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1. 12:36 AM - Re: Jack's Moratorium is Almost Up (bubbleboy)
2. 01:43 AM - Re: Re: C85-8F (Jack)
3. 04:37 AM - Re: Re: C85-8F (Jack Phillips)
4. 05:11 AM - Re: Re: C85-8F (Charles Campbell)
5. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable also (helspersew@aol.com)
6. 05:35 AM - Corvair (Gboothe5)
7. 05:59 AM - Re: What a Day to Fly!! (airlion)
8. 05:59 AM - Unsafe at any Altitude (Jack Phillips)
9. 06:00 AM - Re: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable also (Gboothe5)
10. 06:38 AM - Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol (Pieti Lowell)
11. 06:42 AM - carb question (TriScout)
12. 06:52 AM - Re: carb question (Kip and Beth Gardner)
13. 06:53 AM - Re: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable also (TOM STINEMETZE)
14. 07:04 AM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (Jack Phillips)
15. 07:25 AM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (TOM STINEMETZE)
16. 07:44 AM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (Gboothe5)
17. 07:44 AM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (Jim Markle)
18. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (Jack)
19. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable also (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
20. 09:37 AM - Re: Corvair (Gboothe5)
21. 09:38 AM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (Jack Phillips)
22. 09:50 AM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (TOM STINEMETZE)
23. 09:54 AM - Great Plains VW conversion (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
24. 10:02 AM - Re: Corvair (Jack Phillips)
25. 10:26 AM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (Bill Church)
26. 10:39 AM - Re: Corvair (Gboothe5)
27. 10:46 AM - Re: Corvair (K5YAC)
28. 10:52 AM - Re: Corvair (Jack Phillips)
29. 11:24 AM - Re: Corvair (K5YAC)
30. 11:47 AM - Re: Re: Corvair (Jack Phillips)
31. 12:02 PM - Re: Corvair (K5YAC)
32. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: Corvair (Gboothe5)
33. 12:29 PM - Re: carb question (Jerry Dotson)
34. 12:36 PM - Continentals (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
35. 12:45 PM - stromberg carb (TGSTONE236@aol.com)
36. 12:47 PM - Re: Corvair (K5YAC)
37. 12:53 PM - Re: Continentals (Gboothe5)
38. 12:54 PM - Re: Re: Corvair (Gboothe5)
39. 12:58 PM - Re: Corvair (Bill Church)
40. 01:05 PM - Jack makes a good point about......... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
41. 01:11 PM - Re: Continentals (Jerry Dotson)
42. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: Corvair (Gboothe5)
43. 01:20 PM - Re: Corvair (K5YAC)
44. 01:23 PM - Re: stromberg carb (Ryan Mueller)
45. 01:45 PM - Leading Edge (Gboothe5)
46. 01:47 PM - These here fellers were breaking in this straight six for use...... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
47. 01:58 PM - Re: Jack makes a good point about......... (Darrel Jones)
48. 01:59 PM - Re: Leading Edge (Billy McCaskill)
49. 02:03 PM - why Pietenpol used auto engines (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
50. 02:15 PM - Grace (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
51. 02:24 PM - and as long as we are talking money (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
52. 02:59 PM - Re: Jack makes a good point about......... (Ryan Mueller)
53. 03:41 PM - Re: carb question (Charles Campbell)
54. 03:59 PM - Re: Jack makes a good point about......... (Charles Campbell)
55. 04:51 PM - Re: These here fellers were breaking in this straight six for use...... (Gboothe5)
56. 04:57 PM - Re: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable also (Rick Holland)
57. 05:06 PM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (Doug Dever)
58. 05:44 PM - Project for sale (olflyr45)
59. 06:06 PM - Re: Project for sale (Chad Hill)
60. 06:09 PM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (Ryan Mueller)
61. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: Continentals (airlion)
62. 06:54 PM - Re: Continentals (Jerry Dotson)
63. 07:01 PM - Re: carb question (TriScout)
64. 07:16 PM - Re: Re: Continentals (airlion)
65. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: ETHENOL IN NC (Greg Cardinal)
66. 08:37 PM - Re: and as long as we are talking money2 (jorge lizarraga)
67. 09:04 PM - Gascolator (Gboothe5)
68. 09:04 PM - Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude (John Hofmann)
69. 10:40 PM - Re: and as long as we are talking money2 (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
70. 11:11 PM - Re: Gascolator (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | Re: Jack's Moratorium is Almost Up |
In Australia we call that Bestiality and its illegal......
Do not archive [Laughing]
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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Great news Curt, congratulations!
Jack
DSM
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: C85-8F
Today I pulled two cylinders off to get a good look inside of my 1947
engine.
It was removed from a PA-11 back in 1983, pickled and stored. It has only
1300TT and 300SMOH. My IA friend was very excited by what he saw
inside. No apparent corrosion & everything was very tight. We checked a
few tolerances and they were within new specs. I put it back together with
a
sound mind about my acquisition. The only question he had for me was if
I wanted to put it back together and see if it would run. I thought we
should
wait till we look at everything on it.
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
Long Fuse, C85
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Great, Curt. Always good to see a new Pietenpol with something besides
Chevrolet's inadequate answer to the Volkswagon on its nose.
I had a C85-8F on my Cessna 140 several years ago and liked everything about
it but the generator. It was criminal to lug around a piece of equipment of
that weight that put out so few amps.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: C85-8F
Today I pulled two cylinders off to get a good look inside of my 1947
engine.
It was removed from a PA-11 back in 1983, pickled and stored. It has only
1300TT and 300SMOH. My IA friend was very excited by what he saw
inside. No apparent corrosion & everything was very tight. We checked a
few tolerances and they were within new specs. I put it back together with
a
sound mind about my acquisition. The only question he had for me was if
I wanted to put it back together and see if it would run. I thought we
should
wait till we look at everything on it.
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
Long Fuse, C85
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I guess the moratorium is over!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: C85-8F
> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> Great, Curt. Always good to see a new Pietenpol with something besides
> Chevrolet's inadequate answer to the Volkswagon on its nose.
>
> I had a C85-8F on my Cessna 140 several years ago and liked everything
> about
> it but the generator. It was criminal to lug around a piece of equipment
> of
> that weight that put out so few amps.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Raleigh, NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:56 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: C85-8F
>
>
> Today I pulled two cylinders off to get a good look inside of my 1947
> engine.
> It was removed from a PA-11 back in 1983, pickled and stored. It has only
> 1300TT and 300SMOH. My IA friend was very excited by what he saw
> inside. No apparent corrosion & everything was very tight. We checked a
> few tolerances and they were within new specs. I put it back together
> with
> a
> sound mind about my acquisition. The only question he had for me was if
> I wanted to put it back together and see if it would run. I thought we
> should
> wait till we look at everything on it.
>
> Curt Merdan
> Flower Mound, TX
> Long Fuse, C85
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334246#334246
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's |
prop-carving CD still avilable also
I need to protect my vast distribution network. And at that price it is wel
l worth the money!!
do not archive
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
-----Original Message-----
From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper'
s prop-carving CD still avilable also
com>
What? No fellow pieter discount?
-- On Wed, 3/16/11, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper
's
rop-carving CD still avilable also
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 7:15 PM
And while this thread has some lift left to it,
I'll unashamedly pile-on to to do some
self-promotion for myself, so I can selfishly profit from
the momentum. My instructional prop-carving
CD is still available from Aircraft Spruce http://www.aircraftspruce.com/c
atalog/bvpages/propellercarving.php.
This must be a good, professional product, otherwise ACS
would not be selling it, right?
Dan
Helsper
Puryear,
TN.
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Jack,
Your self-imposed 30-day moratorium on Corvair bashing appears to be over.
You offered this to me as a symbol of your appreciation for receiving some
tubing for your RV that I had as extra. You again prove yourself to be an
Honorable and Fair Minded Man! (not that that was ever in question)
A couple times you have expressed your reasons for dissatisfaction with the
Corvair Movement...everyone is entitled to an opinion. Let's assume that
Corvair could rise above such prejudice with pure success...just as flying
went from 'dare devil' to pure fun. Being fare-minded, if Corvair powered
a/c, with 5th bearing, could accumulate 1,000,000 hours free of crank
breakage, would you concede that they are a viable engine? I'm hoping you
would say, 'Yes', as any other response would be contrary to proven success.
The point being, it would be possible to get you, and any other like-minded
individual, to change his opinion.
Have you ever had the pleasure of attending a William Wynn Corvair College?
Or meeting him at events like SNF or Oshkosh? Corvair Colleges are free,
two-day events (weekends), held several times per year around the country,
with one coming up soon in your neighborhood! Being a Fair Minded Man, would
you avail yourself the opportunity to see why the Corvair should not be
judged based on misfortunes of a young man's ill-fated date?
Just wondering...
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 4:32 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: C85-8F
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Great, Curt. Always good to see a new Pietenpol with something besides
Chevrolet's inadequate answer to the Volkswagon on its nose.
I had a C85-8F on my Cessna 140 several years ago and liked everything about
it but the generator. It was criminal to lug around a piece of equipment of
that weight that put out so few amps.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: C85-8F
Today I pulled two cylinders off to get a good look inside of my 1947
engine.
It was removed from a PA-11 back in 1983, pickled and stored. It has only
1300TT and 300SMOH. My IA friend was very excited by what he saw
inside. No apparent corrosion & everything was very tight. We checked a
few tolerances and they were within new specs. I put it back together with
a
sound mind about my acquisition. The only question he had for me was if
I wanted to put it back together and see if it would run. I thought we
should
wait till we look at everything on it.
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
Long Fuse, C85
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Subject: | Re: What a Day to Fly!! |
Yes it is Jack., but don't get too close to the sun or your wax wings will melt.
I am heading to sun n fun next Saturday with a couple of Big Piets for a week.
Cheers, Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 8:15:32 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: What a Day to Fly!!
Today I did the annual spring Plane swap - flew the RV-4 from Raleigh to
Smith Mountain Lake (94 nm in 36 minutes = 156 knots or 180 mph), and then
brought the Pietenpol back (94 nm in 1 hour 46 minutes = 53.2 knots or 61
mph) to begin the spring Fly-in season this weekend. I had 79 F,
perfectly clear skies and 50 miles visibility, with surface winds light and
variable. Even made 2 nice 3-point landings (one in each airplane). It
just doesn't get any better than this!
Saturday I'll fly the Pietenpol into our monthly EAA Chapter meeting, then
fly it down to Carthage, NC, for lunch at the Pik 'n' Pig and the dedication
of a plaque to James McConnell, an early aviator from Carthage who fought
(and died) in the Lafayette Escadrille in The Great War. I'll keep the
Pietenpol here during most of April and attend a few fly-ins, then get it
back to Smith Mountain Lake in time for our fly-in there on April 30. In
May I'm supposed to have it on static dsiplay for the Lynchburg Airshow
which will be a pretty major airshow, complete with the Blue Angels
(http://www.lynchburgairshow.com/) . I don't know what June will bring, but
then the major event of the year will be flying to Brodhead for the
Pietenpol Reunion, along with that other Wisconsin Fly-in the following
week.
Life is good!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: | Unsafe at any Altitude |
Yep, I've bitten my tongue for 30 days without seriously disparaging the
Corvair as a psuedo aircraft engine.
I couldn't help but think about Corvairs yesterday as I flew my Pietenpol
over the hills and forests of the Piedmont of Virginia and North Carolina.
All I could think of was "Where would I be able to put it down if my
crankshaft broke?" Fortunately, I was flying behind a Continental.
As I've said before, if I lived in the midwest with thousands of potential
forced landing sites continuously available, I would probably put an auto
engine in my Pietenpol, but it would be a Model A Ford.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: C85-8F
<cncampbell@windstream.net>
I guess the moratorium is over!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: C85-8F
> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> Great, Curt. Always good to see a new Pietenpol with something besides
> Chevrolet's inadequate answer to the Volkswagon on its nose.
>
> I had a C85-8F on my Cessna 140 several years ago and liked everything
> about
> it but the generator. It was criminal to lug around a piece of equipment
> of
> that weight that put out so few amps.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Raleigh, NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:56 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: C85-8F
>
>
> Today I pulled two cylinders off to get a good look inside of my 1947
> engine.
> It was removed from a PA-11 back in 1983, pickled and stored. It has only
> 1300TT and 300SMOH. My IA friend was very excited by what he saw
> inside. No apparent corrosion & everything was very tight. We checked a
> few tolerances and they were within new specs. I put it back together
> with
> a
> sound mind about my acquisition. The only question he had for me was if
> I wanted to put it back together and see if it would run. I thought we
> should
> wait till we look at everything on it.
>
> Curt Merdan
> Flower Mound, TX
> Long Fuse, C85
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334246#334246
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's |
prop-carving CD still avilable also
I'll attest to that! The CD is well worth it, plus you get to bother Dan
with an incredible number of questions, and he never complains! My prop took
close to 40 hours (filing Hickory can be laborious). Since then, the engine
has run (without breaking a crank.even once!), but it did not have this prop
bolted on.
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's
prop-carving CD still avilable also
I need to protect my vast distribution network. And at that price it is well
worth the money!!
do not archive
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
-----Original Message-----
From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's
prop-carving CD still avilable also
<kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
What? No fellow pieter discount?
--- On Wed, 3/16/11, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan
Helsper's
prop-carving CD still avilable also
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 7:15 PM
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> I'll unashamedly pile-on to to do some
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> the momentum. My instructional prop-carving
> CD is still available from Aircraft Spruce
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/bvpages/propellercarving.php.
> This must be a good, professional product, otherwise ACS
> would not be selling it, right?
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Subject: | Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol |
I have a glass Piet wing tank that I will sell cheep, It started to leak when the
new ,better fuel was forced upon the people. Went to Aluminum, no problems,
when welded right.
Pieti Lowell
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Before I take carb off of engine,..I have an A65-8 w/Stromberg carb. I ran the
engine yesterday (runs good), but the throttle cable works backward. Is there
a way to rig the valve in said carb to work in the opposite direction?... my other
option would be to tear fabric off side of aircraft in order to put a different
throttle cable in...hate to do that. thx in advance..
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Subject: | Re: carb question |
I don't know if it would be considered good practice or not, but is it
possible to add linkage at the engine end of the throttle cable that
would reverse the direction of travel at the carb?
Kip Gardner
On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:39 AM, TriScout wrote:
> <apfelcyber@yahoo.com>
>
> Before I take carb off of engine,..I have an A65-8 w/Stromberg carb.
> I ran the engine yesterday (runs good), but the throttle cable works
> backward. Is there a way to rig the valve in said carb to work in
> the opposite direction?... my other option would be to tear fabric
> off side of aircraft in order to put a different throttle cable
> in...hate to do that. thx in advance..
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334273#334273
>
>
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Subject: | Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's |
prop-carving CD still avilable also
Thanks Gary. That photo is another great addition to my screensaver
slideshow.
Stinemetze
do not archive
>>> "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net> 3/18/2011 7:57 AM >>>
Ill attest to that! The CD is well worth it, plus you get to bother
Dan with an incredible number of questions, and he never complains! My
prop took close to 40 hours (filing Hickory can be laborious). Since
then, the engine has run (without breaking a crankeven once!), but it
did not have this prop bolted on.
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan
Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable also
I need to protect my vast distribution network. And at that price it is
well worth the money!!
do not archive
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
-----Original Message-----
From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan
Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable also--> Pietenpol-List message
posted by: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> What? No fellow
pieter discount? --- On Wed, 3/16/11, helspersew@aol.com
<helspersew@aol.com> wrote: > From: helspersew@aol.com
<helspersew@aol.com>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a
while ago....., Dan Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable also> To:
pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 7:15 PM>
> > > > > > And while this thread has some lift left to it,> I'll
unashamedly pile-on to to do some> self-promotion for myself, so I can
selfishly profit from> the momentum. My instructional prop-carving> CD
is still available from Aircraft Spruce
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/bvpages/propellercarving.php.>
This must be a good, professional product, otherwise ACS> would not be
selling it, right?> > > > > > > Dan> Helsper> > > Puryear,> TN.> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "
target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listp://forums.matronics.comblank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude |
Gary,
My moratorium on Corvair-Bashing was offered as a tribute to you and your
generosity for sending me the tubing (for which I'll happily repay you at
Brodhead with the beer and/or single malt scotch of your choice).
I do consider myself to be a reasonable man, and I admire people who are
willing to reconsider their views periodically, when there appears to be
some doubt about their original position (not that this condition applies in
this case). If and when Corvairs reach the level of reliability where they
can routinely operate for 1500 hours or more without requiring a major
overhaul, then I'll consider them a somewhat adequate aircraft engine.
However, expecting me to attend a Corvair College and suddenly become a
convert (what kind of kool-aid do they serve at these functions?) is like
expecting me to attend a RuPaul concert and suddenly come out of the closet
as a homosexual. It's just not very likely.
If a Corvair College were offered across the street from my house and my
grass didn't need mowing, I would probably attend.
I have not had the pleasure of meeting William Wynne, although I've seen him
and Grace at Brodhead and at Oshkosh. If nothing else, I admire his taste
in women. I believe him to truly be an expert on Corvair engines, and think
he knows what he's talking about. What amazes me are the people who hear
him say "You need to put the 5th bearing in" and choose to ignore this
advice.
The Corvair controversy will go on forever, just like the douglas fir /
sitka spruce discussion, or latex paint or any of a number of discussions.
This is one of the beauties of this airplane design, and this discussion
group.
I've just always believed that there is nothing so important, or so sacred,
that it can't be made fun of.
So carry on, Gary. Let me know when you are going to fly your Corvair
powered Pietenpol to Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
Jack,
Your self-imposed 30-day moratorium on Corvair bashing appears to be over.
You offered this to me as a symbol of your appreciation for receiving some
tubing for your RV that I had as extra. You again prove yourself to be an
Honorable and Fair Minded Man! (not that that was ever in question)
A couple times you have expressed your reasons for dissatisfaction with the
Corvair Movement...everyone is entitled to an opinion. Let's assume that
Corvair could rise above such prejudice with pure success...just as flying
went from 'dare devil' to pure fun. Being fare-minded, if Corvair powered
a/c, with 5th bearing, could accumulate 1,000,000 hours free of crank
breakage, would you concede that they are a viable engine? I'm hoping you
would say, 'Yes', as any other response would be contrary to proven success.
The point being, it would be possible to get you, and any other like-minded
individual, to change his opinion.
Have you ever had the pleasure of attending a William Wynn Corvair College?
Or meeting him at events like SNF or Oshkosh? Corvair Colleges are free,
two-day events (weekends), held several times per year around the country,
with one coming up soon in your neighborhood! Being a Fair Minded Man, would
you avail yourself the opportunity to see why the Corvair should not be
judged based on misfortunes of a young man's ill-fated date?
Just wondering...
Gary
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>>> "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> 3/18/2011 9:00 AM >>>
I've just always believed that there is nothing so important, or so
sacred,
that it can't be made fun of.
Jack:
This is truely an inspired, and inspiring, phylosophy that I can get
behind.
However, I just can't understand why you would want to be put on record
degrading the work of our most beloved and iconic leader - the Most Novel
and Revered BHP himself - who did the pioneering work on the Corvair
aircraft conversion. I shudder to think of him spinning in his grave with
no internet access available to steer you straight.
Tom Stinemetze
in blessed flat Kansas with emergency landing fields as far as the eye can
see
do not archive
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Subject: | Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude |
Fair enough! I'm all for making fun of stuff!
Gary
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Gary,
My moratorium on Corvair-Bashing was offered as a tribute to you and your
generosity for sending me the tubing (for which I'll happily repay you at
Brodhead with the beer and/or single malt scotch of your choice).
I do consider myself to be a reasonable man, and I admire people who are
willing to reconsider their views periodically, when there appears to be
some doubt about their original position (not that this condition applies in
this case). If and when Corvairs reach the level of reliability where they
can routinely operate for 1500 hours or more without requiring a major
overhaul, then I'll consider them a somewhat adequate aircraft engine.
However, expecting me to attend a Corvair College and suddenly become a
convert (what kind of kool-aid do they serve at these functions?) is like
expecting me to attend a RuPaul concert and suddenly come out of the closet
as a homosexual. It's just not very likely.
If a Corvair College were offered across the street from my house and my
grass didn't need mowing, I would probably attend.
I have not had the pleasure of meeting William Wynne, although I've seen him
and Grace at Brodhead and at Oshkosh. If nothing else, I admire his taste
in women. I believe him to truly be an expert on Corvair engines, and think
he knows what he's talking about. What amazes me are the people who hear
him say "You need to put the 5th bearing in" and choose to ignore this
advice.
The Corvair controversy will go on forever, just like the douglas fir /
sitka spruce discussion, or latex paint or any of a number of discussions.
This is one of the beauties of this airplane design, and this discussion
group.
I've just always believed that there is nothing so important, or so sacred,
that it can't be made fun of.
So carry on, Gary. Let me know when you are going to fly your Corvair
powered Pietenpol to Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
Jack,
Your self-imposed 30-day moratorium on Corvair bashing appears to be over.
You offered this to me as a symbol of your appreciation for receiving some
tubing for your RV that I had as extra. You again prove yourself to be an
Honorable and Fair Minded Man! (not that that was ever in question)
A couple times you have expressed your reasons for dissatisfaction with the
Corvair Movement...everyone is entitled to an opinion. Let's assume that
Corvair could rise above such prejudice with pure success...just as flying
went from 'dare devil' to pure fun. Being fare-minded, if Corvair powered
a/c, with 5th bearing, could accumulate 1,000,000 hours free of crank
breakage, would you concede that they are a viable engine? I'm hoping you
would say, 'Yes', as any other response would be contrary to proven success.
The point being, it would be possible to get you, and any other like-minded
individual, to change his opinion.
Have you ever had the pleasure of attending a William Wynn Corvair College?
Or meeting him at events like SNF or Oshkosh? Corvair Colleges are free,
two-day events (weekends), held several times per year around the country,
with one coming up soon in your neighborhood! Being a Fair Minded Man, would
you avail yourself the opportunity to see why the Corvair should not be
judged based on misfortunes of a young man's ill-fated date?
Just wondering...
Gary
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>However, expecting me to attend a Corvair College and suddenly become a
>convert (what kind of kool-aid do they serve at these functions?) is like
>expecting me to attend a RuPaul concert and suddenly come out of the closet
>as a homosexual. It's just not very likely.
And there's no reason for you to come out of the closet. That should remain a
personal issue.
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Subject: | Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude |
I knew Karen was a cover! She is too perfect!
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
>However, expecting me to attend a Corvair College and suddenly become a
>convert (what kind of kool-aid do they serve at these functions?) is like
>expecting me to attend a RuPaul concert and suddenly come out of the closet
>as a homosexual. It's just not very likely.
And there's no reason for you to come out of the closet. That should remain
a personal issue.
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Subject: | Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's |
prop-carving CD still avilable also
I have plans to purchase Dan's prop-carving CD and look forward to making a beautiful
prop! Wonder if my mighty prop can handle the 6 cylinder torque enhancing
power of my dependable corvair engine?.... Of course!
Ken H
Do not archive...
--- On Fri, 3/18/11, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's
prop-carving CD still avilable also
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 7:57 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ill
> attest to that! The CD is well worth it, plus you get
> to bother Dan with an incredible number of questions, and
> he never complains! My
> prop took close to 40 hours (filing Hickory can be
> laborious). Since then, the
> engine has run (without breaking a crankeven once!),
> but it did not have
> this prop bolted on.
>
>
>
>
> Gary
> Boothe
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com
>
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:15 AM
>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while
> ago....., Dan
> Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable
> also
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I
> need to protect my vast distribution network. And at that
> price
> it is well worth the money!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> do
> not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dan
> Helsper
>
>
>
>
>
> Puryear,
> TN.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original
> Message-----
>
> From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>
> Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:11 pm
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while
> ago....., Dan Helsper's
> prop-carving CD still avilable also
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
>
> What? No fellow pieter discount?
>
>
> --- On Wed, 3/16/11, helspersew@aol.com
> <helspersew@aol.com>
> wrote:
> > From: helspersew@aol.com
> <helspersew@aol.com>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I
> announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's
> prop-carving CD still avilable
> also> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011,
> 7:15 PM> > > > > > > And while this thread has some
> lift left to it,> I'll unashamedlypile-on
> to to do some> self-promotion for myself, so I
> can selfishly profit from> the momentum. My instructional
> prop-carving> CD is still availablefrom
> Aircraft Spruce http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/bvpages/propellercarving.php.> This must be a good, professional
> product, otherwise ACS> would not be selling it,
> right?> > > > > > > Dan> Helsper> > > Puryear,> TN.> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
>
>
>
> "
> target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listp://forums.matronics.comblank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
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Here is a reply from William Wynn concerning existing Corvair powered a/c:
"The high number that comes to mind is Tom Browns Pietenpol, finished in
1980 that has been flying since without any engine disassembly. It has about
1,450 hours. Part of what is impressive about this is the fact it predates
ARP rod bolts, stainless valves, 5th bearings, nitrided cranks and it may
very well have cast pistons.
The engines output in traditional Bernard Pietenpol form has a power output
of 70HP or so. Tom told me that he did not change the points in the
distributor for the first 19 years, (although he did clean them up from time
to time)
Engine built to our current stands are not only more powerful, but they
should last at least as long even at higher output per cubic inch. This
engine was assembled with care and operated intelligently. The timing was
set with a light; it was never allowed to detonate; it has an appropriate
prop that doesn't lug the engine. His conversion is a clone of the one
Bernard pioneered and debugged. He was not experimenting with new and
unknown ideas. All food for thought.."
1450 hours is pretty darn close to 1500. Be prepared to ".consider them a
somewhat adequate aircraft engine.".
BTW.Jack, this year at Brodhead, you really should ask WW for some cool aid.
It's good stuff!
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Gary,
My moratorium on Corvair-Bashing was offered as a tribute to you and your
generosity for sending me the tubing (for which I'll happily repay you at
Brodhead with the beer and/or single malt scotch of your choice).
I do consider myself to be a reasonable man, and I admire people who are
willing to reconsider their views periodically, when there appears to be
some doubt about their original position (not that this condition applies in
this case). If and when Corvairs reach the level of reliability where they
can routinely operate for 1500 hours or more without requiring a major
overhaul, then I'll consider them a somewhat adequate aircraft engine.
However, expecting me to attend a Corvair College and suddenly become a
convert (what kind of kool-aid do they serve at these functions?) is like
expecting me to attend a RuPaul concert and suddenly come out of the closet
as a homosexual. It's just not very likely.
If a Corvair College were offered across the street from my house and my
grass didn't need mowing, I would probably attend.
I have not had the pleasure of meeting William Wynne, although I've seen him
and Grace at Brodhead and at Oshkosh. If nothing else, I admire his taste
in women. I believe him to truly be an expert on Corvair engines, and think
he knows what he's talking about. What amazes me are the people who hear
him say "You need to put the 5th bearing in" and choose to ignore this
advice.
The Corvair controversy will go on forever, just like the douglas fir /
sitka spruce discussion, or latex paint or any of a number of discussions.
This is one of the beauties of this airplane design, and this discussion
group.
I've just always believed that there is nothing so important, or so sacred,
that it can't be made fun of.
So carry on, Gary. Let me know when you are going to fly your Corvair
powered Pietenpol to Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
Jack,
Your self-imposed 30-day moratorium on Corvair bashing appears to be over.
You offered this to me as a symbol of your appreciation for receiving some
tubing for your RV that I had as extra. You again prove yourself to be an
Honorable and Fair Minded Man! (not that that was ever in question)
A couple times you have expressed your reasons for dissatisfaction with the
Corvair Movement...everyone is entitled to an opinion. Let's assume that
Corvair could rise above such prejudice with pure success...just as flying
went from 'dare devil' to pure fun. Being fare-minded, if Corvair powered
a/c, with 5th bearing, could accumulate 1,000,000 hours free of crank
breakage, would you concede that they are a viable engine? I'm hoping you
would say, 'Yes', as any other response would be contrary to proven success.
The point being, it would be possible to get you, and any other like-minded
individual, to change his opinion.
Have you ever had the pleasure of attending a William Wynn Corvair College?
Or meeting him at events like SNF or Oshkosh? Corvair Colleges are free,
two-day events (weekends), held several times per year around the country,
with one coming up soon in your neighborhood! Being a Fair Minded Man, would
you avail yourself the opportunity to see why the Corvair should not be
judged based on misfortunes of a young man's ill-fated date?
Just wondering...
Gary
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Just remember that our beloved and iconic leader, the most Nobel and Revered
Bernard H Pietenpol, spent years developing the single seat Sky Scout to be
powered by of all things, a Model T engine. I note there are not a lot of
Sky Scouts flying today with Model T powerplants.
Pietenpol may have been a genius for designing airplanes, but like many
geniuses (genii?), he had some decidely peculiar ideas (like making a
Corvair engine fly). Remember his first fame came from making the Air
Camper fly on automotive power, after a famous aeronautical engineer said it
couldn't be done. He may have been trying to regain that glory with the
Corvair. Just because BHP did it does not necessarily mean that it was a
good idea.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
>>> "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> 3/18/2011 9:00 AM >>>
I've just always believed that there is nothing so important, or so sacred,
that it can't be made fun of.
Jack:
This is truely an inspired, and inspiring, phylosophy that I can get behind.
However, I just can't understand why you would want to be put on record
degrading the work of our most beloved and iconic leader - the Most Novel
and Revered BHP himself - who did the pioneering work on the Corvair
aircraft conversion. I shudder to think of him spinning in his grave with
no internet access available to steer you straight.
Tom Stinemetze
in blessed flat Kansas with emergency landing fields as far as the eye can
see
do not archive
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>>> "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> 3/18/2011 10:36 AM >>>
Just because BHP did it does not necessarily mean that it was a good idea.
OOoooo! Now you've done it! Nobody stand close to Jack for a while. I
can feel the electricity gathering.
Stinemetze
do not archive
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Subject: | Great Plains VW conversion |
Although I flew for four years behind an 1835 cc Great Plains kit engine I
was never very comfortable with it turning 3,100 rpm at cruise and knowing
that if I got
the prop too slow on final (wood core, carbon fiber encapsulated) it didn't
have enough inertia to keep the engine running, especially with the high c
ompression
of that engine so you had to use vigilance in that regard. Still a good e
ngine overall (if built up correctly according to the book by Steve Bennett
) but just never felt
comfortable in my gut flying behind it.
Sure was a blast to fly the Corby Starlet though. Like a little fighter j
et with a prop and you couldn't ask for better fuel economy. Premium auto
fuel, 120 mph cruise
at 3.5 gph.
Roundtrip from Cleveland to Chicago was 3 hours each way (6 hours by car) a
nd only cost $50 roundtrip at the time. (3 years ago)
Mike C.
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One squirrel does not a stew make
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:27 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
Here is a reply from William Wynn concerning existing Corvair powered a/c:
"The high number that comes to mind is Tom Browns Pietenpol, finished in
1980 that has been flying since without any engine disassembly. It has about
1,450 hours. Part of what is impressive about this is the fact it predates
ARP rod bolts, stainless valves, 5th bearings, nitrided cranks and it may
very well have cast pistons.
The engines output in traditional Bernard Pietenpol form has a power output
of 70HP or so. Tom told me that he did not change the points in the
distributor for the first 19 years, (although he did clean them up from time
to time)
Engine built to our current stands are not only more powerful, but they
should last at least as long even at higher output per cubic inch. This
engine was assembled with care and operated intelligently. The timing was
set with a light; it was never allowed to detonate; it has an appropriate
prop that doesn't lug the engine. His conversion is a clone of the one
Bernard pioneered and debugged. He was not experimenting with new and
unknown ideas. All food for thought.."
1450 hours is pretty darn close to 1500. Be prepared to ".consider them a
somewhat adequate aircraft engine.".
BTW.Jack, this year at Brodhead, you really should ask WW for some cool aid.
It's good stuff!
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Gary,
My moratorium on Corvair-Bashing was offered as a tribute to you and your
generosity for sending me the tubing (for which I'll happily repay you at
Brodhead with the beer and/or single malt scotch of your choice).
I do consider myself to be a reasonable man, and I admire people who are
willing to reconsider their views periodically, when there appears to be
some doubt about their original position (not that this condition applies in
this case). If and when Corvairs reach the level of reliability where they
can routinely operate for 1500 hours or more without requiring a major
overhaul, then I'll consider them a somewhat adequate aircraft engine.
However, expecting me to attend a Corvair College and suddenly become a
convert (what kind of kool-aid do they serve at these functions?) is like
expecting me to attend a RuPaul concert and suddenly come out of the closet
as a homosexual. It's just not very likely.
If a Corvair College were offered across the street from my house and my
grass didn't need mowing, I would probably attend.
I have not had the pleasure of meeting William Wynne, although I've seen him
and Grace at Brodhead and at Oshkosh. If nothing else, I admire his taste
in women. I believe him to truly be an expert on Corvair engines, and think
he knows what he's talking about. What amazes me are the people who hear
him say "You need to put the 5th bearing in" and choose to ignore this
advice.
The Corvair controversy will go on forever, just like the douglas fir /
sitka spruce discussion, or latex paint or any of a number of discussions.
This is one of the beauties of this airplane design, and this discussion
group.
I've just always believed that there is nothing so important, or so sacred,
that it can't be made fun of.
So carry on, Gary. Let me know when you are going to fly your Corvair
powered Pietenpol to Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
Jack,
Your self-imposed 30-day moratorium on Corvair bashing appears to be over.
You offered this to me as a symbol of your appreciation for receiving some
tubing for your RV that I had as extra. You again prove yourself to be an
Honorable and Fair Minded Man! (not that that was ever in question)
A couple times you have expressed your reasons for dissatisfaction with the
Corvair Movement...everyone is entitled to an opinion. Let's assume that
Corvair could rise above such prejudice with pure success...just as flying
went from 'dare devil' to pure fun. Being fare-minded, if Corvair powered
a/c, with 5th bearing, could accumulate 1,000,000 hours free of crank
breakage, would you concede that they are a viable engine? I'm hoping you
would say, 'Yes', as any other response would be contrary to proven success.
The point being, it would be possible to get you, and any other like-minded
individual, to change his opinion.
Have you ever had the pleasure of attending a William Wynn Corvair College?
Or meeting him at events like SNF or Oshkosh? Corvair Colleges are free,
two-day events (weekends), held several times per year around the country,
with one coming up soon in your neighborhood! Being a Fair Minded Man, would
you avail yourself the opportunity to see why the Corvair should not be
judged based on misfortunes of a young man's ill-fated date?
Just wondering...
Gary
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Kind of like that spar splice in the plans...
Live and learn.
BC
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I think, during their famous march, Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold would
have been happy with a one-squirrel stew.but that's being argumentative.
So..Let us not argue.Let us be fair.How many squirrels does it take to make
a stew? 2? 3? 1,000?
Gary
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
One squirrel does not a stew make
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:27 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
Here is a reply from William Wynn concerning existing Corvair powered a/c:
"The high number that comes to mind is Tom Browns Pietenpol, finished in
1980 that has been flying since without any engine disassembly. It has about
1,450 hours. Part of what is impressive about this is the fact it predates
ARP rod bolts, stainless valves, 5th bearings, nitrided cranks and it may
very well have cast pistons.
The engines output in traditional Bernard Pietenpol form has a power output
of 70HP or so. Tom told me that he did not change the points in the
distributor for the first 19 years, (although he did clean them up from time
to time)
Engine built to our current stands are not only more powerful, but they
should last at least as long even at higher output per cubic inch. This
engine was assembled with care and operated intelligently. The timing was
set with a light; it was never allowed to detonate; it has an appropriate
prop that doesn't lug the engine. His conversion is a clone of the one
Bernard pioneered and debugged. He was not experimenting with new and
unknown ideas. All food for thought.."
1450 hours is pretty darn close to 1500. Be prepared to ".consider them a
somewhat adequate aircraft engine.".
BTW.Jack, this year at Brodhead, you really should ask WW for some cool aid.
It's good stuff!
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Gary,
My moratorium on Corvair-Bashing was offered as a tribute to you and your
generosity for sending me the tubing (for which I'll happily repay you at
Brodhead with the beer and/or single malt scotch of your choice).
I do consider myself to be a reasonable man, and I admire people who are
willing to reconsider their views periodically, when there appears to be
some doubt about their original position (not that this condition applies in
this case). If and when Corvairs reach the level of reliability where they
can routinely operate for 1500 hours or more without requiring a major
overhaul, then I'll consider them a somewhat adequate aircraft engine.
However, expecting me to attend a Corvair College and suddenly become a
convert (what kind of kool-aid do they serve at these functions?) is like
expecting me to attend a RuPaul concert and suddenly come out of the closet
as a homosexual. It's just not very likely.
If a Corvair College were offered across the street from my house and my
grass didn't need mowing, I would probably attend.
I have not had the pleasure of meeting William Wynne, although I've seen him
and Grace at Brodhead and at Oshkosh. If nothing else, I admire his taste
in women. I believe him to truly be an expert on Corvair engines, and think
he knows what he's talking about. What amazes me are the people who hear
him say "You need to put the 5th bearing in" and choose to ignore this
advice.
The Corvair controversy will go on forever, just like the douglas fir /
sitka spruce discussion, or latex paint or any of a number of discussions.
This is one of the beauties of this airplane design, and this discussion
group.
I've just always believed that there is nothing so important, or so sacred,
that it can't be made fun of.
So carry on, Gary. Let me know when you are going to fly your Corvair
powered Pietenpol to Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
Jack,
Your self-imposed 30-day moratorium on Corvair bashing appears to be over.
You offered this to me as a symbol of your appreciation for receiving some
tubing for your RV that I had as extra. You again prove yourself to be an
Honorable and Fair Minded Man! (not that that was ever in question)
A couple times you have expressed your reasons for dissatisfaction with the
Corvair Movement...everyone is entitled to an opinion. Let's assume that
Corvair could rise above such prejudice with pure success...just as flying
went from 'dare devil' to pure fun. Being fare-minded, if Corvair powered
a/c, with 5th bearing, could accumulate 1,000,000 hours free of crank
breakage, would you concede that they are a viable engine? I'm hoping you
would say, 'Yes', as any other response would be contrary to proven success.
The point being, it would be possible to get you, and any other like-minded
individual, to change his opinion.
Have you ever had the pleasure of attending a William Wynn Corvair College?
Or meeting him at events like SNF or Oshkosh? Corvair Colleges are free,
two-day events (weekends), held several times per year around the country,
with one coming up soon in your neighborhood! Being a Fair Minded Man, would
you avail yourself the opportunity to see why the Corvair should not be
judged based on misfortunes of a young man's ill-fated date?
Just wondering...
Gary
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gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:
> So.Let us not argueLet us be fairHow many squirrels does it take to make a stew?
2? 3? 1,000?
>
> Gary
My guess would be... 1500. [Laughing]
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Depends on how many are eating the stew, or drinking the Kool-Aid.
For myself, if making a stew to serve 4 people, I've always figured on about
4 or 5 squirrels per person. Of course, you can substitute chicken but that
defeats the purpose of Squirrel Stew, which is to give you a reason to get
rid of squirrels.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
I think, during their famous march, Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold would
have been happy with a one-squirrel stew.but that's being argumentative.
So..Let us not argue.Let us be fair.How many squirrels does it take to make
a stew? 2? 3? 1,000?
Gary
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair
One squirrel does not a stew make
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Mark Chouinard
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Nuthin' there, Mark
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 2:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
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pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> Nuthin' there, Mark
Aww crap... you must be using the email list as an email list... ha! I think it
shows on the web.
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I couldn't see it either....thought you were speechless.
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> Nuthin' there, Mark
Aww crap... you must be using the email list as an email list... ha! I
think it shows on the web.
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Subject: | Re: carb question |
Can you rotate the carb 180 degrees? The lever would change sides and reverse operation.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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I don't know about other's experiences but in my 13 years of flying behind
my zero-timed A-65 Continental I have had to do MANY things
to keep it healthy but it has never skipped a beat or even coughed once....
.thank God BUT the bottom line is that over the years I have had
to replaced warped exhaust valves, grind out of round exhaust gas valve se
ats, replace worn piston rings, and just last year had to hone all
four cylinders and replace all of my rings with new Chromoly rings to the t
une of $600. (I originally had Chromolly rings during my MOH too).
I've had to keep up with making sure the timing is correct and do normal ma
intenance like oil and screen changes/ cleanings, replace the foam/oil
air filters, repair a cracked exhaust pipe with a new weld, re-torqe the pr
op as recommended with the manufacturers recommendations.
I have had to remove the prop hub assembly and bead blast it, zinc chromate
it, apply Continental Gold to it then clear coat it because it was startin
g
to rust.
All this to say that I only have 500 HOURS on that engine too so unless eve
ryone else just has better luck with Continentals that I do, there's no way
I could ever imagine any of these little jewels running to 1500 hours witho
ut needing some care and attention. That's just my personal experience-
your mileage may vary.
Mike C.
PS-but dollar for dollar I would much rather put my money on a Continental
than into a Corvair which from what I'm hearing doesn't save you any real
money over a Continental and in some cases costs more to do a top-notch ove
rhaul with in the end.
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THE STROMBERG THROTTLE LEVER ACCORDING TO STROMBERG SITTING IN PLANE IS
LOCATED
ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHEN THE LEVER IS PUSHED FORWARD IT IS FULL THROTTLE.
THAT IS THEIR
RECOMMENDATION.
TED STONE
CORVAIR PIET BUILDER
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really? Well that is weird... I can see it just fine in the web thread.
Nothing important... just the kool-aid guy saying "Oh Yeah!"
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I've got about $3,000 in mine + another $1,000 for an upcoming 5th bearing.
But, aside from the money, can you imagine the sense of excitement I had
when my Corvair fired up the first time?
'course, if it quits and drops me into the trees, it's going to take a D9 to
pull my foot out of my a__....
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:27 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Continentals
I don't know about other's experiences but in my 13 years of flying behind
my zero-timed A-65 Continental I have had to do MANY things
to keep it healthy but it has never skipped a beat or even coughed
once...thank God BUT the bottom line is that over the years I have had
to replaced warped exhaust valves, grind out of round exhaust gas valve
seats, replace worn piston rings, and just last year had to hone all
four cylinders and replace all of my rings with new Chromoly rings to the
tune of $600. (I originally had Chromolly rings during my MOH too).
I've had to keep up with making sure the timing is correct and do normal
maintenance like oil and screen changes/ cleanings, replace the foam/oil
air filters, repair a cracked exhaust pipe with a new weld, re-torqe the
prop as recommended with the manufacturers recommendations.
I have had to remove the prop hub assembly and bead blast it, zinc chromate
it, apply Continental Gold to it then clear coat it because it was starting
to rust.
All this to say that I only have 500 HOURS on that engine too so unless
everyone else just has better luck with Continentals that I do, there's no
way
I could ever imagine any of these little jewels running to 1500 hours
without needing some care and attention. That's just my personal
experience-
your mileage may vary.
Mike C.
PS-but dollar for dollar I would much rather put my money on a Continental
than into a Corvair which from what I'm hearing doesn't save you any real
money over a Continental and in some cases costs more to do a top-notch
overhaul with in the end.
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Sorry I missed that! That wasn't the kool-aid guy....that was me.
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
really? Well that is weird... I can see it just fine in the web thread.
Nothing important... just the kool-aid guy saying "Oh Yeah!"
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That IS weird. The image of the Kool-Aid guy came through fine on the Forum.
But a couple of days ago, Gary's post about Ivan and the Flitzer List didn't have
any image attached, but the message referred to a photo.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t229
And Jack's post about What a Day to Fly had a file attached that wouldn't open
(winmail.dat), yet Gary was able to view it.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t230
??????
BC
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Subject: | Jack makes a good point about......... |
William Wynne's taste in women. And Grace is VERY nice and TAILWHEEL pil
ot who owns a Luscombe with a.........CONTINETAL engine
in it.....just sayin'. And she does AEROBATICS in it too !
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
>list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
>Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 3:23 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
>
>
>I couldn't see it either....thought you were speechless.
>
>Gary
>
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>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
>Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:00 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
>
>
>
>pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
>> Nuthin' there, Mark
>
>
>Aww crap... you must be using the email list as an email list... ha! I
>think it shows on the web.
>
>--------
>Mark Chouinard
>Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334311#334311
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Continentals |
Mike I had about the same experience as you with my Luscombe A-65. I kept a spare
cylinder and piston ready to install under my bed! I put 1200 hours on it with
several jugs pulled over time. Do you have inter-cylinder baffles on your
Piet?
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59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
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using Lycoming O-235
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
That IS weird. The image of the Kool-Aid guy came through fine on the Forum.
But a couple of days ago, Gary's post about Ivan and the Flitzer List didn't
have any image attached, but the message referred to a photo.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t229
And Jack's post about What a Day to Fly had a file attached that wouldn't
open (winmail.dat), yet Gary was able to view it.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t230
??????
BC
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Bill Church wrote:
> And Jack's post about What a Day to Fly had a file attached that wouldn't open
(winmail.dat), yet Gary was able to view it.
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t230
>
Yep, same here... I couldn't see that one either.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: stromberg carb |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCVHpnixj88
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=caps+lock+key
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:42 PM, <TGSTONE236@aol.com> wrote:
> THE STROMBERG THROTTLE LEVER ACCORDING TO STROMBERG SITTING IN PLANE IS
> LOCATED
>
> ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHEN THE LEVER IS PUSHED FORWARD IT IS FULL THROTTLE.
> THAT IS THEIR
>
> RECOMMENDATION.
>
> TED STONE
>
> CORVAIR PIET BUILDER
>
>
> *
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> *
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Lest anyone think that all I do is defend the Corvair Movement from the
Kracken=85
A couple weeks ago I was visiting Chris Tracy and noticed that he had
used a
half-round bit to rabbit out the back side of his leading edges. He made
matching male pieces which he located on the front of the ribs,
perfectly
locating the leading edges, providing extra glue surface, lightening the
piece of wood (Poplar!!), and generally impressing the heck out of me.
At
the time, I thought that was way too much unnecessary work, but my
leading
edges went together nicely and I landed on an easy method to do
something
similar=85
Mine have a square rabbit, 3/8=94 x =BD=94, that has a corresponding
locator glued
to the ribs. I don=92t know how Chris located his pieces, but mine are
done
with one long piece, epoxied to all the ribs at once, then cut out one
by
one with a back saw (that=92s what I have been doing today, in between
counter
attacks on the Kracken). Oh=85did I say=85my leading edges are Poplar,
too=85
Gary Boothe
Go Corvair
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Subject: | These here fellers were breaking in this straight six |
for use......
In a Pietenpol ! Glad they ground ran it first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5fFh31Ejmk&feature=related
Bubba and Hank were pushing that baby pretty hard. :)
KIDDING !
Do not archive
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Jack makes a good point about......... |
I thought Grace had a Taylorcraft.
Darrel Jones
On 3/18/2011 1:02 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
wrote:
> William Wynne's taste in women. And Grace is VERY nice and
> TAILWHEEL pilot who owns a Luscombe with a.........CONTINETAL engine
> in it.....just sayin'. And she does AEROBATICS in it too !
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
> >list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
> >Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 3:23 PM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
> >
> >
> >I couldn't see it either....thought you were speechless.
> >
> >Gary
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
> >Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:00 PM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
> >
> >
> >
> >pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> >> Nuthin' there, Mark
> >
> >
> >Aww crap... you must be using the email list as an email list... ha! I
> >think it shows on the web.
> >
> >--------
> >Mark Chouinard
> >Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Read this topic online here:
> >
> >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334311#334311
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Subject: | Re: Leading Edge |
Nicely done, Gary! I like how it positively locates the leading edge material,
and looks like it's fairly easy to do.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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Subject: | why Pietenpol used auto engines |
Bernard used auto engines because he was a Ford Auto Mechanic at the time h
e was developing the Pietenpol Scout and Aircamper and he could get the eng
ines cheaply if not for free. It was cost that drove Pietenpol to use au
to engines and replacement parts were readily available and cheap during th
e Great Depression.
Also because Bernard was very frugal. Same reasons he used the Corvair.
It was cheap. Simple as that.
And don't even get me started on Rotax engines. They are not only VERY ex
pensive but the TBO isn't very good either and to overhaul them is pricey.
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I think you're right---- she has/ or had a Taylorcraft....which also sports a Continental
:)
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Subject: | and as long as we are talking money |
This whole new line of Sport Pilot LSA airplanes intended to make Sport Pil
ot flying more affordable is the BIGGEST crock of horse crap that ever
hit the aviation world. Only the RICH can afford these things and Cessn
a can't even seem to keep their new version of the 150, The Skycatcher in
the air. You can have one for only $112,250.
And for the price of that 81 hp Rotax engine ($19,470) you could just add a
nother $7,000 and buy this FOUR SEAT Cherokee that I IFR Certified
with a 150 hp aircraft engine in it with intercom, no damage history and so
me nice looking wheel pants.
No wonder people are building Pietenpols. Viva La Pietenpol Air Camper
!
Mike C.
And heck, you can even buy a decent Cessna 150 for about $15,000 out there
with an 0-200 engine.
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Subject: | Re: Jack makes a good point about......... |
You are correct....
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com> wrote:
> I thought Grace had a Taylorcraft.
>
> Darrel Jones
>
>
> On 3/18/2011 1:02 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
> wrote:
>
> William Wynne=92s taste in women. And Grace is VERY nice and TAILWHEE
L
> pilot who owns a Luscombe with a=85=85=85CONTINETAL engine
> in it=85..just sayin=92. And she does AEROBATICS in it too !
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
<owner-pietenpol->
> >list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
> >Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 3:23 PM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
> >
gboothe5@comcast.net>
> >
> >I couldn't see it either....thought you were speechless.
> >
> >Gary
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com<owner-pietenpol-list-s
erver@matronics.com>]
> On Behalf Of K5YAC
> >Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:00 PM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
> >
0@cox.net>
> >
> >
> >pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> >> Nuthin' there, Mark
> >
> >
> >Aww crap... you must be using the email list as an email list... ha! I
> >think it shows on the web.
> >
> >--------
> >Mark Chouinard
> >Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Read this topic online here:
> >
> >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334311#334311
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Subject: | Re: carb question |
I really don't know whether this would even be possible, but how about just
turning the carb around 180 degrees -- that would make the throttle lever
move to low power when you pull the lever back and to high power with the
lever pushed forward. Would that work?
----- Original Message -----
From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:39 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: carb question
>
> Before I take carb off of engine,..I have an A65-8 w/Stromberg carb. I ran
> the engine yesterday (runs good), but the throttle cable works backward.
> Is there a way to rig the valve in said carb to work in the opposite
> direction?... my other option would be to tear fabric off side of aircraft
> in order to put a different throttle cable in...hate to do that. thx in
> advance..
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Jack makes a good point about......... |
I believe you'll find that Grace has a Taylorcraft.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jack makes a good point about.........
William Wynne's taste in women. And Grace is VERY nice and
TAILWHEEL pilot who owns a Luscombe with a...CONTINETAL engine
in it...just sayin'. And she does AEROBATICS in it too !
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-
>list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
>Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 3:23 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
>
<gboothe5@comcast.net>
>
>I couldn't see it either....thought you were speechless.
>
>Gary
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
>Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:00 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
>
>
>
>pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
>> Nuthin' there, Mark
>
>
>Aww crap... you must be using the email list as an email list... ha!
I
>think it shows on the web.
>
>--------
>Mark Chouinard
>Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334311#334311
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Subject: | These here fellers were breaking in this straight |
six for use......
That's my favorite song, too!
Gary
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 1:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: These here fellers were breaking in this straight
six for use......
In a Pietenpol ! Glad they ground ran it first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5fFh31Ejmk
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5fFh31Ejmk&feature=related>
&feature=related
Bubba and Hank were pushing that baby pretty hard. J
KIDDING !
Do not archive
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's prop-carving |
CD still avilable also
As Jack would say, "It'll handle it till the crank breaks"
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:12 AM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
<kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>wrote:
> kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
>
> I have plans to purchase Dan's prop-carving CD and look forward to making
a
> beautiful prop! Wonder if my mighty prop can handle the 6 cylinder torque
> enhancing power of my dependable corvair engine?.... Of course!
>
> Ken H
>
> Do not archive...
>
>
> --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
> > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago....., Dan
> Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable also
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 7:57 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I=92ll
> > attest to that! The CD is well worth it, plus you get
> > to bother Dan with an incredible number of questions, and
> > he never complains! My
> > prop took close to 40 hours (filing Hickory can be
> > laborious). Since then, the
> > engine has run (without breaking a crank=85even once!),
> > but it did not have
> > this prop bolted on.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary
> > Boothe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On
> > Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com
> >
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:15 AM
> >
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while
> > ago....., Dan
> > Helsper's prop-carving CD still avilable
> > also
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I
> > need to protect my vast distribution network. And at that
> > price
> > it is well worth the money!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > do
> > not archive
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dan
> > Helsper
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Puryear,
> > TN.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original
> > Message-----
> >
> > From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
> >
> > To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> >
> > Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 2:11 pm
> >
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while
> > ago....., Dan Helsper's
> > prop-carving CD still avilable also
> >
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> > by: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
> >
> > What? No fellow pieter discount?
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 3/16/11, helspersew@aol.com
> > <helspersew@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> > > From: helspersew@aol.com
> > <helspersew@aol.com>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I
> > announced a while ago....., Dan Helsper's
> > prop-carving CD still avilable
> > also> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011
,
> > 7:15 PM> > > > > > > And while this thread has some
> > lift left to it,> I'll unashamedly pile-on
> > to to do some> self-promotion for myself, so I
> > can selfishly profit from> the momentum. My instructional
> > prop-carving> CD is still available from
> > Aircraft Spruce
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/bvpages/propellercarving.php.> This
> must be a good, professional
> > product, otherwise ACS> would not be selling it,
> > right?> > > > > > > Dan> Helsper> > > Puryear,> TN.> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "
> > target=_blank>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listp://forums.matronics.com
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"A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"
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Subject: | Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude |
Lets not forget that the Ford is the only automotive powerplant that was FA
A (CAA) Certificated in a production airplane. I'm just sayin'.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
Just remember that our beloved and iconic leader=2C the most Nobel and Reve
red Bernard H Pietenpol=2C spent years developing the single seat Sky Scout
to be powered by of all things=2C a Model T engine. I note there are not
a lot of Sky Scouts flying today with Model T powerplants.
Pietenpol may have been a genius for designing airplanes=2C but like many g
eniuses (genii?)=2C he had some decidely peculiar ideas (like making a Corv
air engine fly). Remember his first fame came from making the Air Camper f
ly on automotive power=2C after a famous aeronautical engineer said it coul
dn=92t be done. He may have been trying to regain that glory with the Corv
air. Just because BHP did it does not necessarily mean that it was a good
idea.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh=2C NC
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE
Sent: Friday=2C March 18=2C 2011 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
>>> "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> 3/18/2011 9:00 AM >>>
I've just always believed that there is nothing so important=2C or so sacre
d=2C
that it can't be made fun of.
Jack:
This is truely an inspired=2C and inspiring=2C phylosophy that I can get be
hind.
However=2C I just can't understand why you would want to be put on record d
egrading the work of our most beloved and iconic leader - the Most Novel an
d Revered BHP himself - who did the pioneering work on the Corvair aircraft
conversion. I shudder to think of him spinning in his grave with no inter
net access available to steer you straight.
Tom Stinemetze
in blessed flat Kansas with emergency landing fields as far as the eye can
see
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Subject: | Project for sale |
Pietenpol fully assembled and has been flying. For sale less firewall forward.
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Subject: | Re: Project for sale |
How much and do you have photos?
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Subject: | Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude |
Well, almost.....I'm just sayin'...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thielert_Centurion
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Doug Dever <chiefpepperhead@hotmail.com>wr
ote:
> Lets not forget that the Ford is the only automotive powerplant that was
> FAA (CAA) Certificated in a production airplane. I'm just sayin'.
>
> Doug Dever
> In beautiful Stow Ohio
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:36:03 -0400
>
> Just remember that our beloved and iconic leader, the most Nobel and
> Revered Bernard H Pietenpol, spent years developing the single seat Sky
> Scout to be powered by of all things, a Model T engine. I note there are
> not a lot of Sky Scouts flying today with Model T powerplants.
>
> Pietenpol may have been a genius for designing airplanes, but like many
> geniuses (genii?), he had some decidely peculiar ideas (like making a
> Corvair engine fly). Remember his first fame came from making the Air
> Camper fly on automotive power, after a famous aeronautical engineer said
it
> couldn=92t be done. He may have been trying to regain that glory with th
e
> Corvair. Just because BHP did it does not necessarily mean that it was a
> good idea.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *TOM STINEMETZE
> *Sent:* Friday, March 18, 2011 10:23 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
>
>
> >>> "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> 3/18/2011 9:00 AM >>>
> I've just always believed that there is nothing so important, or so sacre
d,
> that it can't be made fun of.
>
>
> *Jack:*
>
>
> *This is truely an inspired, and inspiring, phylosophy that I can get
> behind. *
>
> *However, I just can't understand why you would want to be put on record
> degrading the work of our most beloved and iconic leader - the Most Novel
> and Revered BHP himself - who did the pioneering work on the Corvair
> aircraft conversion. I shudder to think of him spinning in his grave wit
h
> no internet access available to steer you straight.*
>
>
> *Tom Stinemetze*
>
> *in blessed flat Kansas with emergency landing fields as far as the eye
> can see*
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Subject: | Re: Continentals |
Jerry, my corvair has baffles between the cylinders. Are you going to sun n fun?
Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>
Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 4:09:32 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Continentals
Mike I had about the same experience as you with my Luscombe A-65. I kept a
spare cylinder and piston ready to install under my bed! I put 1200 hours on it
with several jugs pulled over time. Do you have inter-cylinder baffles on your
Piet?
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | Re: Continentals |
Gardiner I would love to go. I have been having health problems(heart) and I am
going to stay close to home for a while. I sure would like to see your Piet again.
Maybe Evergreen???
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | Re: carb question |
I think I have a fix. The previous owner said to loosen screw on throttle arm (at
carb), pop it off and position it on top, then twist or bend as needed. I did
just that and it seems to work just fine...same travel each direction. Who
would've thought it was that simple. Thanks for your inputs.
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Subject: | Re: Continentals |
Sorry to hear about your problem Jerry. What kind of strip do you have in Baker
Fl? I may decide to stop over on my way back. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>
Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 9:52:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Continentals
Gardiner I would love to go. I have been having health problems(heart) and I am
going to stay close to home for a while. I sure would like to see your Piet
again. Maybe Evergreen???
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | Re: ETHENOL IN NC |
Another good resource is Street Rod Association.
The Minnesota Street Rod Association publishes a good list of gas stations
that sell non-oxygenated fuel.
http://www.msra.com/NonOxygenatedFuel/NonOxyMarch2011.pdf
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: ETHENOL IN NC
> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Here's a handy website that lists gas stations that DO NOT have ethanol
> mixed with their gas.
> http://pure-gas.org/
> The lists are updated by the users. If you know of a station that offers
> ethanol-free gas, you can add it to the list. Conversely, if you know of a
> station that no longer offers ethanol-free gas, you can take them off the
> list. Just click on the state or province you want to know about, and get
> a list of stations that serve ethanol-free gas.
> I just checked for NC, since that state was specifically mentioned, and
> Wilmington has 4 stations listed, and Winston-Salem only has 2.
> NC is one of the many states that DO NOT require the pumps to be labeled
> if ethanol is added to the gas, according to this website:
> http://www.fuel-testers.com/state_guide_ethanol_laws.html
>
> Bill C.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: and as long as we are talking money2 |
like allways=C2- your all right mike tanks good we have pietenpol and yes
viva los pietenpol paraciempre seyou jorge from hanford
--- On Fri, 3/18/11, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] <micha
el.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.g
ov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: and as long as we are talking money
This whole new line of Sport Pilot LSA airplanes intended to make Sport Pil
ot flying more affordable is the BIGGEST crock of horse crap that ever
hit the aviation world.=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Only the RICH can afford th
ese things and Cessna can=99t even seem to keep their new version of
the 150, The Skycatcher in
the air.=C2-=C2-=C2- You can have one for only $112,250.
=C2-
And for the price of that 81 hp Rotax engine ($19,470) you could just add a
nother $7,000 and buy this FOUR SEAT Cherokee that I IFR Certified
with a 150 hp aircraft engine in it with intercom, no damage history and so
me nice looking wheel pants.
=C2-
No wonder people are building Pietenpols.=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Viva La P
ietenpol Air Camper !
=C2-
Mike C.
=C2-
And heck, you can even buy a decent Cessna 150 for about $15,000 out there
with an 0-200 engine.=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-=0A=0A=0A
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Can someone tell me how these get mounted?
Gary Boothe
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Subject: | Re: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude |
Not to mention this one.
http://www.mooneypfm.com/
do not archive
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> Well, almost.....I'm just sayin'...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thielert_Centurion
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Doug Dever
<chiefpepperhead@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lets not forget that the Ford is the only automotive powerplant that
was FAA (CAA) Certificated in a production airplane. I'm just sayin'.
>
> Doug Dever
> In beautiful Stow Ohio
>
>
>
>
> From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:36:03 -0400
>
> Just remember that our beloved and iconic leader, the most Nobel and
Revered Bernard H Pietenpol, spent years developing the single seat Sky
Scout to be powered by of all things, a Model T engine. I note there
are not a lot of Sky Scouts flying today with Model T powerplants.
>
> Pietenpol may have been a genius for designing airplanes, but like
many geniuses (genii?), he had some decidely peculiar ideas (like making
a Corvair engine fly). Remember his first fame came from making the Air
Camper fly on automotive power, after a famous aeronautical engineer
said it couldn=92t be done. He may have been trying to regain that
glory with the Corvair. Just because BHP did it does not necessarily
mean that it was a good idea.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 10:23 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair - Unsafe at any Altitude
>
> >>> "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> 3/18/2011 9:00 AM >>>
> I've just always believed that there is nothing so important, or so
sacred,
> that it can't be made fun of.
>
> Jack:
>
> This is truely an inspired, and inspiring, phylosophy that I can get
behind.
> However, I just can't understand why you would want to be put on
record degrading the work of our most beloved and iconic leader - the
Most Novel and Revered BHP himself - who did the pioneering work on the
Corvair aircraft conversion. I shudder to think of him spinning in his
grave with no internet access available to steer you straight.
>
> Tom Stinemetze
> in blessed flat Kansas with emergency landing fields as far as the eye
can see
>
> do not archive
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
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Subject: | and as long as we are talking money2 |
So GOOD to see you back on the Pietenpol list Jorge ! I missed seeing your posts.
You are so right------we have a great group of guys both
building, flying, and passionate about Pietenpols. Viva La Pietenpol !
Mike C.
don't disconcert the masses son....
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You make your own U bracket that has holes in the
arms that the pipe fittings go through.
Clif
Can someone tell me how these get mounted?
Gary Boothe
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