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1. 03:31 AM - Re: Fuselage Wedge Fillers (Jack)
2. 03:44 AM - Re: Fuselage Wedge Fillers (Jack)
3. 05:03 AM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Jack Phillips)
4. 05:14 AM - Re: [raa_national] RAA news and events, SnF storm (Piet2112)
5. 05:19 AM - Re: Fw: [raa_national] RAA news and events, SnF storm (Jack Phillips)
6. 05:32 AM - Re: Storms damage Piets (Jerry Dotson)
7. 06:40 AM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Kip and Beth Gardner)
8. 07:34 AM - Piet as Art (cjborsuk)
9. 07:53 AM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Gboothe5)
10. 08:01 AM - Re: Piet as Art (Gboothe5)
11. 08:14 AM - Re: Piet as Art (Jack Phillips)
12. 08:16 AM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Jack Phillips)
13. 08:26 AM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Kip and Beth Gardner)
14. 08:33 AM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Jack Phillips)
15. 09:49 AM - Re: Fuselage Wedge Fillers (Chris)
16. 10:40 AM - Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (jarheadpilot82)
17. 11:15 AM - Re: Piet as Art (Matt Wash)
18. 11:37 AM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Ben Charvet)
19. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Jack)
20. 12:09 PM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (jarheadpilot82)
21. 12:51 PM - Rudder Bar and Post (Jack)
22. 01:09 PM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Jack Phillips)
23. 01:31 PM - Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet (flash308)
24. 01:38 PM - Re: Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet (Chris)
25. 02:12 PM - Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (tdudley@umn.edu)
26. 02:17 PM - Re: Fuselage Wedge Fillers (tdudley@umn.edu)
27. 02:23 PM - Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (jarheadpilot82)
28. 02:34 PM - Re: Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet (flash308)
29. 02:49 PM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Gboothe5)
30. 03:30 PM - Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (tdudley@umn.edu)
31. 03:30 PM - Re: Piet as Art (kevinpurtee)
32. 03:43 PM - Re: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (Gene Rambo)
33. 04:23 PM - Re: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (Ryan Mueller)
34. 04:32 PM - Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (jarheadpilot82)
35. 05:48 PM - Re: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
36. 06:00 PM - Re: Piet as Art (Frank Metcalfe)
37. 06:07 PM - Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (Jerry Dotson)
38. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
39. 06:19 PM - Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (jarheadpilot82)
40. 06:21 PM - Re: Piet as Art (aerocarjake)
41. 06:24 PM - Re: Corvair Powered Piets (Larry Vetter)
42. 06:25 PM - Re: Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet (echobravo4)
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Subject: | Fuselage Wedge Fillers |
Tom, not sure exactly which ones you are referring to. If you follow the
plans you will not have to remove the wedges as I did here
http://www.textors.com/IMG_7497_1600x1067.jpg I re-designed the engine mount
so I did not have the cut into the cross piece as the plans called for and
others have done.
Jack
DSM
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tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Wedge Fillers
For the fuselage, plans show a total of 3 wedge fillers glued between the
fore-end spruce verticals. I am not trying to overthink, but is that it?
Built per plans, only 3 wedge fillers. All other joints are similarly
double gusseted with 1/8" plyboard. Is there a need for wedge fillers for
the other fuselage verticals?
Thanks,
Tom
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Subject: | Fuselage Wedge Fillers |
Attached is a picture from Jack Phillips as per plans for the lower engine
mounts.
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Wedge Fillers
Tom, not sure exactly which ones you are referring to. If you follow the
plans you will not have to remove the wedges as I did here
http://www.textors.com/IMG_7497_1600x1067.jpg I re-designed the engine mount
so I did not have the cut into the cross piece as the plans called for and
others have done.
Jack
DSM
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tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 7:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Wedge Fillers
For the fuselage, plans show a total of 3 wedge fillers glued between the
fore-end spruce verticals. I am not trying to overthink, but is that it?
Built per plans, only 3 wedge fillers. All other joints are similarly
double gusseted with 1/8" plyboard. Is there a need for wedge fillers for
the other fuselage verticals?
Thanks,
Tom
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Subject: | Corvair Powered Piets |
And I couldn't afford to fly mine there this year (had it there last year)
what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to Brodhead and
Oshkosh this summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it costs about half as
much to fly as the Pietenpol.
So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered
Pietenpols were knocked out of the sky.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and turned
around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the forecast
decided not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there came in over the
weekend before the weather turned to crap. I stopped by to see them Thurs
night after the storm and they were all in pretty good spirits all things
considered. Meanwhile I consider myself to be one of the luckiest Piet
owner/builders alive. Hopefully there will be at least one Continental Piet
there next year (mine)
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
OK...I'll ask the obvious question:
Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun 'n Fun?
Hmmmm..................
Gary
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Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Subject: | Re: [raa_national] RAA news and events, SnF storm |
I believe the screw in tie downs were banned at Oshkosh years ago after a similar
storm rolled through. Also a friend had three Cub Crafter Carbon Cubs tied
down using the claw at SNF that didn't pull out. They said all that did were
the corkscrew style. The cubs were surrounded on all sides by a/c carnage.
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound
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Subject: | Fw: [raa_national] RAA news and events, SnF storm |
Of course, the obvious flaw in this testing is pulling straight up on
the
tie-down. When tying your plane down, you should never put the anchor
directly under the tie-down point on the airplane. Put it out at a
45=B0
angle ahead and to the side for the wing tie-downs, and a few feet aft
for
the tail. This puts the load on the anchor as more of a side load where
any
of the anchors are better.
I used a screw type auger when I lived in south Texas and had to anchor
in
sandy soil. For the clay we have in this part of the world, I find the
Claw
works better.
Looking at the photos from SNF, I see both types dangling from broken
airplanes. That Husky on amphib floats has a nice picture of a claw
tie-dwon still attached to its rope. I think the point here is that if
your
plane is tied down with anything other than a concrete anchor in the
ramp,
if a tornado hits it, the result will not be pretty.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif
Dawson
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:05 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [raa_national] RAA news and events, SnF
storm
<cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [raa_national] RAA news and events, SnF storm
> This video is also interesting.. it puts the simple cheap pet store
doggie
> screw tie downs @ about twice as good as the claw in Florida soil !
> Provided you get it in without snapping the head off..
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loq1olceSIE
>
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Subject: | Re: Storms damage Piets |
Gardiner, Bruce and Frank,
My heart goes out to each of you. Gardiner's Piet is the only one I have seen
in person. I drooled all over it in late 2009 before it was flown. You guys don't
think for a minute you have not been in my prayers. I have just been so distraught
over your loss I just couldn't post anything until now. Hang in there
guys. Time is the only thing that can heal your wounds. I lost an airplane in
1973. I have been in your shoes...just been a long time. My wounds are healed
but the airplane is not forgotten!
We have a good group here and continue to hang out here. It will be good therapy
for y'all and US!
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | Re: Corvair Powered Piets |
Actually they technically weren't 'knocked out of the sky" - their
inherent reliability just led to the unfortunate situation of having
them on the ground in the wrong place & time.
Kip Gardner
Do not archive
On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> And I couldn=92t afford to fly mine there this year (had it there last
> year) what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to
> Brodhead and Oshkosh this summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it
> costs about half as much to fly as the Pietenpol.
>
> So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered
> Pietenpols were knocked out of the sky.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
> Raleigh, NC
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:28 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>
> I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and
> turned around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the
> forecast decided not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there
> came in over the weekend before the weather turned to crap. I
> stopped by to see them Thurs night after the storm and they were all
> in pretty good spirits all things considered. Meanwhile I consider
> myself to be one of the luckiest Piet owner/builders alive.
> Hopefully there will be at least one Continental Piet there next
> year (mine)
>
>
> Ben Charvet
> Titusville, Fl
>
> On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
> OK...I=92ll ask the obvious question:
>
> Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun =91n Fun?
> Hmmmm..................
>
> Gary
> Do not archive
>
>
> --
> Ben Charvet, PharmD
> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
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Working on my wing. Just finished putting on the leading and trailing edges and
the wing tips, so I put it all together to see how it looks. Exciting stuff!!
It looks so much like a piece of art, I decided to turn it into art. Well, to
be honest, whoever said it wasn't art already?? I hope you enjoy.
Chuck in Raleigh
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Subject: | Corvair Powered Piets |
Yes, and they will go forth, multiply, and return.
Gary
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth
Gardner
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Actually they technically weren't 'knocked out of the sky" - their inherent
reliability just led to the unfortunate situation of having them on the
ground in the wrong place & time.
Kip Gardner
Do not archive
On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
And I couldn't afford to fly mine there this year (had it there last year)
what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to Brodhead and
Oshkosh this summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it costs about half as
much to fly as the Pietenpol.
So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered
Pietenpols were knocked out of the sky.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and turned
around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the forecast
decided not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there came in over the
weekend before the weather turned to crap. I stopped by to see them Thurs
night after the storm and they were all in pretty good spirits all things
considered. Meanwhile I consider myself to be one of the luckiest Piet
owner/builders alive. Hopefully there will be at least one Continental Piet
there next year (mine)
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
OK...I'll ask the obvious question:
Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun 'n Fun?
Hmmmm..................
Gary
Do not archive
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Interesting...
I don't know Jack about art, but nice to see your wing put together!
Gary in Cool
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 7:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet as Art
Working on my wing. Just finished putting on the leading and trailing edges
and the wing tips, so I put it all together to see how it looks. Exciting
stuff!! It looks so much like a piece of art, I decided to turn it into art.
Well, to be honest, whoever said it wasn't art already?? I hope you enjoy.
Chuck in Raleigh
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I actually like the natural color the best. Beautiful work, Chuck.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet as Art
Working on my wing. Just finished putting on the leading and trailing edges
and the wing tips, so I put it all together to see how it looks. Exciting
stuff!! It looks so much like a piece of art, I decided to turn it into art.
Well, to be honest, whoever said it wasn't art already?? I hope you enjoy.
Chuck in Raleigh
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Subject: | Corvair Powered Piets |
Just like fungus
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Yes, and they will go forth, multiply, and return.
Gary
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth
Gardner
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Actually they technically weren't 'knocked out of the sky" - their inherent
reliability just led to the unfortunate situation of having them on the
ground in the wrong place & time.
Kip Gardner
Do not archive
On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
And I couldn't afford to fly mine there this year (had it there last year)
what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to Brodhead and
Oshkosh this summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it costs about half as
much to fly as the Pietenpol.
So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered
Pietenpols were knocked out of the sky.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and turned
around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the forecast
decided not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there came in over the
weekend before the weather turned to crap. I stopped by to see them Thurs
night after the storm and they were all in pretty good spirits all things
considered. Meanwhile I consider myself to be one of the luckiest Piet
owner/builders alive. Hopefully there will be at least one Continental Piet
there next year (mine)
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
OK...I'll ask the obvious question:
Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun 'n Fun?
Hmmmm..................
Gary
Do not archive
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Subject: | Re: Corvair Powered Piets |
Denial and backsliding are common when you first come out of the
closet - we understand Jack.
Kip
For God's sake, Do not archive
On Apr 3, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> Just like fungus
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:50 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>
> Yes, and they will go forth, multiply, and return=85
>
> Gary
> Do not archive
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth Gardner
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:38 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>
> Actually they technically weren't 'knocked out of the sky" - their
> inherent reliability just led to the unfortunate situation of having
> them on the ground in the wrong place & time.
>
> Kip Gardner
>
> Do not archive
>
> On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>
>
> And I couldn=92t afford to fly mine there this year (had it there last
> year) what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to
> Brodhead and Oshkosh this summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it
> costs about half as much to fly as the Pietenpol.
>
> So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered
> Pietenpols were knocked out of the sky.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
> Raleigh, NC
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:28 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>
> I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and
> turned around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the
> forecast decided not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there
> came in over the weekend before the weather turned to crap. I
> stopped by to see them Thurs night after the storm and they were all
> in pretty good spirits all things considered. Meanwhile I consider
> myself to be one of the luckiest Piet owner/builders alive.
> Hopefully there will be at least one Continental Piet there next
> year (mine)
>
>
> Ben Charvet
> Titusville, Fl
>
> On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
> OK...I=92ll ask the obvious question:
>
> Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun =91n Fun?
> Hmmmm..................
>
> Gary
> Do not archive
>
>
> --
> Ben Charvet, PharmD
> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
>
>
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>
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Subject: | Corvair Powered Piets |
I'll bet you do.
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth
Gardner
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Denial and backsliding are common when you first come out of the closet - we
understand Jack.
Kip
For God's sake, Do not archive
On Apr 3, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
Just like fungus
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Yes, and they will go forth, multiply, and return.
Gary
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth
Gardner
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Actually they technically weren't 'knocked out of the sky" - their inherent
reliability just led to the unfortunate situation of having them on the
ground in the wrong place & time.
Kip Gardner
Do not archive
On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
And I couldn't afford to fly mine there this year (had it there last year)
what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to Brodhead and
Oshkosh this summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it costs about half as
much to fly as the Pietenpol.
So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered
Pietenpols were knocked out of the sky.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and turned
around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the forecast
decided not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there came in over the
weekend before the weather turned to crap. I stopped by to see them Thurs
night after the storm and they were all in pretty good spirits all things
considered. Meanwhile I consider myself to be one of the luckiest Piet
owner/builders alive. Hopefully there will be at least one Continental Piet
there next year (mine)
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
OK...I'll ask the obvious question:
Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun 'n Fun?
Hmmmm..................
Gary
Do not archive
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Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Subject: | Fuselage Wedge Fillers |
Tom
The only wedge fillers I added are where the engine mount fittings attach to
the front of fuselage and where the landing gear fittings attach. In all the
construction photos I have seen I haven't noticed many people add fillers to
the other joints.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 5:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Wedge Fillers
--> <tdudley@umn.edu>
For the fuselage, plans show a total of 3 wedge fillers glued between the
fore-end spruce verticals. I am not trying to overthink, but is that it?
Built per plans, only 3 wedge fillers. All other joints are similarly
double gusseted with 1/8" plyboard. Is there a need for wedge fillers for
the other fuselage verticals?
Thanks,
Tom
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Subject: | Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
I am going to be in MSP on business later this week. I am trying to put on my scrounger
hat while I am there. I know that Minnesota is a part of the country
that has better choices in wood than I do down in Georgia. Does anyone know of
a wood supplier in that area? My thought is I could purchase the wood I want,
and ship it home cheaper than I can ordering it. I get a good shipping rate via
my employer. Any thoughts? Your help is greatly appreciated.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry
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The natural colored picture is frame worthy.
Congrats, beautiful work.
~Matt
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 9:31 AM, cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Working on my wing. Just finished putting on the leading and trailing edges
> and the wing tips, so I put it all together to see how it looks. Exciting
> stuff!! It looks so much like a piece of art, I decided to turn it into art.
> Well, to be honest, whoever said it wasn't art already?? I hope you enjoy.
>
> Chuck in Raleigh
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335928#335928
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Subject: | Re: Corvair Powered Piets |
It seems that at a time like this, when 3 of our brothers have lost
their airplanes in such a tragic manner we could put aside all this
Corvair trashing. These guys spent an average of 6 years each building
their airplanes, and now face the unpleasant task of rebuilding. They
mentioned the Corvair bashing when I spoke with them last Thursday
night, and I tried to backpedal it, saying it was mostly tongue in
cheek. However as it continues it makes me want to sign off of the list
for a while, since I no longer need the support and my Continental
powered Piet is still flying well and is safely at home. But for the
grace of God it would have been wrapped in the same ball as the three
Corvair Piets.
The purpose of this list is to give positive support to each other not
to belittle the efforts of others, especially when some of those Corvair
Piets had more miles/hours in the last year than nearly anyone else on
the list.
Think about it....
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
On 4/3/2011 11:13 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>
> Just like fungus
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Gboothe5
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:50 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>
> Yes, and they will go forth, multiply, and return...
>
> Gary
>
> Do not archive
>
> *From:*owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Kip
> and Beth Gardner
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:38 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>
> Actually they technically weren't 'knocked out of the sky" - their
> inherent reliability just led to the unfortunate situation of having
> them on the ground in the wrong place & time.
>
> Kip Gardner
>
> Do not archive
>
> On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>
> And I couldn't afford to fly mine there this year (had it there last
> year) what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to
> Brodhead andOshkoshthis summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it
> costs about half as much to fly as the Pietenpol.
>
> So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered
> Pietenpols were knocked out of the sky.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of*Ben
> Charvet
> *Sent:*Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:28 PM
> *To:*pietenpol-list@matronics.com <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:*Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>
> I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and
> turned around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the
> forecast decided not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there
> came in over the weekend before the weather turned to crap. I stopped
> by to see them Thurs night after the storm and they were all in pretty
> good spirits all things considered. Meanwhile I consider myself to be
> one of the luckiest Piet owner/builders alive. Hopefully there will
> be at least one Continental Piet there next year (mine)
>
>
> Ben Charvet
> Titusville, Fl
>
> On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
>
> OK...I'll ask the obvious question:
>
> Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun 'n Fun?
> Hmmmm..................
>
> Gary
>
> Do not archive
>
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> --
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> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
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Subject: | Re: Corvair Powered Piets |
Well said Ben...
Do no archive
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems that at a time like this, when 3 of our brothers have lost their a
irplanes in such a tragic manner we could put aside all this Corvair trashin
g. These guys spent an average of 6 years each building their airplanes, an
d now face the unpleasant task of rebuilding. They mentioned the Corvair ba
shing when I spoke with them last Thursday night, and I tried to backpedal i
t, saying it was mostly tongue in cheek. However as it continues it makes m
e want to sign off of the list for a while, since I no longer need the suppo
rt and my Continental powered Piet is still flying well and is safely at hom
e. But for the grace of God it would have been wrapped in the same ball as t
he three Corvair Piets.
>
> The purpose of this list is to give positive support to each other not to b
elittle the efforts of others, especially when some of those Corvair Piets h
ad more miles/hours in the last year than nearly anyone else on the list.
>
> Think about it....
>
> Ben Charvet
> Titusville, Fl
>
> On 4/3/2011 11:13 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>>
>> Just like fungus
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l
ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:50 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>>
>> Yes, and they will go forth, multiply, and return
>>
>> Gary
>> Do not archive
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l
ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth Gardner
>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:38 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>>
>> Actually they technically weren't 'knocked out of the sky" - their inhere
nt reliability just led to the unfortunate situation of having them on the g
round in the wrong place & time.
>>
>> Kip Gardner
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>>
>>
>> And I couldn=99t afford to fly mine there this year (had it there l
ast year) what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to Bro
dhead and Oshkosh this summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it costs about
half as much to fly as the Pietenpol.
>>
>> So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered Piete
npols were knocked out of the sky.
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l
ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
>> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:28 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
>>
>> I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and turne
d around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the forecast deci
ded not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there came in over the weeke
nd before the weather turned to crap. I stopped by to see them Thurs night a
fter the storm and they were all in pretty good spirits all things considere
d. Meanwhile I consider myself to be one of the luckiest Piet owner/builder
s alive. Hopefully there will be at least one Continental Piet there next y
ear (mine)
>>
>>
>> Ben Charvet
>> Titusville, Fl
>>
>> On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
>> OK...I=99ll ask the obvious question:
>>
>> Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun =98n Fu
n? Hmmmm..................
>>
>> Gary
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ben Charvet, PharmD
>> Staff Pharmacist
>> Parrish Medical center
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
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: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pie
tenpol-List
>> blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com
>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.
com/contribution
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>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
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>>
>
>
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> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
>
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Subject: | Re: Corvair Powered Piets |
Well put, Ben. I think the word we should all focus on is "Piet", realize that
we are all here to support each other and let the rest of it go, especially with
the destruction that has gone on this past week.
Do not archive.
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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Subject: | Rudder Bar and Post |
All,
The plans call for an AN5 for the top rudder bar/post connection. Is an AN4
ok for the bottom bolts for the post and brace?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Corvair Powered Piets |
Ben, I appreciate your thoughts on this and agree. I figured most people
know that my comments are very much tongue-in-cheek, since some of the
people on this list that I hold in very high regard, such as Shad Bell,
Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee, Rick Holland, PF Beck, Gardiner Mason and Gary
Boothe, just to name a few, have chosen to power their Pietenpols with
Corvairs.
I'll hold off if Gary will.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
It seems that at a time like this, when 3 of our brothers have lost their
airplanes in such a tragic manner we could put aside all this Corvair
trashing. These guys spent an average of 6 years each building their
airplanes, and now face the unpleasant task of rebuilding. They mentioned
the Corvair bashing when I spoke with them last Thursday night, and I tried
to backpedal it, saying it was mostly tongue in cheek. However as it
continues it makes me want to sign off of the list for a while, since I no
longer need the support and my Continental powered Piet is still flying well
and is safely at home. But for the grace of God it would have been wrapped
in the same ball as the three Corvair Piets.
The purpose of this list is to give positive support to each other not to
belittle the efforts of others, especially when some of those Corvair Piets
had more miles/hours in the last year than nearly anyone else on the list.
Think about it....
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
On 4/3/2011 11:13 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
Just like fungus
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Yes, and they will go forth, multiply, and return.
Gary
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip and Beth
Gardner
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Actually they technically weren't 'knocked out of the sky" - their inherent
reliability just led to the unfortunate situation of having them on the
ground in the wrong place & time.
Kip Gardner
Do not archive
On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
And I couldn't afford to fly mine there this year (had it there last year)
what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to Brodhead and
Oshkosh this summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it costs about half as
much to fly as the Pietenpol.
So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered
Pietenpols were knocked out of the sky.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and turned
around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the forecast
decided not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there came in over the
weekend before the weather turned to crap. I stopped by to see them Thurs
night after the storm and they were all in pretty good spirits all things
considered. Meanwhile I consider myself to be one of the luckiest Piet
owner/builders alive. Hopefully there will be at least one Continental Piet
there next year (mine)
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
OK...I'll ask the obvious question:
Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun 'n Fun?
Hmmmm..................
Gary
Do not archive
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Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Subject: | Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet |
What is the front and rear seat frame heights for long fuselage Pietenpol ?
The plans do not show the measurements.[/list]
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Subject: | Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet |
Same height as the short fuselage.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
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What is the front and rear seat frame heights for long fuselage Pietenpol ?
The plans do not show the measurements.[/list]
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Funny--I'm in Minnesota and get all my wood from Georgia (Peach Tree City Aircraft
Spruce). I, however, don't have the experience to select wood and rip it
to my satisfaction. Maybe Dick Navratil or Greg Cardinal could help. Or Ken
Heide?
Tom
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Subject: | Re: Fuselage Wedge Fillers |
Chris and Jack,
Thanks for your input. You answered my question. The plans call for using the
wedges in the fuse by the landing gear (but didn't show any added further aft)
and I just wanted to clarify that.
Coincidence has it I received answers from the two people I consulted in other
ways. Right after posting I looked up Jack's website and Westcoast Piet and perused
all the pics I could of fuselage's in construction. Both sites have been
real valuable in building. K5YAC's build site is also really helpful (among
others!).
Thanks again.
Tom
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Tom,
It is my understanding that all of the wood gets shipped from Aircraft Spruce West,
not East (GA). But having said that, I will check for sure. If you have contact
info for those guys you mentioned, that would be much appreciated.
I don't mind ripping, planing, and cutting my own wood. I am sort of in the endurance
run mode, not the sprint. I want to take it slow, easy, and enjoy the process.
I will finish the airplane when I finish it, and not a day sooner. I am
also in the "I found a good deal by searching and scrounging" mode as well.
Thanks for the advice.
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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Subject: | Re: Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet |
Catdesigns wrote:
> Same height as the short fuselage.
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
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May I ask what the measurements are. I am looking for distance from floor front
and back of seat. It also appears that they are different front and rear seats
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Subject: | Corvair Powered Piets |
Deal!!
Didn't mean to disconcert the masses.
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Ben, I appreciate your thoughts on this and agree. I figured most people
know that my comments are very much tongue-in-cheek, since some of the
people on this list that I hold in very high regard, such as Shad Bell,
Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee, Rick Holland, PF Beck, Gardiner Mason and Gary
Boothe, just to name a few, have chosen to power their Pietenpols with
Corvairs.
I'll hold off if Gary will.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
It seems that at a time like this, when 3 of our brothers have lost their
airplanes in such a tragic manner we could put aside all this Corvair
trashing. These guys spent an average of 6 years each building their
airplanes, and now face the unpleasant task of rebuilding. They mentioned
the Corvair bashing when I spoke with them last Thursday night, and I tried
to backpedal it, saying it was mostly tongue in cheek. However as it
continues it makes me want to sign off of the list for a while, since I no
longer need the support and my Continental powered Piet is still flying well
and is safely at home. But for the grace of God it would have been wrapped
in the same ball as the three Corvair Piets.
The purpose of this list is to give positive support to each other not to
belittle the efforts of others, especially when some of those Corvair Piets
had more miles/hours in the last year than nearly anyone else on the list.
Think about it....
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
On 4/3/2011 11:13 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
Just like fungus
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Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Yes, and they will go forth, multiply, and return.
Gary
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Gardner
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
Actually they technically weren't 'knocked out of the sky" - their inherent
reliability just led to the unfortunate situation of having them on the
ground in the wrong place & time.
Kip Gardner
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On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
And I couldn't afford to fly mine there this year (had it there last year)
what with gas prices being what they are. I hope to fly it to Brodhead and
Oshkosh this summer, but might bring the RV-4 since it costs about half as
much to fly as the Pietenpol.
So with one fell swoop, about a third of the flying Corvair powered
Pietenpols were knocked out of the sky.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Powered Piets
I was half way there when I hit a solid cloud layer (Cont A-65) and turned
around for home. I proceeded on to SNF by car, and with the forecast
decided not to try again. The 3 Piets that made it there came in over the
weekend before the weather turned to crap. I stopped by to see them Thurs
night after the storm and they were all in pretty good spirits all things
considered. Meanwhile I consider myself to be one of the luckiest Piet
owner/builders alive. Hopefully there will be at least one Continental Piet
there next year (mine)
Ben Charvet
Titusville, Fl
On 4/2/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
OK...I'll ask the obvious question:
Were Corvair powered Piets the only Piets to make it to Sun 'n Fun?
Hmmmm..................
Gary
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Terry,
I suppose I could be wrong--maybe some of my wood has shipped from the West, but
my last shipment was delayed a good 10 days because of the storm we had in February
that seemed to shut down everything from the southeast.
As for contacts, I'd bet all three are lurking this site and will be able to provide.
I don't have Ken Heide's number off hand, but if you go back a page or
two to a post I had about a Minnesota Corvair engine, Ken listed his number as
one of the replies.
Hope your trip to Minnesota is a good one. Lindbergh International, I suppose?
Tom
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I actually have a similar shot, taken by Shelley, from under the wing looking down
the length. The top fabric is draped across the top. It's framed in my office
as a black and white.
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NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Don't know about all of you=2C but I have always had better luck with Wicks
=2C aren't they in Minnesota?
Gene
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis
> From: tdudley@umn.edu
> Date: Sun=2C 3 Apr 2011 15:28:11 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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st=2C but my last shipment was delayed a good 10 days because of the storm
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ck a page or two to a post I had about a Minnesota Corvair engine=2C Ken li
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Southern IL, actually....
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
> Don't know about all of you, but I have always had better luck with Wicks,
> aren't they in Minnesota?
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> Gene
>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis
> > From: tdudley@umn.edu
> > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:28:11 -0700
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> > Terry,
> >
> > I suppose I could be wrong--maybe some of my wood has shipped from the
> West, but my last shipment was delayed a good 10 days because of the storm
> we had in February that seemed to shut down everything from the southeast.
> >
> > As for contacts, I'd bet all three are lurking this site and will be able
> to provide. I don't have Ken Heide's number off hand, but if you go back a
> page or two to a post I had about a Minnesota Corvair engine, Ken listed his
> number as one of the replies.
> >
> > Hope your trip to Minnesota is a good one. Lindbergh International, I
> suppose?
> >
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
LHR-MSP on 4/7
MSP-LHR on 4/8
If there are any Pietenpols in the immediate vicinity of MSP I would sure love
to see them. If not, I will just wait til Brodhead.
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Terry
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Tom,
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I have purchased my Okoume from a supplier in south Minneapolis. I had trie
d to contact this supplier since-but been referred to another company who
has purchassed his inventory.-
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Long story short, save your time and energy as my experience has been dissa
pointing and a complete waste of time.
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Tom, if you have a good source for your lumber, don't change unless others
here can give you a a better reason to switch.
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Ken Heide
Hawley, MN
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis
Funny--I'm in Minnesota and get all my wood from Georgia (Peach Tree City A
ircraft Spruce).- I, however, don't have the experience to select wood an
d rip it to my satisfaction.- Maybe Dick Navratil or Greg Cardinal could
help.- Or Ken Heide?
Tom
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There is no doubt about it, looking at a naked Piet is absolutely art work.
In some ways better than one with the cover on.There were times I
did not want to cover it. Keep up the great work and take a lot of picture
s. Hopefully you won=99t have to see her naked again once she gets dr
essed !! =C2---- On Sun, 4/3/11, cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet as Art
Working on my wing. Just finished putting on the leading and trailing edges
and the wing tips, so I put it all together to see how it looks. Exciting
stuff!! It looks so much like a piece of art, I decided to turn it into art
. Well, to be honest, whoever said it wasn't art already?? I hope you enjoy
.
Chuck in Raleigh
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Terry I bought all my wood from the Atlanta (Peachtree City) store. I picked it
up in my truck and saw their stock and wood mill shop. They had quite a stock
of wood,plywood and tubing. The have a semi park at the dock of the warehouse
and I asked what they were going to put in it. They said that it was full of
packing peanuts and that they used a load every couple of days! My wood was not
cheap but outstanding quality.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Terry,
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Another great stop while in Mpls may be Wentworth Aircraft Salvage. They ha
ve every aircraft salvage part one can ever need. May find turnbuckles, ins
truments, brake cylinders, etc.......
Ken Heide
Hawley, MN
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis
ail.com>
LHR-MSP- on 4/7
MSP-LHR on 4/8
If there are any Pietenpols in the immediate vicinity of MSP I would sure l
ove to see them. If not, I will just wait til Brodhead.
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Terry
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Jerry,
Thanks for the heads up! I guess I just assumed the wood came out of Aircraft Spruce
West.
I live about an hour and a half from Peachtree City. I still am going to look in
Minneapolis, but, if I have to I will drive down and get what I need. I still
want to try and find it in a less expensive way.
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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Sure looks like art to me...... beautiful...!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Subject: | Re: Corvair Powered Piets |
I don't care what they were powered with its a shame three nice Pietenpols were
damaged this way. I feel sorry for the guys that put all that time and work into
them and now see them all piled in a ball. I hope they all are rebuilt and
return to the air.
Larry
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Subject: | Re: Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet |
I think the plans show the front seat is 7 5/8" high
and the rear is 6" at the front end
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I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
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