Please keep them both in your prayers. > Thanks. > Larry > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333672#333672 > >


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    Time: 05:54:18 PM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin
    Thanks for the link Ryan. My thoughts are with them, family and friends. Jack DSM Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Kyle and Amanda Franklin http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/fiesta-123823-air-crash.html Very unfortunate.... do not archive On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Larry Vetter <vetter@evertek.net> wrote: I know this is off topic, but I know a lot of you have seen their act and know who they are. Kyle and Amanda were seriously injured in a crash at the Brownsville airshow today.Please keep them both in your prayers. Thanks. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333672#333672 ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==========


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    Time: 07:02:15 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: sun n fun
    If the weather cooperates, I'll be flying in Tuesday morning, all the way from Titusville, Fl (About 70 miles from SNF) When is the Georgia crowd arriving? Ben Charvet NX866BC On 3/12/2011 6:15 PM, airlion wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: airlion<airlion@bellsouth.net> > > H ey ya'll, are any other Pietenpols flying into Sun N Fun. We have at least 3 > from west Georgia. Speak up and where from. Cheers, Gardiner > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center


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    Time: 07:41:03 PM PST US
    From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: SnF
    Brodhead, Wi Is 50 mi so. of madison and 50 mi West of Janesville. The Pietenpol reunion is always the weekend before OSH. It is really a reunion, You get to meet all of the guys on the list, then you will understand some of the humor on the list. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: rhatkinson@comcast.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: SnF Where is Broadhead? & When is the event ? Would like to visit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:51:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: SnF Hey all I have been very busy getting ready for SNF. I have steel fittings from Chet Peek and a Data plate from Oscar Zuniga plywood from Wicks Aircraft, wood from Dave Aldrich and a Model A Ford engine from Gene Rambo. Now we are all going to build a Fuselage which will be a long model. For anyone who is planning to build a Piet in the near future and wants a good start on a project, this fuselage will be FOR SALE at Brodhead. Stop in at the Wood Workshop. This is a benefit for the Brodhead Airport new visitors Center. Also at the Wood Workshop we will again be running Mike Cuys video again if you want to check that out. We normally have a great turnout of Piet people, so stop by and check us out. Dick N.


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    Time: 08:49:23 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: She got legs
    Yes indeed gents she's got legs and as of 4:30 pm on this say March 3, 2011, she got legs and she knows how to use them. Back in the shop for a little bit of work and once it started it didn't stop. She also got some new instrument boards too but that's enough talk for one day. John


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    Time: 09:11:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: SnF
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    There's humor on the list, Dick? do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333693#333693


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    Time: 09:25:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gene's progress
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Yeah, Dan, "VERY distasteful" indeed. I haven't had to open the case halves (which would constitute "complete" for the corvair) but popping the heads off kinda stank. Looking forward to seeing that Garmin 1000..... God willing I'll take a picture of fat girl next to your masterpiece in July:). Kevin -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333694#333694


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    Time: 09:27:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hacked computers
    From: Ameet Savant <ameetsavant@gmail.com>
    Fear not people. This is not usually a problem. The "spoofing" does not mean someone hacked your account. If someone does hack your account the first thing they would do is change your password. If you can still get in to your email account that means it was not hacked. Having said that, changing your password every month or so is a good idea. There is a lot of literature out there for creating strong passwords, so I won't repeat it here. So, what is spoofing? It just means for no or low security email servers anyone could pretend to be someone else. When spammers get access to such servers (very easy to do) they pretend to be someone else. In short, don't worry about it if you can get access to your account. Changing password will help your peace of mind. Hope that helps! Ameet On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:50 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I got a "no subject" mail from Dan as well. I have been seeing emails from > many that are no subject, and from "friends" of mine, just to find an ad for > some pharmacy selling viagra, or the like. I have even got emails from > myself, that I did not send. Does anyone know how to fix this? I have > heard that changing your email password can help...? > > Computer Guru's speak up, > Shad > Do not archive > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 09:45:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hacked computers
    From: Matthew VanDervort <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>
    Ameet, Great advice! I don't believe I've seen you post on here before? It's p ossible I blatantly missed a post, even one with pics! Care to share your piet progress? I don't often speak up, but perfer to take all of the great advice and knowledge here into consideration for my rebuil d! Hope you are having a great build! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:23 AM, Ameet Savant <ameetsavant@gmail.com> wrote: > Fear not people. This is not usually a problem. The "spoofing" does not me an someone hacked your account. If someone does hack your account the first t hing they would do is change your password. If you can still get in to your e mail account that means it was not hacked. Having said that, changing your p assword every month or so is a good idea. There is a lot of literature out t here for creating strong passwords, so I won't repeat it here. > > So, what is spoofing? It just means for no or low security email servers a nyone could pretend to be someone else. When spammers get access to such ser vers (very easy to do) they pretend to be someone else. > > In short, don't worry about it if you can get access to your account. Chan ging password will help your peace of mind. > > Hope that helps! > Ameet > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:50 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I got a "no subject" mail from Dan as well. I have been seeing emails fro m many that are no subject, and from "friends" of mine, just to find an ad f or some pharmacy selling viagra, or the like. I have even got emails from m yself, that I did not send. Does anyone know how to fix this? I have heard that changing your email password can help...? > > Computer Guru's speak up, > Shad > Do not archive > > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 11:26:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: She got legs
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Very exciting.... well done....! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333699#333699




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