Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/22/11


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:07 AM - Fw: A PILOT GETS HOME LATE.... (Charles Campbell)
     2. 03:29 AM - Re: Meetings (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
     3. 04:57 AM - The Last Original (Gboothe5)
     4. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Re: Rudder Bar Post (Michael Perez)
     5. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Rudder Bar Post (Jack)
     6. 01:28 PM - Re: A PILOT GETS HOME LATE.... (GliderMike)
     7. 06:50 PM - Father's Day Weekend piet fly-in (shad bell)
     8. 07:09 PM - Pietenpol wooden landing gear (Larry V)
     9. 07:27 PM - Re: Pietenpol wooden landing gear (Chris)
    10. 08:03 PM - Re: Pietenpol wooden landing gear;dimention2 (jorge lizarraga)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:07:56 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Fw: A PILOT GETS HOME LATE....
    I'm probably not supposed to do this, but this one is good enough for the list. Do not archive Subject: A PILOT GETS HOME LATE.... A PILOT GETS HOME LATE.... He left home about 8:30 a.m. to do some work in his hangar at the airport with his friends. On the way out the door he answered his wife's "what time will you be home?" question with "probably about 1:30, I'll have lunch at the airport." 1:30 came & went, 3:00 passed, 6:15, still not home, finally at about 7:00 pm he rolls in the driveway, and presents his wife with a pizza and begins the apologetic story: "I finished cleaning the plane about 11:30, had lunch, and I started home, when alongside the road I saw this attractive girl with a flat tire on her car. I stopped to help, got the tire changed, and looked around for a place to wash my hands. She offered money, but I refused, so she suggested that I at least allow her to buy me a beer. She said there's a tavern just up the road, and they have a restroom, you can clean up a bit. I agreed to stop, we had a beer, then another beer, then a couple more, and I realized that this girl was not only pretty, she was very friendly, and a good companion to spend time with. Before I knew it, we were having a rendezvous in the motel next door. And that is why I am so late getting home." His wife looked him right in the eye and said, "Don't lie to me, you SOB, you went flying didn't you?!!!


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    Time: 03:29:56 AM PST US
    From: "Amsafetyc@gmail.com" <amsafetyc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Meetings
    Clearwater florida Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 02:18:35 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Meetings Johan are you back in Cleveland? That picture looks familiar somehow Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC Do Not Archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Amsafetyc@gmail.com Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Meetings Meetings going as well as can be expected. Working through the issues as they come its a tough job but some body has to do it Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless


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    Time: 04:57:17 AM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: The Last Original
    Last week, someone brought up the Last Original and Mr. Pietenpol's possible thought processes for using the Corvair engine. This is a related post by William Wynne, this morning on the Corvair List: Friends, Some more information about the long term durability of our favorite engine: One of the best known Corvair powered planes in the world is "The last Original", N899H, which was the last Aircamper built by Bernard Pietenpol. It was finished in the mid 1970s. It is significant because there is a fairy good argument that since it was the last of about 20 he built, it is the most distilled and refined of them all. While most of the historically important aircraft in the world are collecting dust in museums, This aircraft can still be seen in its natural element. It is owned by Bill Knight and based in Brodhead Wisconsin. A few years ago Grace and Tom Brown took it out for a flight, one of Graces favorite days in aviation. Get a look at the second photo down here: http://www.flycorvair.com/piet.html Bill knight has spent the last year committed to a full restoration of the plane so that it can continue to be flown and appreciated. Part of this is sending the engine to Mark Petz at Falcon to be completely overhauled internally, but remain externally identical to the last season Bernard flew it. The engine is a 1967 95HP, almost completely stock including cast pistons and original single ignition. It has always been fitted with a prop which wisely allowed it to turn up a static of more than 2800. I would guess its output to be about 75 or 80 HP. The engine arrived at Marks place with 800 hours on it. It had never had any work done on it Mark said that it had a mint condition crankshaft and many of the internal parts looked like new. The cylinders we not worn, but they had suffered some corrosion pitting on 2 cylinders. This is most likely the result of the planes sitting for a long time with the exhaust uncorked. The combustion chambers were filled with lead in giant gray flakes, like most planes that run on 100LL continuously. Either way, Bill said the engine still ran great when I spoke with him on the phone. His only goal was to take advantage of advances in Corvair building gained in the last 35 years. Mark is a night owl, and I spoke with him between 1 and 2 am last week while he was working in his shop. He had a lot of interesting things to say about the details inside the engine. He has been working with engines long enough to be able to see things that most other people would miss while disassembling the last engine built by the man widely considered to be the patron saint of automotive engines, affordable homebuilding and the concept that aviation is not a spectator sport, even if you are a young man living in rural America during the depression. Mark and I made a pilgrimage to Bernard's home town, Cherry Grove Minnesota, last summer. You can get a look at the story at this link: http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar0810.html (It is the last third of the link, under the heading "The long trip home.") The engine is a real cherished artifact of aviation history to me, and an very good example of how lasting Bernard's efforts have been. He has been gone for more than 25 years, yet people as far away as Australia are building his design today. (Welcome to Phil Ridgway down under) Going into the engine and removing bolts that were last tightened by his hand decades ago is a chance to look at what Bernard was thinking as he worked on his Corvair engine in his small shop, the exact same thing that many builders on this list did last night. It is 6:30 am now. I got up to let the dog out an hour ago. At this time one week from today, I will be drinking coffee and getting started at the first Day of Sun N Fun 2011. It will be my 23rd consecutive year there. It is kind of the kick off of the year in homebuilding. For us, the season will not close until we are headed home after Corvair College #21, which will be held in Barnwell SC in November. It already has the feeling of a great year, but I really like the idea that it is an adventure that is undefined, unwritten, unknown at this point. For all the things that we all have to do in our lives, I savor the idea that what the year in aviation hold for each of us is an unwritten story, something completely up to each of us. I wanted to say that I thought that Jon Gougar's words on his experience in risk management were some of most moving I have read in a long time. In a world where we are bombarded with information overload, I guy who 95% of the people on this list are yet to meet, sits at a keyboard and types a few sparing sentences that let the rest of us get a look at the real burdens a man of responsibility bears in looking after people in his care. I write about risk management, and I do care about people, but distance and the fact I can't control what people choose to do affords me emotional armor plating compared to men like Jon who has to deal with consequences directly. The difference is a mile wide. Jon and others in his position have my profound respect. Thank you. William Wynne Gary Boothe


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    Time: 07:14:03 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Rudder Bar Post
    I believe you may be referring to the purge lines I used to purge the inside of the bar while welding it. Not necessary if the bar is 4130. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 10:11:07 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Rudder Bar Post
    Exactly, thanks Michael. Jack DSM Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:07 AM Subject: RE: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Bar Post I believe you may be referring to the purge lines I used to purge the inside of the bar while welding it. Not necessary if the bar is 4130. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 01:28:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A PILOT GETS HOME LATE....
    From: "GliderMike" <glidermikeg@yahoo.com>
    I think I've heard a variation of this story before, but it is still funny. :D I think pilots are the only people that a story like this might could actually happen. do not archive -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334721#334721


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    Time: 06:50:01 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Father's Day Weekend piet fly-in
    Hello Guys and Gals, Just trying to get a head count for the Ohio Pietenpol fly-in here at OH71 in Centerburg, Ohio.- It will be on Saturday June 18 th.- If anyone wants to tent camp they are welcome to.- I need to start the planning so I can get food, drinks, port-o-john etc lined up.- It wi ll be a-pot luck style afair, with a donation jar to help cover the cost of hot dogs, port-o-john etc.- Please let me know if you would like to at tend.- - Shad=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:09:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Pietenpol wooden landing gear
    From: "Larry V" <larryvangerven@hotmail.com>
    Hello I was wondering if any one could tell me the dimensions of the spruce stock for wooden landing gear on the pietenpol . Plans in the original book show lengths and angles , thickness but I cannot find the width . Thanks Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334734#334734


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    Time: 07:27:06 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Pietenpol wooden landing gear
    Larry 2.5 x 1 inch spruce. It's in the front view drawing. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry V Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:07 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol wooden landing gear --> <larryvangerven@hotmail.com> Hello I was wondering if any one could tell me the dimensions of the spruce stock for wooden landing gear on the pietenpol . Plans in the original book show lengths and angles , thickness but I cannot find the width . Thanks Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334734#334734


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    Time: 08:03:40 PM PST US
    From: jorge lizarraga <flightwood@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol wooden landing gear;dimention2
    hi in the flying and glider manual 1932, pg,17, fig6a say the width is 1''b y 2-1/2'', i hope you found these information help full,and you cand finish ed your landingear seyou jorge from hanford. --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Larry V <larryvangerven@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Larry V <larryvangerven@hotmail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol wooden landing gear > Hello I was wondering if any one could tell me the dimensions of the spruce stock for wooden landing gear on the pietenpol . Plans in the original book show lengths and angles , thickness but I cannot find the width . Thanks Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334734#334734 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A




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