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1. 09:46 AM - some thoughts on rebuilding (Oscar Zuniga)
2. 09:46 AM - Re: Piet as Art (TOM STINEMETZE)
3. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (Greg Cardinal)
4. 09:59 AM - Re: Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet (Catdesigns)
5. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: [raa_national] RAA news and events, SnF storm (shad bell)
6. 10:09 AM - Help! (Charles Campbell)
7. 10:31 AM - Re: Help! (Bill Church)
8. 10:50 AM - Re: Help! (Michael Perez)
9. 11:14 AM - Re: Help! (gboothe5@comcast.net)
10. 11:14 AM - Re: Piet as Art (Steve Ruse)
11. 11:15 AM - Re: Help! (TOM STINEMETZE)
12. 01:16 PM - Re: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (Greg Cardinal)
13. 01:24 PM - Re: Help! (Ben Charvet)
14. 01:45 PM - Re: some thoughts on rebuilding (kevinpurtee)
15. 02:12 PM - Douwe's article in the most recent edition of the BPA and William Wynnye and Ryan Mueller's Weight and Balance article series (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
16. 02:17 PM - Re: Piet as Art (cjborsuk)
17. 02:25 PM - Re: Re: Piet as Art (Jack Phillips)
18. 02:32 PM - Re: Douwe's article in the most recent edition of the BPA and Wi (aerocarjake)
19. 04:10 PM - Re: Douwe's article in the most recent edition of the BPA and Wi (Billy McCaskill)
20. 04:11 PM - Re: Douwe's article in the most recent edition of the BPA and Wi (Kringle)
21. 04:36 PM - Rudder Bar and Post (santiago morete)
22. 05:21 PM - Re: Piet List (Jack)
23. 05:34 PM - Re: Rudder Bar and Post (Jack)
24. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: Piet as Art (Jack)
25. 06:01 PM - Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun (Charles Campbell)
26. 06:24 PM - Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun (Jack Phillips)
27. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun (Jack)
28. 07:31 PM - Re: some thoughts on rebuilding (taildrags)
29. 07:33 PM - Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
30. 07:40 PM - "Historical reference only" (Rick Holland)
31. 07:43 PM - Re: Help! (Clif Dawson)
32. 09:20 PM - Re: Re: Piet as Art (Steve Ruse)
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| Subject: | some thoughts on rebuilding |
Like some of you on this list, I was faced with rebuilding my Piet
after an unfortunate incident. Mine was not as bad as Gardiner's,
probably not as bad as John Dilatush's, certainly not as bad as
Douwe's, worse than Kevin's and probably Jack's. None of which is
to say that I'm looking to compare the amount of sick feeling, or
anguish, or disappointment, or disheartenment that any of us felt-
but only to say that there will more than likely be setbacks for any
of us at one time or another and it is at that point that you find
out whether you were intended to fly one of these things or not.
In my case, it happened even before I had ever laid eyes on my Piet,
sat in it, or heard the engine run. In the case of our friend
Charles with his wing spars, it happened before he had even completed
his wings. It's different for every one of us who hits a big brick wall
in our stint as a Piet builder, pilot, or owner.
In my case, the rebuild after the nose-over incident was a very
educational and important time. Sort of like a nurse who comes to
know and love a patient who comes into the emergency room in serious
condition, over a period of months and years I came to know my airplane
intimately, and just as the patient one day is able to stand on his
own and take some steps, so it was with my Piet. One afternoon it
was time to start the engine, and it started! Didn't run for long,
but it was a joyful time nevertheless. Then it was the first taxi
test after rebuild, and then -what a wonderful day- that return to
service flight. Glorious. I loved every minute of the rebuild, even
the frustrating days when I would find something else that needed
attention or I had to order some materials or fabricate something else.
How did Alfred Lord Tennyson put it? "I hold it true, whate'er befall/
I feel it, when I sorrow most/ 'Tis better to have loved and lost/
Than never to have loved at all".
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
San Antonio, TX
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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I like the wood colored one myself. Nice work by the way.
My heart's still in my throat over those beautiful Piets at Sun N Fun.
It's hard to know what to say other than; My prayers are with you guys!
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "cjborsuk" <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> 4/3/2011 9:31 AM >>>
Working on my wing. Just finished putting on the leading and trailing
edges and the wing tips, so I put it all together to see how it looks.
Exciting stuff!! It looks so much like a piece of art, I decided to turn
it into art. Well, to be honest, whoever said it wasn't art already?? I
hope you enjoy.
Chuck in Raleigh
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Check with Youngblood Lumber at 612 789-3521. Their spruce supply is
erratic, I don't know if they carry marine plywood.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: <tdudley@umn.edu>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 4:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis
>
> Funny--I'm in Minnesota and get all my wood from Georgia (Peach Tree City
> Aircraft Spruce). I, however, don't have the experience to select wood
> and rip it to my satisfaction. Maybe Dick Navratil or Greg Cardinal could
> help. Or Ken Heide?
>
> Tom
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335977#335977
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| Subject: | Re: Seat frame heights for long fuselage Piet |
Referencing the sheet that says Drawing No. 1 on the top right hand corner.
Front seat is 7-5/8 inches high above the floor and appears to be level front to
back.
Rear seat is 6 inches in the front and even with the top of the extra long gusset
in the back, which would be 2-1/4 inch high from the bottom of the longeron.
Chris
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: [raa_national] RAA news and events, SnF storm |
The big problem with big fly-ins is your airplane is only as safe as the on
e tied down next to you.- If his goes flying about, it's gotta land somew
here.- We need to be a self policing (spelling) bunch, with out being see
n as a bunch of jerks.- It broke my heart to see those Piets in a big pil
e, hope they get em flying again.
-
Shad
=0A=0A=0A
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Hey! Anyone out there. I'm not getting anything.
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???
Care to elaborate?
BC
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I read you Charles.
Do Not Archive
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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It is a shame to cover all of the hard work that goes into a Piet.
I'm often popping an inspection cover off my wing to show curious
observers the work inside.
But, covering a Piet allows you to do this (pictures from my weekend):
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0581.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0579.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0619.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0642.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0566.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0533.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0489.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0647.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0658.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0672.JPG
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting Frank Metcalfe <fmetcalf@bellsouth.net>:
> There is no doubt about it, looking at a naked Piet is absolutely
> art work. In some ways better than one with the cover on.There were
> times I did not want to cover it. Keep up the great work and take a
> lot of pictures. Hopefully you wont have to see her naked again
> once she gets dressed !! --- On Sun, 4/3/11, cjborsuk
> <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet as Art
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 10:31 AM
>
>
>
> Working on my wing. Just finished putting on the leading and
> trailing edges and the wing tips, so I put it all together to see
> how it looks. Exciting stuff!! It looks so much like a piece of art,
> I decided to turn it into art. Well, to be honest, whoever said it
> wasn't art already?? I hope you enjoy.
>
> Chuck in Raleigh
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335928#335928
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Well you ain't gettin' nuthin from me.
do not archive
>>> "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net> 4/4/2011 12:05 PM >>>
Hey! Anyone out there. I'm not getting anything.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Terry,
How much time will you have in Minneapolis and how many would you like to
see?
Dale Johnson and I have 1 at SGS (South St. Paul)
Dick Navratil has 2 at OEO (Osceola, WI)
Bob Poore has 1 at LVN (Lakeville)
EAA Chapter 25 has one in the early stages of construction also at LVN
There are more......
Greg Cardinal
612 721-6235
----- Original Message -----
From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:29 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis
> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
>
> LHR-MSP on 4/7
>
> MSP-LHR on 4/8
>
> If there are any Pietenpols in the immediate vicinity of MSP I would sure
> love to see them. If not, I will just wait til Brodhead.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335997#335997
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On 4/4/2011 1:05 PM, Charles Campbell wrote:
> Hey! Anyone out there. I'm not getting anything.
> *
>
>
> *
We figured you could use a break.
Get back to work!
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: some thoughts on rebuilding |
(I'm impressed he knows any poetry...)
Well said, Oscar. If you fly them (build them, maintain them, modify them) they
will break.
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Douwe's article in the most recent edition of the BPA |
and William Wynnye and Ryan Mueller's Weight and Balance article series
I REALLY want to send a BIG congratulations out for such a WELL written art
icle by Douwe B. in the last edition of the BPA
newsletter. Just outstanding Douwe....thank you very much for your words
of wisdom and I admire your motivation in rebuilding
and not only that but rebuilding her better than she was ever or would have
been before.
And for all of you who are going to be doing weight and balance calculation
s and figuring out where to position your wing and motor,
the THREE article series by WW and Ryan Mueller are MUST READS and many tha
nk-you's should go out to them for taking time out
of their VACATION TIME to do all of those weight and balances on various Pi
etenpols and documenting the fuselage lengths, weights,
wing setbacks, etc. for all who are building or will be building and having
to do W&B Calculations.
Also a big thank you to Doc and Dee Mosher who volunteer countless hours p
utting together those newsletters, getting them to the
printer, and then sending them out to us. We all owe them a great debt o
f gratitude because that's not a paid job by any means and
I doubt if our BPA dues barely cover the costs involved. Here here to
all of you.
Mike C. in Ohio
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Steve,
That is what I call a great weekend! Where were the pics taken? Can't wait to join
you.
Thanks guys for the comments. This really is a great group. Looking forward to
meeting many of you in person. Raleigh to Brodhead is about 16 hours according
to Google maps. Might have to make that happen this summer!
Chuck
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Raleigh to Brodhead takes about 16 hours driving, but only about 15 hours by
Pietenpol. I actually did it in one day a few years ago, leaving Raleigh
(Apex) just before dawn and landing at Brodhead about 15 minutes after
sundown. Never again! My butt was sore for days, and my hearing has never
been the same.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 5:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet as Art
Steve,
That is what I call a great weekend! Where were the pics taken? Can't wait
to join you.
Thanks guys for the comments. This really is a great group. Looking forward
to meeting many of you in person. Raleigh to Brodhead is about 16 hours
according to Google maps. Might have to make that happen this summer!
Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's article in the most recent edition of the |
BPA and Wi
I will second what Mike says.... normally anything he says but the comments above
in particular......... thx [Laughing] [Laughing]
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's article in the most recent edition of the |
BPA and Wi
I agree with both Mike and Jake, the BPA newsletter is well worth the meager $16
per year. If you don't currently subscribe, you should do so at your first
opportunity! There is always a feast of useful information and encouraging stories.
My subscription ends in July, hence I'll be renewing it at Brodhead this
year.
do not archive
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's article in the most recent edition of the |
BPA and Wi
Can back issues be purchased?
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John
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| Subject: | Rudder Bar and Post |
Jack, the F&GM says 3/16 bolts for the post and 1/4 for the bracing tube
Hope this helps.
-
Santiago
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Chuck go here http://www.matronics.com/subscribe and make sure you are
subscribed. Then make sure any email from Matronics is "white listed" with
your provider Windstream. In another email I will forward you the emails
from the list today. Also I think you can view the emails here
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/pietenpol-list/index.html . And here
you can see if your email was removed from Matronics because of bouncing
emails http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed/bouncing.cgi .
Hope this helps,
Jack
_____
From: Charles Campbell [mailto:cncampbell@windstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Piet List
Jack, last week I also signed up for the Corvair list in addition to the
Piet list. Now I'm not getting either one. How can I get the Piet list to
return? I don't really care about the Corvair list -- I hear it's pretty
snotty, anyway, but I really miss the Piet list posts. HELP!
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| Subject: | Rudder Bar and Post |
It does thanks for responding Santiago!
Jack
DSM
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of santiago
morete
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 6:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Bar and Post
Jack, the F&GM says 3/16 bolts for the post and 1/4 for the bracing tube
Hope this helps.
Santiago
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Nice shots Steve, what are the "rotted out parts" you were parked next to?
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ruse
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet as Art
It is a shame to cover all of the hard work that goes into a Piet.
I'm often popping an inspection cover off my wing to show curious
observers the work inside.
But, covering a Piet allows you to do this (pictures from my weekend):
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0581.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0579.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0619.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0642.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0566.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0533.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0489.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0647.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0658.JPG
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0672.JPG
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting Frank Metcalfe <fmetcalf@bellsouth.net>:
> There is no doubt about it, looking at a naked Piet is absolutely
> art work. In some ways better than one with the cover on.There were
> times I did not want to cover it. Keep up the great work and take a
> lot of pictures. Hopefully you wont have to see her naked again
> once she gets dressed !! --- On Sun, 4/3/11, cjborsuk
> <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet as Art
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 10:31 AM
>
>
>
> Working on my wing. Just finished putting on the leading and
> trailing edges and the wing tips, so I put it all together to see
> how it looks. Exciting stuff!! It looks so much like a piece of art,
> I decided to turn it into art. Well, to be honest, whoever said it
> wasn't art already?? I hope you enjoy.
>
> Chuck in Raleigh
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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| Subject: | Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun |
Jack, I'm having some trouble with the piet list -- I'm not receiving
anything. I'm sending this as a test to see if it comes through. Do
not archive. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
After a day travelling in the mountains in Virginia with no internet,
this was a horrible thing to wake up to. My heart goes out to all the
pilots, especially our Pietenpol bunch. I'm just so glad no one was
seriously hurt.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:11 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
I've talked to Gardiner, and he and the other Piet builders are fine.
Amazingly, and thankfully, no one was injured.
As I understand it, several of the folks from Carrolton who had not
gone to Sun-N-Fun are on the road now, driving to Lakeland to help out.
Many thanks to all of you for your concern and prayers.
Best regards,
Susan Mason
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From: Ryan M <aircamperace@yahoo.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 2:53:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Were praying for all our friends out at Sun n' Fun. We're seeing a lot
of bad weather down here, reports of a tornado, damaged buildings and
aircraft.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=
PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1
Pictures;
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=
PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.
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| Subject: | Damage at Sun n' Fun |
Came through for me
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Jack, I'm having some trouble with the piet list -- I'm not receiving
anything. I'm sending this as a test to see if it comes through. Do not
archive. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack <mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Phillips
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
After a day travelling in the mountains in Virginia with no internet, this
was a horrible thing to wake up to. My heart goes out to all the pilots,
especially our Pietenpol bunch. I'm just so glad no one was seriously hurt.
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
I've talked to Gardiner, and he and the other Piet builders are fine.
Amazingly, and thankfully, no one was injured.
As I understand it, several of the folks from Carrolton who had not gone to
Sun-N-Fun are on the road now, driving to Lakeland to help out.
Many thanks to all of you for your concern and prayers.
Best regards,
Susan Mason
_____
From: Ryan M <aircamperace@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 2:53:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Were praying for all our friends out at Sun n' Fun. We're seeing a lot of
bad weather down here, reports of a tornado, damaged buildings and aircraft.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331
<http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=PHOTO
S51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1>
&Kategori=PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1
Pictures;
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331
<http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=PHOTO
S51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1>
&Kategori=PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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Buddy you are coming through!
Jack
DSM
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Jack, I'm having some trouble with the piet list -- I'm not receiving
anything. I'm sending this as a test to see if it comes through. Do not
archive. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack <mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Phillips
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
After a day travelling in the mountains in Virginia with no internet, this
was a horrible thing to wake up to. My heart goes out to all the pilots,
especially our Pietenpol bunch. I'm just so glad no one was seriously hurt.
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
I've talked to Gardiner, and he and the other Piet builders are fine.
Amazingly, and thankfully, no one was injured.
As I understand it, several of the folks from Carrolton who had not gone to
Sun-N-Fun are on the road now, driving to Lakeland to help out.
Many thanks to all of you for your concern and prayers.
Best regards,
Susan Mason
_____
From: Ryan M <aircamperace@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 2:53:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Were praying for all our friends out at Sun n' Fun. We're seeing a lot of
bad weather down here, reports of a tornado, damaged buildings and aircraft.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331
<http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=PHOTO
S51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1>
&Kategori=PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1
Pictures;
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331
<http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=PHOTO
S51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1>
&Kategori=PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Re: some thoughts on rebuilding |
Axel-? You misjudge me! No ear for poetry? I am your non-typical engineer.
I do not look down at my shoes when I speak to beautiful women but I find myself
completely at a loss for words when I stand in a cloud of blue smoke from a
big radial engine when it starts up and I hear that stammering, banging sound
of it clattering and chuffing to life. Airplanes, engines, and women all elicit
some of the most poetic things that I can express.
I can wax eloquent when I find myself in the cockpit of my Piet early of a spring
afternoon with the smell of green growing crops filling the cockpit, mingled
with the sweet smell of 100LL, wood, fabric, and hot Aeroshell as they are whipped
together by a laminated wooden prop into the richest blend of sights, smells,
and sounds that I can imagine. Don't start me to lyin'... there is really
nothing better to pique all of the senses that a pilot has available to him
or her, no matter what age.
Poetry? You'll have some of that flowing from you after you get your engine buttoned
back up and get Fat Bottomed Girl back in the air. Come back and talk
to me about poetry after you are behind the stick again.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
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| Subject: | Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis |
Different Tom here...
I have bought my wood (Doug Fir) recently from Youngblood Lumber in NE Minn
eapolis. It might be right up your alley if you're looking for something l
ess expensive than aircraft grade spruce. If you'd like to see my project
and check out the wood=2C feel free to contact me. 612-210-4103. I was lo
oking for spar material at Youngblood. What I found was=2C well.... I can
get spars from it with some ripping and gluing to remove areas with pitch
pockets. The grain in some instances has slope of around 1/2" in 15" and s
ome waves here and there but it seems to be within specs for spar material
- like I said - as long as you're willing to rip and laminate your spars.
I got (2) 16'-0" long rough cut 1 x 6 pieces for about $120 out the door.
I bought only two so I could get them home=2C plane them and make a decisio
n on their quality. I'm still waffling whether I want to laminate the spar
s or just face the music and pay ASS for aircraft grade spruce plus shippin
g. I wish I wasn't so cheap!
Just for comparison=2C I recently got a quote from ASS for my spar material
plus a shipping quote. Would be about $130 for shipping alone. So=2C fig
ure if you bought material from MN and shipped it=2C you'd add that to your
cost - maybe you're not saving much then???
Tom B.
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Looking for a wood supplier in Minneapolis
> From: jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com
> Date: Sun=2C 3 Apr 2011 10:37:59 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
tmail.com>
>
> I am going to be in MSP on business later this week. I am trying to put o
n my scrounger hat while I am there. I know that Minnesota is a part of the
country that has better choices in wood than I do down in Georgia. Does an
yone know of a wood supplier in that area? My thought is I could purchase t
he wood I want=2C and ship it home cheaper than I can ordering it. I get a
good shipping rate via my employer. Any thoughts? Your help is greatly appr
eciated.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi=2C
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335957#335957
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| Subject: | "Historical reference only" |
Hey Guys
Did you know that since our Piet plans have not been "modernized" for safety
and certification standards our Pietenpols are hereby grounded and for
"historical reference only"?
>From the latest March 31 EAA Hotline article:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*CORBEN SUPER ACE PLANS AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE*
Ace Aircraft Inc. announced it is now selling reproductions of the original
Corben Super Ace plans from 1935. As these 1935 plans have not been
modernized for current aviation safety and certification standards, these
plans are intended for "historical reference purposes only."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I am very sorry to inform you that since our Piet plans are dated 1934 and
are not modernized they must be surrendered immediately to your nearest FAA
district office. However if your Piet has been "modernized" with a
"relatively modern" Corvair engine (compared to an ancient 1939 vintage A65)
you may disregard this notice.
Have a nice day.
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Mad Dog to Mother Goose! Mad Dog to Mother Goose!"
Don't pay no mind to those other guys. :-) You're
5X5 here all the way out on the wet coast.
Clif
Unfortunately, you're on your own with this part
of the message.....
I'm not getting anything.
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I'm not sure Jack, wish I knew. My best guess is that it was some kind of
pumping unit. The brown mess up front was an engine and there was a
driveshaft going towards the back. The structural timbers were huge. The
steel was so corroded from the salts that it was soft...rusted all the way
through, even pieces still near 1" thick were just a mass of soft rust.
Almost gone entirely. It was really interesting...wish I knew what it was.
Somebody paid a lot of money and did a lot of work to get it out there...now
it is almost gone. From the construction (steel engine, large timbers,
etc.) I'd guess it was made between 1910 and 1940.
Clyde Cessna did his early flights on those salt flats. The local bankers
didn't want to back him so he went to Wichita instead, undoubtedly changing
what might have been.
I saw multiple old, old bottles...including a brown glass clorox bleach
bottle. How long has it been since clorox came in brown glass bottles?
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet as Art
>
> Nice shots Steve, what are the "rotted out parts" you were parked next to?
> Jack
> DSM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ruse
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:24 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet as Art
>
> <steve@wotelectronics.com>
>
> It is a shame to cover all of the hard work that goes into a Piet.
> I'm often popping an inspection cover off my wing to show curious
> observers the work inside.
>
> But, covering a Piet allows you to do this (pictures from my weekend):
>
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0581.JPG
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0579.JPG
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0619.JPG
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0642.JPG
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0566.JPG
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0533.JPG
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0489.JPG
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0647.JPG
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0658.JPG
> http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/salt/DSC_0672.JPG
>
> Steve Ruse
> Norman, OK
>
> Quoting Frank Metcalfe <fmetcalf@bellsouth.net>:
>
>> There is no doubt about it, looking at a naked Piet is absolutely
>> art work. In some ways better than one with the cover on..There were
>> times I did not want to cover it. Keep up the great work and take a
>> lot of pictures. Hopefully you won't have to see her naked again
>> once she gets dressed !! --- On Sun, 4/3/11, cjborsuk
>> <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet as Art
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 10:31 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> Working on my wing. Just finished putting on the leading and
>> trailing edges and the wing tips, so I put it all together to see
>> how it looks. Exciting stuff!! It looks so much like a piece of art,
>> I decided to turn it into art. Well, to be honest, whoever said it
>> wasn't art already?? I hope you enjoy.
>>
>> Chuck in Raleigh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335928#335928
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/small_yellow_wing_4_2_11_013_869.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/small_wing_4_2_11_053_996.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/small_wing_4_2_11_035_239.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/small_wing_4_2_11_030_315.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/small_wing_4_2_11_002_201.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> t
>> S WEB FORUMS -
>> on Web Site -
>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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