Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Thu 03/24/11


Total Messages Posted: 40



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     1. 03:24 AM - Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (Gboothe5)
     2. 05:03 AM - the Jenny gear attracts more ladies......here is proof (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
     3. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: Father's Day Weekend piet fly-in (bradandlinda tds.net)
     4. 08:08 AM - Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (Dan Yocum)
     5. 08:12 AM - Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (K5YAC)
     6. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (Rick Holland)
     7. 08:46 AM - Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (Rick Holland)
     8. 08:58 AM - Re: clear doped look (heavyliftpilot)
     9. 09:42 AM - Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (Bill Church)
    10. 10:01 AM - Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (K5YAC)
    11. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (Ben Charvet)
    12. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (Rick Holland)
    13. 10:40 AM - Sun-Fun (Charles Waldo)
    14. 11:06 AM - Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (K5YAC)
    15. 11:09 AM - Re: Sun-Fun (Gboothe5)
    16. 11:16 AM - Re: Sun-Fun (Rick Holland)
    17. 11:17 AM - Re: Sun-Fun (Rick Holland)
    18. 11:24 AM - Re: Sun-Fun (John Hofmann)
    19. 11:48 AM - Re: Sun-Fun (Charles Waldo)
    20. 11:50 AM - Re: Sun-Fun (Ben Charvet)
    21. 11:51 AM - Re: Sun-Fun (Gboothe5)
    22. 12:13 PM - Re: Sun-Fun (John Hofmann)
    23. 12:35 PM - Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Continental A-65 (Woodflier@aol.com)
    24. 12:56 PM - Re: Sun-Fun (Frank Metcalfe)
    25. 01:21 PM - Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Continental A-65 (Jack Phillips)
    26. 03:04 PM - wings (Charles Campbell)
    27. 03:36 PM - Re: Sun-Fun (Gene Rambo)
    28. 03:37 PM - wings (Charles Campbell)
    29. 03:45 PM - Re: Sun-Fun (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
    30. 04:05 PM - Re: the Jenny gear attracts more ladies......here is proof (jorge lizarraga)
    31. 04:38 PM - Re: wings (Jack Phillips)
    32. 04:59 PM - Re: wings (kevinpurtee)
    33. 05:16 PM - Re: wings (Charles Campbell)
    34. 05:32 PM - Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Continental (Bill Church)
    35. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Conti... (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com)
    36. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: wings (Ben Charvet)
    37. 07:41 PM - Re: Sun-Fun (Charles Waldo)
    38. 08:04 PM - Re: Sun-Fun (Clif Dawson)
    39. 08:04 PM - Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (Charles Waldo)
    40. 08:20 PM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (Gboothe5)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:24:29 AM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    Also pictured in that video, in order of appearance: Mike Studer, A&P, WW West Coast RH Man, building Corvair powered Cassutt Racer. Rich Vetterli, Corvair powered 601, flying off 40 hrs and hasn't broke a crank once, yet. .and, of course, Himself, WW. Gary, Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Back to Corvairs...I guess. She'll sound pretty nice too... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjrY-3JYjg0 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote: Very nice, love that exhaust. Show us a picture when you get your cowling done. rick On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: Huh? I built my 'core' for $3,000 (just a hair over). I'll add another $1,000 for the 5th bearing. Can you get a new 0-235 for $4,000+? One advantage to the Corvair is that a builder is capable of scrounging for parts, and doing almost everything himself, that he is comfortable with. Now, I'm no motorhead, and I'm certainly not a good scrounger, but I know of those who are both and building for even less. I don't know how this rumor got started that the engine is so expensive...maybe because WW has said he will build and engine for $6,000 (probably more now). Yes, the mods can add to that, but no one is required to use those mods. Stock oil coolers are just fine for a Piet, and WW supplies shop drawings for those who want to machine their own stuff. Heck, you want to be a purist and do as BHP did? Your probably around $1,200, but you won't get 100 hp. Gary Boothe Enjoying the Kool-ade! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear differences On 03/23/2011 04:48 PM, Rick Holland wrote: > Dan you forgot to mention the most important decision of all, will I > power it with an 'Unsafe at any Altitude' CORVAIR or not. Oh, us aircraft engine pushers will wear him down one logical point at a time. For instance - it costs just as much to make a Corvair airworthy - with the 5th bearing and all of Wm. Wynne's mods - as it does to buy a O-235, etc. ;-) Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds" " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:03:57 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: the Jenny gear attracts more ladies......here is proof
    Dashing pilot/owner/operator Captain Greg Cardinal with new Pietenpol Jenny Style landing Gear Fan Club.........Notice all the smiles ? You just don't see other Piets with the Cub type landing gear having this k ind of following :) KIDDDING for all of you with your panties wound too tightly ! I was fortunate enough to fly Ryan Mueller's A-65 Cub gear Piet last summer at Brodhead and it was one of the nicest (if not THE nicest) flying Piets I have ever flown. Mike C.


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    Time: 05:57:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Father's Day Weekend piet fly-in
    From: "bradandlinda tds.net" <bradandlinda@tds.net>
    Port-o-potty story from one flyin. Lady came out of the port-o-potty and said "boy are they thoughtfull..they even gave us a place to set our purses"! On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Matthew VanDervort < matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> wrote: > Shad, > > I'm putting in my vacation request today! And worst case scenario... > New job will keep me away :( but I will gladly send money in advance for our > share of hotdogs and wanna be glasairs, i mean port o potty's!! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 23, 2011, at 5:20 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Kevin, if I moved to Texas I couldn't call it an Ohio Piet fly-in > could I? I wish we had the warmer winters here like TX does. It is 70 > degrees now, but the low tonight is 25 and snow, Ohio weather mood swings . > Looking forward to meeting you at Brodhead, you fellow crank snapper. > > Corvair Crank Snappin Club, reminds me of the He-Man Woman Haters Club, o n > the little rascals. > > > Shad > Do not archive > > --- On *Wed, 3/23/11, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>* wrote: > > > From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Father's Day Weekend piet fly-in > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 12:36 PM > > kevin.purtee@us.army.mil<http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=k evin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > > > You know, Shad, you're almost as far away as Brodhead, and I only have th e > vacation for one trip like that a year. > > I'm thinking you should move to Texas. > > Axel > > do not archive > > -------- > Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334787#334787httef=" > http://forums.matronics.com/" target=_blank>http://forums.matronics; > - List Contribution Web Site - > p; = --> > <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334787#334787>==== ===== > ist">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List<http://www.matroni cs.com/contributio=======%3CBR%3E%3CBR%3E%3CBR%3E%3CBR%3E%3C/ DIV%3E%3C/BLOCKQUOTE%3E%3C/td%3E%3C/tr%3E%3C/table%3E%3Cbr%3E++++++%3Cpre%3 E%3Cb%3E%3Cfont+size=2+color=>============= ===================== > ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com========= > http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== ======================= > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 08:08:53 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    On 03/23/2011 09:16 PM, Gboothe5 wrote: > Huh? I built my 'core' for $3,000 (just a hair over). I'll add another > $1,000 for the 5th bearing. Can you get a new 0-235 for $4,000+? One > advantage to the Corvair is that a builder is capable of scrounging for > parts, and doing almost everything himself, that he is comfortable with. OK, I'm not going to comment further on this simply 'cause I don't know. Yes, I've repeated what I've been told - I am simply a dumb mouthpiece when it comes to the Corvair discussion. If you guys wanna go and use 'em, more power to ya! Good on you! That's the Experimentalist spirit! Me, I'm going to stick with my aircraft engine because I trust it more. It lost all compression on one cylinder and still pulled my butt around the sky for who knows how long on only 3 cylinders. So, other than pokin' fun at you (CS)^2 guys, I'm not going put any more useful information in this thread - and that's only because I don't have any useful information. Onward, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 08:12:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Reading through this thread (and my previous posts) again this morning and just wanted to clarify that I wasn't intending to sound snotty, just trying to point out that while the discussion usually seems to revolve around money, not everyone makes their decisions based purely on price. Yes, part of the reason I chose to build and airplane, and part of the reason I chose the Corvair was based upon economy, but it's not everything, and as I've progressed through my project I've found that it doesn't make sense to skimp all the time. Being a new builder, I've not made enough contacts to scrounge effectively, so I'm paying full price for most of my components, as many of us are. For example... I didn't feel like going to the lumber yard and sifting through boards so that I could come to the shop and rip hundreds of feet of strip, I also felt that spruce was probably better (lighter and stronger) that what I could find around here. I'm a big guy, so weight was a primary concern. Did I spend 300% more than it would have cost for me to buy rough cut locally? Maybe 400%? I don't know, but whatever it was I was glad to avoid that chore. Anyhow... getting back to the point... which is, cost. When I first chose the Corvair it was indeed based somewhat on economy, and availability, and simplicity, and, well... I honestly can't remember what all I was thinking when I got into this project, but I haven't seen anything yet that has convinced me that I made a bad engine choice. Has my original assessment in cost changed since I started this project? It has increased almost double... but it's still just as educational as it would have been at a lesser price. Maybe more so! I'm learning that these things not only take longer than expected, they generally cost more too! Ha ha! Some might ask... if you aren't trying to skimp, why did you choose a car engine as opposed to one of the tried and true aviation engines? I suppose that's a fair question, but my answer would simply be... because I wanted to. Plus, I don't believe I'm skimping. Just like any hobby, a person can spend as much or as little as their interest dictates. Guns, Amateur Radio, R/C Airplanes, Astronomy... just a few of the interests that I've spent a hefty sum to be involved in... but it's all relative... others have many times what I have invested, yet I still enjoy the hobby just the same. So, on and on I go, basically saying what others have said, which is that everything isn't based on money. If it were a difference of many thousands of dollars between my car engine and a suitable airplane engine, then I might consider dropping the idea, but given that it's literally a toss up at this point, and the Corvair should be very reliable and economical during operation, I'm going to press on. You know, I originally thought that I could complete this project for $10-$15,000... woops, I'm approaching that target already. I will likely exceed $20k, but probably not by much. Yeah, I still have to budget for the materials we need in order to keep pressing on, but it is what it is, and regardless of the expense, my family and I are having a ball. That's got to be worth something! -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334914#334914


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    Time: 08:45:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    If personal safety is your prime consideration then you have no business building your own aircraft. Especially when you can buy a used certified aircraft quite often for less. I think its hypocritical for anyone who is building there own aircraft (especially if it is their first) to say that safety is their prime concern. And you are wrong Mark, you can only have fun if you use a "genuine" aircraft engine in your aircraft plus if you don't you will most certainly die. rick On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:10 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote: > > Reading through this thread (and my previous posts) again this morning and > just wanted to clarify that I wasn't intending to sound snotty, just trying > to point out that while the discussion usually seems to revolve around > money, not everyone makes their decisions based purely on price. Yes, part > of the reason I chose to build and airplane, and part of the reason I chose > the Corvair was based upon economy, but it's not everything, and as I've > progressed through my project I've found that it doesn't make sense to skimp > all the time. Being a new builder, I've not made enough contacts to > scrounge effectively, so I'm paying full price for most of my components, as > many of us are. For example... I didn't feel like going to the lumber yard > and sifting through boards so that I could come to the shop and rip hundreds > of feet of strip, I also felt that spruce was probably better (lighter and > stronger) that what I could find around here. I'm a big guy, so weight was > a primary conce! > rn. Did I spend 300% more than it would have cost for me to buy rough cut > locally? Maybe 400%? I don't know, but whatever it was I was glad to avoid > that chore. > > Anyhow... getting back to the point... which is, cost. When I first chose > the Corvair it was indeed based somewhat on economy, and availability, and > simplicity, and, well... I honestly can't remember what all I was thinking > when I got into this project, but I haven't seen anything yet that has > convinced me that I made a bad engine choice. Has my original assessment in > cost changed since I started this project? It has increased almost > double... but it's still just as educational as it would have been at a > lesser price. Maybe more so! I'm learning that these things not only take > longer than expected, they generally cost more too! Ha ha! > > Some might ask... if you aren't trying to skimp, why did you choose a car > engine as opposed to one of the tried and true aviation engines? I suppose > that's a fair question, but my answer would simply be... because I wanted > to. Plus, I don't believe I'm skimping. Just like any hobby, a person can > spend as much or as little as their interest dictates. Guns, Amateur Radio, > R/C Airplanes, Astronomy... just a few of the interests that I've spent a > hefty sum to be involved in... but it's all relative... others have many > times what I have invested, yet I still enjoy the hobby just the same. > > So, on and on I go, basically saying what others have said, which is that > everything isn't based on money. If it were a difference of many thousands > of dollars between my car engine and a suitable airplane engine, then I > might consider dropping the idea, but given that it's literally a toss up at > this point, and the Corvair should be very reliable and economical during > operation, I'm going to press on. You know, I originally thought that I > could complete this project for $10-$15,000... woops, I'm approaching that > target already. I will likely exceed $20k, but probably not by much. Yeah, > I still have to budget for the materials we need in order to keep pressing > on, but it is what it is, and regardless of the expense, my family and I are > having a ball. That's got to be worth something! > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334914#334914 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"


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    Time: 08:46:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Well, we Vair-heads have 6 cylinders and will lose a lower percentage of power with one dead cylinder. So there... On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote: > > > On 03/23/2011 09:16 PM, Gboothe5 wrote: > >> Huh? I built my 'core' for $3,000 (just a hair over). I'll add another >> $1,000 for the 5th bearing. Can you get a new 0-235 for $4,000+? One >> advantage to the Corvair is that a builder is capable of scrounging for >> parts, and doing almost everything himself, that he is comfortable with. >> > > OK, I'm not going to comment further on this simply 'cause I don't know. > Yes, I've repeated what I've been told - I am simply a dumb mouthpiece when > it comes to the Corvair discussion. If you guys wanna go and use 'em, more > power to ya! Good on you! That's the Experimentalist spirit! > > Me, I'm going to stick with my aircraft engine because I trust it more. It > lost all compression on one cylinder and still pulled my butt around the sky > for who knows how long on only 3 cylinders. > > So, other than pokin' fun at you (CS)^2 guys, I'm not going put any more > useful information in this thread - and that's only because I don't have any > useful information. > > Onward, > Dan > > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"


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    Time: 08:58:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: clear doped look
    From: "heavyliftpilot" <heavyliftpilot@gmail.com>
    Hi, i have a question (relating to covering)...tried to do a search, but came up with too many hits. I bought a piet that was built in 2004, and for the most part, the covering looks pretty good. except, on one wing, the tape is wore and almost every rib stitch is exposed. Not sure what to make of this, and what might cause that to happen. any input? thanks, james t Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334921#334921


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    Time: 09:42:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Mark wrote: > regardless of the expense, my family and I are having a ball. That's got to be worth something! > Last time I checked, that was worth $6127.86. :) BC do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334928#334928


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    Time: 10:01:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Bill Church wrote: > Last time I checked, that was worth $6127.86. :) > > BC Cheapskate. I'll bet you sneak your own candy into the movies too. [Laughing] -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334929#334929


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    Time: 10:20:42 AM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    Wow, we have about beat this subject to death, but let me add just this. I've disassembled 3 Corvair cores, 2 Continental A-65's, then rebuilt the A-65. I don't see how you could possibly consider the Corvair to be simpler than the basic small Continental, especially the reliable no battery needed magneto ignition. The Corvair is a neat design, and its amazing how neatly packaged the bottom end is. When I compared the obvious strength of the crankshafts, crankcases, and the #1 crank bearing, it helped me make my decision. Ben Charvet Titusville, Fl Headed to Sun-N-Fun hopefully Monday night to hang out with the Corvair boys from Georgia Won't get to park with them, cause I have an airplane engine in mine, and they will be in Auto conversion parking. However we are all brothers of the Pietenpol who are comfortable with our many decisions made during the building process.


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    Time: 10:40:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Who said a Corvair was simpler? A C-65 is simpler that my lawn tractor engine. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wow, we have about beat this subject to death, but let me add just this. > I've disassembled 3 Corvair cores, 2 Continental A-65's, then rebuilt the > A-65. I don't see how you could possibly consider the Corvair to be simpler > than the basic small Continental, especially the reliable no battery needed > magneto ignition. The Corvair is a neat design, and its amazing how neatly > packaged the bottom end is. When I compared the obvious strength of the > crankshafts, crankcases, and the #1 crank bearing, it helped me make my > decision. > > Ben Charvet > Titusville, Fl > Headed to Sun-N-Fun hopefully Monday night to hang out with the Corvair > boys from Georgia > Won't get to park with them, cause I have an airplane engine in mine, and > they will be in Auto conversion parking. However we are all brothers of > the Pietenpol who are comfortable with our many decisions made during the > building process. > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"


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    Time: 10:40:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Sun-Fun
    From: Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com>
    Folks For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;)


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    Time: 11:06:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess.
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    at7000ft wrote: > Who said a Corvair was simpler? A C-65 is simpler that my lawn tractor engine. I was wondering the same thing. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334940#334940


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    Time: 11:09:56 AM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Sun-Fun
    Now, who is going to be the first to offer "Waldo" a ride? THAT would be priceless! Hey, Chuck.What engine are you going to...Oh, never mind. Gary Boothe Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:27 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun Folks For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;)


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    Time: 11:16:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-Fun
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Nice CAD work Chuck (using very high tech to render very primitive technology). At SNF just check out the woodworking shop/tent, Dick and the gang will be working on a Piet fuselage and they should know if any Piet get-together is planned. (Now you just need to add a CAD Corvair engine to your CAD Pietenpol) On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com> wrote: > Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group > will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. > I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been > lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, > but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. > If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an > idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... > > Chuck Waldo > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), > work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is > ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"


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    Time: 11:17:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-Fun
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    I beat you to that engine question thing Gary. rick On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > Now, who is going to be the first to offer =93Waldo=94 a ride? THAT woul d be > priceless! > > > Hey, Chuck=85What engine are you going to=85..Oh, never mind=85 > > > Gary Boothe > > Do not archive > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Waldo > *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:27 AM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun > > > Folks > > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group > will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. > I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've bee n > lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many time s, > but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expec t. > If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an > idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... > > > Chuck Waldo > > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), > work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is > ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"


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    Time: 11:24:16 AM PST US
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun-Fun
    Slammed at work but this is too good to pass up. "If you carry my gas can into town I'll give you a free lesson at the end of the day. Judging from that landing you need all the help you can get." I am going to really like having "Waldo" on this list. Apologies in advance Chuck, but I am the list moron. do not archive John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Mar 24, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Gboothe5 wrote: > Now, who is going to be the first to offer =93Waldo=94 a ride? THAT would be priceless! > > Hey, Chuck=85What engine are you going to=85..Oh, never mind=85 > > Gary Boothe > Do not archive > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:27 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun > > Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... > > Chuck Waldo > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:48:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-Fun
    From: Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com>
    I guess I should not mention that I have the "Waldo Hat & Glasses" from las t Halloween...... Chuck On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:20 PM, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>wr ote: > Slammed at work but this is too good to pass up. > > "If you carry my gas can into town I'll give you a free lesson at the end > of the day. Judging from that landing you need all the help you can get." > > I am going to really like having "Waldo" on this list. Apologies in advan ce > Chuck, but I am the list moron. > > do not archive > > > John Hofmann > Vice-President, Information Technology > The Rees Group, Inc. > 2424 American Lane > Madison, WI 53704 > Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 > Fax: 608.443.2474 > Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com > > On Mar 24, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Gboothe5 wrote: > > Now, who is going to be the first to offer =93Waldo=94 a ride? THAT would be > priceless! > > Hey, Chuck=85What engine are you going to=85..Oh, never mind=85 > > Gary Boothe > Do not archive > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Waldo > *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:27 AM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun > > Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group > will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. > I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've bee n > lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many time s, > but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expec t. > If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an > idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... > > Chuck Waldo > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), > work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is > ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" style="color : blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pi etenpol-List > blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com > style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics. com/contribution > * > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 11:50:48 AM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun-Fun
    On 3/24/2011 1:27 PM, Charles Waldo wrote: > Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet > group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where > and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list > that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to > Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really > don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit > in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves > into....... > > Chuck Waldo > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see > attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased > when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to > use ;) > > I will be leaving Friday morning, but if you can get there any earlier you are welcome to sit in mine. -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center


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    Time: 11:51:06 AM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Sun-Fun
    True enough, Rick; but I was the first to imply that, "The Great Waldo Sat Here" would be invaluable on any Piet! Gary Do not archive My apologies, too, Chuck. Yes, John is the List Moron, and needs no excuse.the rest of us do. From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun I beat you to that engine question thing Gary. rick On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: Now, who is going to be the first to offer "Waldo" a ride? THAT would be priceless! Hey, Chuck.What engine are you going to...Oh, never mind. Gary Boothe Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:27 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun Folks For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds"


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    Time: 12:13:33 PM PST US
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun-Fun
    Please note it is Moron with a capitol "M." do not archive John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Mar 24, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Gboothe5 wrote: > True enough, Rick; but I was the first to imply that, =93The Great Waldo Sat Here=94 would be invaluable on any Piet! > > Gary > Do not archive > > My apologies, too, Chuck. Yes, John is the List Moron, and needs no excuse=85the rest of us do. > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:15 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun > > I beat you to that engine question thing Gary. > > rick > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > Now, who is going to be the first to offer =93Waldo=94 a ride? THAT would be priceless! > > Hey, Chuck=85What engine are you going to=85..Oh, never mind=85 > > Gary Boothe > Do not archive > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:27 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun > > Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... > > Chuck Waldo > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > > > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > > "A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds" > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > >


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    Time: 12:35:17 PM PST US
    From: Woodflier@aol.com
    Subject: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Continental
    A-65 After overhauling my Stromberg NA-S3B carb in 2003 and going to the Delrin needle with the counterweight, I now find that I should have replaced the needle seat that has a rounded shoulder where the needle engages, part #383911. Several websites for Fly Babies, Luscombes, etc. referred me to Skyport Services but they don't have any, nor does Fresno Airparts (I thought they had parts for everything from the Wright Flyer on!). Aircraft Spruce, where I bought the needle but which made no mention in the catalogue that a different seat was called for, is researching if one can be found. Meanwhile, I turn to the real experts. Does anyone have a source for the seat that works with the Delrin needle? Does anyone have a seat they're not going to use? Matt Paxton Piet NX629ML


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    Time: 12:56:12 PM PST US
    From: Frank Metcalfe <fmetcalf@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun-Fun
    Charles look me up and you guys can sit in mine. We should be there Saturda y the 26 and leaving Friday the 1st cell 404 392 5612..... --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com> wrote: From: Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun Folks -- For those going to Sun-Fun, -just wondering if some of the Piet gr oup will be getting together on Saturday-April 2nd,-and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I'v e been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), wo rk shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready... ......Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;)


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    Time: 01:21:53 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Continental
    A-65 No, I've got the stainless steel needle. It leaked like a sieve until I lapped in the valve seat. I mounted the valve seat in a drill press vice, chucked the needle in the drill press, squirted some Crest toothpaste onto the seat and used the drill press to spin the needle against the seat, lapping it with the toothpaste as a fine abrasive. It works perfectly and no longer leaks. Could you do something similar to round off the edges of the seat you have so it would work with the delrin needle? Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Woodflier@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:31 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Continental A-65 After overhauling my Stromberg NA-S3B carb in 2003 and going to the Delrin needle with the counterweight, I now find that I should have replaced the needle seat that has a rounded shoulder where the needle engages, part #383911. Several websites for Fly Babies, Luscombes, etc. referred me to Skyport Services but they don't have any, nor does Fresno Airparts (I thought they had parts for everything from the Wright Flyer on!). Aircraft Spruce, where I bought the needle but which made no mention in the catalogue that a different seat was called for, is researching if one can be found. Meanwhile, I turn to the real experts. Does anyone have a source for the seat that works with the Delrin needle? Does anyone have a seat they're not going to use? Matt Paxton Piet NX629ML


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    Time: 03:04:42 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: wings
    My first shot at glueing ribs to spars using T88. Will let you know tomorrow whether I got it mixed properly.


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    Time: 03:36:31 PM PST US
    From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
    Subject: Sun-Fun
    you mean the red and white knit cap and scarf and horn-rimmed glasses? Coo l! You know=2C I never can find you in those photos. Gene do not archive Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun From: cwaldo.jr@gmail.com I guess I should not mention that I have the "Waldo Hat & Glasses" from las t Halloween...... Chuck On Thu=2C Mar 24=2C 2011 at 2:20 PM=2C John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc. com> wrote: Slammed at work but this is too good to pass up. "If you carry my gas can into town I'll give you a free lesson at the end o f the day. Judging from that landing you need all the help you can get." I am going to really like having "Waldo" on this list. Apologies in advance Chuck=2C but I am the list moron. do not archive John Hofmann Vice-President=2C Information Technology The Rees Group=2C Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison=2C WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Mar 24=2C 2011=2C at 1:07 PM=2C Gboothe5 wrote: Now=2C who is going to be the first to offer =93Waldo=94 a ride? THAT would be priceless! Hey=2C Chuck=85What engine are you going to=85..Oh=2C never mind=85 Gary Boothe Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo Sent: Thursday=2C March 24=2C 2011 10:27 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun Folks For those going to Sun-Fun=2C just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd=2C and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times =2C but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to exp ect. If possible=2C my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago=2C Cad work just about done (see attached) =2C work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is re ady.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use =3B) href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" style="color: blue=3B text-decoration: underline=3B ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? Pietenpol-List blue=3B text-decoration: underline=3B ">http://forums.matronics.com style="color: blue=3B text-decoration: underline=3B ">http://www.matronic s.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:37:11 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: wings
    My first shot at glueing ribs to spars using T88. Will let you know tomorrow whether I got it mixed properly.


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    Time: 03:45:35 PM PST US
    From: TOM MICHELLE BRANT <tmbrant@msn.com>
    Subject: Sun-Fun
    what software did you do this in? I'd be interested in a 3D .dwg file if y ou're willing to share. Thanks Tom B. Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun From: cwaldo.jr@gmail.com Folks For those going to Sun-Fun=2C just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd=2C and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times =2C but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to exp ect. If possible=2C my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago=2C Cad work just about done (see attached) =2C work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is re ady.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use =3B)


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    Time: 04:05:53 PM PST US
    From: jorge lizarraga <flightwood@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: the Jenny gear attracts more ladies......here is proof
    ok who is your daugther and who is your nices --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] <micha el.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.g ov> Subject: Pietenpol-List: the Jenny gear attracts more ladies......here is p roof Dashing pilot/owner/operator Captain Greg Cardinal with new Pietenpol Jenny Style landing Gear Fan ClubNotice all the smiles ? =C2- You just don't see other Piets with the Cub type landing gear having this k ind of following J =C2- KIDDDING for all of you with your panties wound too tightly !=C2-=C2- =C2- =C2- I was fortunate enough to fly Ryan Mueller's A-65 Cub gear Piet last summer at Brodhead and it was one of the nicest (if not THE nicest) flying Piets I have ever flown. =C2- Mike C. =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 04:38:37 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: wings
    Well, it's a little late now to mention it, but you might not want to glue the ribs in place until you've got the drag and anti-drag wires in place and have the wing trammeled. You will almost certainly need to move some of those ribs an inch or two to clear the wires. It is not necessary to glue the ribs to the spars at all. I just used AN501 nails on mine. Once the wing is together and the fabric is rib-laced the ribs can't move anyway. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: wings My first shot at glueing ribs to spars using T88. Will let you know tomorrow whether I got it mixed properly.


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    Time: 04:59:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: wings
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Looking good, Chuck. If you run into clearance problems with wires like Jack described, I've seen people put doublers on the affected rib intercoastals and then clearance those intercoastals for clearance (Clarence). Hope that makes sense. -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334979#334979


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    Time: 05:16:41 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: wings
    Been there -- done that. What I did was slid the ribs on and positioned them about where the plans call for. I then mounted the 6 metal fittings that the wires connect to and ran mason cord between the fittings in lieu of the wires. I then adjusted the rib positions so that the wires would clear and marked the positions on the front spar. I then took the ribs off the spars, and using a square, transferred the marks to the rear spar. then I marked and drew perpendicular lines at the same places on the left wing spars (the wing shown is the right wing.) So when I go to put the wires in, they should not touch the ribs anywhere. As far as using the nails -- I didn't think that I would have room to hammer the nails in. What did you use -- a midget hammer? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:20 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: wings Well, it's a little late now to mention it, but you might not want to glue the ribs in place until you've got the drag and anti-drag wires in place and have the wing trammeled. You will almost certainly need to move some of those ribs an inch or two to clear the wires. It is not necessary to glue the ribs to the spars at all. I just used AN501 nails on mine. Once the wing is together and the fabric is rib-laced the ribs can't move anyway. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:55 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: wings My first shot at glueing ribs to spars using T88. Will let you know tomorrow whether I got it mixed properly.


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    Time: 05:32:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Continental
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Jack wrote: > squirted some Crest toothpaste onto the seat and used the drill press to spin the needle against the seat, lapping it with the toothpaste as a fine abrasive. It works perfectly and no longer leaks. Plus, the engine now has minty fresh breath, and no cavities... BC do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334983#334983


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    Time: 06:15:42 PM PST US
    From: SENTUCHOWS@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb,
    Conti... I have one from a rubber needle. I think you can use that with a derlin needle. You are welcome to it, if you want it. Dave


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    Time: 07:17:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: wings
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    So Kevin, I'm not the only one that did that? Ben Charvet On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:55 PM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>wrote: > kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > Looking good, Chuck. If you run into clearance problems with wires like > Jack described, I've seen people put doublers on the affected rib > intercoastals and then clearance those intercoastals for clearance > (Clarence). > > Hope that makes sense. > > -------- > Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334979#334979 > >


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    Time: 07:41:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-Fun
    From: Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com>
    Tom Its was done with Google Sketchup (free version)....does not convert perfectly well to a dwg.......I was thinking of converting it to a 3D PDF (could be rotated and zoomed in and out using free adobe reader!)...but then I read the heavy discussion on liability and now I'm having second thoughts on that.... :( Chuck On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:38 PM, TOM MICHELLE BRANT <tmbrant@msn.com> wrote: > what software did you do this in? I'd be interested in a 3D .dwg file if > you're willing to share. > > Thanks > > Tom B. > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:27:14 -0400 > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun > From: cwaldo.jr@gmail.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group > will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. > I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been > lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, > but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. > If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an > idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... > > Chuck Waldo > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), > work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is > ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 08:04:06 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Sun-Fun
    When they do are you going to make them scream "POCA, POCA" and video it for the rest of us distance schmucks? :-) Clif Charles look me up and you guys can sit in mine. We should be there Saturday the 26 and leaving Friday the 1st cell 404 392 5612..... ---


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    Time: 08:04:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??)
    From: Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com>
    I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... Chuck Waldo ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com> Subject: Sun-Fun Folks For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;)


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    Time: 08:20:17 PM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??)
    Re-take that picture in front of your Piet and Greg Cardinal may have to step aside!! Gary Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... Chuck Waldo ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com> Subject: Sun-Fun Folks For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;)




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