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1. 04:05 AM - Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (Kringle)
2. 04:26 AM - Elevator spruce strips (Scott Knowlton)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Elevator spruce strips (echobravo4)
4. 05:41 AM - Re: Trip down to SnF (airlion)
5. 06:26 AM - Re: Damage To N971BP (shad bell)
6. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (shad bell)
7. 07:03 AM - Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (Kringle)
8. 07:06 AM - Sanford and Son...and Airplanes? (Michael Perez)
9. 07:13 AM - springfield Illinois (bender)
10. 07:16 AM - Re: springfield Illinois (echobravo4)
11. 07:38 AM - Re: springfield Illinois (Perry Rhoads)
12. 07:41 AM - Re: springfield Illinois (Jim Markle)
13. 07:43 AM - Fuselage Construction (lowell23@msn.com)
14. 08:01 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (Gary Boothe)
15. 08:42 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (TOM STINEMETZE)
16. 09:08 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (Jack Phillips)
17. 09:13 AM - Sanford and Son...and Airplanes? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
18. 11:25 AM - Re: Re: Elevator spruce strips (Scott Knowlton)
19. 11:50 AM - Re: Sanford and Son...and Airplanes? (bender)
20. 01:19 PM - Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? (Don Emch)
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| Subject: | Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? |
Don, i don't think my wife will give up that much of her shopping time to make
the trip over. I looked at your plane on west coast piet and liked a lot of things
you have done. Are you going to be at Brodhead this year?
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| Subject: | Elevator spruce strips |
After Chet Peak's book being mentioned I took a few moments last night to read
through it again. As I am in the process of finishing up my elevators I took
considerable interest in the photo of a horizontal stab and elevators hanging
on a wall in his book. What caught my attention was each elevator had one diagonal
3/16 by 1/2 strip and three vertical strips per side. The plans call out
for only two vertical strips per side and that is how I built mine. Have a
bunch of builders added this third strip? Is it for extra rib stitching or strength?
Scott Knowlton
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator spruce strips |
I believe that picture is actually of Chet's Piet, and,
like all of us builders on the list has made his own
changes to his build.
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: Trip down to SnF |
Frank, I really like snf 2011 003A. Could you please send me the bigger file for
printing? thanks,Gardiner.
--- On Sun, 4/17/11, Frank Metcalfe <fmetcalf@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Frank Metcalfe <fmetcalf@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Trip down to SnF
Here's a few pictures of the Pietenpols trip down to Sun-NFun. Best part of the
trip !!
I reduced the size. HQ is way to large.
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| Subject: | Re: Damage To N971BP |
The experiance kinda reminds you of your youth?- Fixing my wing (fell off
work bench) reminded me of fixing my rc models after a good CRUNCH.- Bot
h are heart breaking, but both also eventually get fixed, keep on going.-
You built the whole airplane, a few repairs are like a drop in the bucket.
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Shad
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From: Frank Metcalfe <fmetcalf@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Damage To N971BP
I started to check the damage to my plane. Last weekend I uncovered my left
wing, aileron and rudder. I should have the repairs to the aileron complet
e today and start making some ribs today. I post more as soon as I uncover
some more damages.
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| Subject: | Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? |
John, if you are coming from dayton area to holmes county, you are going up
rt 3?- If so you will drive right by my house/hangar.- Centerburg airp
ort is on rt 3, just north of Sunbury Ohio about 9 miles or so.-
--- On Sat, 4/16/11, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
From: Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Holmes County, OH Piets?
Wow, I wish I was closer but am coming from the Dayton area.
Thanks
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John
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? |
Shad,
I will only be in the area on Friday and Saturday.
Thanks,
John
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John
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| Subject: | Sanford and Son...and Airplanes? |
For those of you who know of the show...during the ending credits, it appea
rs Lamont picks up a rudder or elevator of some sort and puts it in the tru
ck...is it? If so, anyone venture a guess what it is from?
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Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | springfield Illinois |
i'm in springfield all week.. any piets close...??
took a photo looking down on the piet last week.... looks like a model
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: springfield Illinois |
That's only 'cause your hanger is too big!!
Looks great!
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: springfield Illinois |
Jeff,
I keep N12939, 50 miles south on I-55 at Litchfield,IL. (3LF). It's not a
project. Built buy Ed Sampson in 1972, owned by VI Kaplar for 23 years until
I bought it in Oct. 2009.
I can meet you there any night this week.
Perry Rhoads
217-854-2521 days
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From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: springfield Illinois
> <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
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> i'm in springfield all week.. any piets close...??
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> took a photo looking down on the piet last week.... looks like a model
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> jeff
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| Subject: | Re: springfield Illinois |
A BEAUTIFUL model....that's nice.
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>Sent: Apr 18, 2011 9:10 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: springfield Illinois
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>i'm in springfield all week.. any piets close...??
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>took a photo looking down on the piet last week.... looks like a model
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| Subject: | Fuselage Construction |
I've built the workbench where my fuselage jig will be laid out, and plywood, spruce
and T-88 are on their way from Aircraft Spruce. I have one question (for
now...) about how to glue it all together in the jig. Should I put the longerons
in first, then squeeze in the struts and cross braces with the glue on them,
or should I put one longeron in the jig, glue on the struts and cross braces,
then bring the other longeron up to the struts, etc. before putting on the
gussets? I've read Mr. Pietenpol's builders notes, and he seems to indicate
doing it the first way, but I just picture the glue being squeegeed (is that
a word?) out. I certainly appreciate any input.
Thank you,
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
Squeegeed? I think the correct word is, "Squoze." ;-)
Anyhow, use the first method, put the epoxy on both surfaces. In my case, I
was able to flex the longeron just enough to not scrape off all the epoxy,
in most cases. No matter, the real strength is in the gussets.
Carry on with confidence...
Gary Boothe
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From: lowell23@msn.com
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 7:40 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Construction
I've built the workbench where my fuselage jig will be laid out, and
plywood, spruce and T-88 are on their way from Aircraft Spruce. I have one
question (for now...) about how to glue it all together in the jig. Should
I put the longerons in first, then squeeze in the struts and cross braces
with the glue on them, or should I put one longeron in the jig, glue on the
struts and cross braces, then bring the other longeron up to the struts,
etc. before putting on the gussets? I've read Mr. Pietenpol's builders
notes, and he seems to indicate doing it the first way, but I just picture
the glue being squeegeed (is that a word?) out. I certainly appreciate any
input.
Thank you,
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
Lowell:
I found the first way to work very well with the added advantage that the
upper and lower longerons can be very accurately jigged in place and then
the cross braces can be fooled with (sorry to use such technical language)
until the fit is just perfect before adding the glue. Most of these cross
braces can be placed between the longerons and just rotated into place so
you do not get that "squeegee" effect.
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "lowell23@msn.com" <lowell23@msn.com> 4/18/2011 9:40 AM >>>
I've built the workbench where my fuselage jig will be laid out, and
plywood, spruce and T-88 are on their way from Aircraft Spruce. I have
one question (for now...) about how to glue it all together in the jig.
Should I put the longerons in first, then squeeze in the struts and cross
braces with the glue on them, or should I put one longeron in the jig,
glue on the struts and cross braces, then bring the other longeron up to
the struts, etc. before putting on the gussets? I've read Mr. Pietenpol's
builders notes, and he seems to indicate doing it the first way, but I
just picture the glue being squeegeed (is that a word?) out. I certainly
appreciate any input.
Thank you,
Lowell
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| Subject: | Fuselage Construction |
Lowell, Put the longerons in the jig and then you can custom fit the
uprights and diagonals. Don't try cutting them to exact length first - they
will never fit quite right. Gary's right - don't worry about squeezing the
glue out of the butt joints - even with exactly right amounts of glue, a
butt joint is still very weak. The strength comes from the gussets.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
lowell23@msn.com
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:41 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Construction
I've built the workbench where my fuselage jig will be laid out, and
plywood, spruce and T-88 are on their way from Aircraft Spruce. I have one
question (for now...) about how to glue it all together in the jig. Should
I put the longerons in first, then squeeze in the struts and cross braces
with the glue on them, or should I put one longeron in the jig, glue on the
struts and cross braces, then bring the other longeron up to the struts,
etc. before putting on the gussets? I've read Mr. Pietenpol's builders
notes, and he seems to indicate doing it the first way, but I just picture
the glue being squeegeed (is that a word?) out. I certainly appreciate any
input.
Thank you,
Lowell
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| Subject: | Sanford and Son...and Airplanes? |
That's so cool Mike-I love that they are showing re-runs of that show local
ly here where we live and I've never notice that tailfeather part in the
ending credits of the show. I'll take a look-see next time I catch the s
how.
PS-for those on the list too young to remember Sanford and Son (a tv show
from the 70's/ 80's roughly) YouTube them. What a riot. Was a great show
-still is.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator spruce strips |
Thanks! That makes me feel better. I'd be concerned if the extra spruce strip
per elevator was the norm of the group. I'll stick to the plans.
Scott Knowlton
-----Original Message-----
From: echobravo4 <eab4@comcast.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator spruce strips
I believe that picture is actually of Chet's Piet, and,
like all of us builders on the list has made his own
changes to his build.
Do not archive
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
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| Subject: | Re: Sanford and Son...and Airplanes? |
champipple ??
you big dummy... its champagne mixed with ripple
i had a 54 ford truck that i thought was going to kill my wife when i pulled in
the drive... went well with the sanford and son ringtone on my phone
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| Subject: | Re: Holmes County, OH Piets? |
John,
As of right now I am planning to make the Brodhead trip this year.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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