---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/25/11: 47 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:57 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (Jack Phillips) 2. 05:09 AM - Re: Sun-Fun (Frank Metcalfe) 3. 05:14 AM - Re: wings (womenfly2) 4. 05:27 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (Dan Yocum) 5. 05:36 AM - Re: wings (helspersew@aol.com) 6. 05:46 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (John Hofmann) 7. 05:46 AM - Re: Project for sale (james theissen) 8. 05:46 AM - Re: the Jenny gear attracts more ladies......here is proof (Greg Cardinal) 9. 06:13 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (John Hofmann) 10. 07:01 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (Charles Waldo) 11. 07:01 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (Charles Waldo) 12. 07:01 AM - Re: wings (Michael Perez) 13. 07:09 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (Jack Phillips) 14. 07:40 AM - Re: wings (kevinpurtee) 15. 08:25 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (Kip and Beth Gardner) 16. 08:46 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (airlion) 17. 09:24 AM - trying on a wing (bender) 18. 10:06 AM - Re: trying on a wing (Jack) 19. 10:09 AM - Re: trying on a wing (Brett Phillips) 20. 10:14 AM - Re: trying on a wing (Dan Yocum) 21. 10:26 AM - Re: trying on a wing (Jack Phillips) 22. 10:26 AM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (Jack Phillips) 23. 10:47 AM - Re: trying on a wing (Jack Phillips) 24. 10:50 AM - Re: trying on a wing (John Hofmann) 25. 11:17 AM - Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (K5YAC) 26. 11:20 AM - Re: trying on a wing (bender) 27. 11:54 AM - Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. (AircamperN11MS) 28. 11:59 AM - Re: trying on a wing (AircamperN11MS) 29. 12:05 PM - Re: trying on a wing (bender) 30. 12:11 PM - Re: trying on a wing (jarheadpilot82) 31. 12:12 PM - Re: trying on a wing (AircamperN11MS) 32. 01:03 PM - West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (Michael Groah) 33. 01:12 PM - West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (info sheet) (Michael Groah) 34. 01:14 PM - Re: wings (Charles Campbell) 35. 01:17 PM - Re: wings (Charles Campbell) 36. 01:53 PM - Re: trying on a wing (Charles Campbell) 37. 01:53 PM - Re: trying on a wing (Charles Campbell) 38. 01:57 PM - Re: trying on a wing (aerocarjake) 39. 02:13 PM - Re: trying on a wing (Brett Phillips) 40. 03:35 PM - Re: wings (Andrew M Eldredge) 41. 04:32 PM - Re: wings (Billy McCaskill) 42. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: wings (Jack Phillips) 43. 05:24 PM - Re: wings (Bill Church) 44. 07:26 PM - Re: Fw: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) (ken.riffic.@gmail.com) 45. 08:51 PM - Re: trying on a wing (Clif Dawson) 46. 08:58 PM - Re: Re: trying on a wing (Gboothe5) 47. 09:02 PM - Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (Gboothe5) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:52 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) So how does your son like flying gliders? Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... Chuck Waldo ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Charles Waldo Subject: Sun-Fun Folks For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:57 AM PST US From: Frank Metcalfe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun Absolutely . I read somewhere that was a requirementThat will be the price for admission..Video to Follow !!!!! --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Clif Dawson wrote: From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun-Fun When they do are you going to make them scream "POCA, POCA" and video it for the rest of us distance schmucks? :-) =C2- Clif Charles look me up and you guys can sit in mine. We should be there Saturda y the 26 and leaving Friday the 1st cell 404 392 5612..... --- =C2- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings From: "womenfly2" Nice, but you have some very grainy wing spars there (?). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335002#335002 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) From: Dan Yocum That's definitely not the Waldo we're talking about. This is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073075 Do not archive -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Charles Waldo wrote: > I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet co -builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 1 4 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... > > Chuck Waldo > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Charles Waldo > Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM > Subject: Sun-Fun > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group w ill be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurk ing on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but t his is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If po ssible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea o f what we are getting ourselves into....... > > Chuck Waldo > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), w ork shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready... ......Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wings From: helspersew@aol.com Looks good Chuck. Don't worry about the bracing wire clearance. I had some interference problems and added (or subtracted) small pieces to my rib stru cture in order to accommodate the wire location. I did not want to move my ribs from side-to-side, as I thought it might be detected by some astute in spectors at Brodhead. :O) My ribs are fastened to the LE (per plans) AND glued to the spars. Just mak e darn sure you like the way things line-up, because (as I'm sure you are w ell-aware) after gluing a few ribs, you "aint gonna" move anything on that wing. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Charles Campbell Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 5:08 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: wings My first shot at glueing ribs to spars using T88. Will let you know tomorr ow whether I got it mixed properly. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:37 AM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) "I was quicker, he was faster." M do not archive John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Mar 25, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Dan Yocum wrote: > That's definitely not the Waldo we're talking about. This is: > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073075 > > Do not archive > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137@gmail.com > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Charles Waldo wrote: > >> I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... >> >> Chuck Waldo >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Charles Waldo >> Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM >> Subject: Sun-Fun >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> >> >> Folks >> >> For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... >> >> Chuck Waldo >> >> PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) >> >> >> >> >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:38 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Project for sale From: james theissen Hi Wylie, did i ask you for some pics? if not, could you email me some. Also, how many hours on the plane, and how much are you asking? thanks. james On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:42 PM, olflyr45 wrote: > > Pietenpol fully assembled and has been flying. For sale less firewall forward. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334363#334363 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:38 AM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: the Jenny gear attracts more ladies......here is proof Just doing my part to get young people involved in aviation........ Greg C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:57 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: the Jenny gear attracts more ladies......here is proof Dashing pilot/owner/operator Captain Greg Cardinal with new Pietenpol Jenny Style landing Gear Fan Club...Notice all the smiles ? You just don't see other Piets with the Cub type landing gear having this kind of following J KIDDDING for all of you with your panties wound too tightly ! ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:01 AM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) "I was quicker, he was faster." M do not archive John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Mar 25, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Dan Yocum wrote: > That's definitely not the Waldo we're talking about. This is: > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073075 > > Do not archive > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137@gmail.com > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Charles Waldo wrote: > >> I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... >> >> Chuck Waldo >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Charles Waldo >> Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM >> Subject: Sun-Fun >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> >> >> Folks >> >> For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... >> >> Chuck Waldo >> >> PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) >> >> >> >> >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) From: Charles Waldo Jack He and I love flying gliders, we joined a glider club in Middletown NY abou t 3 years ago. Its a different world from the power flying I've been doing over the last 15 years. We picked up a schweitzer 1-34 a couple of years ag o and are flying the pants off of it. And the best part is because its a glider, we did not have to decide what kind of engine to put in it! LOL Chuck do not archive On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Jack Phillips wrot e: > So how does your son like flying gliders? > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94 > > Raleigh, NC > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Waldo > *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:02 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) > > > I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet > co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at > 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)......... .. > > > Chuck Waldo > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Charles Waldo* > Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM > Subject: Sun-Fun > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > Folks > > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group > will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. > I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've bee n > lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many time s, > but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expec t. > If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an > idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... > > > Chuck Waldo > > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), > work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is > ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) From: Charles Waldo I would like to think I look look Robbert Redford......but my wife of 26 years may beg to differ..... Chuck Waldo Do not archive On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Dan Yocum wrote: > That's definitely not the Waldo we're talking about. This is: > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073075 > > Do not archive > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137@gmail.com > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Charles Waldo wrote: > > I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet > co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at > 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... > > Chuck Waldo > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Charles Waldo > Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM > Subject: Sun-Fun > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group > will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. > I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been > lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, > but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. > If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an > idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... > > Chuck Waldo > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), > work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is > ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:59 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wings I noticed the heavy/wavy grain as well. What type wood are the spars Charle s? I still can't believe how fast you are building this plane! How long has it been now? MAYBE a year?- Glad to see it coming together...very exciting times. Michael Perez =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:26 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) Well, I wondered from your post saying he got his private license at 16, since you can't get a private ASEL until age 17. Knowing how to fly a glider will put him in good shape if you decide to power your Pietenpol with a Corvair. He'll probably need such training. :-) Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) Jack He and I love flying gliders, we joined a glider club in Middletown NY about 3 years ago. Its a different world from the power flying I've been doing over the last 15 years. We picked up a schweitzer 1-34 a couple of years ago and are flying the pants off of it. And the best part is because its a glider, we did not have to decide what kind of engine to put in it! LOL Chuck do not archive On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: So how does your son like flying gliders? Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... Chuck Waldo ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Charles Waldo Subject: Sun-Fun Folks For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:49 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings From: "kevinpurtee" To Ben - Yeah, I'm one of the people "I've seen" do that:). -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335020#335020 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:56 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) Or puts steel wool in a heat muff Do not archive On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: > Well, I wondered from your post saying he got his private license at > 16, since you can=92t get a private ASEL until age 17. > > Knowing how to fly a glider will put him in good shape if you decide > to power your Pietenpol with a Corvair. He=92ll probably need such > training. J > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94 > Raleigh, NC > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:26 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) > > Jack > > He and I love flying gliders, we joined a glider club in Middletown > NY about 3 years ago. Its a different world from the power flying > I've been doing over the last 15 years. We picked up a schweitzer > 1-34 a couple of years ago and are flying the pants off of it. And > the best part is because its a glider, we did not have to decide > what kind of engine to put in it! LOL > > Chuck > do not archive > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Jack Phillips > wrote: > So how does your son like flying gliders? > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94 > Raleigh, NC > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:02 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) > > I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and > Piet co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because > he solo'd at 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another > proud dad!)........... > > Chuck Waldo > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Charles Waldo > Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM > Subject: Sun-Fun > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet > group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so > where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on > this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I > have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun > so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I > would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we > are getting ourselves into....... > > Chuck Waldo > > PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see > attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased > when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going > to use ;) > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ttp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:10 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) Won't do any good Jack. When the corvair fails the piet will glide like a r ock- =0Ajust like Icarus did when his wings melted. Gardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jack Phillips =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, March 25, 2011 10:0 6:48 AM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??)=0A=0A =0AWell, I wondered from your post saying he got his private license at 16 , since =0Ayou can=99t get a private ASEL until age 17.=0A =0AKnowing how to fly a glider will put him in good shape if you decide to power =0Ay our Pietenpol with a Corvair. He=99ll probably need such training. J=0A =0AJack Phillips=0ANX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D=0ARaleigh , NC=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-l ist-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.c om] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo=0ASent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:26 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun ( Where's Waldo??)=0A =0AJack=0A =0AHe and I love flying gliders, we joined a glider club in Middletown NY about 3 =0Ayears ago. Its a different world from the power flying I've been doing over the =0Alast 15 years. We picked up a schweitzer 1-34 a couple of years ago and are =0Aflying the pants off of it. And the best part is because its a glider, we did =0Anot have to de cide what kind of engine to put in it! LOL=0A =0AChuck=0Ado not archive=0AO n Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Jack Phillips wrot e:=0ASo how does your son like flying gliders?=0A =0AJack Phillips=0ANX899J P =9CIcarus Plummet=9D=0ARaleigh, NC=0A =0A=0A________________ ________________=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com =0A[m ailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo =0ASent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:02 PM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.c om=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??)=0A =0AI'm thin king the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet =0Aco-build er last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 14 =0A and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)...........=0A =0AChuck Waldo=0A---------- Forwarded message ----------=0AFrom: Charles W aldo =0ADate: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM=0ASubject: Sun-Fun=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0A=0A=0AFolks=0A =0A For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be =0Aget ting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really =0Alike to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for =0Athe past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a =0Afirst trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my =0Ason and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to ge t an idea of what we are =0Agetting ourselves into.......=0A =0AChuck Waldo =0A =0APS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attach ed), work =0Ashop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop i s =0Aready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;)=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigato r?Pietenpol-List=0Attp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">http://www.matronic s.com/contribution=0A =0A =0A =0A =0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator? Pietenpol-List=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/con ==================== =0A ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:15 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing From: "bender" well..kinda had a big morning... just trying on my wing for the first time. need to level it up and do some measuring but it looks like a plane now. my friends who didn't get it before will be able to see now. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335027#335027 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing3_885.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing2_186.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing1_638.jpg ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:08 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing Fantastic Jeff, thanks for sharing! Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing well..kinda had a big morning... just trying on my wing for the first time. need to level it up and do some measuring but it looks like a plane now. my friends who didn't get it before will be able to see now. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335027#335027 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing3_885.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing2_186.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing1_638.jpg ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:45 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing From: "Brett Phillips" Jeff: You're another guy on this list that doesn't let any grass grow under him! It seems that you have some sort of major milestone to report every couple of weeks. Keep it up, 'cause your airplane is looking great! Brett Phillips Strasburg, VA NX311GP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335031#335031 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:40 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing Ooo! Pretty! Did you cane your own seat? Nice panel, too. Is that burled maple or quarter sawn oak? Looks good! do not archive On 03/25/2011 11:21 AM, bender wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bender" > > well..kinda had a big morning... > just trying on my wing for the first time. > need to level it up and do some measuring but it looks like a plane now. > my friends who didn't get it before will be able to see now. > > jeff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335027#335027 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing3_885.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing2_186.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing1_638.jpg > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:08 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing Looks beautiful Jeff, but I see a real problem. Hangar's too clean. How do you ever expect to spend hours searching for a tool in such a hangar? Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing well..kinda had a big morning... just trying on my wing for the first time. need to level it up and do some measuring but it looks like a plane now. my friends who didn't get it before will be able to see now. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335027#335027 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing3_885.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing2_186.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing1_638.jpg ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:09 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) Mine doesn't glide like a rock. More like a bowling ball. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) Won't do any good Jack. When the corvair fails the piet will glide like a rock- just like Icarus did when his wings melted. Gardiner _____ From: Jack Phillips Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 10:06:48 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) Well, I wondered from your post saying he got his private license at 16, since you can't get a private ASEL until age 17. Knowing how to fly a glider will put him in good shape if you decide to power your Pietenpol with a Corvair. He'll probably need such training. :-) Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) Jack He and I love flying gliders, we joined a glider club in Middletown NY about 3 years ago. Its a different world from the power flying I've been doing over the last 15 years. We picked up a schweitzer 1-34 a couple of years ago and are flying the pants off of it. And the best part is because its a glider, we did not have to decide what kind of engine to put in it! LOL Chuck do not archive On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: So how does your son like flying gliders? Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 14 and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... Chuck Waldo ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Charles Waldo Subject: Sun-Fun Folks For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are getting ourselves into....... Chuck Waldo PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/contribution============ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:47:28 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing My seat got caned pretty frequently when I was a youngster, but I never tried to do it myself. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:10 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing Ooo! Pretty! Did you cane your own seat? Nice panel, too. Is that burled maple or quarter sawn oak? Looks good! do not archive On 03/25/2011 11:21 AM, bender wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bender" > > well..kinda had a big morning... > just trying on my wing for the first time. > need to level it up and do some measuring but it looks like a plane now. > my friends who didn't get it before will be able to see now. > > jeff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335027#335027 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing3_885.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing2_186.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing1_638.jpg > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:54 AM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing The hangar also seems kinda small. I doubt you could get another airplane in there. do not archive John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Jack Phillips wrote: > > Looks beautiful Jeff, but I see a real problem. Hangar's too clean. How do > you ever expect to spend hours searching for a tool in such a hangar? > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:22 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing > > > well..kinda had a big morning... > just trying on my wing for the first time. > need to level it up and do some measuring but it looks like a plane now. > my friends who didn't get it before will be able to see now. > > jeff > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335027#335027 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing3_885.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing2_186.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing1_638.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 11:17:30 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. From: "K5YAC" K5YAC wrote: > > at7000ft wrote: > > Who said a Corvair was simpler? A C-65 is simpler that my lawn tractor engine. > > > I was wondering the same thing. To be fair... I see where I did make mention that one of the reasons I chose the Corvair was "simplicity", but I wasn't suggesting that it was simpler than anything else in particular, just that it was familiar, available, etc., and therefore simpler from my perspective. I don't have any experience with aircraft engines so I can't make that type of comparison. I also reserve the right to be wrong, as well as the freedom to choose whatever engine I want, regardless of what others think. Just gotta keep this thread alive. [Rolling Eyes] -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335043#335043 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:20:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing From: "bender" the hangar is nice to have ... i try not to touch the piet during "work" hours but the Citation left yesterday and won't be back till tomorrow... so i didn't feel too bad about putting the wing on i still loose tools...and coffee mugs... and my tape measure i guess i cant really make the real struts till i do a weight and balance but i'm looking forward to those holding up the wing i've been building to the flying and glider manuals..and i like the aileron cables on the outside like Walt Bowes plane but i kinda wondered about the "new" way too... time to work on that stuff jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335044#335044 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 11:54:46 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. From: "AircamperN11MS" OK guys, I fly behind a Cont. C-85-12F and have friends who fly what used to be an auto engine. You know like the Model A, Corvair, Model T, yes I said T. I have in-fact personally flown all three of these and more. The Model T was in Chris Essgards Sky Scout that our old friend Bernie built (yes the original) and the Model A was Gar Williams Sky Scout that Bernie also built. Anyway, to the point here. I understand that everyone here is having fun poking at each other (and some of it is pretty funny) so here is my personal thought. It seems to me that after you take the engine out of whatever car it used to be in, it is no longer and auto engine. Once it is install in an aircraft I consider it to be an aircraft engine. Whatever engine happens to be pulling us around the sky doesn't really matter because we all come home the same way. With bugs in our teeth. If you don't believe me, then start checking everyone's teeth when the arrive at the next Piet gathering wherever that may be. You can all check mine at the Frazier Lake gathering in June. Now continue the jousting! -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335047#335047 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 11:59:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing From: "AircamperN11MS" Very nice, you're doing us all proud. I think we should start a pool. See who can determine Jeff's first flight day. Oh, and Jeff can't enter it. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335048#335048 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 12:05:19 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing From: "bender" thats funny Scott... i glued my first rib together 4 months ago on Nov 1st... started cutting ribstock a few days before that.. took lots of photos today i wish i knew when i would be done.. i love building stuff... but flying this one should be a blast can't wait i'm on the lookout for the right boards to cut up into a prop.. Dan's fault jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335049#335049 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 12:11:35 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing From: "jarheadpilot82" Nice looking! -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335052#335052 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 12:12:09 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing From: "AircamperN11MS" Since we are now starting to lay blame on people. I gotta blame Gary Booth for getting me started on this forum. I told him last June that I didn't have time for this and now I just seem to be checking it several times a day when I'm at work. It's all your fault Gary. BTW, I say Jeff will fly on April 15, 2012. "Tax Day" -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335053#335053 ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:30 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering Well, since Scott brought it up......... Come out and join us for the 3rd annual West Coast Pietenpol Gathering. It will be June 4th 2011 at Frazier Lake (1C9) and is hosted by Charlie Miller. We had a great time last year and it should be even more fun this year. I've already sent out the info sheet to those on the west coast that I have on my list but if you didn't get one or want to be added to the list I'll make it happen. I've attached a copy of the info sheet in word doc format and can get you another format if that doesn't work for you. If you have any questions email myself or Charlie. Mike Groah (have started fabric covering and should be flying at the end of the summer...... i hope) oh! and we have 3 hours ground run time on our six cylinder "aircraft engine" ________________________________ From: AircamperN11MS Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 11:52:29 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. OK guys, I fly behind a Cont. C-85-12F and have friends who fly what used to be an auto engine. You know like the Model A, Corvair, Model T, yes I said T. I have in-fact personally flown all three of these and more. The Model T was in Chris Essgards Sky Scout that our old friend Bernie built (yes the original) and the Model A was Gar Williams Sky Scout that Bernie also built. Anyway, to the point here. I understand that everyone here is having fun poking at each other (and some of it is pretty funny) so here is my personal thought. It seems to me that after you take the engine out of whatever car it used to be in, it is no longer and auto engine. Once it is install in an aircraft I consider it to be an aircraft engine. Whatever engine happens to be pulling us around the sky doesn't really matter because we all come home the same way. With bugs in our teeth. If you don't believe me, then start checking everyone's teeth when the arrive at the next Piet gathering wherever that ! may be. You can all check mine at the Frazier Lake gathering in June. Now continue the jousting! -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335047#335047 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 01:12:24 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (info sheet) Ok ... I forgot to attach the info sheet. here it is:..... Mike Groah ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:23 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wings Yeah, the first six I glued are affixed permanently. I glued up the balance of the right wing today. Well there is a difference in the rib spacing so the inspectors will have something to talk about. I don't care, as long as it flies -- I ain't trying to win any beauty pageants. Bought a Corvair project for Tom Brant in Minnesota and got in line with Dan Weseman for a 5th bearing assembly. Gonna go get some welding instruction tommorrow. About all the welding left is the landing gear and wing struts. Hope to get it in the air and time flown off in time to fly to Barnwell SC for a Corvair 'college' in November. Gotta get hot. If I didn't have to sleep i could get a lot more done :0) Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wings Looks good Chuck. Don't worry about the bracing wire clearance. I had some interference problems and added (or subtracted) small pieces to my rib structure in order to accommodate the wire location. I did not want to move my ribs from side-to-side, as I thought it might be detected by some astute inspectors at Brodhead. :O) My ribs are fastened to the LE (per plans) AND glued to the spars. Just make darn sure you like the way things line-up, because (as I'm sure you are well-aware) after gluing a few ribs, you "aint gonna" move anything on that wing. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Charles Campbell To: pietenpol-list Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 5:08 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: wings My first shot at glueing ribs to spars using T88. Will let you know tomorrow whether I got it mixed properly. ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 01:17:20 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wings Yeah -- about a year. The wood is Douglas fir and yes on a couple of pieces the grain is a little wavy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Perez To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wings I noticed the heavy/wavy grain as well. What type wood are the spars Charles? I still can't believe how fast you are building this plane! How long has it been now? MAYBE a year? Glad to see it coming together...very exciting times. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:23 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing Looks good! Wish I were that far along. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bender" Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing > > > well..kinda had a big morning... > just trying on my wing for the first time. > need to level it up and do some measuring but it looks like a plane now. > my friends who didn't get it before will be able to see now. > > jeff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335027#335027 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing3_885.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing2_186.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing1_638.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:28 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing Hear! Hear! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Phillips" Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing > > > Looks beautiful Jeff, but I see a real problem. Hangar's too clean. How > do > you ever expect to spend hours searching for a tool in such a hangar? > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:22 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing > > > > well..kinda had a big morning... > just trying on my wing for the first time. > need to level it up and do some measuring but it looks like a plane now. > my friends who didn't get it before will be able to see now. > > jeff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335027#335027 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing3_885.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing2_186.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing1_638.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 01:57:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing From: "aerocarjake" Fantastic... what a living sculpture...! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335060#335060 ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 02:13:17 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing From: "Brett Phillips" Jeff: I will agree that the FGM control system is neat looking and works fine, but my biggest complaint is that the aileron cables are easy to step on when getting situated in the rear cockpit. You really have to be careful not to catch a heal when getting in and out. The "Improved Air Camper" control system uses a horn on the control column and the cables exit the fuselage vertically, thus keeping them away from your feet. It really is an improvement in my opinion... Brett Phillips Strasburg, VA NX311GP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335061#335061 ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 03:35:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wings From: Andrew M Eldredge My opinion on beauty pagents is that they can wait for my second (or third) project... If I feel like it. I've got enough learning to slow me down on my first anyhow. Andrew On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Charles Campbell wrote: > Yeah -- about a year. The wood is Douglas fir and yes on a couple of > pieces the grain is a little wavy. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Michael Perez > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2011 9:37 AM > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: wings > > I noticed the heavy/wavy grain as well. What type wood are the spars > Charles? > > I still can't believe how fast you are building this plane! How long has it > been now? MAYBE a year? > > Glad to see it coming together...very exciting times. > > Michael Perez > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > * > * > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > -- Andrew Eldredge Sahuarita, AZ ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:17 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings From: "Billy McCaskill" While we're on the subject of wings, how much rib capstrip does one usually order to compete the wing ribs? I'm getting close to making an order from Aircraft Spruce, and woud like to know how much to order without ordering way too much. Since I have my tail section built, I don't need capstrip for those component... Thanks for any input! -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335064#335064 ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:09 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings Without trying to be flippant (well, maybe a little, Billy), what I did and most people have done is to take a tape measure and add up the lengths of the uprights and diagonals, then add the upper and lower capstrips. Multiply that answer by 30. As I recall, I used 3 6' pices of 1/4" x 1/2" spruce per rib, but this was 15 years ago so check my memory (and my math). Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy McCaskill Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings While we're on the subject of wings, how much rib capstrip does one usually order to compete the wing ribs? I'm getting close to making an order from Aircraft Spruce, and woud like to know how much to order without ordering way too much. Since I have my tail section built, I don't need capstrip for those component... Thanks for any input! -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335064#335064 ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings From: "Bill Church" Jack's memory seems to be working pretty good. Three 6 foot pieces per rib works out nicely, for the REAL Pietenpol ribs, anyway - maybe different if you're using the Riblett airfoil. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335066#335066 ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) From: "ken.riffic.@gmail.com" Sent from my LG phone airlion wrote: >Won't do any good Jack. When the corvair fails the piet will glide like a rock- >just like Icarus did when his wings melted. Gardiner > > >________________________________ >From: Jack Phillips >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 10:06:48 AM >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) > > >Well, I wondered from your post saying he got his private license at 16, since >you cant get a private ASEL until age 17. > >Knowing how to fly a glider will put him in good shape if you decide to power >your Pietenpol with a Corvair. Hell probably need such training. J > >Jack Phillips >NX899JP Icarus Plummet >Raleigh, NC > > >________________________________ > >From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo >Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:26 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) > >Jack > >He and I love flying gliders, we joined a glider club in Middletown NY about 3 >years ago. Its a different world from the power flying I've been doing over the >last 15 years. We picked up a schweitzer 1-34 a couple of years ago and are >flying the pants off of it. And the best part is because its a glider, we did >not have to decide what kind of engine to put in it! LOL > >Chuck >do not archive >On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: >So how does your son like flying gliders? > >Jack Phillips >NX899JP Icarus Plummet >Raleigh, NC > > >________________________________ > >From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Waldo >Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:02 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Sun-Fun (Where's Waldo??) > >I'm thinking the hat and glasses worked pretty good for my son and Piet >co-builder last Halloween....Of course it might also be because he solo'd at 14 >and got his private on his 16th birthday (Another proud dad!)........... > >Chuck Waldo >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Charles Waldo >Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM >Subject: Sun-Fun >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > >Folks > > For those going to Sun-Fun, just wondering if some of the Piet group will be >getting together on Saturday April 2nd, and if so where and when. I'd really >like to put some faces on the names on this list that I've been lurking on for >the past year. My son and I have been to Oshkosh many times, but this is a >first trip to Sun-Fun so we really don't know what to expect. If possible, my >son and I would love to sit in a couple of Piet's to get an idea of what we are >getting ourselves into....... > >Chuck Waldo > >PS: Plans purchased a year ago, Cad work just about done (see attached), work >shop just about ready to go...wood to be purchased when shop is >ready.........Please don't ask which engine I'm going to use ;) > > > > > > >" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >ttp://forums.matronics.com >_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >http://forums.matronics.com >http://www.matronics.com/con==================== ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:44 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: trying on a wing In my experience it's much harder to find your tools in a clean shop. The last place you think of looking is where they're supposed to be. :-) Clif How do > you ever expect to spend hours searching for a tool in such a hangar? > > Jack Phillips ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 08:58:16 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing It's a heavy burden, Scott! Fortunately, I have a breath-taking, 100hp Corvair to help me carry it, when the time comes... Gary Corvair Powered Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AircamperN11MS Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:10 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing Since we are now starting to lay blame on people. I gotta blame Gary Booth for getting me started on this forum. I told him last June that I didn't have time for this and now I just seem to be checking it several times a day when I'm at work. It's all your fault Gary. BTW, I say Jeff will fly on April 15, 2012. "Tax Day" -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335053#335053 ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 09:02:01 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering Good job on the flyer, Mike! Only 1497 more hours to go on your engine.and we'll have two squirrels for the stew. Gary Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Groah Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:01 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering Well, since Scott brought it up......... Come out and join us for the 3rd annual West Coast Pietenpol Gathering. It will be June 4th 2011 at Frazier Lake (1C9) and is hosted by Charlie Miller. We had a great time last year and it should be even more fun this year. I've already sent out the info sheet to those on the west coast that I have on my list but if you didn't get one or want to be added to the list I'll make it happen. I've attached a copy of the info sheet in word doc format and can get you another format if that doesn't work for you. If you have any questions email myself or Charlie. Mike Groah (have started fabric covering and should be flying at the end of the summer...... i hope) oh! and we have 3 hours ground run time on our six cylinder "aircraft engine" _____ From: AircamperN11MS Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 11:52:29 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Back to Corvairs...I guess. OK guys, I fly behind a Cont. C-85-12F and have friends who fly what used to be an auto engine. You know like the Model A, Corvair, Model T, yes I said T. I have in-fact personally flown all three of these and more. The Model T was in Chris Essgards Sky Scout that our old friend Bernie built (yes the original) and the Model A was Gar Williams Sky Scout that Bernie also built. Anyway, to the point here. I understand that everyone here is having fun poking at each other (and some of it is pretty funny) so here is my personal thought. It seems to me that after you take the engine out of whatever car it used to be in, it is no longer and auto engine. Once it is install in an aircraft I consider it to be an aircraft engine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.