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Sat 04/16/11


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 03:02 AM - Re: tips for welding fuel tank filler neck flange (Jack)
     2. 05:43 AM - Holmes County, OH Piets? (Kringle)
     3. 08:02 AM - Cont-A75 for sale on Barnstormers (ldmill)
     4. 12:38 PM - For Sale - N8031 (Dan Yocum)
     5. 04:08 PM - Re: For Sale - N8031 (helspersew@aol.com)
     6. 05:13 PM - Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (shad bell)
     7. 05:28 PM - Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (Kringle)
     8. 05:44 PM - Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (Jim Markle)
     9. 06:18 PM - Elite Pietenpol purists only! (Lawrence Williams)
    10. 07:03 PM - Re: For Sale - N8031 (Don Emch)
    11. 07:07 PM - Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
    12. 07:23 PM - Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (Kringle)
    13. 07:37 PM - Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (Don Emch)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:02:34 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: tips for welding fuel tank filler neck flange
    Douwe, Have you considered Proseal (can't remember the new name) and rivets? It has worked well for me. I wouldn't be comfortable with ANY moisture around my tig machine. Jack DSM _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:59 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: tips for welding fuel tank filler neck flange I'm doing my third fuel tank (don't ask.) and have always struggled with welding on the filler neck ring without causing lots of distortion on the top of the tank. The first time, I built the tank and then cut the hole and welded on the neck flange and it warped the snot out of the top and just didn't look good. The second time I welded the flange on to the top while it was flat, prior to welding it onto the rest of the tank. That worked MUCH better, but was still not as clean and smooth as I see on others tanks. So. any suggestions for how to do it and avoid warpage from the heat? I tig weld by the way. My plan is to rivet the flange on, weld the bead around the edge and then weld over the rivet holes hoping that'll keep things smoother. Thanks, as always. Douwe


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    Time: 05:43:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Holmes County, OH Piets?
    From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    I'm headed to Holmes county next weekend (Easter) and was wondering if any Pietenpols were in the area I could look at? John -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337115#337115


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    Time: 08:02:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Cont-A75 for sale on Barnstormers
    From: "ldmill" <lorin.miller@emerson.com>
    Hey all - just saw a Cont-A75-9 (w/ starter gears) for sale on Barnstormers for $2900. Good for a Piet project - I love mine :D Lorin -------- Lorin Miller Waiex N81YX GN-1 N30PP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337128#337128


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    Time: 12:38:53 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: For Sale - N8031
    Dear all, Well, I've been presented an opportunity to purchase a Hatz biplane, but my dear lovely wife says that I can't have 2 airplanes. She says I have to sell the Piet. I protested, of course, but to no avail. So, with heavy heart and deep trepidation, I have determined that the time has come to pass the stewardship of N8031 to another pilot. I've had a lot of fun with her and I'm sure the next owner will, too. We've hopped many rides together at Brodhead and local pancake breakfasts and poked into some interesting grass strips around Northern Illinois and Southern Wisconsin. I flew her about 60 hours in the 20 months I've owned her. She's treated me very well. Here are her specifics: Short fuselage Pietenpol Air Camper built in 1979 Stits poly cover with dope, repainted in 1999 Cub-style split axle gear with Cub 8.00x4 tires 723lbs empty, 1200lb gross 16.5g fuel (13g tank in center section + 3.5 header tank) ~400 TTAF&E Continental A-65-8F ~400 SMOH Marvel Schebler MA-3 carb with accelerator pump and mixture control 74-42 McCauley Met-L-Prop New stainless steel exhaust installed 2010 With 0 gallons of fuel she is still within the W&B limits with a 196lb pilot. With full fuel, she can handle a 226lb pilot. I'm 170lb and have given rides to 210lb passengers with no problem. The prior owner had several adventures with N8031 including flying her from San Luis Obispo, CA to Dayton, OH where he entered it in the Airventure Cup race to OSH. That story and the pictures are at the following URLs: N8031's Trip Across America: http://malherbe.us/osh2009.htm "EAA Airventure Today" article about entering N8031 in the the Airventure Race: http://airventure.org/news/2009/090728_cup_racer.html Here's a video I posted on youtube flying N8031 - that's me with the big smile in the pilot's seat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj6ycRzzO20 I'm asking $14,500 for her. If you are interested please feel free to drop me an email off list at my personal email address, yocum137@gmail.com. Thanks! Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 04:08:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: For Sale - N8031
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Hi Dan, Sad news. But somebody else will get a chance to acquire a real dependable workhorse. I especially like that hangar in the background of the first pho to :O) Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2011 2:40 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: For Sale - N8031 Dear all, Well, I've been presented an opportunity to purchase a Hatz biplane, but y dear lovely wife says that I can't have 2 airplanes. She says I have o sell the Piet. I protested, of course, but to no avail. So, with heavy heart and deep trepidation, I have determined that the ime has come to pass the stewardship of N8031 to another pilot. I've ad a lot of fun with her and I'm sure the next owner will, too. We've opped many rides together at Brodhead and local pancake breakfasts and oked into some interesting grass strips around Northern Illinois and outhern Wisconsin. I flew her about 60 hours in the 20 months I've wned her. She's treated me very well. Here are her specifics: Short fuselage Pietenpol Air Camper built in 1979 tits poly cover with dope, repainted in 1999 ub-style split axle gear with Cub 8.00x4 tires 23lbs empty, 1200lb gross 6.5g fuel (13g tank in center section + 3.5 header tank) 400 TTAF&E ontinental A-65-8F ~400 SMOH arvel Schebler MA-3 carb with accelerator pump and mixture control 4-42 McCauley Met-L-Prop ew stainless steel exhaust installed 2010 With 0 gallons of fuel she is still within the W&B limits with a 196lb ilot. With full fuel, she can handle a 226lb pilot. I'm 170lb and ave given rides to 210lb passengers with no problem. The prior owner had several adventures with N8031 including flying her rom San Luis Obispo, CA to Dayton, OH where he entered it in the irventure Cup race to OSH. That story and the pictures are at the ollowing URLs: N8031's Trip Across America: http://malherbe.us/osh2009.htm "EAA Airventure Today" article about entering N8031 in the the irventure Race: http://airventure.org/news/2009/090728_cup_racer.html Here's a video I posted on youtube flying N8031 - that's me with the big mile in the pilot's seat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj6ycRzzO20 I'm asking $14,500 for her. If you are interested please feel free to drop me an email off list at y personal email address, yocum137@gmail.com. Thanks! an -- an Yocum ermilab 630.840.6509 ocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 05:13:40 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Holmes County, OH Piets?
    I am about an hour south west of holmes county, in Centerburg, Ohio.- I w ill be at work untill untill 5 pm sunday, but let me know if you're still i n the area on monday You can stop by if you like. - Shad --- On Sat, 4/16/11, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote: From: Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Holmes County, OH Piets? I'm headed to Holmes county next weekend (Easter) and was wondering if any Pietenpols were in the area I could look at? John -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337115#337115 le, List Admin.


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    Time: 05:28:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Holmes County, OH Piets?
    From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    Thanks Shad but I won't be in town then. Maybe some other time. I'd love to see your Piet! -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337167#337167


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    Time: 05:44:49 PM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Holmes County, OH Piets?
    Oh that reminds me...I'll be in Kotzebue, AK (30 miles north of the arctic circle) in a few weeks. Any Piets in the area??? :-) I am hoping for a tour of the area in a small plane but it's probably too much to ask that it be a Piet... Jim in Pryor... -----Original Message----- From: shad bell Sent: Apr 16, 2011 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Holmes County, OH Piets? I am about an hour south west of holmes county, in Centerburg, Ohio. I will be at work untill untill 5 pm sunday, but let me know if you're still in the area on monday You can stop by if you like. Shad --- On Sat, 4/16/11, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote: From: Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Holmes County, OH Piets? I'm headed to Holmes county next weekend (Easter) and was wondering if any Pietenpols were in the area I could look at? John -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337115#337115 http://www.matronics.cop; -Matt Draronics.com/contribution" ======


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    Time: 06:18:54 PM PST US
    From: Lawrence Williams <lnawms@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Elite Pietenpol purists only!
    What do you other model "A" guys use for a cruise RPM? I could have sworn that Mr. Pietenpol used 1850 but I can't remember where I got that number. (Not that I'm getting forgetful but in my line of work some things get a little fuzzy if I don't use them often.) Also, I'm polling the faithful for prop sizes. I'm running a 74x48 but again, I seem to remember that Mr. Pietenpol had a range that he recommended that had a lot less pitch.....I think, maybe, possibly.....or maybe not. Chet Peek's book has some references but I can't find my copy right now and I'm not too sure where he got his info. I believe it differed from what I had heard. Thanks for your help! Larry


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    Time: 07:03:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: For Sale - N8031
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    You'll still come to Brodhead, right?! Now that you've made your mark there you'll always be considered part of the Pietenpol Fraternity. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337174#337174


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    Time: 07:07:10 PM PST US
    From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Holmes County, OH Piets?
    John, Where are you headed to Holmes Co from? We are SE of there where I 77 crosses the Ohio river. We have 2 Piets , a Grega and 3 Piet projects on the field. Skip > > > I'm headed to Holmes county next weekend (Easter) and was wondering if > any Pietenpols were in the area I could look at? > > John


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    Time: 07:23:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Holmes County, OH Piets?
    From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    Wow, I wish I was closer but am coming from the Dayton area. Thanks -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337177#337177


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    Time: 07:37:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Holmes County, OH Piets?
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    John, I'm about an hour and 15 minutes east of there. If you were going to be around on Saturday, you'd be welcome to stop by. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337180#337180




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