---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/30/11: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:09 AM - Re: Re: wings (Charles Campbell) 2. 06:58 AM - Charles' spars (Douwe Blumberg) 3. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: wings (Michael Perez) 4. 08:00 AM - Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (VanDy) 5. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Jack Phillips) 6. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Ryan Mueller) 7. 12:02 PM - Re: wings (womenfly2) 8. 12:36 PM - Re: Charles' spars (Charles Campbell) 9. 01:46 PM - Re: Charles' spars (Richard Schreiber) 10. 06:31 PM - Re: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin (Matthew VanDervort) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:23 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings My whole problem was when I bought the lumber I looked at the grain on the short (3/4) side of the board and it looked OK, even though I didn't take a ruler and measure the grain runout. After the guy at the FSDO explained to me that I should have looked at the grain on the 6" side of the board did I realize the mistake I had made. That mistake cost me a couple hundred dollars plus a bunch of lost time. I spent two evenings routing out the rear spars -- which I will have to do again with the new spars. I would especially like to thank the person who originally E-mailed me about this, expressing concern over my spars. I think the "handle" was like womenfly2 or something like that. I couldn't find it in the piet list. If you read this, "Thanks, anyway." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clif Dawson" Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:31 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings > > Second that. I went back for another look and > something I haven't seen stressed is the grain > orientation. On those boards it appears to me > that some of it is at least 45. > I don't know how much you know about this > stuff so bear with me. > If you took a stack of 50 sheets of paper the > "face" is the top sheet and the "edge" then is > looking at the stack from the side. In a board > this would be "face" grain. Now if you piled up > a stack 5 ft tall then the reverse is true, the top > is now the edge and the 5 ft side is the face. This > is "edge" grain or vertical grain. > THIS is what you want your board to look like! > At least as much as possible. Personaly in my > anal retentive way I won't use anything that has > a grain angle of more than 15 off that. > > You're a good man Chuck. You faced down this > big fat demon. Bit the nasty bullet and won. > > Clif > > a number of List members that are breathing a collective sigh of relief. > You were making some of us nervous. >> The "sort of" comment above refers to the fact that you've had to take a >> step or two backwards in your project - so that part isn't such good news >> for you. However, I have a feeling that when you get those "real" spars, >> you'll feel a whole lot better. > >> Bill C. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335449#335449 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:44 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charles' spars I want to commend you Charles on your great attitude (at least here on the forum) to your little set back. I too think you made the right decision, and I'm sure it was a hard one. This kind of "taking things in stride" is a great example to us all. Keep at it!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:05 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings Good man Chuck. As stated; all of us has had to re-do a part or structure f rom time to time and scrap some "great ideas" we thought we had. One thing that you have done, that I have failed to do...when you decided on making t he change, you let the list know about it. I have changed quite a few thing s on my plane and have trashed a few "great ideas" because of the educated replies here, but I failed to notify the list that I have done so.- Very happy to see you do the right thing and glad to see that you have info rmed us of such. Michael Perez =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:36 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin From: "VanDy" Hey all, Just wondering if anyone has heard on update on them recently? Im not on the facebook or anything so i cant keep up there. Thanks! -------- www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there! almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335500#335500 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:09 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin Kyle posted an update on 3/29. He has been discharged from the hospital. Amanda will be in the hospital for several more months. She has had surgery on both hands, and has lost all fingers but her left thumb. They have also done surgery on her face to repair the fractures in her skull around her eyes, to try and save her vision. I believe she is still on a respirator (her lungs were badly seared by breathing burning gasoline). In an earlier update he said they are hoping she will regain consciousness in about 2 months. She's got a long, painful, expensive road ahead and needs ALL our prayers. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of VanDy Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin Hey all, Just wondering if anyone has heard on update on them recently? Im not on the facebook or anything so i cant keep up there. Thanks! -------- www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there! almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335500#335500 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin From: Ryan Mueller Update from yesterday, Mar 29: -------------------------------------- I know you all have been waiting for an update, sorry for the delay. I was discharged on Monday and am now playing catch up on things. It's all getting a little overwhelming. Amanda is doing well for the most part. She had a surgery yesterday. They worked on some more of her burned areas and unfortunately had to take down her left hand pinky, so now all she has left is her left thumb. They also went back in and re-set a bone fracture on her right eye to hopefully avoid her having double vision. I am praying that her vision remains just as good as it was before. She has already lost her fingers the last thing I want is her vision to be compromised. Today was a big day. They gave her a shower, rotated her more vertical again and even sat her in a chair of some sort. A lot for one day. She is now resting comfortably and is slated for another surgery on Friday. I feel so sorry for her having to go through all this, it's just not right. Thank you all again, I'll let you know when I have more. Kyle On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:38 AM, VanDy wrote: > matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> > > Hey all, > Just wondering if anyone has heard on update on them recently? > Im not on the facebook or anything so i cant keep up there. > > Thanks! > > -------- > www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there! > > almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335500#335500 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings From: "womenfly2" Thanks for the kind words. Everyone here shares equally with the help, that is what forums like this are for. The most important thing is you will have a safe airplane when finished and a long life to enjoy it. "Keep the Dream" WF2 -------- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335515#335515 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:16 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Charles' spars Thanks, Douwe. No commendation needed. After I found out from the FAA man that the spars would not be accepted, I had two choices. 1). I could forget the entire project and find out something else to do every day (I'm retired from work -- the kind you get paid to do) or 2) I could buy some new spar stock, tear out the old spars and go on with the project. Of course I chose #2. Hope to fly to Brodhead one of these years. I won't make it this year, but I hope I live long enough to maybe make it another year. Incidentally, I spent most of yesterday and all of today repairing ribs that were damaged tearing the wing apart. Glad I kept the rib jig. Actually, I found after screwing up about four ribs that all I had to do was tap the ribs with a hammer (in the direction I wanted the rib to go) and the glue let go and I could just slide the rib off. I had accidentally just sort of tacked the ribs to the spars and very little damage was done. ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:30 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charles' spars I want to commend you Charles on your great attitude (at least here on the forum) to your little set back. I too think you made the right decision, and I'm sure it was a hard one. This kind of "taking things in stride" is a great example to us all. Keep at it!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:14 PM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Charles' spars Glad to hear the ribs came off so easily Chuck. I hope that will lift your spirits a little. Trying to look on the bright side, at least you know how to put the wings together! I know on mine the first wing half took 3 or 4 times as long as the other half. Regards, Rick Schreiber ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Campbell Sent: 3/30/2011 2:46:58 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Charles' spars Thanks, Douwe. No commendation needed. After I found out from the FAA man that the spars would not be accepted, I had two choices. 1). I could forget the entire project and find out something else to do every day (I'm retired from work -- the kind you get paid to do) or 2) I could buy some new spar stock, tear out the old spars and go on with the project. Of course I chose #2. Hope to fly to Brodhead one of these years. I won't make it this year, but I hope I live long enough to maybe make it another year. Incidentally, I spent most of yesterday and all of today repairing ribs that were damaged tearing the wing apart. Glad I kept the rib jig. Actually, I found after screwing up about four ribs that all I had to do was tap the ribs with a hammer (in the direction I wanted the rib to go) and the glue let go and I could just slide the rib off. I had accidentally just sort of tacked the ribs to the spars and very little damage was done. ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:30 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charles' spars I want to commend you Charles on your great attitude (at least here on the forum) to your little set back. I too think you made the right decision, and Im sure it was a hard one. This kind of taking things in stride is a great example to us all. Keep at it!! Douwe href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:31:18 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kyle and Amanda Franklin From: Matthew VanDervort Thanks for the info everybody, They will remain in my prayers Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > Update from yesterday, Mar 29: > > -------------------------------------- > I know you all have been waiting for an update, sorry for the delay. I was discharged on Monday and am now playing catch up on things. It's all gettin g a little overwhelming. > > Amanda is doing well for the most part. She had a surgery yesterday. They w orked on some more of her burned areas and unfortunately had to take down he r left hand pinky, so now all she has left is her left thumb. They also went back in and re-set a bone fracture on her right eye to hopefully avoid her h aving double vision. I am praying that her vision remains just as good as it was before. She has already lost her fingers the last thing I want is her v ision to be compromised. > > Today was a big day. They gave her a shower, rotated her more vertical aga in and even sat her in a chair of some sort. A lot for one day. She is now r esting comfortably and is slated for another surgery on Friday. I feel so so rry for her having to go through all this, it's just not right. > > Thank you all again, I'll let you know when I have more. > > Kyle > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:38 AM, VanDy wrot e: m> > > Hey all, > Just wondering if anyone has heard on update on them recently? > Im not on the facebook or anything so i cant keep up there. > > Thanks! > > -------- > www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there! > > almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335500#335500 > > > > > > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.