---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/26/11: 33 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:10 AM - Mark Langford's Corvair Valve Job (Jack) 2. 07:40 AM - WAAAM (aerocarjake) 3. 07:50 AM - Re: WAAAM (aerocarjake) 4. 08:30 AM - Re: WAAAM (jarheadpilot82) 5. 09:42 AM - Re: Re: trying on a wing (Jim Boyer) 6. 09:48 AM - Re: WAAAM (K5YAC) 7. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: WAAAM (Ryan Mueller) 8. 10:28 AM - Re: WAAAM (jarheadpilot82) 9. 10:42 AM - Re: WAAAM (K5YAC) 10. 10:50 AM - Re: WAAAM (K5YAC) 11. 10:53 AM - Re: WAAAM (aerocarjake) 12. 11:06 AM - Re: WAAAM (aerocarjake) 13. 11:35 AM - Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode (K5YAC) 14. 11:38 AM - Re: WAAAM (K5YAC) 15. 12:24 PM - Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode (Ryan Mueller) 16. 12:50 PM - Re: WAAAM (aerocarjake) 17. 12:55 PM - Re: WAAAM (aerocarjake) 18. 02:18 PM - Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode (K5YAC) 19. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode (Ryan Mueller) 20. 04:25 PM - Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode (jarheadpilot82) 21. 04:31 PM - Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode (K5YAC) 22. 04:40 PM - Corvair shown on The Aviators (Gboothe5) 23. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode (Kip and Beth Gardner) 24. 04:43 PM - Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode (jarheadpilot82) 25. 05:03 PM - Progress (Gary Boothe) 26. 05:06 PM - Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think........... (helspersew@aol.com) 27. 05:14 PM - Re: Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think........... (Gary Boothe) 28. 05:45 PM - Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Conti... (Piet2112) 29. 05:59 PM - Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Conti... (Piet2112) 30. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Conti... (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com) 31. 06:15 PM - FW: Visit to John McPherson (Gary Boothe) 32. 06:43 PM - Re: Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think........... (Ben Charvet) 33. 11:49 PM - Re: Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think........... (Dennis Vetter) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:46 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mark Langford's Corvair Valve Job In this months Experimenter... http://www.n56ml.com/corvair/valvejob.html Jack DSM C-85 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:16 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: WAAAM From: "aerocarjake" I visited the Western Antique Aeroplane and Automobile Museum (WAAAM) yesterday and thought I'd share the Pietenpol they have on display next to a row of early Ford cars. If you ever get to Hood River Oregon, you don't want to miss this one.......... 100,000 square feet of hangar almost 80 vintage planes (which ALL fly) and as many vintage cars. One of the best collections of Golden Era flying aeroplane in the world - no exaggeration...! I' beeen before and yesterday their director of restoration took me around and through their shop - WOW! (Current project is the prototype Stearman (yes the VERY first one) They also have Curtis Jenny serial number one - yes it flies..........!) THANK-YOU Tom...... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335081#335081 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag0183_156.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "aerocarjake" http://www.waaamuseum.org/ -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335082#335082 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:57 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "jarheadpilot82" I took the liberty of resizing the photo as it was much bigger than my screen. I hope other folks enjoy the great photo in a little bit easier to see size. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335083#335083 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag0183_156_lowres_128.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:29 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: trying on a wing Gary, How about a current photo=C2- of=C2- your Piet? It should be a lot fart her along than the last photo you showed a couple of days ago. Cheers, Jim Hope this goes through okay Do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:22 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "K5YAC" Or you could do it like this (below)... but it is pointless to try Terry. When I first came on the boards (or e-mail list as some oooold timers insist on calling it... yes, I know, I can read the top of the page too... It clearly states "Email List"), I offered a couple of suggestions on how to better display images and such. You would have thought I had suggested making a modification that wasn't specifically spelled out in the plans... another huge no-no. [Rolling Eyes] So, I may as well share with you what many consider to be rule #1 around here... Don't disconcert the masses. Some of these guys are VERY sensitive about their ancient way of doing things. Kind of like the way that this text runs waaaay out to the right because many insist on using the "Attach" feature rather than inserting a simple line of code. I guess it has something to do with the way the emailers want it done. I know that I'm in deep "you know what" just for writing this, but it is cold and rainy here today, so I have nothing better to do. [Laughing] -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335086#335086 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: Ryan Mueller Yeah, this cranky old-fart "electronic mail". I dunno....messages show up just fine in my Gmail, no formatting issues. Never have to wait for attachments load, unless I choose to click on them. If I'm not at the computer I can just grab one of the mobile devices and punch up the email to see what's been posted. No need to wait for a website to load, pinching and zooming all over the place, website not displaying correctly, trying to find little buttons to Reply, etc. You kids and your "World Wide Web". Bah.... ;) Ryan do not archive On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:46 AM, K5YAC wrote: > > Or you could do it like this (below)... but it is pointless to try Terry. > When I first came on the boards (or e-mail list as some oooold timers > insist on calling it... yes, I know, I can read the top of the page too... > It clearly states "Email List"), I offered a couple of suggestions on how to > better display images and such. You would have thought I had suggested > making a modification that wasn't specifically spelled out in the plans... > another huge no-no. [Rolling Eyes] > > So, I may as well share with you what many consider to be rule #1 around > here... Don't disconcert the masses. > > Some of these guys are VERY sensitive about their ancient way of doing > things. Kind of like the way that this text runs waaaay out to the right > because many insist on using the "Attach" feature rather than inserting a > simple line of code. I guess it has something to do with the way the > emailers want it done. I know that I'm in deep "you know what" just for > writing this, but it is cold and rainy here today, so I have nothing better > to do. [Laughing] > > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335086#335086 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "jarheadpilot82" Mark, Not to 'muck up' the "email list" here, how about emailing me separately and 'splain to me the code to keep everything to the left. That way I can read my own messages correctly. And I will add your 'rule' to my list of rules for this forum. Just a new guy figurin' out how to fit in! jarheadpilot82/at/hotmail/dot/com -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335088#335088 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:23 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "K5YAC" Yeah, it shows up fine in my mail too, but the sequence is all f'd up and for those that choose to web it, the formatting kind of sucks... otherwise it's good stuff. I know, I know, it's a great resource and I should just leave it alone... and I will. Just trying to spare Terry from the wrath of John Recine and others coming along and asking, "what does photo sizing have to do with building a Piet." Kids? Funny. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335093#335093 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:03 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "K5YAC" Hey Terry, I'm just funnin around more than anything. Don't take anything here too seriously. :D I will start another post where we can all rag on each other over the pros and cons of email vs. web. I'm afraid I've jacked Tom's thread on WAAAM, which looks pretty cool by the way. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335094#335094 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:53:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "aerocarjake" Yeah., sorry.... I published this post (and this reply) from my fancy new Droid and I have not yet figured out how to resize images on this thing.......... I had been doing all the posts from a PC. Now back to installing the master bathroom floor so I can then get back to the Piet. The remodel has set that on hold for a couple weeks. I'll spare you all oversize images of that (ha!) -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335095#335095 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:06:13 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "aerocarjake" P.S. it's not a post by Tom, i was trying to publicly thank Tom Murphy who is WAAAM's director of restoration...... signed Jake. -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335096#335096 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:36 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode From: "K5YAC" * * * * * NOT PIET RELATED * * * * * Terry and others... as for the code used to provide cleaner formatting for Web readers... there are a few simple Bulletin Board codes (or BBCodes) that you might find handy. Hows that for old Ryan? Been hitting the BBS since the early 80s using my tricked out Tandy-1000 and my 300 baud modem. LOL! By simply starting and ending strings with certain commands, called tags, you can present items in line with text rather than those big space hogging frames. However, none of them will correct poor formatting (i.e. huge images or incorrect paths). For example, if you wanted to insert an image you would type... [img]insert path here[/img] Rather that the text "insert path here', you would insert an actual path... such as http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/images/Pietenpol%20Air%20Camper-1.jpg Like this! The path should reference an image that is available on the web... if the file is stored locally you will need to upload it to flicker, photo bucket or some other web based storage and reference that path, or just use the attach feature if you don't mind one of those big frames. Sound difficult? It's not. There are others, like [url], which will let you insert a web path, but it's not generally necessary... just type a web path and it will be recognized and a hyper link created. The one I've found most useful is [IMG], but there are others here that you can review here http://www.bbcode.org/reference.php. Not all BB tags work in all forums. Such as the [youtube] or [gvideo] tags... I don't believe that they work here. Hope this helps a little. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335097#335097 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:38:13 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "K5YAC" Roger that, Jake... sorry. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335098#335098 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode From: Ryan Mueller Ah yes, I remember hanging out at my buddy's house playing around on the old IBM in the basement....I think it was an AT, signing in to Gateway BBS in Rockford to play Legend of the Red Dragon. Yes, we could teach them BBCodes.....or they could just join the proper email list and be done with it. ;) (just poking fun) Ryan do not archive On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:33 PM, K5YAC wrote: > > * * * * * NOT PIET RELATED * * * * * > > Terry and others... as for the code used to provide cleaner formatting for > Web readers... there are a few simple Bulletin Board codes (or BBCodes) that > you might find handy. Hows that for old Ryan? Been hitting the BBS since > the early 80s using my tricked out Tandy-1000 and my 300 baud modem. LOL! > > By simply starting and ending strings with certain commands, called tags, > you can present items in line with text rather than those big space hogging > frames. However, none of them will correct poor formatting (i.e. huge > images or incorrect paths). > > For example, if you wanted to insert an image you would type... > > [img]insert path here[/img] > > Rather that the text "insert path here', you would insert an actual path... > such as > http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/images/Pietenpol%20Air%20Camper-1.jpg > > Like this! > > > The path should reference an image that is available on the web... if the > file is stored locally you will need to upload it to flicker, photo bucket > or some other web based storage and reference that path, or just use the > attach feature if you don't mind one of those big frames. Sound difficult? > It's not. > > There are others, like [url], which will let you insert a web path, but > it's not generally necessary... just type a web path and it will be > recognized and a hyper link created. > > The one I've found most useful is [IMG], but there are others here that you > can review here http://www.bbcode.org/reference.php. Not all BB tags work > in all forums. Such as the [youtube] or [gvideo] tags... I don't believe > that they work here. > > Hope this helps a little. > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335097#335097 > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "aerocarjake" No problem Roger. (ha!) -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335103#335103 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: WAAAM From: "aerocarjake" P.P.S. Mark, thanks for keeping your kit log.... it has been really nice to follow your progress.... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335104#335104 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode From: "K5YAC" For us it was the C-64 or Tandy, and the BBS of choice was Fargo, ND. A long distance call, but we just had to download munchkins, or whatever other totally lame game (by today's standards) we had to have. I know you are just poking fun. :) -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335112#335112 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:39 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode From: Ryan Mueller Oh yeah.....the C-64 was the first computer I was ever exposed to. A friend in the neighborhood, a year older, had one (his Dad was a programmer/computer guy). I remember us sitting in front of that thing playing Star Wars, Blue Max, Winter/Summer Games, Quest for Tires (if it wasn't based on, it sure looked like the "B.C." comic strip), etc. Good times indeed.... :) Ryan do not archive On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:16 PM, K5YAC wrote: > > For us it was the C-64 or Tandy, and the BBS of choice was Fargo, ND. A > long distance call, but we just had to download munchkins, or whatever other > totally lame game (by today's standards) we had to have. > > I know you are just poking fun. :) > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335112#335112 > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode From: "jarheadpilot82" WOW!! I feel like I upset the apple cart by trying to resize a photo.[s]Yikes![/s] [move]just trying to join the group.[/move] I will be on the forum (or is it 'email list'?) in the near future asking construction questions. I like this group already! -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335119#335119 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode From: "K5YAC" You didn't [i}upset[/i] or upset anything... you were merely on the verge on disconcerting... that's all. You are getting off easy... I was not so fortunate. :? -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335120#335120 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:40:49 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair shown on The Aviators I didn't see this episode...just forwarding from another list... "The Aviators on PBS Episode 8 air date 10-25-10. The only engine shown on the episode was a Corvair. They also had short segments about home building metal, wood and composite construction...." Gary Boothe Corvair Powered _________________________________________________________ search the CorvAircraft archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/corvairsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from CorvAircraft, send a message to CorvAircraft-leave@mylist.net Other CorvAircraft list info is at http://www.krnet.org/corvaircraft_inst.html ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:40:59 PM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode C-64 was my first work computer - used a terminal emulator to hook up to the local university networks. Of course, when things were slow in the lab, Blue Max and Pac Man were popular :). Kip Gardner On Mar 26, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > Oh yeah.....the C-64 was the first computer I was ever exposed to. A > friend in the neighborhood, a year older, had one (his Dad was a > programmer/computer guy). I remember us sitting in front of that > thing playing Star Wars, Blue Max, Winter/Summer Games, Quest for > Tires (if it wasn't based on, it sure looked like the "B.C." comic > strip), etc. Good times indeed.... :) > > Ryan > > do not archive > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:16 PM, K5YAC wrote: > > For us it was the C-64 or Tandy, and the BBS of choice was Fargo, > ND. A long distance call, but we just had to download munchkins, or > whatever other totally lame game (by today's standards) we had to > have. > > I know you are just poking fun. :) > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335112#335112 > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:38 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Disconcerting the Masses - BBCode From: "jarheadpilot82" They are probably taking pity on the grey hair... -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335123#335123 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:21 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress Jim Boyer, Thanks for asking! Hope your knee is healing fast...you got some catchin=99 up to do! Not too much change in the picture, however: Fuel is all hooked up all the way to carb. Most of the electric is done. Wingtip bows are made. Leading edges are made. Almost done with metal fittings for wings. Next projects: Finish electric Run engine on Fuse Start wings Gary Boothe Corvair Powered ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:19 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think........... From: helspersew@aol.com Hello all you G.P's, Did you ever think about how much faith is put into the lowly cotter pin? I warn you, if you dwell on this subject too long you will begin to scare yo urself. I remember a few years ago when I did a test run of my engine and I had the airplane completely assembled (no cover) with all the castle nuts just hand tight. After a few minutes of ground run almost every one of tho se little suckers was on the ground, control cables hanging etc. What if ju st one of the cotter pins failed on the bellcrank connections? I guess one can console oneself a little, by thinking that most of those pesky little c ritters can be inspected prior to each flight, but what about the ones you can't look at??? I have scared myself sufficiently, as to contemplate fabr icating a "hybrid" safety mechanism for those hidden bellcrank connections. ............ How about this idea? Take a nylon lock nut, drill a cotter pin hole in it, so it can be threaded-on just short of being tight, and insert ing a cotter pin. That way, you can have a nice warm, fuzzy, and secure fee ling of having all those AN3 sized bolts double safetied. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:21 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think........... Dan, I'll have to think about your idea, but thanks for the new thread! I did not understand a word those guys were saying.. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, Running! Tail done, Fuselage on gear, RIBS DONE! _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think........... Hello all you G.P's, Did you ever think about how much faith is put into the lowly cotter pin? I warn you, if you dwell on this subject too long you will begin to scare yourself. I remember a few years ago when I did a test run of my engine and I had the airplane completely assembled (no cover) with all the castle nuts just hand tight. After a few minutes of ground run almost every one of those little suckers was on the ground, control cables hanging etc. What if just one of the cotter pins failed on the bellcrank connections? I guess one can console oneself a little, by thinking that most of those pesky little critters can be inspected prior to each flight, but what about the ones you can't look at??? I have scared myself sufficiently, as to contemplate fabricating a "hybrid" safety mechanism for those hidden bellcrank connections............. How about this idea? Take a nylon lock nut, drill a cotter pin hole in it, so it can be threaded-on just short of being tight, and inserting a cotter pin. That way, you can have a nice warm, fuzzy, and secure feeling of having all those AN3 sized bolts double safetied. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:45:52 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Conti... From: "Piet2112" Today I disassembled my Stromberg NA-S3/B carb to verify the venturi and jet were correct for my C-85. The venturi was correct and the jet appears to a #49 jet reamed to a #45 which is correct. I too have a neoprene needle that appears to be in great conditiond, but the seat is a sharp edged one for the stainless needle. Dave, If Matt doesn't want you seat, I sure could use it in my carb. If he does, does anyone else have one they'd like to swap? Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335133#335133 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/stromberg_needles1_188.pdf ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:21 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Conti... From: "Piet2112" Matt, I found an official reference about the needles and seats. 46-04-02 CULVER: (Was Service Note 6 of AD-730-2.) Applies Only to Model LCA Having Stromberg Model NA-S3A1 Carburetors Installed. When inspecting or replacing carburetor float needle or needle seat, a check should be made to assure that when a rubber tipped needle is used, a seat having rounded edges is installed. Sharp-edged seats, when used with a rubber tipped needle, will cause sticking and cutting of the rubber tip. (This matter is also covered by Continental Service Bulletin No. M45-6 dated May 25, 1945, and Stromberg Aircraft Carburetor Service Bulletin No. 71.) Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335135#335135 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:45 PM PST US From: SENTUCHOWS@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rounded Seat for Delrin Needle, Stromberg Carb, Conti... I have not heard from Matt. If he doesn't want it you are welcome to it. Dave ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:15:10 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: FW: Visit to John McPherson From: Gary Boothe Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 5:50 PM Subject: Visit to John McPherson Today, fellow builder Mike Weaver & I had the very great pleasure to visit local Piet builder John McPherson. You haven't heard of John McPherson? Well, that's because, believe it or not, John has no idea how to access the Pietenpol List! Yet he continues to plod along...He started his project in 1995, and is almost ready to cover. John's background is flight control engineering in the Airforce. You can see some influence from his past in pictures 008 and 009. I especially liked how he linked his rudder pedals in 008! He has the hard wire technique mastered, and used that on his tail wires - 004. All you builders interested in avoiding the cost of turnbuckles may be interested in 016. John bought hard wire from ACS and threaded it himself...my Hero for the Day! John needs some help with his mags, pictured in 015. Does anyone have any experience with these? Although Mike & I are Corvair guys, we happily encourage anyone who wants to use an alternative engine, and I promised to put the question to the List! Gary Boothe ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:36 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think........... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Thanks, Dan, now I have something else to keep me up at night! > Ben Charvet Titusville, Fl > > Did you ever think about how much faith is put into the lowly cotter > pin? I warn you, if you dwell on this subject too long you will begin > to scare yourself. I remember a few years ago when I did a test run of > my engine and I had the airplane completely assembled (no cover) with > all the castle nuts just hand tight. After a few minutes of ground > run almost every one of those little suckers was on the ground, > control cables hanging etc. What if just one of the cotter pins failed > on the bellcrank connections? I guess one can console oneself a > little, by thinking that most of those pesky little critters can be > inspected prior to each flight, but what about the ones you can't look > at??? I have scared myself sufficiently, as to contemplate > fabricating a "hybrid" safety mechanism for those hidden bellcrank > connections............. How about this idea? Take a nylon lock > nut, drill a cotter pin hole in it, so it can be threaded-on just > short of being tight, and inserting a cotter pin. That way, you can > have a nice warm, fuzzy, and secure feeling of having all those AN3 > sized bolts double safetied. > > Dan Helsper > > Puryear, TN. > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > * * > * > > > * -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 11:49:46 PM PST US From: Dennis Vetter Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think........... Yeah! I still have the habbit of using blue Loctite on aircraft lock nu ts. Figure that out. Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yaawwn.....new thread needed- Did you ever think.. ......... From: helspersew@aol.com Hello all you G.P's=2C Did you ever think about how much faith is put into the lowly cotter pin? I warn you=2C if you dwell on this subject too long you will begin to scare yourself. I remember a few years ago when I did a test run of my engine and I had the airplane completely assembled (no cover) with all the castle nut s just hand tight. After a few minutes of ground run almost every one of t hose little suckers was on the ground=2C control cables hanging etc. What i f just one of the cotter pins failed on the bellcrank connections? I guess one can console oneself a little=2C by thinking that most of those pesky li ttle critters can be inspected prior to each flight=2C but what about the o nes you can't look at??? I have scared myself sufficiently=2C as to contem plate fabricating a "hybrid" safety mechanism for those hidden bellcrank co nnections............. How about this idea? Take a nylon lock nut=2C drill a cotter pin hole in it=2C so it can be threaded-on just short of being tig ht=2C and inserting a cotter pin. That way=2C you can have a nice warm=2C f uzzy=2C and secure feeling of having all those AN3 sized bolts double safet ied. Dan Helsper Puryear=2C TN. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.