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1. 04:46 AM - Re: She got legs (Jack Phillips)
2. 05:02 AM - Re: Virus eradication help (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: sun n fun (airlion)
4. 05:53 AM - Re: Virus eradication help (Kip and Beth Gardner)
5. 06:04 AM - Piet placard (bubbleboy)
6. 06:23 AM - Fittings (Jack)
7. 06:35 AM - Re: Hacked computers (Ameet Savant)
8. 06:38 AM - Re: She got legs (helspersew@aol.com)
9. 06:44 AM - Re: Fittings (helspersew@aol.com)
10. 07:02 AM - Re: She got legs (John Hofmann)
11. 07:16 AM - Re: Hacked computers (Gboothe5)
12. 07:22 AM - Re: Fittings (Gboothe5)
13. 07:26 AM - Re: Re: Fittings (Jack)
14. 08:39 AM - Re: Hacked computers (Matthew VanDervort)
15. 10:19 AM - Re: Piet placard (aerocarjake)
16. 10:29 AM - Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Larry Vetter)
17. 10:44 AM - Re: sun n fun (Frank Metcalfe)
18. 10:50 AM - Re: Torque -V- HP (Michael Perez)
19. 10:51 AM - Re: Piet placard (Chris)
20. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: Fittings (Charles Campbell)
21. 11:29 AM - Barnstormer video (Ralph and Carol)
22. 01:11 PM - Re: Fittings (Gene Rambo)
23. 01:24 PM - Re: Barnstormer video (Jim Boyer)
24. 01:58 PM - Recommended Filler? (tdudley@umn.edu)
25. 02:04 PM - Re: Piet placard (bubbleboy)
26. 02:14 PM - Re: Recommended Filler? (Ryan Mueller)
27. 02:46 PM - Re: She got legs (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
28. 04:15 PM - Re: Recommended Filler? (norm)
29. 04:24 PM - Re: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Max Hegler)
30. 04:30 PM - Re: Recommended Filler? (Bill Church)
31. 06:27 PM - Re: Re: Recommended Filler? (Ryan Mueller)
32. 06:54 PM - Re: Recommended Filler? (tdudley@umn.edu)
33. 10:27 PM - Re: She got legs (Clif Dawson)
34. 10:46 PM - Re: Torque -V- HP (Clif Dawson)
35. 11:44 PM - Re: steampunk (Clif Dawson)
36. 11:54 PM - Re: Virus eradication help (Clif Dawson)
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Not only does she got legs, she's wearing striped pantyhose!
Lookin' good, John
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AMsafetyC@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 11:46 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: She got legs
Yes indeed gents she's got legs and as of 4:30 pm on this say March 3, 2011,
she got legs and she knows how to use them.
Back in the shop for a little bit of work and once it started it didn't
stop. She also got some new instrument boards too but that's enough talk for
one day.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Virus eradication help |
Thanks Ryan, I will try this stuff. Also, I am going to save this email
so I won't be a pest. :O)
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2011 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Virus eradication help
Hey Dan,
A password change certainly couldn't hurt. Some suggestions regarding
passwords:
Avoid dictionary words. Take a couple of non-dictionary words and split
them up and combine the parts to make something nonsensical. An
example: Flitzenpol
Add numbers: Flitzenpol75
Special characters: Flitzenpol75$
Replace a couple letters with characters or numbers that resemble the
letters: Fl!tz3np0l75$
That'd be a pretty good password. If you don't want to have to remember
all of your secure, crazy looking passwords I would recommend a utility
called LastPass (http://www.lastpass.com). It's a free, reputable
service that you sign up for, and you create a master
password....something secure like the example above. They provide
plugins for all your common web browsers, and when you open your web
browser you only have to log in one time with your master password.
Then when you visit the various sites that you have to login to it will
give you the opportunity to save that site/password combo in your
Lastpass Vault. From there on out you can have it automatically fill in
the username and password when you visit the site and have already
logged in to Lastpass with your master password. It's not as
complicated as I may be making it sound, check out the site for info.
If you are afraid that a virus infection may be the root of your
problem, whether it be hijacked email or weird "XP Antivirus 2010"
popups wanting you to buy a solution to clean your machine, there are a
couple utilities that I have had good luck with:
Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/pc-security/malware-removal.aspx
Malwarebytes: http://www.malwarebytes.org
Spybot Search + Destroy: http://www.safer-networking.org
If you try to install any of these and the "anti-virus" popup won't let
you, or tells you they are malware, then you are definitely infected.
If you have any issues with running these solutions, or just want some
assistance, feel free to let me know. I can send you a link to a
Gotomeeting that you could join, and then you could show me your screen
and allow me to control the keyboard and mouse so I could work on it.
It's a one time thing, once you end the meeting I can no longer access
the computer.
Hope that helps,
Ryan
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On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:45 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
Sorry guys,
Does anyone have any idea how to get rid of these viruses that
take-over your email list?
Dan H
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Ben, we are planning to leave on March 26. That should give us time to poke on
down there. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 9:59:35 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sun n fun
If the weather cooperates, I'll be flying in Tuesday morning, all the
way from Titusville, Fl (About 70 miles from SNF) When is the Georgia
crowd arriving?
Ben Charvet
NX866BC
On 3/12/2011 6:15 PM, airlion wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: airlion<airlion@bellsouth.net>
>
> H ey ya'll, are any other Pietenpols flying into Sun N Fun. We have at least
3
> from west Georgia. Speak up and where from. Cheers, Gardiner
>
>
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Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: Virus eradication help |
Buy a Macintosh - almost virus-free.
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On Mar 12, 2011, at 6:45 PM, HelsperSew@aol.com wrote:
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> Sorry guys,
>
> Does anyone have any idea how to get rid of these viruses that take-
> over your email list?
>
> Dan H
>
> do not archive
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>
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Was looking through West Coast Piets and some have a nice B H Pietenpol metal placard
with build year and engine type etc screwed to the front cockpit instrument
panel.
Is there a source for these anywhere?
Regards Scotty :D
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333717#333717
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Morning all,
For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis pin.
After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or reaming the
hole a bit oversized? I'm NOT suggesting this would be a good idea for wing
bolt holes, etc.
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: Hacked computers |
Matt,
I've been lurking for a very long time! I would post more often if I had
started building. At this time, I am just focused on a new IT business and a
growing family. I guess I can say the only progress I've made so far is
acquired a corvair core and decided to use the original airfoil. A search in
the archives can answer why I chose the original. I am also planning to
visit Jack Textor next weekend to see his project.
See link for corvair:
http://www.eaa80.org/show/show.php?tab=t5&title=Corvair&path=../projects/ameet_corvair/&back=/projects/index.php&anchor=bcondrey
Ameet
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Matthew VanDervort <
matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ameet,
> Great advice! I don't believe I've seen you post on here before? It's
> possible I blatantly missed a post, even one with pics!
> Care to share your piet progress? I don't often speak up, but perfer to
> take all of the great advice and knowledge here into consideration for my
> rebuild!
>
> Hope you are having a great build!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: She got legs |
John,
Congratulations. Looks very nice with those laminated legs. A great
feeling of accomplishment I'm sure!
.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
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Hi Jack,
I don't think the oversize route is a good idea. I just reamed the
paint out of the holes myself.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 8:24 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
Morning all,
For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis
pin. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or
reaming the hole a bit oversized? Im NOT suggesting this would be a
good idea for wing bolt holes, etc
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: She got legs |
I think you should know the biplane is as dead as the Dodo.
Well done my friend.
Do not archive.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Mar 12, 2011, at 10:45 PM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
> Yes indeed gents she's got legs and as of 4:30 pm on this say March 3,
2011, she got legs and she knows how to use them.
>
> Back in the shop for a little bit of work and once it started it
didn't stop. She also got some new instrument boards too but that's
enough talk for one day.
>
> John
> <she got legs.jpg>
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| Subject: | Hacked computers |
Ameet,
Great to hear from you again! Good luck with the new business.
Gary Boothe
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ameet Savant
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hacked computers
Matt,
I've been lurking for a very long time! I would post more often if I had
started building. At this time, I am just focused on a new IT business and a
growing family. I guess I can say the only progress I've made so far is
acquired a corvair core and decided to use the original airfoil. A search in
the archives can answer why I chose the original. I am also planning to
visit Jack Textor next weekend to see his project.
See link for corvair:
http://www.eaa80.org/show/show.php?tab=t5
<http://www.eaa80.org/show/show.php?tab=t5&title=Corvair&path=../projects/am
eet_corvair/&back=/projects/index.php&anchor=bcondrey>
&title=Corvair&path=../projects/ameet_corvair/&back=/projects/index.php&anch
or=bcondrey
Ameet
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Matthew VanDervort
<matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> wrote:
Ameet,
Great advice! I don't believe I've seen you post on here before? It's
possible I blatantly missed a post, even one with pics!
Care to share your piet progress? I don't often speak up, but perfer to take
all of the great advice and knowledge here into consideration for my
rebuild!
Hope you are having a great build!
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Jack,
All of mine are drilled at 13/64..not flight tested!
Gary
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
Morning all,
For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis pin.
After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or reaming the
hole a bit oversized? I'm NOT suggesting this would be a good idea for wing
bolt holes, etc.
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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Dan,
I'm guessing that will be the consensus, I've been reaming as you have so
far.
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
Hi Jack,
I don't think the oversize route is a good idea. I just reamed the
paint out of the holes myself.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 8:24 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
Morning all,
For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis
pin. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or
reaming the hole a bit oversized? Im NOT suggesting this would be a
good idea for wing bolt holes, etc
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: Hacked computers |
Awesome!! Always glad to see new builders around! And wish you the bet of l
uck! We really have a great bunch of folks here!!
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 13, 2011, at 10:13 AM, "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ameet,
>
>
>
> Great to hear from you again! Good luck with the new business
>
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ameet Savant
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:34 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hacked computers
>
>
>
> Matt,
>
>
>
> I've been lurking for a very long time! I would post more often if I had s
tarted building. At this time, I am just focused on a new IT business and a g
rowing family. I guess I can say the only progress I've made so far is acqui
red a corvair core and decided to use the original airfoil. A search in the a
rchives can answer why I chose the original. I am also planning to visit Jac
k Textor next weekend to see his project.
>
>
>
> See link for corvair:
>
> http://www.eaa80.org/show/show.php?tab=t5&title=Corvair&path=../proj
ects/ameet_corvair/&back=/projects/index.php&anchor=bcondrey
>
>
>
> Ameet
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Matthew VanDervort <matthew.vandervort@g
mail.com> wrote:
>
> Ameet,
>
> Great advice! I don't believe I've seen you post on here before? It's
possible I blatantly missed a post, even one with pics!
>
> Care to share your piet progress? I don't often speak up, but perfer to ta
ke all of the great advice and knowledge here into consideration for my rebu
ild!
>
>
>
> Hope you are having a great build!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Piet placard |
I tried to find them and ended up making my own artwork in Adobe Illustrator and
having a place lazer etched a couple.( one or two to screw up when punching
the data.....) I could send you the art file.....??!?!?!!
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin |
This is from Matt. Younkins facebook page. Some encouraging news.
Franklin Update
By Younkin Airshows
All, Please forward this letter on to who ever you see fit... Good morning all.
Let me first express on behalf of Amanda, Kyle, Myself and both of our families
so many thanks for all of your prayers and well wishes. We are all so fortunate
to have such a wonderful support network in all of you. We are still waiting
for updates and it could be many hours, days, or weeks before we know exactly
how the recovery process will play out between Amanda and Kyle. I can however
report that Kyle was not injured and or burned as badly as reported earlier
by the media and is expected to make a full and rapid recovery. I can also
say that the updates we are receiving on Amanda are increasingly optimistic and
though she has a long road of recovery ahead of her, the doctors are giving
us the impression that things are not as bad as first reported and her chances
for a full recovery are getting better not worse. The first 24 hours will set
the tone for the story ahead. I also have to extend a very sincere thanks to
my brother-in-law Kyle who I strongly credit for the fact that my little sister
is still with us. Having witnessed the accident and being on of the first on
the scene, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he made no less than five
quick decisions in the air and on the ground that gave her a second chance
at life!! When the engine quit, Amanda was on the top wing in the rack. Kyle continued
to fly the airplane in a straight and level fashion as long as he could
to give Amanda every opportunity to unstrap and get into the front cockpit
where she would have the best chance in the event of a hard landing. He also resisted
the tendency to turn for the pavement which typically induces a fatal
stall/spin situation. He avoided a landing in the pyro field which could have
proven to be fatal, and faced with the only other option of land in mesquite woods,
Kyle landed into the wind drastically reducing the forward speed at impact.
Upon reaching the scene, I noticed that he set the airplane down in the only
Waco si!
zed piec
e of ground in that dense woods that didn't have tall trees in it. Kyle sustained
the majority of his burns trying to pull his wife from the wreckage and when
his efforts produced no results, he stayed in the cockpit and transmitted a
repeating distress call about the post impact fire that had started. I honestly
believe this motivated the rapid responders to press through the brush and douse
the airplane at a more rapid rate which meant the split second difference
that saved Amanda, who was still in the plane. The first responders on the scene
did an excellent job of responding to the situation in a rapid manner. Having
a professional air boss teamed up with professional CFR personnel made a world
of difference that could be the single most important factor that both Amanda
and Kyle are still with us. Please continue to send your thoughts and prayers
this direction because we sincerely believe they are helping. I will pass
updates along as I receive them. SincerelyMatt
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We should get in the afternoon of the 26th if weather is good.
--- On Sat, 3/12/11, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sun n fun
If the weather cooperates, I'll be flying in Tuesday morning, all the
way from Titusville, Fl (About 70 miles from SNF)- When is the Georgia
crowd arriving?
Ben Charvet
NX866BC
On 3/12/2011 6:15 PM, airlion wrote:
> -->- Pietenpol-List message posted by: airlion<airlion@bellsouth.net>
>
> H ey ya'll, are any other Pietenpols flying into Sun N Fun. We have at le
ast 3
> from west Georgia. Speak up and where from. Cheers, Gardiner
>
>
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Torque -V- HP |
Thanks Clif!
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Scotty
Look about halfway down. http://avgrafix.com/custom1.htm
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:02 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet placard
--> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Was looking through West Coast Piets and some have a nice B H Pietenpol
metal placard with build year and engine type etc screwed to the front
cockpit instrument panel.
Is there a source for these anywhere?
Regards Scotty :D
--------
Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Read this topic online here:
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I'd rather ream to 13/64 than to have to drive the bolt in with a hammer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
>
> Dan,
> I'm guessing that will be the consensus, I've been reaming as you have so
> far.
> Jack
> DSM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> helspersew@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:42 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
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> Hi Jack,
>
> I don't think the oversize route is a good idea. I just reamed the
> paint out of the holes myself.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 8:24 am
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
>
>
> Morning all,
> For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis
> pin. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or
> reaming the hole a bit oversized? I'm NOT suggesting this would be a
> good idea for wing bolt holes, etc.
> Thanks,
> Jack
> DSM
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| Subject: | Barnstormer video |
On Wednesday of this week Public Television in South Dakota broadcast
the
video "Barnstormer". I had seen it mentioned here on the forum some time
back
and was hoping to see it sometime. It is truly delightful and I am
envious of
the good times the participants were having. It was even better
recognizing
people I see at Brodhead in the summer. Happy flying to all. Our sixty
inches of snow is supposed to start seriously melting this week.
Ralph in South Dakota
20 some years into a stalled project
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An AN3 bolt is NOT 3/16" That is your problem. An AN# is a #10 drill. Tr
y that and it will work perfectly. Do not drill oversized!
Gene Rambo
From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
Jack=2C
All of mine are drilled at 13/64=85.not flight tested!
Gary
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Sunday=2C March 13=2C 2011 6:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
Morning all=2C
For holes drilled in fittings=2C i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis pi
n. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or reaming
the hole a bit oversized? I=92m NOT suggesting this would be a good idea f
or wing bolt holes=2C etc=85
Thanks=2C
Jack
DSM http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matroni
cs.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Barnstormer video |
Hi Ralph and Carol,
Wow take it=C2- easy with all the snow. I am glad to be here even though
it is very damp here.
Hope to see you at Brodhead this July.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Recommended Filler? |
During building wood always seems subject to table "rash" (little divets, gouges,
staple holes after removal) no matter how much I clean and vacuum my workbench.
I think what bothers me most is the staple holes after I've removed them from gussets
or spacers (I don't think they're structurally a problem, but they are
an eyesore after being careful with constructing the pieces). I'd like to fill
them. I suppose you could do it with just epoxy, but I found Aeropoxy Light
and Microlight 410 Filler on Wick's website and was wondering if anyone had any
experience with either of them? Or other suggestions?
Do the above fillers just fill, or will they add "any" or a little strength to
those ugly holes too?
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Piet placard |
Just PM'd you Jake.
Thank you Chris looks great. Can you recall what cost these were?
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Recommended Filler? |
Tom,
The solution is designed in to the plans....fabric covering...
------Original Message------
From: tdudley@umn.edu
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol List
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Recommended Filler?
Sent: Mar 13, 2011 3:56 PM
During building wood always seems subject to table "rash" (little divets, gouges,
staple holes after removal) no matter how much I clean and vacuum my workbench.
I think what bothers me most is the staple holes after I've removed them from gussets
or spacers (I don't think they're structurally a problem, but they are
an eyesore after being careful with constructing the pieces). I'd like to fill
them. I suppose you could do it with just epoxy, but I found Aeropoxy Light
and Microlight 410 Filler on Wick's website and was wondering if anyone had any
experience with either of them? Or other suggestions?
Do the above fillers just fill, or will they add "any" or a little strength to
those ugly holes too?
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
Tom
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Ryan Mueller
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| Subject: | Re: She got legs |
And it can't pull high Gs
Thanks
John
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-----Original message-----
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 14:05:02 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: She got legs
I think you should know the biplane is as dead as the Dodo.
Well done my friend.
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John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Mar 12, 2011, at 10:45 PM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
> Yes indeed gents she's got legs and as of 4:30 pm on this say March 3,
2011, she got legs and she knows how to use them.
>
> Back in the shop for a little bit of work and once it started it didn't
stop. She also got some new instrument boards too but that's enough talk for
one day.
>
> John
> <she got legs.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: Recommended Filler? |
Wipe holes and dents with water a few times it will swell the wood ,and nea
rly =0Aclose the staple holes ,varnish should take care of the rest--
- norm=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "tdudley@um
n.edu" <tdudley@umn.edu>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, Ma
rch 13, 2011 4:56:06 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Recommended Filler?=0A
>=0A=0ADuring building wood always seems subject to table "rash" (little di
vets, =0Agouges, staple holes after removal) no matter how much I clean and
vacuum my =0Aworkbench.=0A=0AI think what bothers me most is the staple ho
les after I've removed them from =0Agussets or spacers (I don't think they'
re structurally a problem, but they are =0Aan eyesore after being careful w
ith constructing the pieces).- I'd like to fill =0Athem.- I suppose you
could do it with just epoxy, but I found Aeropoxy Light and =0AMicrolight
410 Filler on Wick's website and was wondering if anyone had any =0Aexperie
nce with either of them?- Or other suggestions?=0A=0ADo the above fillers
just fill, or will they add "any" or a little strength to =0Athose ugly ho
les too?=0A=0AThanks for any help or suggestions.=0A=0ATom=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARe
ad this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p
=========================0A
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| Subject: | Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin |
I hope their doctors are aware of this new technology...
http://news.discovery.com/tech/spray-on-skin-cells-for-burn-victims.html
Max
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin
> From: vetter@evertek.net
> Date: Sun=2C 13 Mar 2011 10:27:16 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
> This is from Matt. Younkins facebook page. Some encouraging news.
>
> Franklin Update
> By Younkin Airshows
> All=2C Please forward this letter on to who ever you see fit... Good mor
ning all. Let me first express on behalf of Amanda=2C Kyle=2C Myself and bo
th of our families so many thanks for all of your prayers and well wishes.
We are all so fortunate to have such a wonderful support network in all of
you. We are still waiting for updates and it could be many hours=2C days=2C
or weeks before we know exactly how the recovery process will play out bet
ween Amanda and Kyle. I can however report that Kyle was not injured and or
burned as badly as reported earlier by the media and is expected to make a
full and rapid recovery. I can also say that the updates we are receiving
on Amanda are increasingly optimistic and though she has a long road of rec
overy ahead of her=2C the doctors are giving us the impression that things
are not as bad as first reported and her chances for a full recovery are ge
tting better not worse. The first 24 hours will set the tone for the story
ahead. I also have to extend!
> a very sincere thanks to my brother-in-law Kyle who I strongly credit f
or the fact that my little sister is still with us. Having witnessed the ac
cident and being on of the first on the scene=2C I can say without a shadow
of a doubt that he made no less than five quick decisions in the air and o
n the ground that gave her a second chance at life!! When the engine quit
=2C Amanda was on the top wing in the rack. Kyle continued to fly the airpl
ane in a straight and level fashion as long as he could to give Amanda ever
y opportunity to unstrap and get into the front cockpit where she would hav
e the best chance in the event of a hard landing. He also resisted the tend
ency to turn for the pavement which typically induces a fatal stall/spin si
tuation. He avoided a landing in the pyro field which could have proven to
be fatal=2C and faced with the only other option of land in mesquite woods
=2C Kyle landed into the wind drastically reducing the forward speed at imp
act. Upon reaching the scen!
> e=2C I noticed that he set the airplane down in the only Waco si!
> zed piec
>
> e of ground in that dense woods that didn't have tall trees in it. Kyle s
ustained the majority of his burns trying to pull his wife from the wreckag
e and when his efforts produced no results=2C he stayed in the cockpit and
transmitted a repeating distress call about the post impact fire that had s
tarted. I honestly believe this motivated the rapid responders to press thr
ough the brush and douse the airplane at a more rapid rate which meant the
split second difference that saved Amanda=2C who was still in the plane. Th
e first responders on the scene did an excellent job of responding to the s
ituation in a rapid manner. Having a professional air boss teamed up with p
rofessional CFR personnel made a world of difference that could be the sing
le most important factor that both Amanda and Kyle are still with us. Pleas
e continue to send your thoughts and prayers this direction because we sinc
erely believe they are helping. I will pass updates along as I receive them
. SincerelyMatt
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| Subject: | Re: Recommended Filler? |
Add strength to staple holes?
The holes left by staples will not weaken your structure (unless you're using WAY
too many). Fillers typically are just that ... fillers. They will fill the
holes, and that's about it. Well, actually, if the filler is a different color
than the wood, then it may draw attention to them.
There really isn't much of the wood structure that is visible after covering -
just the cockpit areas. Probably not a problem worth spending too much time on.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Recommended Filler? |
And the visible wooden areas (i.e. cockpits) will be varnished, which will
help. Besides, I can't recall, of all the Pietenpols I have been in/looked
inside, ever thinking: "Wow...this guy had something good going....but these
staple holes, and that dress, it's awful, and those shoes and that coat,
geez!"
Ryan
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On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Add strength to staple holes?
> The holes left by staples will not weaken your structure (unless you're
> using WAY too many). Fillers typically are just that ... fillers. They will
> fill the holes, and that's about it. Well, actually, if the filler is a
> different color than the wood, then it may draw attention to them.
> There really isn't much of the wood structure that is visible after
> covering - just the cockpit areas. Probably not a problem worth spending too
> much time on.
>
> Bill C.
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Recommended Filler? |
Okay, not too smart a thread to add. Sorry.
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| Subject: | Re: She got legs |
Just where you plannin' on landing with those major
mudder dirt track tires??? :-)
Clif
Yes indeed gents she's got legs and as of 4:30 pm on this say March 3,
2011, she got legs and she knows how to use them.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Torque -V- HP |
You're welcome Michael. Another voyage of
discovery is upon you. :-)
Apparently Shubert gave Bernard one of his
props to use on the Corvair Piet. B liked it so
much that when Schubert contacted him to see
how it was working B was afraid he wanted it
back and didn't want to let it go. That story is back
there in the archives somewhere.
More than once, if memory serves. :-)
Clif
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| Subject: | Re: Virus eradication help |
Not for long.
Clif
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> Buy a Macintosh - almost virus-free.
>
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> On Mar 12, 2011, at 6:45 PM, HelsperSew@aol.com wrote:
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