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1. 03:25 AM - Re: Re: Angle of Incidence (Gboothe5)
2. 05:47 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Kringle)
3. 06:04 AM - Continental motor mount (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 06:09 AM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Ken Bickers)
5. 06:21 AM - Has this been tried on a Piet? (Tom Bernie)
6. 06:29 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Kringle)
7. 06:30 AM - Re: Angle of Incidence (Bill Church)
8. 07:07 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Bill Church)
9. 07:19 AM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Ken Bickers)
10. 07:40 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Kringle)
11. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: Angle of Incidence (Charles Waldo)
12. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Jim Boyer)
13. 10:45 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Catdesigns)
14. 12:59 PM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Charles Campbell)
15. 01:17 PM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Kringle)
16. 01:34 PM - Re: Has this been tried on a Piet? (Charles Campbell)
17. 01:47 PM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Bill Church)
18. 02:05 PM - Re: Has this been tried on a Piet? (Bill Church)
19. 02:34 PM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Rick Holland)
20. 02:36 PM - Re: Cabane Fittings (aerocarjake)
21. 03:10 PM - Re: Has this been tried on a Piet? (skellytown flyer)
22. 04:52 PM - Re: Continental motor mount (Ray Krause)
23. 04:53 PM - Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet Doco? (bubbleboy)
24. 05:05 PM - Re: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet Doco? (Gboothe5)
25. 05:18 PM - Re: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet Doco? (bubbleboy)
26. 05:38 PM - Re: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet Doco? (Chris)
27. 05:52 PM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Greg Cardinal)
28. 06:03 PM - Re: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet Doco? (bubbleboy)
29. 06:22 PM - stromberg Carb - Seat and Needle (Piet2112)
30. 07:53 PM - tips for welding fuel tank filler neck flange (Douwe Blumberg)
31. 10:17 PM - Re: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet Doco?2 (jorge lizarraga)
32. 10:19 PM - Re: tips for welding fuel tank filler neck flange (Billy McCaskill)
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| Subject: | Re: Angle of Incidence |
...(holding my hands over my ears), "La, la, la..."
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Angle of Incidence
Gary, did you read that?
Michael built 612 ribs!
Wow.
BC
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Let me first make it clear that all of your comments are very appreciated and I
probably would not be building this aircraft if I did not have the expertise
and support of this group. I blame myself for not being clear on the original
question and will ask it again as the conversation has drifted to wood grain,
motor mounts and wallpaper. Please review the attached pic and tell me if is
okay to modify the cabane fittings as I have seen others do. The left drawing
is the way called for in the plans and the right fitting is how I have seen
others do it.
Thanks so much
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| Subject: | Continental motor mount |
Ray asked:
>With the A-65, did you use the Pietenpol plans for the motor mount?
Yes and no. The motor mount is essentially to the Piet plans for the
Continental, but it was extended a bit and didn't have the plans
dimensions to provide thrust offset. We've added shims to do that.
The main difference is the extension to put the engine a bit further
out from the firewall. I don't recall exactly how far it was extended
but can look that up in my notes if you're interested.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
San Antonio, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
John,
I made mine like the ones you've proposed, not as they are shown in
the plans. I wasn't comfortable with the welded tabs, as called out
in the plans. That puts the welds in tension. By bending two U's to
intersect, the welds really aren't carrying much, if any, loads. I
placed the weld on the undersides, where the cabanes attach to the
drop down fitting. The welds are there mostly to keep the two
U-shaped pieces together.
The one difference on mine is that the U fitting that attaches to the
spar wasn't crimped in. My spars are 1" in width. I suspect from the
drawings your's must be 3/4". I don't see a problem with how you've
got your's bent -- just a bit more work.
My best, Ken
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Let me first make it clear that all of your comments are very appreciated and
I probably would not be building this aircraft if I did not have the expertise
and support of this group. I blame myself for not being clear on the original
question and will ask it again as the conversation has drifted to wood grain,
motor mounts and wallpaper. Please review the attached pic and tell me if is
okay to modify the cabane fittings as I have seen others do. The left drawing
is the way called for in the plans and the right fitting is how I have seen others
do it.
>
> Thanks so much
>
> --------
> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Has this been tried on a Piet? |
Saw it at the National Aerospace Museum
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Thanks Ken, I'm thinking the same way you are. My spars are 3/4". I will get
some more strips sheared this morning as I have the grain running the wrong way
on the top pieces....dang!
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| Subject: | Re: Angle of Incidence |
Chuck,
Well, the simple answer would be that they would need to be extended by whatever
gap you end up with below the spar. But that isn't actually true, because for
the cabane mounting brackets to work, the spars MUST sit on top of the bottom
capstrip of the rib (in the centersection, at least). Therefore, if you raise
the front spar, you will need to do one of two things in your centersection
- either use a full height spar, or add extensions on the bottom of the spar at
the mounting bracket locations. (this is assuming you are building a three-piece
wing).
You will also need to do something similar (localized extension on the bottom of
the spar) at the lift strut attachment points, since there will be the same
issues out there.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
John,
I just looked back through the thread, and the only question you asked was whether
most builders sand the spar to suit the radius of the metal. I don't think
you ever asked the question you are now asking, and THAT'S probably why nobody
answered it. :)
Anyway, to answer your question; yes, the method you have shown will work just
fine. Remember to allow for the extra metal thickness added by overlapping the
two pieces.
Ken,
I don't follow your comments about the U fitting that attaches to the spar being
"crimped in". The photo looks like a simple 90 degree bend. I don't see any
crimping.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Bill, it may be the way the picture looks on my monitor. But to me it
looks like the top, upward pointing U that attaches to the spar is
closed back in a little before the vertical pieces start their
verticality. I wasn't intending any editorial comment, other than
that would require abit more work. Assuming what I think I'm seeing
is what I'm seeing (try to say that three times), it might be easier,
if starting from scratch, to use plywood shims on the spar, so that
the U that attaches to the spars are essentially three straight
pieces: the two sides and the bottom. Ken
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> John,
> I just looked back through the thread, and the only question you asked was whether
most builders sand the spar to suit the radius of the metal. I don't think
you ever asked the question you are now asking, and THAT'S probably why nobody
answered it. :)
> Anyway, to answer your question; yes, the method you have shown will work just
fine. Remember to allow for the extra metal thickness added by overlapping the
two pieces.
>
> Ken,
> I don't follow your comments about the U fitting that attaches to the spar being
"crimped in". The photo looks like a simple 90 degree bend. I don't see any
crimping.
>
> Bill C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
All are simple 90 degree bends. Thanks guys, i just got back from the weld shop
with my new strips sheared to size. That should give me enough work to do this
weekend.
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| Subject: | Re: Angle of Incidence |
Bill
Agreed! I was leaning towards plan B....
Chuck
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Chuck,
>
> Well, the simple answer would be that they would need to be extended by
> whatever gap you end up with below the spar. But that isn't actually true,
> because for the cabane mounting brackets to work, the spars MUST sit on top
> of the bottom capstrip of the rib (in the centersection, at least).
> Therefore, if you raise the front spar, you will need to do one of two
> things in your centersection - either use a full height spar, or add
> extensions on the bottom of the spar at the mounting bracket locations.
> (this is assuming you are building a three-piece wing).
> You will also need to do something similar (localized extension on the
> bottom of the spar) at the lift strut attachment points, since there will be
> the same issues out there.
>
> Bill C.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336998#336998
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Hi John,
I did my cabane strut fittings just as you show; two interlocking "U's". I think
they are stronger and you are not putting the weld in tension.
Mine have not flown yet disclaimer.
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
John
Using two U-shaped pieces was specifically mentioned by Mr. Pietenpol in the original
Air Camper article in the Flying and Glider magazine. I have always wondered
why it changes to a three piece design on the Improved Air Camper plans.
My fittings are the same as your proposing.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
John, the guy who did my fittings did them according to the plans, but he
said that if he had it to do again he would make the fitting out of one
piece of metal and make 4 bends in it. Seems that that would be wasteful,
but it's an idea if you want it. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cabane Fittings
>
> Let me first make it clear that all of your comments are very appreciated
> and I probably would not be building this aircraft if I did not have the
> expertise and support of this group. I blame myself for not being clear
> on the original question and will ask it again as the conversation has
> drifted to wood grain, motor mounts and wallpaper. Please review the
> attached pic and tell me if is okay to modify the cabane fittings as I
> have seen others do. The left drawing is the way called for in the plans
> and the right fitting is how I have seen others do it.
>
> Thanks so much
>
> --------
> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336992#336992
>
>
> Attachments:
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Chuck,
I'm no engineer but I think that would work and be just as strong as the plan fittings.
Now I have to quit talking about it and get to work.
Thanks,
John
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| Subject: | Re: Has this been tried on a Piet? |
Looks like it might work, but I don't like the looks of it. C Do not
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Bernie" <tsbernie@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Has this been tried on a Piet?
> <tsbernie@earthlink.net>
>
> Saw it at the National Aerospace Museum
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Chris,
You are right about the FGM. The article mentions these brackets, and the plans
from the FGM also show it that way.
Another thing that makes me scratch my head is the fact that these brackets are
drawn and detailed twice in the plans (on drawing #4 and again on drawing #5).
My guess is that when the tab was added to tie in the diagonal cable bracing, the
"blank" that would need to be cut out for the lower U channel would become
a lot more difficult to fabricate. By making the lower ears as separate pieces,
and welding them to the upper U channel, the parts are a lot simpler to cut
out.
However, when the diagonal cable bracing is replaced by the diagonal tube bracing,
the need for the tab is eliminated, making the bottom U channel easy to cut
once again.
>From a strength and safety point of view, the two U channels is superior to the
welded tabs.
I'll be making mine from two U channels.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Has this been tried on a Piet? |
Has WHAT been tried on a Piet?
enclosed passenger cabin?
crazy wooden tailskid?
flying a hang glider overhead?
or is it the airfoil shaped struts?
I believe this model (CF) was Bellanca's first of his many designs to use the "flying
struts".
Look at the undercamber on that wing!
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
John
Build mine as shown on the right, two "U" shaped pieces hooked together and
welded. Several others with flying Piets have done the same. Seems a lot
stronger and not much harder to make.
rick
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Let me first make it clear that all of your comments are very appreciated
> and I probably would not be building this aircraft if I did not have the
> expertise and support of this group. I blame myself for not being clear on
> the original question and will ask it again as the conversation has drifted
> to wood grain, motor mounts and wallpaper. Please review the attached pic
> and tell me if is okay to modify the cabane fittings as I have seen others
> do. The left drawing is the way called for in the plans and the right
> fitting is how I have seen others do it.
>
> Thanks so much
>
> --------
> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336992#336992
>
>
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>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Nice to see all this good ifitting inormation....
Sorry John to divert down a bunny trail there in the middle of the thread - I could
not figure how to re-post the photo to a new thread from my Droid.
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| Subject: | Re: Has this been tried on a Piet? |
I wondered that too but kinda figured you were taking about the struts.- makes
me wonder how strong they are to resist bending if they actually contribute much
lift without any jury struts. do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Continental motor mount |
Oscar,
Thanks for the thoughts. With the Sky Scout, there is only the Ford motor
mount plans. The Continental mount plans came with the Air Camper plans.
The Sky Scout is shorter, don't remember how much, and the wing is the same
as the Air Camper. I may just have to wait till I am closer to that point
to think about the mount length. It seems that the mount plans I have will
line up nicely with the fittings on the firewall of the Sky Scout.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 6:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Continental motor mount
>
>
> Ray asked:
>
>>With the A-65, did you use the Pietenpol plans for the motor mount?
>
> Yes and no. The motor mount is essentially to the Piet plans for the
> Continental, but it was extended a bit and didn't have the plans
> dimensions to provide thrust offset. We've added shims to do that.
> The main difference is the extension to put the engine a bit further
> out from the firewall. I don't recall exactly how far it was extended
> but can look that up in my notes if you're interested.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> San Antonio, TX
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet Doco? |
Hi all...I have asked Mike Cuy if he would mind if I put out a request to see if
anyone has a video tape, not DVD, version of his Pietenpol build. Im in Australia
and the DVD that Mike now has wont work on our DVD players here. I have
a dual Tape and DVD player which plays the US format tapes so if I could borrow
a tape copy I could burn a DVD in PAL format for me and send a copy to Mike
for future use. I WILL NOT sell any copies this is purely for my use only and
of course will return the tape to the owner once done.
Regards Scotty
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Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 8 Ribs built...
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| Subject: | Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet |
Doco?
Did you try playing it backwards? ;-)
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet
Doco?
<scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Hi all...I have asked Mike Cuy if he would mind if I put out a request to
see if anyone has a video tape, not DVD, version of his Pietenpol build. Im
in Australia and the DVD that Mike now has wont work on our DVD players
here. I have a dual Tape and DVD player which plays the US format tapes so
if I could borrow a tape copy I could burn a DVD in PAL format for me and
send a copy to Mike for future use. I WILL NOT sell any copies this is
purely for my use only and of course will return the tape to the owner once
done.
Regards Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 8 Ribs built...
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet |
Doco?
Lol Gary!...backwards upside down even reversed the DVD player plug in the wall!
You Yanks sure have funny systems!
Scotty [Laughing]
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 8 Ribs built...
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| Subject: | Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet |
Doco?
Scotty
I have a copy you can borrow. I also know how to fill out the customs forms
at the post office to get it to you.
I have however watched the tape a bunch of times so it is used.
Let me know off list what you want to do.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet
Doco?
--> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Hi all...I have asked Mike Cuy if he would mind if I put out a request to
see if anyone has a video tape, not DVD, version of his Pietenpol build. Im
in Australia and the DVD that Mike now has wont work on our DVD players
here. I have a dual Tape and DVD player which plays the US format tapes so
if I could borrow a tape copy I could burn a DVD in PAL format for me and
send a copy to Mike for future use. I WILL NOT sell any copies this is
purely for my use only and of course will return the tape to the owner once
done.
Regards Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 8 Ribs built...
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
The interlocking U-shape is how it was done on NX18235 and is good for peace
of mind if you are an inexperienced welder.
I would suggest using a Scotchbrite deburring wheel to soften the sharp
edges of the fittings where they come in contact.
It is also good practice to polish the edges of the steel prior to bending.
This will make the fittings less prone to cracking.
Greg Cardinal
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From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cabane Fittings
>
> Let me first make it clear that all of your comments are very appreciated
> and I probably would not be building this aircraft if I did not have the
> expertise and support of this group. I blame myself for not being clear
> on the original question and will ask it again as the conversation has
> drifted to wood grain, motor mounts and wallpaper. Please review the
> attached pic and tell me if is okay to modify the cabane fittings as I
> have seen others do. The left drawing is the way called for in the plans
> and the right fitting is how I have seen others do it.
>
> Thanks so much
>
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> John
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet |
Doco?
PM sent Chris!
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 8 Ribs built...
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| Subject: | stromberg Carb - Seat and Needle |
During my rebuild of my Stromberg carb, I learned a lot about them from
this forum and elsewhere on the Internet. I wanted to share a few things I
learned about mine in particular.
It appears to have originally been a NA-S3A1 that was modified to a NA-
S3B by using a file and a stamp on the housing. It has the correct
venturi size for my C85, and the jet was drilled out to the correct size.
and noted on the jet. The B is not supposed to have a mixture control,
mine does.
It also had a neoprene needle but the seat doesn't have a part number so
I wasn't 100% it was the rounded seat. I went ahead and ordered a
stainless steel seat to compare. The seats are very similar and with the
naked eye is difficult to tell the difference. Externally, the length of
threaded area is longer on the rounded seat and internally, it doesn't
appear to be rounded, but an extra chamfered area for the needle to
rest on.
I attached a bunch of photos and I hope they will help anyone who may
be working on one.
I got the stainless steel needle and seat and fuel strainer from Fresno
Airparts. I got the gasket set and new jet from AS&S.
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound
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| Subject: | tips for welding fuel tank filler neck flange |
I'm doing my third fuel tank (don't ask.) and have always struggled with
welding on the filler neck ring without causing lots of distortion on the
top of the tank.
The first time, I built the tank and then cut the hole and welded on the
neck flange and it warped the snot out of the top and just didn't look good.
The second time I welded the flange on to the top while it was flat, prior
to welding it onto the rest of the tank. That worked MUCH better, but was
still not as clean and smooth as I see on others tanks.
So. any suggestions for how to do it and avoid warpage from the heat? I tig
weld by the way.
My plan is to rivet the flange on, weld the bead around the edge and then
weld over the rivet holes hoping that'll keep things smoother.
Thanks, as always.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Piet |
Doco?2
hi im jorge from hanford and I have those original vhs video from my cuy or
iginal tape but for the time is literbit distorcion but exelent video if yo
u like we cand figured how to send you make a COPY AND SEDMY BACK MY OR SOM
TING LIKE YOU LIVE AROUN HANFORD CA WE CAND MET OR SO TANKS FOR LISENIG JOR
GE FROM HANFORD
--- On Fri, 4/15/11, bubbleboy <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> wrote:
From: bubbleboy <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Anyone have a video tape version of Mike Cuy's Pie
t Doco?
m>
Hi all...I have asked Mike Cuy if he would mind if I put out a request to s
ee if anyone has a video tape, not DVD, version of his Pietenpol build. Im
in Australia and the DVD that Mike now has wont work on our DVD players her
e. I have a dual Tape and DVD player which plays the US format tapes so if
I could borrow a tape copy I could burn a DVD in PAL format for me and send
a copy to Mike for future use. I WILL NOT sell any copies this is purely f
or my use only and of course will return the tape to the owner once done.
Regards Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 8 Ribs built...
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: tips for welding fuel tank filler neck flange |
I'm no welder, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once... ;)
I presume that you are not trying to weld around the entire perimeter in one continuous
pass and that you are welding small segments not directly adjacent to
each other?
Would it be possible to fill the tank with water while you're welding it to help
absorb the heat and minimize the distortion? Or perhaps just drape some damp
rags around the filler neck while you're welding it? I'm not sure what other
steps could be used to help with this, but as I said I'm no welder. I'm sure
that others will have more advice than I can offer, but hope this is of some
help to you.
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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