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1. 05:55 AM - One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo (Oscar Zuniga)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (lowell23@msn.com)
3. 07:46 AM - Corvair props (skellytown flyer)
4. 07:52 AM - Re: Corvair props (Ryan Mueller)
5. 08:02 AM - Re: Corvair props (skellytown flyer)
6. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Kip and Beth Gardner)
7. 08:30 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (heavyliftpilot)
8. 08:42 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (heavyliftpilot)
9. 08:43 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (K5YAC)
10. 08:43 AM - Re: Corvair props (hvandervoo@aol.com)
11. 08:47 AM - off-topic- need help (helspersew@aol.com)
12. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage Construction (james theissen)
13. 09:01 AM - Re: off-topic- need help (hvandervoo@aol.com)
14. 09:06 AM - Re: off-topic- need help (Wayne Bressler)
15. 09:42 AM - Re: off-topic- need help (American Safety Consultants)
16. 10:49 AM - Re: Corvair props (shad bell)
17. 11:16 AM - Re: off-topic- need help (helspersew@aol.com)
18. 12:09 PM - Re: off-topic- need help (Jack Phillips)
19. 12:43 PM - Re: Corvair props (skellytown flyer)
20. 01:13 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Construction (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com)
21. 01:53 PM - 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (helspersew@aol.com)
22. 02:11 PM - Red Green misquoted (TOM STINEMETZE)
23. 02:12 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
24. 02:17 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (John Hofmann)
25. 02:26 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Ryan Mueller)
26. 02:35 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (K5YAC)
27. 02:53 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (amsafetyc@aol.com)
28. 03:00 PM - Re: Fuselage Construction (Billy McCaskill)
29. 03:09 PM - Re: Corvair props (Billy McCaskill)
30. 03:30 PM - Re: Corvair props (skellytown flyer)
31. 05:35 PM - model a heads (bender)
32. 05:54 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (helspersew@aol.com)
33. 05:54 PM - Taxes on material (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com)
34. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Construction (james theissen)
35. 05:54 PM - Re: model a heads (Doug Dever)
36. 05:56 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Construction (james theissen)
37. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com)
38. 05:57 PM - Re: One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo (Jack)
39. 06:01 PM - correction (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
40. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Rick Holland)
41. 06:01 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Charles Campbell)
42. 06:13 PM - Re: Corvair props (Gboothe5)
43. 06:16 PM - Re: Taxes on material (Doug Dever)
44. 06:17 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Gboothe5)
45. 06:20 PM - information from Chet Peek (Stan Peek)
46. 06:28 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Gboothe5)
47. 06:32 PM - Re: Corvair props (skellytown flyer)
48. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Ryan Mueller)
49. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Ryan Mueller)
50. 07:03 PM - Re: model a heads (Brett Phillips)
51. 08:37 PM - Re: Corvair props (jarheadpilot82)
52. 09:30 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Chris)
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| Subject: | One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo |
I just noticed in the latest BPA Newsletter that Bill Rewey's Piet,
NX17WR, is for sale. Anybody know the story behind this? Is he
hanging up his goggles or building another Piet?
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
San Antonio, TX
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
Thank you very much, everybody! That all makes perfect sense. Now I really can't
wait for to see the UPS truck in my driveway!
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Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm wondering
what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a 66X29" Tennessee
prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to really need either
more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in flight.have to pull
the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in level flight.take-off
performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise indicating 70 mph or a
little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4 flights into it I have a lot
of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so far. I like Fords but guess crank
snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has a better spare prop you want to
sell or swap for something I might have to spare let me know.Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
3350 sounds waaaay high.....
do not archive
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:43 AM, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>wrote:
> skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
>
> Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm
> wondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a
> 66X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to really
> need either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in
> flight.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in
> level flight.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise
> indicating 70 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4
> flights into it I have a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so
> far. I like Fords but guess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has
> a better spare prop you want to sell or swap for something I might have to
> spare let me know.Raymond
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337484#337484
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
That's what I thought. I got the project from D.J. with it on the engine but I'm
afraid I need to get something with more bite soon. I don't know that I'll damage
the engine but it sure reduces the performance I'm thinking.I may check
on the corvair list and see if anyone has a good one to get rid of. I have a new
set of 5" wheels and brakes that I removed from it that would sure be good
trading material as well as a few other goodies. wish there was a swap list on
the site.
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
I think WW says 3100 is about top desired rpm for his corvair
conversion. don't remember recommended prop dimensions without
checking.
Kip Gardner
On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:00 AM, skellytown flyer wrote:
> >
>
> That's what I thought. I got the project from D.J. with it on the
> engine but I'm afraid I need to get something with more bite soon. I
> don't know that I'll damage the engine but it sure reduces the
> performance I'm thinking.I may check on the corvair list and see if
> anyone has a good one to get rid of. I have a new set of 5" wheels
> and brakes that I removed from it that would sure be good trading
> material as well as a few other goodies. wish there was a swap list
> on the site.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337493#337493
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
This might be off topic, but does the fuselage kit from ACS have full length ailerons,
or are they short to accomodate shipping, and need to be spliced together?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
Sorry, i meant, full length longerons, not ailerons. james
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
heavyliftpilot wrote:
> This might be off topic, but does the fuselage kit from ACS have full length
ailerons, or are they short to accomodate shipping, and need to be spliced together?
I am going to assume that you meant to say "longerons", not "ailerons" when discussing
the fuselage package from Aircraft Spruce. The longerons are indeed one
piece, and are longer than required for the standard or long fuselage. Nothing
in the entire wood package requires splicing in order to make a full length
dimension.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
Raymond,
I am using a 63 x 36 Tennessee.
2900 RPM static at near sea level
About 3100 at WOT in the air.
Most of time 2300 RPM cruising at 65 Mph.
I am happy with my prop, never tested another so improvement might be possi
ble.
Climbing performance is a good 800 fpm with one onboard
Hans
NX15KV
Waller, TX
-----Original Message-----
From: skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 9:46 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props
.com>
Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm
ondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a
6X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to really
eed either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in
light.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in l
evel
light.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise indicat
ing
0 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4 flights into i
t I
ave a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so far. I like Fords
but
uess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has a better spare prop y
ou
ant to sell or swap for something I might have to spare let me know.Raymond
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| Subject: | off-topic- need help |
Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private airs
trip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previou
s owner) to "Lowensloe".
on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off-
list. Thanks in advance.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
Thanks Mark, and yes, i meant lonerons! i went back and made the
correction. I live about 4 hours from ACS, and will be up to Atlanta
a few times in the next year...so, i think it would be worth my time
to just pick it up instead of paying for shipping. james
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:41 AM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> heavyliftpilot wrote:
>> This might be off topic, but does the fuselage kit from ACS have full length
ailerons, or are they short to accomodate shipping, and need to be spliced together?
>
>
> I am going to assume that you meant to say "longerons", not "ailerons" when discussing
the fuselage package from Aircraft Spruce. The longerons are indeed
one piece, and are longer than required for the standard or long fuselage. Nothing
in the entire wood package requires splicing in order to make a full length
dimension.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337500#337500
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| Subject: | Re: off-topic- need help |
You need to refile form 5010 with the FAA
http://www.faa.gov/airports/airport_safety/airportdata_5010/
Then just wait for it to appear on the new sectional
Hans
NX15KV
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From: helspersew <helspersew@aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 10:47 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help
Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private airs
trip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previou
s owner) to "Lowensloe".
on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off-
list. Thanks in advance.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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There is an FAA Charting office. I don't have the number, though. I'm not s
ure they're the starting point, but it's worth a shot.
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:44 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private air
strip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previou
s owner) to "Lowensloe".
> on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off
-list. Thanks in advance.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
>
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Dan
When you get it changed will there be a loenslow fly in weekend to properly
celeberate the new official name and rededication
On Apr 19, 2011 11:49 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private
airstrip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the
previous owner) to "Lowensloe".
> on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me
off-list. Thanks in advance.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
We have a 66-30 hegy prop, and static is about 2750-2800.- She will cruis
e along at about 75-80 on 5 gph.- As far as cruise rpm don't know exactly
, the tach is not very accurate, it is a westach, with the tach generator.
- I don't know if it can be adjusted or not, but checking it against a di
gital timing light (with tach) it shows the tach is reading 400 rpm higher
than actual at full throtle, and about correct at idle.-
-
Shad
--- On Tue, 4/19/11, hvandervoo@aol.com <hvandervoo@aol.com> wrote:
From: hvandervoo@aol.com <hvandervoo@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props
Raymond,
-
I am using a 63 x 36 Tennessee.
-
2900 RPM static at near sea level
-
About 3100 at WOT in the air.
-
Most of time 2300 RPM cruising at 65 Mph.
-
I am happy with my prop, never tested another so improvement might be possi
ble.
-
Climbing performance is a good 800 fpm with one onboard
-
Hans
-
NX15KV
Waller, TX
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From: skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 9:46 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props
.com>
Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm
wondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a
66X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to reall
y
need either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in
flight.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in
level
flight.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise indica
ting
70 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4 flights into
it I
have a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so far. I like Fords
but
guess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has a better spare prop
you
want to sell or swap for something I might have to spare let me know.Raymon
d
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Yes John,
As soon as I get my act together I will plan an event at Lowensloe Airfield
(G.Owen Lowensloe, prop.). Thanks to Wayne and Hans for the leads. This in
fo will get me headed in the right direction. Leave it to the guys on this
list for a wealth of knowledge, and fast too!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 11:42 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help
Dan
When you get it changed will there be a loenslow fly in weekend to properly
celeberate the new official name and rededication
On Apr 19, 2011 11:49 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private ai
rstrip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previ
ous owner) to "Lowensloe".
> on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me of
f-list. Thanks in advance.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
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Dan, give me plenty of advanced warning and I might make the journey over
the mountains to visit, and to see my Mom. Of course, you need to get your
own Pietenpol there first.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Yes John,
As soon as I get my act together I will plan an event at Lowensloe Airfield
(G.Owen Lowensloe, prop.). Thanks to Wayne and Hans for the leads. This info
will get me headed in the right direction. Leave it to the guys on this list
for a wealth of knowledge, and fast too!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 11:42 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help
Dan
When you get it changed will there be a loenslow fly in weekend to properly
celeberate the new official name and rededication
On Apr 19, 2011 11:49 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private
airstrip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the
previous owner) to "Lowensloe".
> on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me
off-list. Thanks in advance.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
Thanks guys- I guess mine is just a little more climb pitch. I just got off the
phone with the guy at Tennessee prop and he said most he has sold for corvairs
on Piet types have been 66X30's. I guess unless I find somebody out there in
the cyberworld with a good used one to swap or I find someone willing to give
me at least a little more than half what a new set of Grove 5" wheels and brakes
like I have here that I took off it cost. I'll carefully continue testing
some more and monitor the speed close.I hope to borrow an optical tach at some
point and check this thing but I'm looking at readings from a Grand Rapids EIS
unit set up for the Corvair engine so I suspect it to be pretty accurate. I
would think it counts the pulses digitally and is awful accurate.
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Heavyliftpilot, Don't forget if you pick up your kit they will charge you
taxes.
Dave
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| Subject: | 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ...
..."We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to h
ave it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for
-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer
color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend install
ing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on
light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Red Green misquoted |
I can't believe that after all that I misquoted Red Green. The correct
pledge is: "I'm a man, but I can change... if I have too. I guess."
Stinemetze,
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
Dan ,
Great Logo. now does she know what happens when the Christening is denied?
You may be descended upon by the horeds of Piet, builders, flyers and wanna
bees at a date and time not of your choosing or control, it will just
happen. Then what? Better to be prepared for the inevitable than surprised by
the unplanned.
Its always been a strategy of mine to control all those things in my
control and hope the ones not in my control do not some how raise their heads to
smote me at the least covenant time. I sure hope that doesn't happen at
Loensloe field this year.......
A word to the wise!
In a message dated 4/19/2011 4:53:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
helspersew@aol.com writes:
My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year
......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to
have it all right away......well, maybe its the
Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go
along with the
designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend
installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on
light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following the
sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that "Wimmin's be
thinkin' too much."
Let me know how that works out for you.
do not archive.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
> My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this
year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some
women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the
Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I
did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I
worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical
curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord
anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
> do not archive
> <Logo 2 001.JPG>
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And restrain thy pimp hand....
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:14 PM, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>wrote:
> I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following the
> sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that "Wimmin's be
> thinkin' too much."
>
> Let me know how that works out for you.
>
> do not archive.
>
> -john-
>
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
>
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year
> ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to
> have it all right away......well, maybe its the
> Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did
> go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but
> off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't
> have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is
> no appreciation.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
> do not archive
> <Logo 2 001.JPG>
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc. wrote:
> "Wimmin's be thinkin' too much."
>
> -john-
Oh yeah, that's going to work out real well.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
Dan its good advice. I would follow it if I were you
John
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 21:17:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following the sage
advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that "Wimmin's be thinkin'
too much."
Let me know how that works out for you.
do not archive.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
> My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year
......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to
have it all right away......well, maybe its the
Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did
go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but
off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't
have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is
no appreciation.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
> do not archive
> <Logo 2 001.JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
Dave, I think that Heavyliftpilot lives in the same state as Aircraft Spruce where
he intends to pick up his wood from. He'd be paying taxes on it whether he
ordered it by phone, online, or picking it up in person. He can at least save
the shipping charges if he picks it up personally, plus he can inspect the
wood as he's loading it to make sure that it meets his specifications. I'd pick
mine up too if I were in his position.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
I was just about to mention that you should verify the accuracy of your tachometer,
but it looks like you have already thought of that. Sounds like a good plan,
it's always good to verify information like that so that you don't damage
your engine, or worse...
Have you considered carving your own prop? Several people on this list have done
it, this way you can get the exact prop that you want at substantial savings.
Dan Helsper offers a really well put together CD on prop carving that is well
worth the price if you are interested in trying this out for yourself.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
I have considered it and that might be a good winter project! I need to investigate
it further. I know a fellow not too far from here that talked about doing
it and if he decides to try and builds a duplicator I have a prop he can use
for a pattern with one blade damaged that is about right for him and I'd think
I might be able to clamp my prop down with it rolled just a little to increase
the pitch and make one? lots of options. some a lot more expensive than others.it
would be nice if I could find someone that could rough cut a blank for me
to a good profile and I could spend time sanding and finishing it. but it sounds
like it sure needs to be precise to stay balanced. do not archive
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Hey A Guys..
i know quite a few run a single ignition on the ford.... just wondering if anyone
has a thought on heads..
i was kinda waiting on a dual plug head from snyders.. they are working on the
new casting.. and i'm on the list
but i wonder if i "need" dual ignition
i have a wico model c mag with an adjustable impulse and its hot !
but i thought about a electronic "B" distributor too ... i need an electrical system
anyway
been thinking about a winfield head... or thomas .. kinda want to stick with aluminum
for weight
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
She says to tell all ya'z that she was born in a back alley apartment in ga
ngster Chicago, and she's got connections......
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
Dan its good advice. I would follow it if I were you
John
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 21:17:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following the sag
e advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that "Wimmin's be thinkin'
too much."
Let me know how that works out for you.
do not archive.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ...
..."We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to h
ave it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for
-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer
color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend install
ing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on
light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
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| Subject: | Taxes on material |
Hey Billy,
I found out the hard way. I ordered almost $2,000 worth of wood and
other supplies. I live in Western North Carolina so I went and picked it up
to save shipping. Surprise!!! The taxes on that amount were just short of
the shipping by truck.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
Hi Billy, yes, i live west of savannah. I just retired from the army
(23 years) as a 'heavy lift pilot' (chinook driver). rather do the
'low and slow' flying. James T
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Dave, I think that Heavyliftpilot lives in the same state as Aircraft Spruce
where he intends to pick up his wood from. He'd be paying taxes on it whether
he ordered it by phone, online, or picking it up in person. He can at least save
the shipping charges if he picks it up personally, plus he can inspect the
wood as he's loading it to make sure that it meets his specifications. I'd pick
mine up too if I were in his position.
>
> --------
> Billy McCaskill
> Urbana, IL
> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337545#337545
>
>
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Talk to Pieti Lowell He seems to know more about the "A" than anyone. Lowe
ll?
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: model a heads
> From: jfaith@solairusaviation.com
> Date: Tue=2C 19 Apr 2011 17:33:26 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
om>
>
> Hey A Guys..
> i know quite a few run a single ignition on the ford.... just wondering i
f anyone has a thought on heads..
> i was kinda waiting on a dual plug head from snyders.. they are working o
n the new casting.. and i'm on the list
> but i wonder if i "need" dual ignition
> i have a wico model c mag with an adjustable impulse and its hot !
> but i thought about a electronic "B" distributor too ... i need an electr
ical system anyway
>
> been thinking about a winfield head... or thomas .. kinda want to stick w
ith aluminum for weight
>
> jeff
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337553#337553
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Construction |
Hi Dave, i live west of savannah, and i think i'd rather pick up the
wood and save on the shipping. however, i have not check on how much
the shipping would be. James t
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:10 PM, <SENTUCHOWS@aol.com> wrote:
> Heavyliftpilot, Don't forget if you pick up your kit they will charge you
> taxes.
>
> Dave
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
Skellflyer, Jay Anderson at Cloud Cars will sell you a rough prop. Sorry I
don't know his number. Look in Barnstormers under wood props.
Dave
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| Subject: | One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo |
Oscar, I've seen it advertised in various places for 6 months. I too
wondered about Bills plans. I may call him and discuss. He is a great
engineer, pilot and gentleman. He gave me my first and only Piet ride.
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo
I just noticed in the latest BPA Newsletter that Bill Rewey's Piet,
NX17WR, is for sale. Anybody know the story behind this? Is he
hanging up his goggles or building another Piet?
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
San Antonio, TX
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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covenant time? sorry, s/b convenient time!
john
do not archive, archiving is for sissy's
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
I use a Tennessee 66x30 and max out at 2950 static (but I am at 6700 ft).
rick
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>wrote:
> skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
>
> Thanks guys- I guess mine is just a little more climb pitch. I just got off
> the phone with the guy at Tennessee prop and he said most he has sold for
> corvairs on Piet types have been 66X30's. I guess unless I find somebody out
> there in the cyberworld with a good used one to swap or I find someone
> willing to give me at least a little more than half what a new set of Grove
> 5" wheels and brakes like I have here that I took off it cost. I'll
> carefully continue testing some more and monitor the speed close.I hope to
> borrow an optical tach at some point and check this thing but I'm looking at
> readings from a Grand Rapids EIS unit set up for the Corvair engine so I
> suspect it to be pretty accurate. I would think it counts the pulses
> digitally and is awful accurate.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337525#337525
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
Dan, this has nothing to do with a fly-in at Loensloe AF -- it has to do
with prop carving. I just wonder what kind of machinery a person would
have to have to even consider carving a prop. Thanks, Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this
year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some
women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the
Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I
did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I
worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical
curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord
anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
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Raymond,
This, from my notes at Brodhead '09:
Randy Bush, 64/32
Gary & Shad Bell, 66/30
PF Beck, 64/34
Kurt Shipman, 64/34
Best of luck to you!
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skellytown
flyer
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:43 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props
<skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm
wondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a
66X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to really
need either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in
flight.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in
level flight.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise
indicating 70 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4
flights into it I have a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so
far. I like Fords but guess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has
a better spare prop you want to sell or swap for something I might have to
spare let me know.Raymond
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| Subject: | Taxes on material |
In most states you're gonna pay taxes on it anyway. I'd rather pay a littl
e as I go than get hit with a big tax bill when I register my aircraft.
You can pay me now...or pay me later. The government is like a bookie. The
y always get their money.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
From: SENTUCHOWS@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Taxes on material
Hey Billy=2C
I found out the hard way. I ordered almost $2=2C000 worth of wood and o
ther supplies. I live in Western North Carolina so I went and picked it up
to save shipping. Surprise!!! The taxes on that amount were just short of
the shipping by truck.
Dave
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| Subject: | 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
Dan,
3 words: Chain of Command.
Gary
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year
......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to
have it all right away......well, maybe its the
Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did
go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but
off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't
have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is
no appreciation.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | information from Chet Peek |
Chet Peek asked me to provide this information to the list:
1. I took the Model A and prop information directly from the 1932 MM Flying
Manual which Bernie wrote, and from supporting conversations with family
members. They mentioned that they first used a war surplus prop from a
Lawrance Model A-3 engine, (page 8) but it wouldn't even get the plane off
the ground. Everyone should buy that Flying Manual, EAA has them.
In the 1920's people were afraid of high RPM because the Model T had no
pressure oil feed and the A only had it to the mains. But I drove a Model A
200 miles each way to college for 2 years, (page 18), always at 60-65 MPH
and never burned out a bearing.
I don't know the exact specs on my prop since it came with the engine and
with no other information, but with the twin ignition high compression head
I expect to see 2000 at the top end.
2. About the elevators. Yes, I added an extras rib for two reasons.
First, almost half the inner portion of the elevator surface was
unsupported. Second, the ribs did not line up with the horizontal
stabilizer ribs. It looked bad, so for aesthetic reasons I added the rib
and put them in line with the elevator ribs. I've added a few things here
or there, but certainly not over 15 pounds to the whole structure, and since
I weigh only 125 pounds and I have a 50+ HP Model A, I don't worry.
Stan Peek (Chet's son)
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| Subject: | 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
Chuck,
I'll let Dan answer your question, but here's the hickory prop I carved from
Dan's CD, but modeled after PF Beck's profile. Took 6 mos of study and
working up courage, and 40 hours of carving, filing and sanding.
Gary Boothe
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
Dan, this has nothing to do with a fly-in at Loensloe AF -- it has to do
with prop carving. I just wonder what kind of machinery a person would have
to have to even consider carving a prop. Thanks, Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year
......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to
have it all right away......well, maybe its the
Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did
go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but
off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't
have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is
no appreciation.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
thanks for the tips guys- I found one fellow in Kansas that had a 66x32 Sterba
he loaned to a fellow and never got it back or any money. if he can get it back
I may try it out and buy it if it works well.I am still searching for the Cloudcars
site.so far no luck but if they are all scimitars- if I spelled that right
I don't know how they would do on a Corvair . I expect he makes regular ones
too.I'll sure try to make contact with him.those size ranges tell me I'm on
the too flat side of the range to cruise much but by careful throttle control
I my be able to fly some till I come up with one.Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
Cut back on your chosen vices for a bit to save up a few hundred bucks and
send a check to Jay Anderson (Cloudcars) in Comanche....
Ryan
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:26 PM, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>wrote:
> skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
>
> I have considered it and that might be a good winter project! I need to
> investigate it further. I know a fellow not too far from here that talked
> about doing it and if he decides to try and builds a duplicator I have a
> prop he can use for a pattern with one blade damaged that is about right for
> him and I'd think I might be able to clamp my prop down with it rolled just
> a little to increase the pitch and make one? lots of options. some a lot
> more expensive than others.it would be nice if I could find someone that
> could rough cut a blank for me to a good profile and I could spend time
> sanding and finishing it. but it sounds like it sure needs to be precise to
> stay balanced. do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337550#337550
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
*Jay Anderson
CLOUDCARS
cloudcars(at)verizon.net <cloudcars(at)verizon.net>
325-356-2810*
Ryan
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:34 PM, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> wrote:
skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
thanks for the tips guys- I found one fellow in Kansas that had a 66x32
Sterba he loaned to a fellow and never got it back or any money. if he can
get it back I may try it out and buy it if it works well.I am still
searching for the Cloudcars site.so far no luck but if they are all
scimitars- if I spelled that right I don't know how they would do on a
Corvair . I expect he makes regular ones too.I'll sure try to make contact
with him.those size ranges tell me I'm on the too flat side of the range to
cruise much but by careful throttle control I my be able to fly some till I
come up with one.Raymond
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337575#337575
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| Subject: | Re: model a heads |
Jeff:
I'm afraid I know too much about the WICO model C (from tractor
experience) to be eager to fly behind one. The Wico X is a better design,
and parts are much easier to source and reasonably priced as this mag is
still manufactured for industrial/agricultural applications. If you want
to use an industrial/agricultural mag, the American Bosch base mounted
mags are generally regarded as being well designed and reliable, but they
are heavier than most other choices. Standard Magneto Sales in Chicago
may still have some of these as New-Old-Stock. They should also be able
to supply the coupling parts necessary to fine tune the timing on a base
mounted mag setup. The side mounted mag drives sold by Ken Perkins are a
clean and sanitary way to install a mag on a Ford, and I might be tempted
to use one of them with a Slick mag, just be sure to verify that you have
proper gear mesh. Distributors will require more complexity and perhaps
weight, as they will require a full electrical system...
Brett Phillips
Strasburg, VA
NX311GP
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:33:26 -0400, bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
wrote:
> <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
>
> Hey A Guys..
> i know quite a few run a single ignition on the ford.... just wondering
> if anyone has a thought on heads..
> i was kinda waiting on a dual plug head from snyders.. they are working
> on the new casting.. and i'm on the list
> but i wonder if i "need" dual ignition
> i have a wico model c mag with an adjustable impulse and its hot !
> but i thought about a electronic "B" distributor too ... i need an
> electrical system anyway
>
> been thinking about a winfield head... or thomas .. kinda want to stick
> with aluminum for weight
>
> jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337553#337553
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
I was just over in the U.K. and met some of the members of the U.K. Pietenpol Club.
They have a member, I think that his name is Alan James, that carves props
for people. I have attached an excel spreadsheet that is on their website for
determining optimum prop diameter/pitch. I will simply say this - use at your
own risk, but I hope that it helps.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
While we are on the subject of Corvair propellers and propeller carving. On
my website is a good booklet written in 1984 called "How I Make Wood
Propellers" by Al Schubert ( http://westcoastpiet.com/construction.htm ).
In Part 1 on pages 67B to 68 and pages 68F to 68G, Mr. Schubert discusses a
propeller he made for Mr. Pietenpol's Corvair powered Air Camper.
It sure wish I could have know Mr. Schubert and Mr. Pietenpol. I would love
to of had the pleasure of meeting them and learning from them. There my kind
of people.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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