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1. 05:08 AM - Re: help identifying disk brake caliper (John Franklin)
2. 05:39 AM - Re: help identifying disk brake caliper (Gene Rambo)
3. 06:26 AM - Re: Speaking of Wing Sweep and CG (NX899SG)
4. 07:34 AM - Cabane Fittings (Kringle)
5. 07:39 AM - NA-S3 B Stromber Carburetor (vagabondpa15)
6. 08:07 AM - Re: NA-S3 B Stromber Carburetor (vagabondpa15)
7. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: Speaking of Wing Sweep and CG (Michael Perez)
8. 09:55 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (shad bell)
9. 11:55 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (jarheadpilot82)
10. 02:34 PM - Re: Cabane Fittings (jarheadpilot82)
11. 02:54 PM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Kringle)
12. 05:24 PM - Re: Speaking of Wing Sweep and CG (Pieti Lowell)
13. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: help identifying disk brake caliper |
Lorin,
Send an email with your pix to Matco's Customer Service: http://www.matcomfg.com/contact.html
A couple of years ago I had some Matco wheel assemblies I couldn't identify and
their Customer Service guy was very helpful.
Good Luck,
John F.
GN-1 / Corvair
Richmond, TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: ldmill <lorin.miller@emerson.com>
>Sent: Apr 11, 2011 9:42 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: help identifying disk brake caliper
>
>
>Folks - this may seem like a newbe question - and it probably is - but I need
some assistance from those more experienced.
>
>First some background: I purchased a GN-1 (vintage 1986 build) last year that
came with 15-6.00x6 tires/wheels. Right brake was always a little spongy - I bled
it several times and it helped temporarily. At the end of the season I noticed
brake fluid starting to show up on the side of my tire. Pulled it off and
found the fluid was leaking between brake cylinder and the piston - meaning the
o-ring seal. When I looked closer - I also noticed that the casting has a small
split where the brake bleeder was overtightened at some point. Basically,
I need to replace the assembly.
>
>Problem - this looks like a Matco assembly - but there is no identification that
I can find on the assembly. The piston is 1.5" dia. Axle it was mounted on
is 1.25" dia. The brake rotor on the wheels isn't the tophat kind like what it
appears that Cleveland uses - but a ring style with three cap screws to attach
to the wheel.
>
>Anybody have a clue what this is? I 'd like to replace somewhat in kind so the
master cylinder pressure matches and I don't have different braking loads on
each side of the plane.
>
>Attached are pics for reference. Help?
>
>FYI- intending to fly to Brodhead this year - then to Oshkosh with the group.
>
>--------
>Lorin Miller
>Waiex N81YX
>GN-1 N30PP
>
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| Subject: | help identifying disk brake caliper |
that 15-6/00x6 is the low profile wheel/tire used on Cessna RG aircraft. C
essna bought McCauley years ago and call the wheel assemblies something els
e now. It is most likely a Cessna part. Go to your closest FBO maintananc
e shop and show it to them=2C if they work on Cessna RGs they willprobably
recognize it and can steer you inthe right way.
Gene
do not archive
> Date: Tue=2C 12 Apr 2011 07:03:21 -0500
> From: jbfjr@peoplepc.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: help identifying disk brake caliper
>
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> Lorin=2C
>
> Send an email with your pix to Matco's Customer Service: http://www.matco
mfg.com/contact.html
> A couple of years ago I had some Matco wheel assemblies I couldn't identi
fy and their Customer Service guy was very helpful.
>
> Good Luck=2C
> John F.
> GN-1 / Corvair
> Richmond=2C TX
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: ldmill <lorin.miller@emerson.com>
> >Sent: Apr 11=2C 2011 9:42 PM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: help identifying disk brake caliper
> >
>
> >
> >Folks - this may seem like a newbe question - and it probably is - but I
need some assistance from those more experienced.
> >
> >First some background: I purchased a GN-1 (vintage 1986 build) last year
that came with 15-6.00x6 tires/wheels. Right brake was always a little spo
ngy - I bled it several times and it helped temporarily. At the end of the
season I noticed brake fluid starting to show up on the side of my tire. Pu
lled it off and found the fluid was leaking between brake cylinder and the
piston - meaning the o-ring seal. When I looked closer - I also noticed tha
t the casting has a small split where the brake bleeder was overtightened a
t some point. Basically=2C I need to replace the assembly.
> >
> >Problem - this looks like a Matco assembly - but there is no identificat
ion that I can find on the assembly. The piston is 1.5" dia. Axle it was mo
unted on is 1.25" dia. The brake rotor on the wheels isn't the tophat kind
like what it appears that Cleveland uses - but a ring style with three cap
screws to attach to the wheel.
> >
> >Anybody have a clue what this is? I 'd like to replace somewhat in kind
so the master cylinder pressure matches and I don't have different braking
loads on each side of the plane.
> >
> >Attached are pics for reference. Help?
> >
> >FYI- intending to fly to Brodhead this year - then to Oshkosh with the g
roup.
> >
> >--------
> >Lorin Miller
> >Waiex N81YX
> >GN-1 N30PP
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of Wing Sweep and CG |
yocum137 wrote:
> Michael, et al.,
>
>
> Just be sure to use the same length units throughout - put everything in
> inches . . . . . . .or furlongs.
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
Lets see I make the 60" cord of a Piet wing to be right at .0075757575757575757575757575756
furlongs
interesting [Cool]
Regards,
Stan
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Last night I began making my cabane fittings for the center section. After reading
how to bend the u-shaped material and the minimum radius needed, I proceeded
to make a fitting. With this u-shaped piece fitting over the spar, I have
a good gap in the wood to metal area because of the radiused metal and sharped
edged wood. Do most of you sand the wood in that area to fit the radius of
the metal?
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John
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| Subject: | NA-S3 B Stromber Carburetor |
My next question is where do you measure the float dem. 13/32 ?
I understand you start at the parting line of the float bowel but down to what?
Also do you include the thickness of the gasket?
I want to thank all who responded to my first questions.
Thank you all again.
Dave H
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Dave Harmon
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| Subject: | Re: NA-S3 B Stromber Carburetor |
OK I think I got it! down to the fuel level. This level is determined by the pressure
of the fuel just like it is in the aeroplane. Head pressure inches WC or
psi etc..... so I simulate it with gas line & funnel.
Dave H
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Dave Harmon
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of Wing Sweep and CG |
My cabanas are 1-3/8" longer then shown on the plans. (I managed to screw up cutting/
drilling them that this is the length they ended up at.)
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
--- On Mon, 4/11/11, Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Speaking of Wing Sweep and CG
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 8:59 PM
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> by: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
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> Mike,
> What lengths are your Cabanes ?
> Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
John, I would recomend not sanding the spar to shape (I could be wrong).-
My reason for saying that is because the spar "caps" top and bottom edges
are the most critical, load bearing areas.- Someone else chime in here if
I am completly wrong, but that is why you can get away with routing out th
e solid spars in the center, to make the routed I beam.- One possible sol
ution, is to add a rounded 1/8, or so plywood block to the top of the spar
to snug up the fit, this would also keep the fitting from cutting into the
spar cap.- Just make sure to leave the fitting long enough on the bottom
side to make up for the plywood block thickness.
-
Just an idea,
Shad
--- On Tue, 4/12/11, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
From: Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane Fittings
Last night I began making my cabane fittings for the center section.- Aft
er reading how to bend the u-shaped material and the minimum radius needed,
I proceeded to make a fitting.- With this u-shaped piece fitting over th
e spar, I have a good gap in the wood to metal area because of the radiused
metal and sharped edged wood.- Do most of you sand the wood in that area
to fit the radius of the metal?
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
John,
I have attached a snapshot taken from one of Tony Bingelis' book showing how to
deal with radius' corners in metal. I also added a drawing showing how you might
adapt the idea to your situation. You could cut a metal piece, radius the
corners, and put it in as a spacer. Does that make sense? Maybe some of the way-more
experienced builders can comment (I am just starting, so I really know
next to nothing), but I saw it in Tony's book and thought it might help.
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
jarheadpilot82 wrote:
> John,
>
> I have attached a snapshot taken from one of Tony Bingelis' book showing how
to deal with radius' corners in metal. I also added a drawing showing how you
might adapt the idea to your situation. You could cut a metal piece, radius the
corners, and put it in as a spacer. Does that make sense? Maybe some of the
way-more experienced builders can comment (I am just starting, so I really know
next to nothing), but I saw it in Tony's book and thought it might help. I think
that Shad and I are saying the same thing - I am suggesting metal and I think
he is suggesting a wood spacer.
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Perhaps I will use this method as posted by Jack Textor. With the bending radius
of the lower piece I may have a hard time holding the 3/4 dimension as per
the print for the cabane attachment.
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of Wing Sweep and CG |
The Cabanes with the 612 should be very close to the same length because the angle
of incident is much different than the Piets, I will be trying different
angles to find the best flying configuration. The same length as the Pietenpol's
Cabanes,gives the trim of much forward stick pressure to hold straight and
level at 70 MPH.
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
You guys do remember there's another piece of
U shaped metal that goes in there? Right?
Clif :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cabane Fittings
> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
>
> John,
>
> I have attached a snapshot taken from one of Tony Bingelis' book showing
> how to deal with radius' corners in metal. I also added a drawing showing
> how you might adapt the idea to your situation. You could cut a metal
> piece, radius the corners, and put it in as a spacer. Does that make
> sense? Maybe some of the way-more experienced builders can comment (I am
> just starting, so I really know next to nothing), but I saw it in Tony's
> book and thought it might help.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry
>
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