---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/13/11: 36 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:46 AM - Re: She got legs (Jack Phillips) 2. 05:02 AM - Re: Virus eradication help (helspersew@aol.com) 3. 05:52 AM - Re: sun n fun (airlion) 4. 05:53 AM - Re: Virus eradication help (Kip and Beth Gardner) 5. 06:04 AM - Piet placard (bubbleboy) 6. 06:23 AM - Fittings (Jack) 7. 06:35 AM - Re: Hacked computers (Ameet Savant) 8. 06:38 AM - Re: She got legs (helspersew@aol.com) 9. 06:44 AM - Re: Fittings (helspersew@aol.com) 10. 07:02 AM - Re: She got legs (John Hofmann) 11. 07:16 AM - Re: Hacked computers (Gboothe5) 12. 07:22 AM - Re: Fittings (Gboothe5) 13. 07:26 AM - Re: Re: Fittings (Jack) 14. 08:39 AM - Re: Hacked computers (Matthew VanDervort) 15. 10:19 AM - Re: Piet placard (aerocarjake) 16. 10:29 AM - Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Larry Vetter) 17. 10:44 AM - Re: sun n fun (Frank Metcalfe) 18. 10:50 AM - Re: Torque -V- HP (Michael Perez) 19. 10:51 AM - Re: Piet placard (Chris) 20. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: Fittings (Charles Campbell) 21. 11:29 AM - Barnstormer video (Ralph and Carol) 22. 01:11 PM - Re: Fittings (Gene Rambo) 23. 01:24 PM - Re: Barnstormer video (Jim Boyer) 24. 01:58 PM - Recommended Filler? (tdudley@umn.edu) 25. 02:04 PM - Re: Piet placard (bubbleboy) 26. 02:14 PM - Re: Recommended Filler? (Ryan Mueller) 27. 02:46 PM - Re: She got legs (Amsafetyc@gmail.com) 28. 04:15 PM - Re: Recommended Filler? (norm) 29. 04:24 PM - Re: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Max Hegler) 30. 04:30 PM - Re: Recommended Filler? (Bill Church) 31. 06:27 PM - Re: Re: Recommended Filler? (Ryan Mueller) 32. 06:54 PM - Re: Recommended Filler? (tdudley@umn.edu) 33. 10:27 PM - Re: She got legs (Clif Dawson) 34. 10:46 PM - Re: Torque -V- HP (Clif Dawson) 35. 11:44 PM - Re: steampunk (Clif Dawson) 36. 11:54 PM - Re: Virus eradication help (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:44 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: She got legs Not only does she got legs, she's wearing striped pantyhose! Lookin' good, John Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC Do Not Archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 11:46 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: She got legs Yes indeed gents she's got legs and as of 4:30 pm on this say March 3, 2011, she got legs and she knows how to use them. Back in the shop for a little bit of work and once it started it didn't stop. She also got some new instrument boards too but that's enough talk for one day. John ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Virus eradication help From: helspersew@aol.com Thanks Ryan, I will try this stuff. Also, I am going to save this email so I won't be a pest. :O) Dan -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Mueller Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2011 6:39 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Virus eradication help Hey Dan, A password change certainly couldn't hurt. Some suggestions regarding passwords: Avoid dictionary words. Take a couple of non-dictionary words and split them up and combine the parts to make something nonsensical. An example: Flitzenpol Add numbers: Flitzenpol75 Special characters: Flitzenpol75$ Replace a couple letters with characters or numbers that resemble the letters: Fl!tz3np0l75$ That'd be a pretty good password. If you don't want to have to remember all of your secure, crazy looking passwords I would recommend a utility called LastPass (http://www.lastpass.com). It's a free, reputable service that you sign up for, and you create a master password....something secure like the example above. They provide plugins for all your common web browsers, and when you open your web browser you only have to log in one time with your master password. Then when you visit the various sites that you have to login to it will give you the opportunity to save that site/password combo in your Lastpass Vault. From there on out you can have it automatically fill in the username and password when you visit the site and have already logged in to Lastpass with your master password. It's not as complicated as I may be making it sound, check out the site for info. If you are afraid that a virus infection may be the root of your problem, whether it be hijacked email or weird "XP Antivirus 2010" popups wanting you to buy a solution to clean your machine, there are a couple utilities that I have had good luck with: Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool: http://www.microsoft.com/security/pc-security/malware-removal.aspx Malwarebytes: http://www.malwarebytes.org Spybot Search + Destroy: http://www.safer-networking.org If you try to install any of these and the "anti-virus" popup won't let you, or tells you they are malware, then you are definitely infected. If you have any issues with running these solutions, or just want some assistance, feel free to let me know. I can send you a link to a Gotomeeting that you could join, and then you could show me your screen and allow me to control the keyboard and mouse so I could work on it. It's a one time thing, once you end the meeting I can no longer access the computer. Hope that helps, Ryan do not archive On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:45 PM, wrote: Sorry guys, Does anyone have any idea how to get rid of these viruses that take-over your email list? Dan H do not archive ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:10 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sun n fun Ben, we are planning to leave on March 26. That should give us time to poke on down there. Gardiner ----- Original Message ---- From: Ben Charvet Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 9:59:35 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sun n fun If the weather cooperates, I'll be flying in Tuesday morning, all the way from Titusville, Fl (About 70 miles from SNF) When is the Georgia crowd arriving? Ben Charvet NX866BC On 3/12/2011 6:15 PM, airlion wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: airlion > > H ey ya'll, are any other Pietenpols flying into Sun N Fun. We have at least 3 > from west Georgia. Speak up and where from. Cheers, Gardiner > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:18 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Virus eradication help Buy a Macintosh - almost virus-free. Do not archive On Mar 12, 2011, at 6:45 PM, HelsperSew@aol.com wrote: > > Sorry guys, > > Does anyone have any idea how to get rid of these viruses that take- > over your email list? > > Dan H > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:31 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet placard From: "bubbleboy" Was looking through West Coast Piets and some have a nice B H Pietenpol metal placard with build year and engine type etc screwed to the front cockpit instrument panel. Is there a source for these anywhere? Regards Scotty :D -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333717#333717 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:56 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings Morning all, For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis pin. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or reaming the hole a bit oversized? I'm NOT suggesting this would be a good idea for wing bolt holes, etc. Thanks, Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hacked computers From: Ameet Savant Matt, I've been lurking for a very long time! I would post more often if I had started building. At this time, I am just focused on a new IT business and a growing family. I guess I can say the only progress I've made so far is acquired a corvair core and decided to use the original airfoil. A search in the archives can answer why I chose the original. I am also planning to visit Jack Textor next weekend to see his project. See link for corvair: http://www.eaa80.org/show/show.php?tab=t5&title=Corvair&path=../projects/ameet_corvair/&back=/projects/index.php&anchor=bcondrey Ameet On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Matthew VanDervort < matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> wrote: > Ameet, > Great advice! I don't believe I've seen you post on here before? It's > possible I blatantly missed a post, even one with pics! > Care to share your piet progress? I don't often speak up, but perfer to > take all of the great advice and knowledge here into consideration for my > rebuild! > > Hope you are having a great build! > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: She got legs From: helspersew@aol.com John, Congratulations. Looks very nice with those laminated legs. A great feeling of accomplishment I'm sure! .. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings From: helspersew@aol.com Hi Jack, I don't think the oversize route is a good idea. I just reamed the paint out of the holes myself. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. -----Original Message----- From: Jack Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 8:24 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings Morning all, For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis pin. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or reaming the hole a bit oversized? Im NOT suggesting this would be a good idea for wing bolt holes, etc Thanks, Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:54 AM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: She got legs I think you should know the biplane is as dead as the Dodo. Well done my friend. Do not archive. John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Mar 12, 2011, at 10:45 PM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote: > Yes indeed gents she's got legs and as of 4:30 pm on this say March 3, 2011, she got legs and she knows how to use them. > > Back in the shop for a little bit of work and once it started it didn't stop. She also got some new instrument boards too but that's enough talk for one day. > > John > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:16:28 AM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hacked computers Ameet, Great to hear from you again! Good luck with the new business. Gary Boothe Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ameet Savant Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hacked computers Matt, I've been lurking for a very long time! I would post more often if I had started building. At this time, I am just focused on a new IT business and a growing family. I guess I can say the only progress I've made so far is acquired a corvair core and decided to use the original airfoil. A search in the archives can answer why I chose the original. I am also planning to visit Jack Textor next weekend to see his project. See link for corvair: http://www.eaa80.org/show/show.php?tab=t5 &title=Corvair&path=../projects/ameet_corvair/&back=/projects/index.php&anch or=bcondrey Ameet On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Matthew VanDervort wrote: Ameet, Great advice! I don't believe I've seen you post on here before? It's possible I blatantly missed a post, even one with pics! Care to share your piet progress? I don't often speak up, but perfer to take all of the great advice and knowledge here into consideration for my rebuild! Hope you are having a great build! ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:14 AM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fittings Jack, All of mine are drilled at 13/64..not flight tested! Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:19 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings Morning all, For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis pin. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or reaming the hole a bit oversized? I'm NOT suggesting this would be a good idea for wing bolt holes, etc. Thanks, Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:55 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings Dan, I'm guessing that will be the consensus, I've been reaming as you have so far. Jack DSM -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings Hi Jack, I don't think the oversize route is a good idea. I just reamed the paint out of the holes myself. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. -----Original Message----- From: Jack Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 8:24 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings Morning all, For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis pin. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or reaming the hole a bit oversized? Im NOT suggesting this would be a good idea for wing bolt holes, etc Thanks, Jack DSM ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hacked computers From: Matthew VanDervort Awesome!! Always glad to see new builders around! And wish you the bet of l uck! We really have a great bunch of folks here!! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2011, at 10:13 AM, "Gboothe5" wrote: > Ameet, > > > > Great to hear from you again! Good luck with the new business > > > > Gary Boothe > > Do not archive > > > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ameet Savant > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:34 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hacked computers > > > > Matt, > > > > I've been lurking for a very long time! I would post more often if I had s tarted building. At this time, I am just focused on a new IT business and a g rowing family. I guess I can say the only progress I've made so far is acqui red a corvair core and decided to use the original airfoil. A search in the a rchives can answer why I chose the original. I am also planning to visit Jac k Textor next weekend to see his project. > > > > See link for corvair: > > http://www.eaa80.org/show/show.php?tab=t5&title=Corvair&path=../proj ects/ameet_corvair/&back=/projects/index.php&anchor=bcondrey > > > > Ameet > > > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Matthew VanDervort wrote: > > Ameet, > > Great advice! I don't believe I've seen you post on here before? It's possible I blatantly missed a post, even one with pics! > > Care to share your piet progress? I don't often speak up, but perfer to ta ke all of the great advice and knowledge here into consideration for my rebu ild! > > > > Hope you are having a great build! > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:19:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet placard From: "aerocarjake" I tried to find them and ended up making my own artwork in Adobe Illustrator and having a place lazer etched a couple.( one or two to screw up when punching the data.....) I could send you the art file.....??!?!?!! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333747#333747 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:29:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin From: "Larry Vetter" This is from Matt. Younkins facebook page. Some encouraging news. Franklin Update By Younkin Airshows All, Please forward this letter on to who ever you see fit... Good morning all. Let me first express on behalf of Amanda, Kyle, Myself and both of our families so many thanks for all of your prayers and well wishes. We are all so fortunate to have such a wonderful support network in all of you. We are still waiting for updates and it could be many hours, days, or weeks before we know exactly how the recovery process will play out between Amanda and Kyle. I can however report that Kyle was not injured and or burned as badly as reported earlier by the media and is expected to make a full and rapid recovery. I can also say that the updates we are receiving on Amanda are increasingly optimistic and though she has a long road of recovery ahead of her, the doctors are giving us the impression that things are not as bad as first reported and her chances for a full recovery are getting better not worse. The first 24 hours will set the tone for the story ahead. I also have to extend a very sincere thanks to my brother-in-law Kyle who I strongly credit for the fact that my little sister is still with us. Having witnessed the accident and being on of the first on the scene, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he made no less than five quick decisions in the air and on the ground that gave her a second chance at life!! When the engine quit, Amanda was on the top wing in the rack. Kyle continued to fly the airplane in a straight and level fashion as long as he could to give Amanda every opportunity to unstrap and get into the front cockpit where she would have the best chance in the event of a hard landing. He also resisted the tendency to turn for the pavement which typically induces a fatal stall/spin situation. He avoided a landing in the pyro field which could have proven to be fatal, and faced with the only other option of land in mesquite woods, Kyle landed into the wind drastically reducing the forward speed at impact. Upon reaching the scene, I noticed that he set the airplane down in the only Waco si! zed piec e of ground in that dense woods that didn't have tall trees in it. Kyle sustained the majority of his burns trying to pull his wife from the wreckage and when his efforts produced no results, he stayed in the cockpit and transmitted a repeating distress call about the post impact fire that had started. I honestly believe this motivated the rapid responders to press through the brush and douse the airplane at a more rapid rate which meant the split second difference that saved Amanda, who was still in the plane. The first responders on the scene did an excellent job of responding to the situation in a rapid manner. Having a professional air boss teamed up with professional CFR personnel made a world of difference that could be the single most important factor that both Amanda and Kyle are still with us. Please continue to send your thoughts and prayers this direction because we sincerely believe they are helping. I will pass updates along as I receive them. SincerelyMatt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333748#333748 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:44:32 AM PST US From: Frank Metcalfe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sun n fun We should get in the afternoon of the 26th if weather is good. --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Ben Charvet wrote: From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sun n fun If the weather cooperates, I'll be flying in Tuesday morning, all the way from Titusville, Fl (About 70 miles from SNF)- When is the Georgia crowd arriving? Ben Charvet NX866BC On 3/12/2011 6:15 PM, airlion wrote: > -->- Pietenpol-List message posted by: airlion > > H ey ya'll, are any other Pietenpols flying into Sun N Fun. We have at le ast 3 > from west Georgia. Speak up and where from. Cheers, Gardiner > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:58 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Torque -V- HP Thanks Clif! Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:21 AM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet placard Scotty Look about halfway down. http://avgrafix.com/custom1.htm Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:02 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet placard --> Was looking through West Coast Piets and some have a nice B H Pietenpol metal placard with build year and engine type etc screwed to the front cockpit instrument panel. Is there a source for these anywhere? Regards Scotty :D -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333717#333717 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:11:17 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings I'd rather ream to 13/64 than to have to drive the bolt in with a hammer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:24 AM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings > > Dan, > I'm guessing that will be the consensus, I've been reaming as you have so > far. > Jack > DSM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > helspersew@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:42 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings > > > Hi Jack, > > I don't think the oversize route is a good idea. I just reamed the > paint out of the holes myself. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack > To: pietenpol-list > Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 8:24 am > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings > > > Morning all, > For holes drilled in fittings, i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis > pin. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or > reaming the hole a bit oversized? I'm NOT suggesting this would be a > good idea for wing bolt holes, etc. > Thanks, > Jack > DSM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:32 AM PST US From: "Ralph and Carol" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormer video On Wednesday of this week Public Television in South Dakota broadcast the video "Barnstormer". I had seen it mentioned here on the forum some time back and was hoping to see it sometime. It is truly delightful and I am envious of the good times the participants were having. It was even better recognizing people I see at Brodhead in the summer. Happy flying to all. Our sixty inches of snow is supposed to start seriously melting this week. Ralph in South Dakota 20 some years into a stalled project ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 01:11:39 PM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fittings An AN3 bolt is NOT 3/16" That is your problem. An AN# is a #10 drill. Tr y that and it will work perfectly. Do not drill oversized! Gene Rambo From: gboothe5@comcast.net Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fittings Jack=2C All of mine are drilled at 13/64=85.not flight tested! Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Sunday=2C March 13=2C 2011 6:19 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fittings Morning all=2C For holes drilled in fittings=2C i.e. a 3/16th hole for a bolt or clevis pi n. After painting the fit will be too tight. Anybody drilling or reaming the hole a bit oversized? I=92m NOT suggesting this would be a good idea f or wing bolt holes=2C etc=85 Thanks=2C Jack DSM http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matroni cs.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:43 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormer video Hi Ralph and Carol, Wow take it=C2- easy with all the snow. I am glad to be here even though it is very damp here. Hope to see you at Brodhead this July. Cheers, Jim B. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:58:29 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Recommended Filler? From: "tdudley@umn.edu" During building wood always seems subject to table "rash" (little divets, gouges, staple holes after removal) no matter how much I clean and vacuum my workbench. I think what bothers me most is the staple holes after I've removed them from gussets or spacers (I don't think they're structurally a problem, but they are an eyesore after being careful with constructing the pieces). I'd like to fill them. I suppose you could do it with just epoxy, but I found Aeropoxy Light and Microlight 410 Filler on Wick's website and was wondering if anyone had any experience with either of them? Or other suggestions? Do the above fillers just fill, or will they add "any" or a little strength to those ugly holes too? Thanks for any help or suggestions. Tom Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333780#333780 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:04:39 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet placard From: "bubbleboy" Just PM'd you Jake. Thank you Chris looks great. Can you recall what cost these were? Scotty -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333782#333782 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Recommended Filler? From: "Ryan Mueller" Tom, The solution is designed in to the plans....fabric covering... ------Original Message------ From: tdudley@umn.edu Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Pietenpol List Subject: Pietenpol-List: Recommended Filler? Sent: Mar 13, 2011 3:56 PM During building wood always seems subject to table "rash" (little divets, gouges, staple holes after removal) no matter how much I clean and vacuum my workbench. I think what bothers me most is the staple holes after I've removed them from gussets or spacers (I don't think they're structurally a problem, but they are an eyesore after being careful with constructing the pieces). I'd like to fill them. I suppose you could do it with just epoxy, but I found Aeropoxy Light and Microlight 410 Filler on Wick's website and was wondering if anyone had any experience with either of them? Or other suggestions? Do the above fillers just fill, or will they add "any" or a little strength to those ugly holes too? Thanks for any help or suggestions. Tom Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333780#333780 Ryan Mueller ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:32 PM PST US From: "Amsafetyc@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: She got legs And it can't pull high Gs Thanks John Do not archive Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: John Hofmann Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 14:05:02 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: She got legs I think you should know the biplane is as dead as the Dodo. Well done my friend. Do not archive. John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Mar 12, 2011, at 10:45 PM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote: > Yes indeed gents she's got legs and as of 4:30 pm on this say March 3, 2011, she got legs and she knows how to use them. > > Back in the shop for a little bit of work and once it started it didn't stop. She also got some new instrument boards too but that's enough talk for one day. > > John > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:17 PM PST US From: norm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Recommended Filler? Wipe holes and dents with water a few times it will swell the wood ,and nea rly =0Aclose the staple holes ,varnish should take care of the rest-- - norm=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "tdudley@um n.edu" =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, Ma rch 13, 2011 4:56:06 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Recommended Filler?=0A >=0A=0ADuring building wood always seems subject to table "rash" (little di vets, =0Agouges, staple holes after removal) no matter how much I clean and vacuum my =0Aworkbench.=0A=0AI think what bothers me most is the staple ho les after I've removed them from =0Agussets or spacers (I don't think they' re structurally a problem, but they are =0Aan eyesore after being careful w ith constructing the pieces).- I'd like to fill =0Athem.- I suppose you could do it with just epoxy, but I found Aeropoxy Light and =0AMicrolight 410 Filler on Wick's website and was wondering if anyone had any =0Aexperie nce with either of them?- Or other suggestions?=0A=0ADo the above fillers just fill, or will they add "any" or a little strength to =0Athose ugly ho les too?=0A=0AThanks for any help or suggestions.=0A=0ATom=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARe ad this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p =========================0A ====0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 04:24:11 PM PST US From: Max Hegler Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin I hope their doctors are aware of this new technology... http://news.discovery.com/tech/spray-on-skin-cells-for-burn-victims.html Max > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin > From: vetter@evertek.net > Date: Sun=2C 13 Mar 2011 10:27:16 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > This is from Matt. Younkins facebook page. Some encouraging news. > > Franklin Update > By Younkin Airshows > All=2C Please forward this letter on to who ever you see fit... Good mor ning all. Let me first express on behalf of Amanda=2C Kyle=2C Myself and bo th of our families so many thanks for all of your prayers and well wishes. We are all so fortunate to have such a wonderful support network in all of you. We are still waiting for updates and it could be many hours=2C days=2C or weeks before we know exactly how the recovery process will play out bet ween Amanda and Kyle. I can however report that Kyle was not injured and or burned as badly as reported earlier by the media and is expected to make a full and rapid recovery. I can also say that the updates we are receiving on Amanda are increasingly optimistic and though she has a long road of rec overy ahead of her=2C the doctors are giving us the impression that things are not as bad as first reported and her chances for a full recovery are ge tting better not worse. The first 24 hours will set the tone for the story ahead. I also have to extend! > a very sincere thanks to my brother-in-law Kyle who I strongly credit f or the fact that my little sister is still with us. Having witnessed the ac cident and being on of the first on the scene=2C I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he made no less than five quick decisions in the air and o n the ground that gave her a second chance at life!! When the engine quit =2C Amanda was on the top wing in the rack. Kyle continued to fly the airpl ane in a straight and level fashion as long as he could to give Amanda ever y opportunity to unstrap and get into the front cockpit where she would hav e the best chance in the event of a hard landing. He also resisted the tend ency to turn for the pavement which typically induces a fatal stall/spin si tuation. He avoided a landing in the pyro field which could have proven to be fatal=2C and faced with the only other option of land in mesquite woods =2C Kyle landed into the wind drastically reducing the forward speed at imp act. Upon reaching the scen! > e=2C I noticed that he set the airplane down in the only Waco si! > zed piec > > e of ground in that dense woods that didn't have tall trees in it. Kyle s ustained the majority of his burns trying to pull his wife from the wreckag e and when his efforts produced no results=2C he stayed in the cockpit and transmitted a repeating distress call about the post impact fire that had s tarted. I honestly believe this motivated the rapid responders to press thr ough the brush and douse the airplane at a more rapid rate which meant the split second difference that saved Amanda=2C who was still in the plane. Th e first responders on the scene did an excellent job of responding to the s ituation in a rapid manner. Having a professional air boss teamed up with p rofessional CFR personnel made a world of difference that could be the sing le most important factor that both Amanda and Kyle are still with us. Pleas e continue to send your thoughts and prayers this direction because we sinc erely believe they are helping. I will pass updates along as I receive them . SincerelyMatt > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333748#333748 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 04:30:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Recommended Filler? From: "Bill Church" Add strength to staple holes? The holes left by staples will not weaken your structure (unless you're using WAY too many). Fillers typically are just that ... fillers. They will fill the holes, and that's about it. Well, actually, if the filler is a different color than the wood, then it may draw attention to them. There really isn't much of the wood structure that is visible after covering - just the cockpit areas. Probably not a problem worth spending too much time on. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333798#333798 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:27:16 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Recommended Filler? From: Ryan Mueller And the visible wooden areas (i.e. cockpits) will be varnished, which will help. Besides, I can't recall, of all the Pietenpols I have been in/looked inside, ever thinking: "Wow...this guy had something good going....but these staple holes, and that dress, it's awful, and those shoes and that coat, geez!" Ryan do not archive On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Bill Church wrote: > billspiet@sympatico.ca> > > Add strength to staple holes? > The holes left by staples will not weaken your structure (unless you're > using WAY too many). Fillers typically are just that ... fillers. They will > fill the holes, and that's about it. Well, actually, if the filler is a > different color than the wood, then it may draw attention to them. > There really isn't much of the wood structure that is visible after > covering - just the cockpit areas. Probably not a problem worth spending too > much time on. > > Bill C. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333798#333798 > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:24 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Recommended Filler? From: "tdudley@umn.edu" Okay, not too smart a thread to add. Sorry. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333809#333809 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:42 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: She got legs Just where you plannin' on landing with those major mudder dirt track tires??? :-) Clif Yes indeed gents she's got legs and as of 4:30 pm on this say March 3, 2011, she got legs and she knows how to use them. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 03/12/11 ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:03 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Torque -V- HP You're welcome Michael. Another voyage of discovery is upon you. :-) Apparently Shubert gave Bernard one of his props to use on the Corvair Piet. B liked it so much that when Schubert contacted him to see how it was working B was afraid he wanted it back and didn't want to let it go. That story is back there in the archives somewhere. More than once, if memory serves. :-) Clif ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 11:44:52 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: steampunk Our beloved plane is the ultimate steampunk! 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